Angry crowd swarms for scheduled flag burning [Video]

[Zatch]

IF YOU DON'T LIKE 'MERICAH THEN YOU CAN GIT OUT!! USA! USA! USA! THEY TERK ERR JERBS!!

Top comment:


burning the flag isn't speech...it's treason

:rolleyes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUb_qvHX_wc

News Article: http://www.lsureveille.com/angry-crowd-swarms-for-scheduled-flag-burning-1.2562076

edit:

Classic Penn & Teller on Flag Burning:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF2iX2VG6e4

[Vessol]

It baffles me why so many people are attached to a piece of fucking cloth.

I really don't get nationalism.

[BamaAla]

It baffles me why so many people are attached to a piece of fucking cloth.

I really don't get nationalism.

Maybe a few there were hardcore nationalist, but I'd wager the bulk of them were just caught up in the mob mentality. Reading the story and watching the video, though, it looks like everything was peaceful if rather contentious.

[Acala]

It baffles me why so many people are attached to a piece of fucking cloth.

I really don't get nationalism.

Human beings weave a sense of identity out of a bunch of threads including their opinions, their jobs, their family name and reputation, their ethnic background, their religion, their political party, their favorite sports team, and so on. For many people, the nation and its symbols become part of their personal identity, their sense of self. In a very real sense, attacking their country or its symbols is experienced by them as an attack on them personally, even a kind of death threat. Hence, the emotionally-driven response.

[HOLLYWOOD]

It baffles me why so many people are attached to a piece of fucking cloth.

I really don't get nationalism.As Symbols... Government uses Symbols for on the Simple Minded.

[Cowlesy]

Where are the Syrian Riot Police when you need them for that flag-burner!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/11/article-0-0BFF25B100000578-58_634x526.jpg

When it boils down to protecting unpopular liberty, the people right in that douchebag's face are about the same as that Syrian soldier in my opinion.

[Cowlesy]

Human beings weave a sense of identity out of a bunch of threads including their opinions, their jobs, their family name and reputation, their ethnic background, their religion, their political party, their favorite sports team, and so on. For many people, the nation and its symbols become part of their personal identity, their sense of self. In a very real sense, attacking their country or its symbols is experienced by them as an attack on them personally, even a kind of death threat. Hence, the emotionally-driven response.

Very good post. If I were proud of my nation, I would defend it. I've been embarassed by its leaders of late. Wish we could go back to being the Shining City Upon The Hill and setting a good example of our own.

We are very, very far away from that now.

[pcosmar]

Proper way to dispose of flags= Burning.

look it up.

Stupid Faux Patriotism is stupid.

[Vessol]

Very good post. If I were proud of my nation, I would defend it. I've been embarassed by its leaders of late. Wish we could go back to being the Shining City Upon The Hill and setting a good example of our own.

We are very, very far away from that now.

I can't really think of any time in American history when I would be "proud" enough to defend it.

Even at our Founding there was little to be proud of. Shay's Rebellion anyone? Whiskey Rebellion?

[Seraphim]

5:15...

CRUCIFY HIM!

Someone actually shouted that. Unreal. Total swine.

[aGameOfThrones]

In other news: man wears underwear with American flag design, screams "I just farted" and he's chase by angry mob.

[Humanae Libertas]

There is nothing more American than chanting "U-S-A" while waving an American flag made in China.

But don't tell them that...they don't know or care.

[Wren]

Oh man, the people we have to put up with to get Ron Paul elected :(

[Wolverine302]

Anyone who burns the Stars and Stripes, is no friend of mine.

[fade]

Proper way to dispose of flags= Burning.

look it up.

Stupid Faux Patriotism is stupid.

I bet you hardly anyone knows this.If it touches the ground, burn it.

Turns out I learned wrong back in boy scouts.

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/flagday/burnflag.asp

[pcosmar]

Anyone who burns the Stars and Stripes, is no friend of mine.

Does that include the Boy Scouts and VFW. They do flag disposal (burning) all the time.

[Vessol]

i bet you hardly anyone knows this. If it touches the ground, burn it.

anti american scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QueenB4Liberty]

And he never got around to the actual burning of the flag because he didn't have a permit.

lol I'm not a fan of nationalism.

[Seraphim]

If it's there own property they have every right to do so and you are irrational.


Anyone who burns the Stars and Stripes, is no friend of mine.

[pcosmar]

Meh
Don't burn it,
Fly it upside down.

It is not disrespectful, but makes the point that the US is in distress.

[Southron]

If it's there own property they have every right to do so and you are irrational.

I guess the same applies to the Quran also?

[awake]

"Even if we loose, we shall win, for our ideals will have penetrated the hearts of our enemies." - Goebbels

We have become torturers and terrorists, all in the name of fighting it.

[Vessol]

I guess the same applies to the Quran also?

Of course.

And the Bible, and the Torah, and the Bhagavad Gita, and the Book of Mormon, and the Harry Potter books.

[Wolverine302]

Does that include the Boy Scouts and VFW. They do flag disposal (burning) all the time.
You burn flags when they are no longer suitable for display, not for politcal purposes.

If it's there own property they have every right to do so and you are irrational.
This was on public grounds in an attempt to make a public service announcement, using the US Flag as a hostage. I am not irrational.

[VIDEODROME]

I think in the West and in America people have gone through some strange phases. For a while it seemed like Individualist Thinking was promoted through pursuit of knowledge in literature, arts, sciences, or politics. People were perhaps more likely to be introspective when thinking about the world, their place in it, and what achievements they might pursue.

But because Electronic Media has brought people so close together I think many have actually returned to a very Tribal nature.

[Nate-ForLiberty]

IF YOU DON'T LIKE 'MERICAH THEN YOU CAN GIT OUT!! USA! USA! USA! THEY TERK ERR JERBS!!

Top comment:



:rolleyes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUb_qvHX_wc

http://www.lsureveille.com/angry-crowd-swarms-for-scheduled-flag-burning-1.2562076

Here's the good news. These are the people that do what the government tells them to do. Which means when the time comes, they'll be disarmed.
:(

[Vessol]

This was on public grounds in an attempt to make a public service announcement, using the US Flag as a hostage. I am not irrational.

So I can only use my property in government approved ways?

[Wolverine302]

Do what the hell you want in your house with the flag, but make sure your ass stays inside.

[Vessol]

Do what the hell you want in your house with the flag, but make sure your ass stays inside.

Or what?

[Wolverine302]

Or you'll get a snowball or water balloon tossed your way.

[pcosmar]

Do what the hell you want in your house with the flag, but make sure your ass stays inside.

It is a stupid piece of colored cloth. (usually made in China these days)
Not some holy relic.
:(

[Zatch]

Penn and Teller on flag burning:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF2iX2VG6e4

[Vessol]

Or you'll get a snowball or water balloon tossed your way.

Best hope that it's not Sean Hannity you're throwing that snowball at. You might haunt his dreams for years to come.

[nolvorite]

supporting their right to desecrate the flag makes you patriotic. ;)

[ClayTrainor]

Penn and Teller on flag burning:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF2iX2VG6e4

Dam, you beat me to it. :p

Here's one of them doing it on a inside the white house, on the the TV Show "West Wing"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NymRecFWgAs

[aGameOfThrones]

Or you'll get a snowball or water balloon tossed your way.

So one should get assaulted for burning a flag?

[Wolverine302]

Does one have to use the flag opposite of the ones who died protecting it?

[PaulConventionWV]

It baffles me why so many people are attached to a piece of fucking cloth.

I really don't get nationalism.

You and I both, brother.

[pcosmar]

Does one have to use the flag opposite of the ones who died protecting it?

Why would you be protecting a flag? And why would you die doing it?

I am a VietNam Era Vet. Please explain this stupidity to me.

[silentshout]

Frightening.

[kahless]

I have come to see the flag for what it really is: a symbol of my master who claims ownership over my life, my family and my wages.

It saddens me that my country has come to this. Fly it upside down.

[Danke]

Of course.

And the Bible, and the Torah, and the Bhagavad Gita, and the Book of Mormon, and the Harry Potter books.

Harry Potter books!?! Vessol you are taking this too far!

[nobody's_hero]

Human beings weave a sense of identity out of a bunch of threads including their opinions, their jobs, their family name and reputation, their ethnic background, their religion, their political party, their favorite sports team, and so on. For many people, the nation and its symbols become part of their personal identity, their sense of self. In a very real sense, attacking their country or its symbols is experienced by them as an attack on them personally, even a kind of death threat. Hence, the emotionally-driven response.

Pretty good summary. I think that goes for politicians as well. Ever make fun of a representative that someone else voted for, and then they get all hissy like you just kicked their dog?

[Xenophage]

As long as nobody got violent, each side was expressing itself within their rights. I don't have any desire to burn a flag, except to prove that I can - and as long as I know I can, the issue is irrelevant.

Flag burning, much like attending a Lady GaGa or Justin Bieber concert, can be demonized and deplored - so long as nobody raises the specter of outlawing it.

[libertybrewcity]

I don't see anything wrong with liking your country. There is nothing wrong with a sense of identity. How about you Christians? I bet you would protest the burning of a bible. Hell, if people started burning RP books I would protest too? I love this country, too, even though I don't agree with hardly anything. I do know that if the United States was ever attacked, we would band together and fight back. No?

[Zatch]

How about you Christians? I bet you would protest the burning of a bible.

Nope.

[devil21]

If these people took a moment to realize that THEY are the country, not a piece of fabric made in China, then maybe this country isn't so great after all.

"Take his flag!" "Get him!" etc etc

Yeah great place.

[CharlesTX]

Hmmm...burning the American flag in the middle of Times Square at the same time having a giant cartoon picture of the prophet Mohammed....:p

[doodle]

Good freeedom news, flag burning "suspect" is under custody:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBx2YpTZ5TI

[ClayTrainor]

Good freeedom news, flag burning "suspect" is under custody:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBx2YpTZ5TI

According to the cop the LSU flag was missing and the rope to hold up the US Flag was "severely damaged". Does this mean that the flag burner did not own the flag he burned?

[Ray]

http://nation.foxnews.com/american-flag/2011/05/11/lsu-students-chase-flag-burner-campus


Eslava holds dual citizenship for the United States and Colombia. During the early morning hours of May 2, the LSU War Memorial was damaged. The flag mast rope was cut down, the United States flag set afire and the LSU flag stolen. An LSU staff member alerted LSU Police, who responded to the area. LSU Police located the suspect nearby, but was unable to detain him.

During this initial response, police recovered a stolen vehicle, which was used by the suspect. The LSU flag was recovered from inside of the vehicle along with drug paraphernalia, a clothing item belonging to the suspect, and red and black spray paint.

Burning a flag is a protected right, but theft and damaging the property of others is not.

[Ray]

Correction, these are 2 different cases. The person who was in OP's video that got chased off campus was planning on burning the flag to protest the case that doodle's video is about. For details on those, see above post ^

[Glennsib]

I think the revolution has started in USA.

[JK/SEA]

I think the revolution has started in USA.

It started officially 12/16/07..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDqneN4weE

[Glennsib]

It started officially 12/16/07..
David Cameron, The British prime minister said” We should teach the Egyptian revolution in our schools”

Barak Obama, The American president said after the Egyptian revolution “We should raise our Children to be like the Egyptian Youth”

Heinz Fischer, President of Austria said “The Egyptian people are the greatest in the world and deserves the Nobel prize for peace”

Silvio Berlusconi, The prime minister of Italy said” Nothing new about Egypt, The Egyptian just created the history as usual”

Jens Stoltenberg, Norway Prime Minister said “Today, We all are Egyptians”

http://egyptcairoholidays.com/2011/02/16/egypt-latest-news-by-memphis-toursegypt-in-the-worlds-eyes/

When world leaders do not know what they are speaking and what will be the end results then "it is over".

[AFPVet]

Human beings weave a sense of identity out of a bunch of threads including their opinions, their jobs, their family name and reputation, their ethnic background, their religion, their political party, their favorite sports team, and so on. For many people, the nation and its symbols become part of their personal identity, their sense of self. In a very real sense, attacking their country or its symbols is experienced by them as an attack on them personally, even a kind of death threat. Hence, the emotionally-driven response.


Precisely... the connection of symbols mark the unification of the people in this Republic. I can only imagine what our founders would think about our times... indeed... they envisioned this... which is why they wrote the Constitution the way that they did.

[Vessol]

Harry Potter books!?! Vessol you are taking this too far!

I know I know, but I am only trying to equally represent all the mainstream religions.

[t0rnado]

Cowards and insecure people tend to align themselves with metaphorically large symbols like multicolored pieces of cloth. It makes them feel larger and more powerful, so ofcourse they'll get riled up when the symbol is attacked.

Flag burners should carry guns with them and use them for self defense if anyone impedes upon their right to do as they wish with their property.

[Verrater]

Family heirlooms represent something to a lot of you.
I'm sure, if you brother or sister wished to burn every family photo that had been left to them, you would protest.

The flag represents ideals to me.
Burning it, to be intentionally disrespectful of those ideals, bothers me.

I still think people have the right to do it, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

[AlexanderY]

Family heirlooms represent something to a lot of you.
I'm sure, if you brother or sister wished to burn every family photo that had been left to them, you would protest.

The flag represents ideals to me.
Burning it, to be intentionally disrespectful of those ideals, bothers me.

I still think people have the right to do it, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

To be intentionally disrespectful of those ideals or being intentionally disrespectful to the government that disregards them?

The flag represents ideals to me too, but that's mainly based on an intrinsic emotion.

Once I stop and think, and get away from the emotional patriotic trance, I realize that the government that is supposed to uphold the ideals flagrantly acts against them.

[ClayTrainor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzFd8nU4TI8

[Elwar]

Guy on the Hannity show said that the guy has as much of a right to burn the flag as the angry crowd has to chase him off the campus.

:rolleyes:

[Verrater]

To be intentionally disrespectful of those ideals or being intentionally disrespectful to the government that disregards them?

The flag represents ideals to me too, but that's mainly based on an intrinsic emotion.

Once I stop and think, and get away from the emotional patriotic trance, I realize that the government that is supposed to uphold the ideals flagrantly acts against them.

I think you missed my point.

[Wolverine302]

Why would you be protecting a flag? And why would you die doing it?

I am a VietNam Era Vet. Please explain this stupidity to me.

Because the flag represents the last stand of freedom in this world. Burning it maliciously is to burn the idea that men and women died protecting these freedoms. Why the hell would you burn a flag in a political arena? You want to see america burned down? because thats what that represents.

[Vessol]

Because the flag represents the last stand of freedom in this world. Burning it maliciously is to burn the idea that men and women died protecting these freedoms. Why the hell would you burn a flag in a political arena? You want to see america burned down? because thats what that represents.

LOL.

I remember when I still believed the State worship they taught me in public indoctrination, erm I mean school.

Please provide me an example how.

A) America is the "last stand of freedom" in the world.
B) Who died protecting my freedoms? What freedoms did they protect? Who were they defending my freedoms from?
C) How does a geographic region=a piece of cloth?

[aGameOfThrones]

Because the flag represents the last stand of freedom in this world. Burning it maliciously is to burn the idea that men and women died protecting these freedoms. Why the hell would you burn a flag in a political arena? You want to see america burned down? because thats what that represents.


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[jmdrake]

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[Anti Federalist]

There is nothing more American than chanting "U-S-A" while waving an American flag made in China.

But don't tell them that...they don't know or care.

'MERICA!!

And iff'n yew doan like it boy, yew can gerrout.

[TruckinMike]

Concerning nationalist furvor:

All you have to do is show them this

http://homeschoolblogger.com/principia/files/2010/07/american-school-children-bellamy-salute.jpg

and

explain why a socialist (Francis Bellamy) penned the pledge --- "to the flag", instead of the Constitution (and without "under God).

--- I explain this to truckers all the time at our dinner discussion round tables (at the truck stop restaurant trucker bar). And yes, sometimes I do fear for my life, but after a little explaining they seem to get it. Once an 'Mericah lover understands the concept of "Nationalization" (or centralization of power) vs. state autonomy , they usually get it. You just have to put it in the right context.

TMike

[acerbity]

http://www.lsureveille.com/transcript-of-benjamin..... (http://www.lsureveille.com/transcript-of-benjamin-haas-speech-1.2562035)


...I feel what is missing most from the United States is a sense of community, love, and acceptance of the differences we may have about issues in the world. If I had one wish for today, it would be to make the world a more peaceful place.

Peace.

Hmm...

[Elwar]

Because the flag represents the last stand of freedom in this world. Burning it maliciously is to burn the idea that men and women died protecting these freedoms. Why the hell would you burn a flag in a political arena? You want to see america burned down? because thats what that represents.

Kinda like people feel that the US was founded on Christianity and yet they worship a false idol in the US flag?

[ClayTrainor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_664t4rIGYM&NR=1

:D

[BlackTerrel]

I guess the same applies to the Quran also?

It is interesting how much angrier the sentiment was on RPF to the guy burning the Quran than the guy burning the flag.

[BlackTerrel]

I don't see anything wrong with liking your country. There is nothing wrong with a sense of identity. How about you Christians? I bet you would protest the burning of a bible. Hell, if people started burning RP books I would protest too? I love this country, too, even though I don't agree with hardly anything. I do know that if the United States was ever attacked, we would band together and fight back. No?

If somebody burned a bible I wouldn't care. I also wouldn't care if someone burned a flag. I'd think the guy doing it was a douchebag. But I wouldn't waste my time going to protest.

[demolama]

Because the flag represents the last stand of freedom in this world. Burning it maliciously is to burn the idea that men and women died protecting these freedoms. Why the hell would you burn a flag in a political arena? You want to see america burned down? because thats what that represents.

American Indian: Oh look a bunch of men in blue clothing carrying an American flag are coming to set us free!
Vietnamese: Oh look a bunch of men in green carrying an American flag are coming to set us free!
Iraqi: Oh look a bunch of men in camo carrying an American flag are coming to set us free!


yeah... not buying it

[JCLibertarian]

...

[Anti Federalist]

It is interesting how much angrier the sentiment was on RPF to the guy burning the Quran than the guy burning the flag.

I don't find that surprising.

The vast majority of folks here are hard at work on a "revolution" of sorts. Some of us take that term more literally than others.

But in any case, that assumes the current state of affairs WRT government has become untenable at best, tyrannical at worst.

Therefore a symbol of that government, regardless of what it may have, or is supposed to, stand for, is probably not going to be furiously "defended".

[JCLibertarian]

Because the flag represents the last stand of freedom in this world. Burning it maliciously is to burn the idea that men and women died protecting these freedoms. Why the hell would you burn a flag in a political arena? You want to see america burned down? because thats what that represents.

What freedoms? What Wars that America has waged has resulted in the enhancement or protection of individual freedoms? That ought to be an easy answer for you, since you are so insistent on promoting the notion that and standing army paid for by extortion protects freedom.

I would prefer to see the American government dismantled, yes, but I want all states abolished. I am as much "anti-american" as I am anti-state.

[pcosmar]

I am not Anti-American (as I have been accused) nor am I an anarchist (as I have also been accused)

I think we just have a very different idea of what "being an American" is.

Read my sig line. Written by a true American.

[Philhelm]

I don't find that surprising.

The vast majority of folks here are hard at work on a "revolution" of sorts. Some of us take that term more literally than others.

But in any case, that assumes the current state of affairs WRT government has become untenable at best, tyrannical at worst.

Therefore a symbol of that government, regardless of what it may have, or is supposed to, stand for, is probably not going to be furiously "defended".

I'm not one to worship a piece of cloth, but I don't have a problem with the flag because I view it as being ours, not theirs. I want my fucking flag back that our government has dirtied.

[Carehn]

Why are they so upset anyway. Hes just going to burn some cloth from china. Its not like the "republic" that the flag is suppose to represent is worth a shit anyway.

[schiffheadbaby]

Why are they so upset anyway. Hes just going to burn some cloth from china. Its not like the "republic" that the flag is suppose to represent is worth a shit anyway.

because the guy is a liberal hippy grad student who is trying to derive attention, not by being productive, but by being intentionally incendiary? I would have chased him off campus too

[Carehn]

because the guy is a liberal hippy grad student who is trying to derive attention, not by being productive, but by being intentionally incendiary? I would have chased him off campus too

Why not start selling him flags instead?

[Anti Federalist]

I'm not one to worship a piece of cloth, but I don't have a problem with the flag because I view it as being ours, not theirs. I want my fucking flag back that our government has dirtied.

Agreed, but more importantly, I want my rights back

[BlackTerrel]

I don't find that surprising.

The vast majority of folks here are hard at work on a "revolution" of sorts. Some of us take that term more literally than others.

But in any case, that assumes the current state of affairs WRT government has become untenable at best, tyrannical at worst.

Therefore a symbol of that government, regardless of what it may have, or is supposed to, stand for, is probably not going to be furiously "defended".

I don't find it surprising either. I do find it interesting though.

It is this guys right to burn a flag just like it was Terry Jones right to burn a Quran. But a lot more people here were upset about the latter.

[BlackTerrel]

Why not start selling him flags instead?

There's a capitalist :)

[aGameOfThrones]

because the guy is a liberal hippy grad student who is trying to derive attention, not by being productive, but by being intentionally incendiary? I would have chased him off campus too

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[schiffheadbaby]

I don't find it surprising either. I do find it interesting though.

It is this guys right to burn a flag just like it was Terry Jones right to burn a Quran. But a lot more people here were upset about the latter.

Yes blackterrel you are on the ball. A lot of people think it's "cooler" to support muslims than it is to support our flag on this forum. What a joke.

[aGameOfThrones]

Let's bring back the civil flag, and stop using the war flag.

[Anti Federalist]

I don't find it surprising either. I do find it interesting though.

It is this guys right to burn a flag just like it was Terry Jones right to burn a Quran. But a lot more people here were upset about the latter.

I suppose I wasn't, upset one way or the other, because I barely recall the incident.

I found both to be provocative while having no real substance.

I could drop my trousers and take a shit in the middle of a public street and cause as much ruckus.

[Anti Federalist]

Yes blackterrel you are on the ball. A lot of people think it's "cooler" to support muslims than it is to support our flag on this forum. What a joke.

LoL - Just wanted to use that cool facepalm thingy.

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I already addressed this point:

Why should I consider it "my" flag, when the government it represents is diametrically opposed to just about every single thing I hold to be true?

[BlackTerrel]

I suppose I wasn't, upset one way or the other, because I barely recall the incident.

I found both to be provocative while having no real substance.

I could drop my trousers and take a shit in the middle of a public street and cause as much ruckus.

youtube or it didn't happen

and yes I agree. I found both to be equally dumb. And the people protesting just as pathetic.

[pcosmar]

LoL - Just wanted to use that cool facepalm thingy.

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I can see that becoming quite popular and well used in the near future.

[schiffheadbaby]

LoL - Just wanted to use that cool facepalm thingy.

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I already addressed this point:

Why should I consider it "my" flag, when the government it represents is diametrically opposed to just about every single thing I hold to be true?

The flag still represents something. I dislike the gov more than anybody but you can still support the flag and oppose loser hippy grad schools who will never create value like a great American stud.

[aGameOfThrones]

The flag still represents something. I dislike the gov more than anybody but you can still support the flag and oppose loser hippy grad schools who will never create value like a great American stud.

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[Anti Federalist]

The flag still represents something. I dislike the gov more than anybody but you can still support the flag and oppose loser hippy grad schools who will never create value like a great American stud.

Yes, it represents many things: insolvency, debt, invasion, hit squads, war, world wide surveillance, among other things.

[schiffheadbaby]

Yes, it represents many things: insolvency, debt, invasion, hit squads, war, world wide surveillance, among other things.

you guys are so negative. those things are what the globalists have given us, but they aren't american.

but fine if you want to act like a communist hippy then have it at. GOOD LUCK WINNING MANY VOTES BROS

[aGameOfThrones]

you guys are so negative. those things are what the globalists have given us, but they aren't american.

but fine if you want to act like a communist hippy then have it at. GOOD LUCK WINNING MANY VOTES BROS

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Why are you making me use this so much?

[pcosmar]

The flag still represents something. I dislike the gov more than anybody but you can still support the flag and oppose loser hippy grad schools who will never create value like a great American stud.

:confused:
Huh ?
Who the hell are you talking to,,or about?


The whole debate left me in less than the best of moods. I had to step away for a bit and let it coagulate
From the staged theatrics to the political correctness,,,and absurdity. Daaaah!
Grey time of year and lots of winter clean up to do.
I Rolled some ******s.
I cleared my head, and I will hope that people aren't really that stupid.

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And cleaning all this I am seeing green shoots.
The grassroots are growing.

And I'm gettin' tired of the Hippie ******s comments too.
:rolleyes:
GD,PC,BS

[Anti Federalist]

you guys are so negative. those things are what the globalists have given us, but they aren't american.

but fine if you want to act like a communist hippy then have it at. GOOD LUCK WINNING MANY VOTES BROS

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Why are you making me use this so much?

[Philhelm]

Is that facepalm thing based on Picard from Star Trek?

[jkr]

wOw

those "people" are scary...i need government to prote-oh wait.


so what was he saying. started off good enough. due process and shit like that...

[aGameOfThrones]

Is that facepalm thing based on Picard from Star Trek?

Yeah.

[BlackTerrel]

Guy picked the wrong school to be honest. If he had been at UC Berkeley someone would have passed him a lighter.

[schiffheadbaby]

BTW, guy who wanted to burn the flag probably has more illegiance to Israel than America. It is not surprising he is so vindictive.

I feel bad he was unable to obtain a job at GS or Rothschilds but I really wish we had more producers and fewer consumers of gov services like this clown

[aGameOfThrones]

BTW, guy who wanted to burn the flag probably has more illegiance to Israel than America. It is not surprising he is so vindictive.

I feel bad he was unable to obtain a job at GS or Rothschilds but I really wish we had more producers and fewer consumers of gov services like this clown

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[pcosmar]

BTW, guy who wanted to burn the flag probably has more illegiance to Israel than America. It is not surprising he is so vindictive.

I feel bad he was unable to obtain a job at GS or Rothschilds but I really wish we had more producers and fewer consumers of gov services like this clown


yes I will vote for Obama .

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yes, there's a pic for that

[aGameOfThrones]

I just notice I got 3 messages from this troll LOL.

1,
Are you really giving me a facepalm?

LOSER

2,
what's your problem? Are you not creating a lot of value?

you probably get student loans and think you are so trendy


3,
compare my net worth to yours

keep on posting thousands of times on these forums


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[BlackTerrel]

BTW, guy who wanted to burn the flag probably has more illegiance to Israel than America. It is not surprising he is so vindictive.

Based on what would you say this?