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Bratok
05-06-2011, 10:28 PM
Free Market Fascism and National Elitism are realistic alternatives to Austrolibertarianism

What is Free Market Fascism?

The American cold war victory has shown that capitalism controlled by a democratic state is stronger than a socialist planned economy. However, after the collapse of the USSR, instead of using capitalism's power to push humanity forward, the Americans began to waste the planet's limited resources on their own needs. The American working class is a parasite for this planet. I propose to create a new system liberated from the tyranny of the working class within which the exploitation of capitalists will create rapid economic growth and technological progress. This system is free market fascism.

Free market fascism is the only sustainable free market system. Free markets are inherently unstable. That's not a bad thing, but economic cycles produce unemployment which can lead to revolution, or destruction of capital by the government to create demand for excess human supply (e.g. The Great Depression). If being poor and unemployed was a crime then revolutions/destruction of capital wouldn't happen. The first country to adopt free market fascism will experience huge economic growth because the bourgeoisie will be able to accumulate capital exponentially, and replace obsolete human workers with machines without any government intervention to protect the proletariat. In the end, such an economy will attain 90-95% of the world GDP. Everyone else will become mere natural resource exporters because keynesian/socialist/marxist economies won't be able to compete with free market fascism.

Free market fascism comprises 3 social classes:
The 1st (ruling) class consists of people who guard and regulate the system, and protect the capitalists from jealous proletarians (the artificially created middle class in the USA). If there are elections within this system, then only members of this class can vote. Though consulting the capitalist class is still possible. 1 to 10 million people are needed for this class. Tax revenue (approximately 10% of the GDP) from exploitation of capitalists is distributed more or less equally among members of the ruling class. They are the shareholders.
2nd class: capitalists, entrepreneurs, investors, speculators, lenders, rentiers, etc. Up to 1 million people.
3rd class: proletarians, including highly skilled workers, scientists and intellectuals. They are needed in the beginning, but most of them will eventually be replaced with machines and AI. Up to 100 million people.

Japan and Germany have huge economies, yet relatively small territories (less than 400,000 km2). In free market fascism a large population won't be needed either. A territory of similar size can be created (sea platform/artificial island), or the population of a country that nobody cares about can be displaced (Somalia, Colombia, Uganda, etc.)

What is National Elitism?

National Elitism is alternative to Free Market Fascism that can be used by most existing countries. In such system ruling class comprises 2 subclasses. Upper subclass guards and regulates system. Lower subclass doesn't have to work, however it should learn to tolerate income inequality with upper subclass not only with capitalist class.Also since lower subclass is defacto parasite(similar to middle class in USA) its overall spending and standards of living should grow at lower rate than income and wealth of capitalist class(richest 1% in USA)

What is Fascism?

Fascism simply means rule of group of people(several millions) i.e. "Strength through unity". It is in between Monarchy(one man rules) and Democracy("We the people" rule). It is that simple and all other definitions of fascism are irrelevant.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipdR_90Bt4s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqPEn7GPmLQ

PS Support Paul Ryan and Koch brothers, they understand how REAL world works ;)

Mini-Me
05-06-2011, 10:36 PM
...is this a joke?
Hrm. I see from your posting history that you're either serious or trolling.

Your dystopian vision is so disjointed as to be almost completely incomprehensible. Regardless, your authoritarian central planning is not welcome here. Congratulations on receiving my first and only negative rep...in 24 hours at least, once I can give out rep again. Get the fuck out, and have a nice day!

Bratok
05-06-2011, 11:10 PM
I'm serious. To keep America strong you should support your national elite.

Regardless, your authoritarian central planning is not welcome here.
Capitalists can do whatever they want.
Workers can do whatever they want as long as there is demand for them in system

heavenlyboy34
05-06-2011, 11:15 PM
lolz @ fascist fail. Conveniently ignorant of the fact that all the assertions about "free markets" are long-disproven fallacies. :D For a minute there, I thought this was a parody of Kludge's "anarcho-fascism" shtick.

Bratok
05-06-2011, 11:25 PM
How can I contact this anarcho-fascist? Does he have Skype or ICQ?

Bratok
05-07-2011, 10:20 AM
He is anti-state, in free market fascism state is necessary for ruling class to control system.

nate895
05-07-2011, 10:26 AM
I'm Russian, so I can say this: Only a Russian could come up with something so sick and twisted as this system. I suggest you find some warmer weather to relax in.

OrigSEOH
05-07-2011, 10:36 AM
I don't like pyramids. I like trees.

awake
05-07-2011, 10:46 AM
Here is a great example of corporatism... Fascism actually.

"Cap and trade legislation will introduce a whole new product of CO2 permits that will be created and traded by the big financial interests bailed out after the crash, such as Goldman Sachs. Control over industrial production will be achieved, which is the socialist goal, and the corporations and certain Wall Street financial firms will be big players and beneficiaries in the process. - Ron Paul, Liberty Defined.

A fake anti-market as a gift to certain special quasi governmental "corporations". Too big to fail actually means 'state run' masquerading as a free market operation.

Stealing liberty for power.

StilesBC
05-07-2011, 11:04 AM
I've never used the negative rep feature before. Just popped my cherry.

Bratok
05-07-2011, 12:14 PM
I'm Russian, so I can say this: Only a Russian could come up with something so sick and twisted as this system. I suggest you find some warmer weather to relax in.
Self-hater, eh? :) Russian people will be fine, Putin understands how system works, but we must wait a little. We will be exploiting capitalists too.
Since you know russian language I suggest you to read these forums
http://www.arif.ee/invision/index.php?showtopic=15581
http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=54:55557

Vote for Paul Ryan and support Koch brothers, they are last true heroes of America.

Удачи! ;)

Bratok
05-07-2011, 12:20 PM
Too big to fail actually means 'state run' masquerading as a free market operation.
There are no too big to fail corporations in free market fascism. Any corporation/individual can fail, any corporation/individiual can become as rich as they want. There is no problem of income inequality, jealous proletarians can't redistribute wealth because it is fascism not democracy.

Mini-Me
05-07-2011, 03:47 PM
There are no too big to fail corporations in free market fascism. Any corporation/individual can fail, any corporation/individiual can become as rich as they want. There is no problem of income inequality, jealous proletarians can't redistribute wealth because it is fascism not democracy.

When you allow the government enough power to use force arbitrarily, it will inevitably use arbitrary force against you too. This is the most important and most obvious lesson history has shown, and you have totally failed to grasp it. This forum can't let me give you negative rep fast enough.

heavenlyboy34
05-07-2011, 03:50 PM
Self-hater, eh? :) Russian people will be fine, Putin understands how system works, but we must wait a little. We will be exploiting capitalists too.
Since you know russian language I suggest you to read these forums
http://www.arif.ee/invision/index.php?showtopic=15581
http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=54:55557

Vote for Paul Ryan and support Koch brothers, they are last true heroes of America.

Удачи! ;)

НЕПРАВДА! ЕРУНДА!:p ;)

eta: those forums are amusing. :D (I read Russian too ;) )

Bratok
05-07-2011, 10:46 PM
When you allow the government enough power to use force arbitrarily, it will inevitably use arbitrary force against you too.
In free market fascism you have as much freedom as people in western countries, but you are prohibited to be poor and unemployed and redistribution of wealth is not allowed. If you don't like system you can leave with all your property(except land of course). And competition between several such systems is possible too so you can choose.