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Mani
05-04-2011, 12:42 AM
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/0502/SEAL-Team-Six-How-American-forces-found-bin-Laden

Ten years ago, the American intelligence establishment still utilized technologies designed to follow Soviet tanks, not individual terrorists. Sept. 11 accelerated a shift to personal tracking that culminated last week when U.S. Navy SEALs gunned down Osama bin Laden in his Pakistani compound. Over the last decade, technologies that monitored phone calls, engaged in complex computer searches and provided constant drone surveillance isolated, disabled, and finally found the world's most wanted man.

More than simply finding bin Laden, advanced surveillance technology boxed in the al-Qaida leader. He knew that the U.S. could track his phone calls, watch his Internet traffic and follow his movements, so he avoided electronic communication and travel at all costs. That fear of technology turned bin Laden into a stationary target, and led him to create of a compound whose absence of incoming phone lines actually made it easier to identify.

"Overhead assets are very good at tracking machinery that looks different from other machinery, but not so good at tracking people that look different from other people," said Martin Libicki, an analyst in cyber issues for the Rand Corporation. "The compound had no Internet and no phone lines, which was strange. High technology narrows the list of options available to other people."

White House officials claim that the key to finding bin Laden came when a detainee gave up the name of Osama's main courier. Essentially, it began with the same kind of tip from an informant that begins even the most prosaic police investigations. However, enabled by developments in computer science and robotic aeronautics, intelligence officials could take the classic police procedures of wiretapping and stake outs, and expand them to a global reach.

Computer power has increased so substantially that the U.S. National Security Agency can -- and does -- search nearly all of the world's phone and email traffic for specific keywords, said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org and an expert on defense technology and policy. When not listening, the U.S watches. Drone aircraft fill the sky by the hundreds, allowing American intelligence officers to follow targets of interest on a camera feed every minute of every day, Pike told InnovationNewsDaily. Some even credit a specially designed persistent camera system called "Gorgon Stare" for single-handedly reducing the scale of violence in Iraq.

The advances in computer and drone technology have also drastically reduced the cost of running wiretapping and airborne surveillance every hour of every day. The intelligence aspect of the operation that finally found bin Laden likely only cost a few million dollars, Pike said, a cost far below the expense of a single day of combat in Iraq or Afghanistan.

When combined, these two technologies allow intelligence officials to take the classic police procedures of wiretapping and stake outs and expand both to a global reach.

"Persistent surveillance [by drone aircraft], in particular, is the modern equivalent of good old- fashioned police work," Pike said. "It's a stakeout, isn't it? In the good old days, you'd park across the street and order in pizza. Well, the drone doesn’t need pizza."

ForLibertyFight
05-04-2011, 12:47 AM
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/assets_c/2010/02/big-brother-poster-thumb-200x293.jpg

Anti Federalist
05-04-2011, 12:51 AM
but a little scary if used back home.

ECHELON has been in place for all domestic telephone traffic for over 20 years now.

Drones are already conducting surveillance on US cities on a regular basis.

A "little" scary?

You are witnessing the death of any sort of privacy, the birth of the global total surveillance grid, where nothing, anywhere, will be beyond government's all seeing eye.

Mani
05-04-2011, 01:03 AM
ECHELON has been in place for all domestic telephone traffic for over 20 years now.

Drones are already conducting surveillance on US cities on a regular basis.

A "little" scary?

You are witnessing the death of any sort of privacy, the birth of the global total surveillance grid, where nothing, anywhere, will be beyond government's all seeing eye.


I've never seen any government official ACTUALLY ADMIT all phone and internet are monitored and there are HUNDREDS of drones in the sky watching every minute.

That was chilling.

Conspiracy theorists talking about being watched from above....FUCK ME, they were right. I just never imagined "hundreds" There are HUNDREDS of drones flying around capturing everything? That is minority Report sci fi stuff right there, but real.

Anti Federalist
05-04-2011, 01:12 AM
I've never seen any government official ACTUALLY ADMIT all phone and internet are monitored and there are HUNDREDS of drones in the sky watching every minute.

That was chilling.

Conspiracy theorists talking about being watched from above....FUCK ME, they were right. I just never imagined "hundreds" There are HUNDREDS of drones flying around capturing everything? That is minority Report sci fi stuff right there, but real.

The reports on all this are voluminous, dutifully posted by resident conspiracy theorists such as your truly.

Sadly, it's too late to stop it now, and most people don't care and happily wear their electronic dog collars everywhere they go.

Just like they will happily accept the implanted VeriChip RFID tracking device in the next few years.

Short term, do what I do, pray for a solar flare of titanic, nay, Biblical proportions that will fry every single satellite in earth orbit.

Agorism
05-04-2011, 01:38 AM
What's ECHELON do exactly.

Anti Federalist
05-04-2011, 01:52 AM
What's ECHELON do exactly.

A world wide surveillance grid run by the intelligence services of the US, Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand IIRC.

And outdated system now, mostly supplanted now that data has moved from satellites to FO.

But that's monitored closely as well.

ECHELON pioneered the "red flag" concept of wide sweeping "SIGINT" or signal intelligence. Using a precursor to Google search algorithms, it swept billions of conversations and honed in on "keywords"...whatever keyword programmers wanted to look for.

The system would then flag, alert and record the data or conversation for analysis and review by spooks, mostly at NSA.

It's been in place for decades now.

DamianTV
05-04-2011, 02:04 AM
This is what brought Bin Laden down.

http://also.kottke.org/misc/images/iphone-parallels.jpg

jmdrake
05-04-2011, 04:58 AM
I've never seen any government official ACTUALLY ADMIT all phone and internet are monitored and there are HUNDREDS of drones in the sky watching every minute.

That was chilling.

Conspiracy theorists talking about being watched from above....FUCK ME, they were right. I just never imagined "hundreds" There are HUNDREDS of drones flying around capturing everything? That is minority Report sci fi stuff right there, but real.

It's been admitted before. This is just the first time that you were paying attention. I'm glad you were. But I hope you realize how much this frustrates us "conspiracy theorists" when we say day after day "Look at all of this crap happening all around you! Here are the mainstream media reports" and we're dismissed as tin foil hatters.

Here's a report from several years ago where the monitoring of all electronic communications was admitted.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/view/

jmdrake
05-04-2011, 05:05 AM
A world wide surveillance grid run by the intelligence services of the US, Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand IIRC.

And outdated system now, mostly supplanted now that data has moved from satellites to FO.

But that's monitored closely as well.

ECHELON pioneered the "red flag" concept of wide sweeping "SIGINT" or signal intelligence. Using a precursor to Google search algorithms, it swept billions of conversations and honed in on "keywords"...whatever keyword programmers wanted to look for.

The system would then flag, alert and record the data or conversation for analysis and review by spooks, mostly at NSA.

It's been in place for decades now.

Yep. It's all right here.

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm

You know what's sad? This "report" didn't even phase me. I'm like "Yeah? What else is new?" I mean really folks. Didn't you remember the reports of how Osama Bin Laden supposedly quit using cell phones because he was afraid of being tracked? That was the whole point of the supposed "courier network" the our government supposedly cracked due to "harsh interrogation techniques" (which Cheney said were used and Rumsfeld said weren't). Why do you think groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation have been working overtime releasing software like TOR and FreeNet? Did you really think it was so some skuzzball could download child porn or some teeny bopper could download Lady Gaga without the recording industry breathing down his/her neck? And why do you think the government is busy pushing for Internet "kill switch" legislation or government managed online IDs? There's a civil cyber cold war going on around you everyday. And our side's losing.

Sola_Fide
05-04-2011, 05:14 AM
Wow....