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TNforPaul45
04-28-2011, 01:09 PM
Just FYI. Someone post a tube when you get it...

low preference guy
04-28-2011, 01:13 PM
stream: http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/citadel/?sid=5864

Does anyone know what time is Ron supposed to be on?

low preference guy
04-28-2011, 01:15 PM
I just heard Hannity say "the interesting thing is" about some random topic. It's catching on.

emazur
04-28-2011, 01:24 PM
I wish I had recorded the part where Hannity said he would never "bear false witness" about someone (Paul segment hasn't yet aired as I type this). We could totally smack him in the face with that

payme_rick
04-28-2011, 01:35 PM
In Hannity-speak, this tube needs to be the antithesis of all other tubes and must be posted with great specificity!

sratiug
04-28-2011, 01:38 PM
How does anyone listen to this jackass?

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 01:38 PM
Hannity often uses his radio show to 'screen' his tv show. He might be asking about Ron's social security / medicare thing. Is it still coming on? I'm hearing about an idiot wedding. In England maybe?

zacharyrow
04-28-2011, 01:39 PM
Hannity often uses his radio show to 'screen' his tv show. He might be asking about Ron's social security / medicare thing. Is it still coming on? I'm hearing about an idiot wedding. In England maybe?

He said just a minute ago "Ron Paul coming up later in the show" boo.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 01:40 PM
Are the rest of you hearing a discussion of women obeying their husbands?

notsure
04-28-2011, 01:42 PM
It's a 3 hour show. I just heard Ron mentioned, he said he'll be on later.
Here's the call in number if anyone ever thought about calling in. 1.800.941.7326

notsure
04-28-2011, 01:43 PM
Are the rest of you hearing a discussion of women obeying their husbands?

Yep. Now about birth certificates.

payme_rick
04-28-2011, 01:47 PM
This dude is a ruhtard!

thedude
04-28-2011, 01:49 PM
is he schooling listeners on inflation and the Federal Reserve? this is hannity?

White Bear Lake
04-28-2011, 01:50 PM
I don't see how Hannity has got so big, he simply doesn't have that much talent. Rush pisses me off but I can see how he atleast has a huge amount of radio talent. Hannity just repeats slogans and doesn't go deep into anything.

LisaNY
04-28-2011, 01:51 PM
is he schooling listeners on inflation and the Federal Reserve? this is hannity?

I know!!!!

bobbyw24
04-28-2011, 01:52 PM
Hannity said that when the Fed prints money without abandon, we get high inflation

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 01:52 PM
They just said Ron coming up.

Working Poor
04-28-2011, 01:52 PM
is he schooling listeners on inflation and the federal reserve? This is hannity?

lol!!!

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 01:54 PM
Hannity said that when the Fed prints money without abandon, we get high inflation

Dr. Paul changed the debate last go around...no doubt about it.

bobbyw24
04-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Dr. Paul changed the debate last go around...no doubt about it.

That's right. Dr. Paul said he does not want power, but influence and he has got the latter now--not doubt

pacelli
04-28-2011, 01:58 PM
ok. ron coming up, lets go for crying out loud. My area is under a tornado WARNING. They're telling our county to shelter in place RIGHT NOW.

trey4sports
04-28-2011, 02:10 PM
ok. ron coming up, lets go for crying out loud. My area is under a tornado WARNING. They're telling our county to shelter in place RIGHT NOW.

Don't dare take shelter if you're the tube guy.

tubez > shelter

TomtheTinker
04-28-2011, 02:12 PM
was it on yet?

Fermli
04-28-2011, 02:12 PM
oh god Lamont Hill is on. can't bear to listen.

nah Paul hasn't been on yet.

stefank
04-28-2011, 02:13 PM
delete

thedude
04-28-2011, 02:22 PM
oh for the love of god... and they're going to have Paul on after this garbage? hannity is probably holding back the evil cackle

pacelli
04-28-2011, 02:23 PM
they're having ron on after this racial debate to basically ensure that nobody is listening. this is fucked up.

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 02:23 PM
oh for the love of god... and they're going to have Paul on after this garbage? hannity is probably holding back the evil cackle

This is pretty much par for the course on Hannity's show nowadays. I can't believe people listen to him.

LisaNY
04-28-2011, 02:26 PM
I'm glad he's having Ron on his show though. I might send him a 'thank you' email.

JamesButabi
04-28-2011, 02:29 PM
Ugh this is torture lol. Honestly I cant believe shows like these have a larger following than a show like FreeTalkLive. Its only a matter of time before that trend changes

stefank
04-28-2011, 02:29 PM
ron paul on the top of the hour

zacharyrow
04-28-2011, 02:29 PM
Top of the hour Paul will be on.

thedude
04-28-2011, 02:30 PM
they're having ron on after this racial debate to basically ensure that nobody is listening. this is fucked up.

I am one of them...

Somebody tube it!

payme_rick
04-28-2011, 02:31 PM
I almost do not want to listen to him talk to Ron because I know a good chunk of it will be "now congressman paul, what do your supporters have against little ole me?"

Just STFU about that already, geez...

I want Ron to say "Sean, be a man and let it go, I'm here to take care of business! Next question..."

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 02:33 PM
I almost do not want to listen to him talk to Ron because I know a good chunk of it will be "now congressman paul, what do your supporters have against little ole me?"

Just STFU about that already, geez...

I want Ron to say "Sean, be a man and let it go, I'm here to take care of business! Next question..."

Yeah, in a way I hope we get the same Dr. Paul as was on the young turks. But maybe he is going to reserve that aggressive style for msnbc hosts. :)

freshjiva
04-28-2011, 02:33 PM
I almost do not want to listen to him talk to Ron because I know a good chunk of it will be "now congressman paul, what do your supporters have against little ole me?"

Just STFU about that already, geez...

I want Ron to say "Sean, be a man and let it go, I'm here to take care of business! Next question..."

$50 says he'll mention it at least once.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 02:34 PM
I almost do not want to listen to him talk to Ron because I know a good chunk of it will be "now congressman paul, what do your supporters have against little ole me?"

Just STFU about that already, geez...

I want Ron to say "Sean, be a man and let it go, I'm here to take care of business! Next question..."

I'm not sure he will since he just confronted Ron on that on tv and Ron eventually said 'were you hurt?' and Hannity immediately changed the subject.

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 02:34 PM
$50 says he'll mention it at least once.

Attention Paul people if you are reading and he mentions the snowballs.

Tell Hannity: that was last time, this time we are gonna pick up momentum and "snowball" all the way to the nomination!

JCF
04-28-2011, 02:35 PM
Every time he has Rand on he brings up the Snowball incident, it's fucking annoying because anytime I talk to about Ron with Hannity listeners they always bring that up as some wedge against Ron.
--

Hannity always waits to have big name interviews, I guess it maximizes ratings/profits to have certain interviews during certain times of the day.

georgiaboy
04-28-2011, 02:35 PM
I'm not sure he will since he just confronted Ron on that on tv and Ron eventually said 'were you hurt?' and Hannity immediately changed the subject.

beat me to it. loved that line.

payme_rick
04-28-2011, 02:37 PM
Yeah, in a way I hope we get the same Dr. Paul as was on the young turks. But maybe he is going to reserve that aggressive style for msnbc hosts. :)

Lol...

Either way I hope he does well here because Sean can throw you off... Not because he's truely brilliant, but because he won't shut up...

pacelli
04-28-2011, 02:37 PM
come on shammity.

georgiaboy
04-28-2011, 02:37 PM
Every time he has Rand on he brings up the Snowball incident, it's fucking annoying because anytime I talk to about Ron with Hannity listeners they always bring that up as some wedge against Ron.
--

Hannity always waits to have big name interviews, I guess it maximizes ratings/profits to have certain interviews during certain times of the day.

Let's not forget the snowballs were in direct response to Sean's marginalizing Ron's massive text poll wins at the televised debates where Sean was supposed to be reporting and analyzing, in some sort of "fair and balanced" way.

georgiaboy
04-28-2011, 02:40 PM
Let's see, Sean marginalizes the most conservative and best candidate for president to come around in years, throwing the election to Obama, and he and his minions complain about snowballs? ok.

VBRonPaulFan
04-28-2011, 02:40 PM
Let's not forget the snowballs were in direct response to Sean's marginalizing Ron's massive text poll wins at the televised debates where Sean was supposed to be reporting and analyzing, in some sort of "fair and balanced" way.

yeah, what he did was f'd up and he deserved more than snowballs. he basically said that 'paulites' were flooding the polls and to ignore RP's results because it wasn't realistic.... jackass.

LisaNY
04-28-2011, 02:43 PM
uugggh he's still going on about jeremiah wright and sharia law.

Chieppa1
04-28-2011, 02:43 PM
$20 this about Israel/Muslims.

cdc482
04-28-2011, 02:44 PM
This is pure torture. How can anyone listen to Hannity or believe he is a genuine person?

trey4sports
04-28-2011, 02:46 PM
This is pure torture. How can anyone listen to Hannity or believe he is a genuine person?

hes a genuine douchebag

TNforPaul45
04-28-2011, 02:47 PM
I'm guessing Ron will be on the show at the top at the hour like previous poster said.

Good thing about that is that Ron will be on at 5pm eastern, which is rush hour for the East Coast. Millions of people listening to Awn Shannity in traffic, will hear Ron.

Not bad.

VBRonPaulFan
04-28-2011, 02:47 PM
that dude is seriously scared of muslims. i wonder if he pees himself a little bit when he walks close to someone with dark skin? in his world, obviously everyone from the middle east is strapped down with explosives on the daily.

cdc482
04-28-2011, 02:48 PM
I almost do not want to listen to him talk to Ron because I know a good chunk of it will be "now congressman paul, what do your supporters have against little ole me?"

Just STFU about that already, geez...

I want Ron to say "Sean, be a man and let it go, I'm here to take care of business! Next question..."

nice. I think it'd be quite an accomplishment to not punch him in the face after what he just said, "black liberation theology, marxism, the devil, democrats, obama, EVIL!"

Fermli
04-28-2011, 02:48 PM
an hour ago the conversation was on the same subject. what is this...

cdc482
04-28-2011, 02:49 PM
Lol. Just found out about the snowball incident.
Yes, it's wrong. Yes, the RP campaign should stand against it, and stop it from happening in the future.
But whoever did it, WAY TO GO!

tangent4ronpaul
04-28-2011, 02:52 PM
What's the snowball incident.

We pelted Hannity with snowballs in Iowa because he was treating Paul like shit. There should be some youtubes of it

Maybe it was NH and the youtube seems to be gone

zerosdontcount
04-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Still not on yet? I just tuned in...

Cowlesy
04-28-2011, 02:53 PM
Sean, we get it, Jeremiah Wright sucks. Seriously man, you need to sow seeds of doubt about what Obama really believes in your audience? Pretty sure they all hate him already as it stands.




zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

pacelli
04-28-2011, 02:55 PM
I feel like sean hannity is a fucking time murderer. They kill your time.. just a little bit... minute, by minute.

Lucille
04-28-2011, 02:56 PM
If Hannity brings up sharia law again, I hope RP reminds him that the wars he loves so much built two Islamic states (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260178/building-afghan-sharia-state-andrew-c-mccarthy) with Constitutions based on sharia law (http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w164.html).

Sola_Fide
04-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Who can listen to this trash on a daily basis?

Agorism
04-28-2011, 02:56 PM
Has Ron been up yet?

stefank
04-28-2011, 02:57 PM
hes about to

zerosdontcount
04-28-2011, 02:57 PM
You guys, get your mom 100 balloons for 19.99

Agorism
04-28-2011, 02:57 PM
You listened to Sean Hannity. Therefor you're been...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 02:58 PM
You guys, get your mom 100 balloons for 19.99

and make sure she obeys your dad (earlier hannity topic when I tuned in)

cdc482
04-28-2011, 02:58 PM
OMFG guys,
Sean Hannity can get us 100 BLOOMS IN A VASE FOR 19.99!! And they are guaranteed to stay fresh! And for 10 bucks more, we get chocolate!
Where does he get these amazing connections for super deals!?

EDIT: I just threw up a little when he said to your mom, from me.

jrice
04-28-2011, 02:58 PM
Don't think so... He's up next...

JamesButabi
04-28-2011, 02:59 PM
RP coming up in 1 min

JK/SEA
04-28-2011, 03:01 PM
i gotta take a dump...brb

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Gates is being pushed into retirement? Or was working for first Bush than Obama just an impossible experience to top?

Agorism
04-28-2011, 03:04 PM
link again?

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:05 PM
http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/citadel/?sid=5864

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 03:06 PM
link again?

lazy...

Perry
04-28-2011, 03:06 PM
I've never heard so many F*cking commercials in my entire life.

COpatriot
04-28-2011, 03:07 PM
Jesus this is awful.

JK/SEA
04-28-2011, 03:07 PM
geezus...still ads?...

where's my snowball?....

JCF
04-28-2011, 03:07 PM
The fucking snowballs.

WilliamC
04-28-2011, 03:08 PM
Here we go...

TNforPaul45
04-28-2011, 03:08 PM
Ah I get back to the computer and I hear "Snowballs."

Hannity grow some balls and quit asking about Snowballs

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:08 PM
What's the number? I wanna call him.

Fermli
04-28-2011, 03:08 PM
Ron Paul is on NOW !

http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/citadel/?sid=5864

COpatriot
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
And we're on

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
Ron paul

haha snowballs

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
Oh bruddah. The snowballs again.

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
Nice answer Ron

WilliamC
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
Sean is a child whining about snowballs

JK/SEA
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
there it is...snowball in 15 seconds

LisaNY
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
oh for fucks sake sean GET OVER IT!

JamesButabi
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
lol couldnt go one sentence without mentioning the snowballs.

zerosdontcount
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
HAHA sean you stupid hoser, nobody cares about your snowball stories.

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:10 PM
Because Republicans today hate civil liberties.

dbill27
04-28-2011, 03:10 PM
What's the number? I wanna call him.

1.800.941.7326

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:11 PM
Hannity is trying to sway his listeners, "He's not one of us. He's a libertarian."
Just like the MSNBC guy saying Ron "hates" America.

low preference guy
04-28-2011, 03:12 PM
snowballs!

johnrocks
04-28-2011, 03:12 PM
Well ain't this my damn luck, I've been listening to that boring ass show for two fucking hours just for the site to freeze up on me at this very moment in time! Sometimes I seriously hate computers!!!

Jeremy
04-28-2011, 03:12 PM
Who cares that he keeps bringing up the snowballs. It's funny. Just don't throw them at him again.

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:13 PM
Exactly. Today's GOP "conserves" all of their progressive counterparts "achievements."

Anti Federalist
04-28-2011, 03:13 PM
This thread is seriously making me LolZ

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 03:14 PM
HAH! Dr. Paul says he is not an anarchist.

WilliamC
04-28-2011, 03:14 PM
sean is giving Ron plenty of time at least

tangent4ronpaul
04-28-2011, 03:14 PM
Well ain't this my damn luck, I've been listening to that boring ass show for two fucking hours just for the site to freeze up on me at this very moment in time! Sometimes I seriously hate computers!!!

same here - twice... it's those dang paultards - I tell ya! Must have all connected at once :D

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:14 PM
I'd go for an open boarders guy. Maybe one day you'll meet someone whose lived here for 20+ years, has a family, 2 girls, and a house. According to his boss, he has been one of the best workers at his job for over 20 years. He got picked up by immigration. His crime: being born in a poor country and working to make a living. That happened to a guy I know this morning.

Jeremy
04-28-2011, 03:14 PM
Great interview so far.

jrice
04-28-2011, 03:15 PM
Is it just me.... or is this interview going very well???

IndianaPolitico
04-28-2011, 03:15 PM
He is doing quite well, he hit on how liberals want to intervene in people's lives. (A not so subtle jab at Hannity.)

tangent4ronpaul
04-28-2011, 03:15 PM
Who cares that he keeps bringing up the snowballs. It's funny. Just don't throw them at him again.

OH COME ON! - it's become a tradition! :D

low preference guy
04-28-2011, 03:15 PM
HAH! Dr. Paul says he is not an anarchist.

Haha. I heard that! Paraphrasing:


The anarchists want no government, which I'm not!

TNforPaul45
04-28-2011, 03:15 PM
Talking about Blowback now.

iamse7en
04-28-2011, 03:15 PM
Endorse him, Sean! Endorse him! Now!

Lol. I keed, I keed. Endorsement would sink his candidacy. :P

dbill27
04-28-2011, 03:16 PM
Seans been sucking up to Ron lately.

iamse7en
04-28-2011, 03:16 PM
Here we go. BLOWBACK.

TNforPaul45
04-28-2011, 03:17 PM
Ron Paul is getting REALLY REALLY good at framing his message into a Neo-Con viewpoint. He is allowing for some of their main points while plugging them into our viewpoint overall.

Whoever has been talking with him and helping him come to this technique, I owe you a Mr. Pibb!!!

Brilliant! You can gain the "establishment"'s respect and still not give up our ideals!

Ron said it best "You and I can work together Sean"

dbill27
04-28-2011, 03:17 PM
Blame bad policies!!!!

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:18 PM
Nice Ron. Imagine it from their perspective.

IndianaPolitico
04-28-2011, 03:18 PM
Ron just hit the nail on the head, he just said in regards to terrorism, you don't blame America, you don't blame American citizens, you blame bad policies! Great point.

jrice
04-28-2011, 03:19 PM
HA... Foreign policy... spoke to soon

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:19 PM
All Hannity ever does is repeat the same talking points, over and over and over...

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:19 PM
Sean totally just changed the subject, like "Oh, I'm losing this debate, let me change to something I know I can win the hearts of my listeners on..."

dbill27
04-28-2011, 03:19 PM
I know we think Ron's killing it, but the majority of sean's fans think Ron's striking out right now on foreign policy

jrice
04-28-2011, 03:20 PM
Woodrow Wilson hahah BAM!

Awesome

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:20 PM
How the hell can you compare a couple hundred extremist Muslims with no army, country, or goal of world domination to Nazis!?!?!

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:20 PM
Ron already acknowledged the irrationality of the Islamicists! Hannity is completely ignoring his argument about what motivates others to join them.

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:21 PM
Hehehehe.... Woodrow Wilson.

TNforPaul45
04-28-2011, 03:21 PM
Uh oh...this interview is going south fast.

dbill27
04-28-2011, 03:21 PM
Hannity endorses Wilson!! New Headline!

johnrocks
04-28-2011, 03:21 PM
lol, he just pwned Hannity on Woodrow Wilson,roflmao.

IndianaPolitico
04-28-2011, 03:22 PM
Oh yeah! Ron just asked Sean, "Is Woodrow Wilson a hero of yours?" Poor Sean, Ron is running circles around him!

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:22 PM
"every so kind to Muslims?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"

iamse7en
04-28-2011, 03:22 PM
Yes. Albright. Perfect, Ron.

Bruno
04-28-2011, 03:22 PM
Keep breaking it down for those not listening. Thanks!!

TNforPaul45
04-28-2011, 03:23 PM
"I gotta run! I gotta run!"

JCLibertarian
04-28-2011, 03:23 PM
I'd go for an open boarders guy. Maybe one day you'll meet someone whose lived here for 20+ years, has a family, 2 girls, and a house. According to his boss, he has been one of the best workers at his job for over 20 years. He got picked up by immigration. His crime: being born in a poor country and working to make a living. That happened to a guy I know this morning.

But he took our der. Those jobs belong uus. Only a liberal would believe in right of contract and giving a business the right to hire who they want. This is americuh god-damnit, and these illegals threaten the free market by threatening the solvency of the welfare state.

TNforPaul45
04-28-2011, 03:23 PM
And we just lost Sean lol

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 03:23 PM
I know we think Ron's killing it, but the majority of sean's fans think Ron's striking out right now on foreign policy

Probably. hannity spent all the time on his TV show with Ron sending out whistles to his base about 'this is why we don't like him, remember'? He doesn't have to say all the things he said so many times before.

Rothbardian Girl
04-28-2011, 03:23 PM
I hope someone is recording this. :D

cdc482
04-28-2011, 03:23 PM
Never wanted Sean.

low preference guy
04-28-2011, 03:24 PM
It was just one topic: blowback

Sola_Fide
04-28-2011, 03:24 PM
Oh yeah! Ron just asked Sean, "Is Woodrow Wilson a hero of yours?" Poor Sean, Ron is running circles around him!

Pwnt

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 03:24 PM
If I use the word 'geopolitical' do I get to 'win' too?

I think Ron didn't make the cut to the tv show.... if that was a screening....

Ron wants to reach Hannity's listeners, but Hannity isn't the same interviewer with Ron that he is with other Republicans.

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:24 PM
Hannity admits al Qaeda declared war on us, but totally ignored their reasons. Not once did they say they hate us for our freedoms.

The 14th anniversary of a war we refuse to understand (http://non-intervention.com/556/the-14th-anniversary-of-a-war-we-refuse-to-understand/)

I don't want to take the last word but....I'm going to take the last word.

iamse7en
04-28-2011, 03:24 PM
Ron did a great job. Bravo, Dr. Paul. We love you!

IndianaPolitico
04-28-2011, 03:24 PM
"I've got to run!" It doesn't suprise me Sean..... Everytime you begin to lose the argument, you change the subject, or just plain stop the interview.

pacelli
04-28-2011, 03:25 PM
It was just one topic: blowback

Yep. Could have saved everyone about 4 hours worth of waiting around by saying they'd be arguing about blowback.

I hope Ron's 2012 campaign doesn't focus on arguing about blowback.

JK/SEA
04-28-2011, 03:25 PM
Well Sean, hows it feel to run into a buzz saw?...lol

Aldanga
04-28-2011, 03:25 PM
I believe that the way Ron framed the debate and presented his ideas will make those open to the philosophy of liberty start to question their current views. It was things like this that eventually brought me over.

B+ to Hannity. A to Ron.

JCLibertarian
04-28-2011, 03:25 PM
How the hell can you compare a couple hundred extremist Muslims with no army, country, or goal of world domination to Nazis!?!?!

Because neither wanted to nor were capable of taking over America.

TNforPaul45
04-28-2011, 03:26 PM
Ron did a great job, but he needs to be more careful about his vocalizations and "groans" when he hears something that he disagrees with. He comes off, to the average listening, sounding a bit snide and cocky. We know he's right, but when people go on the emotional defensive, they will often stand up for something that is wrong in order to seek out the feeling of being right.

zacharyrow
04-28-2011, 03:26 PM
Ron is getting better :]

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 03:26 PM
Fox is running the debate on May 5. I suspect this interview is going to color the questions.

trey4sports
04-28-2011, 03:27 PM
I thought it was a sign that Sean is really really scared of us. He feels the tides shifting

Romulus
04-28-2011, 03:27 PM
yes he knows we are growing and here to stay.. we might be 'their' only chance to stop obama (gasp!)

Ha that was great.. 'gotta run'

TXcarlosTX
04-28-2011, 03:28 PM
The change in tone from neo-conservative radio host is shocking. The Ron Paul Revolution is changing minds one listener at a time.

Sola_Fide
04-28-2011, 03:28 PM
Fox is running the debate on May 5. I suspect this interview is going to color the questions.

You know it will.

iamse7en
04-28-2011, 03:28 PM
So, if going into Libya is bad policy, and could backfire, causing harm to America and her troops... Sean, are you blaming America? You unpatriotic bastard!

Agorism
04-28-2011, 03:28 PM
Hannity always attacks at what he perceives as the person's weakest point in this case foreign policy.

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:28 PM
Is anyone still listening? I closed it but I have no doubt the screeners will let every negative call though that comes in.

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 03:29 PM
im listening cuz i have a feeling he is gonna talk smack.

Occam's Banana
04-28-2011, 03:29 PM
Keep breaking it down for those not listening. Thanks!!

Yes, thanks!

The only thing better than listening to a Ron Paul interview is ...

... NOT having to listen to Ron Paul being interviewed by a blowhard like Hannity!
(because you can follow the blow-by-blow on RPFs) :D

zacharyrow
04-28-2011, 03:30 PM
I know the calls will be bad, but I'm listening anyways.

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:30 PM
I opened it back up. I must be a masochist.

Sola_Fide
04-28-2011, 03:30 PM
We should do a Hannityforum bomb right now.

ssantoro
04-28-2011, 03:31 PM
Hannity has been taken down. I bet he spent all week thinking he could win a debate with RP. He became annoyed at the end when he finaly realized he had been taken to the wood shed.

dbill27
04-28-2011, 03:31 PM
We should do a Hannityforum bomb right now.


Hannity has a forum?

Anti Federalist
04-28-2011, 03:32 PM
And we just lost Sean lol

We never, ever, ever "had" Shamity.

Cowlesy
04-28-2011, 03:34 PM
I thought the interview was fine. Sean has always been a neoconservative on foreign policy. He only sees us "saving" people, he will never see those we kill (who he likely thinks deserved it).

He could have been a total assbag, but he was very civil.

Coulda been worse.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 03:35 PM
I thought the interview was fine. Sean has always been a neoconservative on foreign policy. He only sees us "saving" people, he will never see those we kill (who he likely thinks deserved it).

He could have been a total assbag, but he was very civil.

Coulda been worse.

Yeah, but they host the first debate.

Fermli
04-28-2011, 03:35 PM
Ron must have referenced 5+ historical examples while Hannity used zero.

Well done Ron!

thedude
04-28-2011, 03:36 PM
I thought the interview was fine. Sean has always been a neoconservative on foreign policy. He only sees us "saving" people, he will never see those we kill (who he likely thinks deserved it).

He could have been a total assbag, but he was very civil.

Coulda been worse.

Agreed... I think that is main difference that separates us from folks like hannity. we see unnecessary death, provocation, and wasted money... they see saving lives.

Sola_Fide
04-28-2011, 03:36 PM
Hannity has a forum?

If you ever want to get a few minutes of fun, go there.

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 03:37 PM
We never, ever, ever "had" Shamity.

And we can never get Mr. 9/11. The guy who's radio show premiered nationwide on 9/10 and has literally made his career off of 9/11 and the WOT.

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 03:37 PM
If you ever want to get a few minutes of fun, go there.

Back in 2007 they burned ron paul supporters at the stake on that forum. The head mod was absolutely slanderous to Dr. Paul.

dbill27
04-28-2011, 03:39 PM
First caller likeS RON!!

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Wow. A positive call about Paul. He must have slipped in under the radar.

Cowlesy
04-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Who is the guy talking now? What a fruitball.

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 03:39 PM
NICE!! the first caller, "I really like the guy Ron Paul you had on, I wouldn't mind seeing him as President. I think he would get to the truth on a lot of issues like the Federal Reserve."

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 03:41 PM
LOL, Hannity hung up on the guy as soon as he said, "Council on Foreign Relations". lol

stefank
04-28-2011, 03:41 PM
he just cut the first caller off

SWATH
04-28-2011, 03:42 PM
What the heck I heard "Council on Foreign Relations" and the call was immediately dropped and the next caller was already talking.

What was he saying about the CFR I kind of tuned out for second?

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 03:43 PM
What the heck I heard "Council on Foreign Relations" and the call was immediately dropped and the next caller was already talking.

Yeah, they must have not been prepared with the delay button. lol A truth virus cell slipped through.

Anti Federalist
04-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Back in 2007 they burned ron paul supporters at the stake on that forum. The head mod was absolutely slanderous to Dr. Paul.

Ask Johnrocks, he has a gazillion posts over there.

Lee Kington was the head mod, he's been there forever and still there I think.

<<<proudly banned numerous times

ClayTrainor
04-28-2011, 03:47 PM
lol, I just came in at the tail end of that.

Hannity: "How about I just tell the truth"

Ron Paul: "when?"

Hannity: "All the time"

Ron paul: "Hahahahahah"

Hannity: "Okay, I gotta let you go, You're a waste of my time"

Edit: Ron Paul didn't say that, apparently it was someone trolling hannity. My bad.

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:47 PM
yeah, they must have not been prepared with the delay button. Lol a truth virus cell slipped through.

lol...

Anti Federalist
04-28-2011, 03:48 PM
And we can never get Mr. 9/11. The guy who's radio show premiered nationwide on 9/10 and has literally made his career off of 9/11 and the WOT.

That's right it did, I had completly forgotten about that.

Wren
04-28-2011, 03:49 PM
lol, I just came in at the tail end of that.

Hannity: "How about I just tell the truth"

Ron Paul: "when?"

Hannity: "All the time"

Ron paul: "Hahahahahah"

Hannity: "Okay, I gotta let you go, You're a waste of my time"

Dude, that wasn't RP lmao. That was a liberal guy calling in to troll hannity :p

Anti Federalist
04-28-2011, 03:49 PM
lol, I just came in at the tail end of that.

Hannity: "How about I just tell the truth"

Ron Paul: "when?"

Hannity: "All the time"

Ron paul: "Hahahahahah"

Hannity: "Okay, I gotta let you go, You're a waste of my time"

Did he really say that?

That's worth an iceball if he did.

ETA - NVM

ClayTrainor
04-28-2011, 03:50 PM
Dude, that wasn't RP lmao. That was a liberal guy calling in to troll hannity :p

Really? lol. Well, he sounded just like RP. My bad, lol.

JCF
04-28-2011, 03:50 PM
I don't think it's beneficial for Hannity to have anti-Paul callers to call in, because in will eventually lead to Hannity being a defender of Paul, whereas when a pro-paul guy calls in he can ALWAYS go on the offensive against Paul. Hannity always plays the defender of republicans, and I always hear his listeners parrot the same crap he does the same exact way.

The subconscious mind of the listener picks up this defensive/offensive mentality... If he always plays offensive against Paul, so will the listeners, if he always defends republicans, so will the listeners (as many of them tend to do).

Lucille
04-28-2011, 03:50 PM
I had to turn it off. I feel dumber just listening to Hannity.

daviddee
04-28-2011, 03:57 PM
...

FortisKID
04-28-2011, 04:04 PM
Its on youtube :P


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHMZJYIpu60

Kregisen
04-28-2011, 04:06 PM
3. That our military has not been in any worthwhile battle... since the American revolution.


WWII wasn't?????

Lucille
04-28-2011, 04:09 PM
Let's send Sean one of these:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSNgxjNgQih83x7rdknhpTErJCwtRkjf lRxFW_VKb4or5Xjn6ot

From,
The snowball-wielding Paulians.

ClayTrainor
04-28-2011, 04:10 PM
WWII wasn't?????


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke2hloDrb1c

Cutlerzzz
04-28-2011, 04:19 PM
WWII wasn't?????
While the German and Japanese governments were evil, the United States did not need to get involved. US intervention in WWI played a large role in the creation of Nazi Germany, while much earlier intervention in Japan played a role in creating Imperial Japan. Furthermore, the United States was involved in the war before Pearl Harbor. The US placed crippling sanctions on Japan to try and force them to end their war in China(ironically, it would have been in Japan's best interest to have stopped their aggression), was already fighting a Naval War with Germany, and was supplying Britain and China. Pearl Harbor was a classic example of blowback, though that is not to say that Japan was not wrong in what they did.

Then if you look at the aftermath, with 1/3rd of the worlds population living under communism not long after the war was over, much of the rest of the world in chaos, and US forces stationed around the world for the next 65 years, I would say that the United States was not better off and the world may not have been either.

Acala
04-28-2011, 04:25 PM
WWII wasn't?????

You mean the war to make the world safe for Soviet and Maoist communism? That war? The war that resulted in a permanent global deployment of the US military? That one?

Kregisen
04-28-2011, 04:30 PM
The US placed crippling sanctions on Japan to try and force them to end their war in China(ironically, it would have been in Japan's best interest to have stopped their aggression), was already fighting a Naval War with Germany, and was supplying Britain and China. Pearl Harbor was a classic example of blowback, though that is not to say that Japan was not wrong in what they did.

Yes I'm well aware of WWII history...the statement I quoted said WWII wasn't a worthwhile battle. Yes it was. I'm not saying we didn't egg on Japan to do something drastic, but once we were attacked, of course it was worthwhile to attack back. Are you seriously saying we should have done nothing after being attacked?


Then if you look at the aftermath, with 1/3rd of the worlds population living under communism not long after the war was over, much of the rest of the world in chaos, and US forces stationed around the world for the next 65 years, I would say that the United States was not better off and the world may not have been either.

Now that's a completely separate issue. Hawaii became a U.S. state in 1959 and then Obama was born there in 1961...if you don't want Obama as president, do you also believe Hawaii shouldn't have become a U.S. state?

Anti Federalist
04-28-2011, 04:31 PM
You mean the war to make the world safe for Soviet and Maoist communism? That war? The war that resulted in a permanent global deployment of the US military? That one?

Not to mention the tens, possibly hundreds, of millions of war dead, many of them non-combatants, both during and after the war.

Anti Federalist
04-28-2011, 04:34 PM
Are you seriously saying we should have done nothing after being attacked?

I can't speak for the OP in this sidebar, but I'm not.

All I'm saying is the "inside job" that was Pearl Harbor did just what it was supposed to do.

It made us respond in the only way possible, a full, land, air and naval war on two fronts.

Which was the goal all along.

JCLibertarian
04-28-2011, 04:37 PM
Pearl Harbor was a classic example of blowback, though that is not to say that Japan was not wrong in what they did.



Yea, Japan is evil for attacking a US Government Naval base, I mean, it isn't like US Government weapons weren't already killing Japanese Government troops or something:rolleyes:. Totally unprovoked.

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 04:38 PM
Is everybody in agreement that we are seeing a different Dr. Paul this time? Much more willing to throw some punches?

Cutlerzzz
04-28-2011, 04:40 PM
Yes I'm well aware of WWII history...the statement I quoted said WWII wasn't a worthwhile battle. Yes it was. I'm not saying we didn't egg on Japan to do something drastic, but once we were attacked, of course it was worthwhile to attack back. Are you seriously saying we should have done nothing after being attacked?

If you want to start history on December 7th 1941, then it was entirely justified. But history has been going on for much longer. WWII only happened because the United States did not follow a non interventionist foreign policy.


Now that's a completely separate issue. Hawaii became a U.S. state in 1959 and then Obama was born there in 1961...if you don't want Obama as president, do you also believe Hawaii shouldn't have become a U.S. state
I'm saying that the United States did not need to supply the Soviet Union and other despotic regimes to win the war once the United States became(unfortunately) involved. Had the US not done that the Iron Curtain is not taking half of Europe with it. To ignore and the cause and effect of a war and only look at it from December 7th 1941-August 15th 1945 is silly.

georgiaboy
04-28-2011, 04:41 PM
!Thread of the Day Award!

JCLibertarian
04-28-2011, 04:42 PM
Yes I'm well aware of WWII history...the statement I quoted said WWII wasn't a worthwhile battle. Yes it was. I'm not saying we didn't egg on Japan to do something drastic, but once we were attacked, of course it was worthwhile to attack back. Are you seriously saying we should have done nothing after being attacked?



Now that's a completely separate issue. Hawaii became a U.S. state in 1959 and then Obama was born there in 1961...if you don't want Obama as president, do you also believe Hawaii shouldn't have become a U.S. state?
Well first, stop using we, you weren't their, so stop acting like you were attacked. Secondly, I love your enthusiasm for war, though I doubt you would have shared it if you were forcefully conscripted into it and had to fight it yourself. Third, if it was such a worthwhile cause, Americans wouldn't have had to had been enslaved to fight it; if people viewed it as a threat to their security or to the security of those they care about, they would go on their own. It is pretty audacious and un-libertarian to commit others against their will to your fights. What America should have done is addressed why the underlying causes of why the Japanese attack happened and corrected them.

low preference guy
04-28-2011, 04:43 PM
Is everybody in agreement that we are seeing a different Dr. Paul this time? Much more willing to throw some punches?

absolutely. i was surprised at how aggressive he was in his interview with cenk yesterday.

Cutlerzzz
04-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Yea, Japan is evil for attacking a US Government Naval base, I mean, it isn't like US Government weapons weren't already killing Japanese Government troops or something:rolleyes:. Totally unprovoked.
So I guess that the Chinese were not justified in defending themselves against their Japanese liberators. :rolleyes:

Let's take a look at what Pearl Harbor brought Japan: 3 million dead, the complete destruction of their country, and foreign occupation to this day. I would say that Japan would have been much better off ending their warmongering and adopting a non interventionist foreign policy. Having other countries put sanctions against Japan and supply their enemies was blowback. I would hope that you agree with this, and are not arguing that Japan was ever right at any point in time during WWII.

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 04:51 PM
absolutely. i was surprised at how aggressive he was in his interview with cenk yesterday.

exactly, he called cenk out for misleading, linked hannity with woodrow wilson and told spitzer that he represented the status quo.
He is calling em out from the get-go. I think this is what people want to see/hear.

low preference guy
04-28-2011, 04:54 PM
exactly, he called cenk out for misleading, linked hannity with woodrow wilson and told spitzer that he represented the status quo.
He is calling em out from the get-go. I think this is what people want to see/hear.

it's like he is letting his "Rand Paul" side come out.

Aldanga
04-28-2011, 04:56 PM
I'd say he's revived the passion of his youth.

The Dark Knight
04-28-2011, 04:57 PM
the More the Neo Cons keep pushing for war, the more popular our movement becomes! 70% of Americans want us out of the wars! The republicans will not win back the presidency until they return to a sensible foreign policy

TheBlackPeterSchiff
04-28-2011, 04:58 PM
haha, Sean Hannity got murked!!

JCLibertarian
04-28-2011, 04:59 PM
So I guess that the Chinese were not justified in defending themselves against their Japanese liberators. :rolleyes:

Let's take a look at what Pearl Harbor brought Japan: 3 million dead, the complete destruction of their country, and foreign occupation to this day. I would say that Japan would have been much better off ending their warmongering and adopting a non interventionist foreign policy. Having other countries put sanctions against Japan and supply their enemies was blowback. I would hope that you agree with this, and are not arguing that Japan was ever right at any point in time during WWII.

I never said that, but that is totally different than forcing American citizens through extortion of their wealth to finance the purchasing of weapons to be given to the Chinese to kill Japanese military. America indirectly killed Japanese first, and the Japanese responded by attacking American Military targets. You are distracting from this matter of fact statement.

I don't believe any country was objectively "right", but the notion that Japan attacked unprovoked or that the American Government didn't finance the killing of Japanese Military before they attacked US Military targets is absurd.

Sola_Fide
04-28-2011, 05:01 PM
Is everybody in agreement that we are seeing a different Dr. Paul this time? Much more willing to throw some punches?

I like it. It tells me Ron understands the signs of our times.

S.Shorland
04-28-2011, 05:03 PM
I wasn't around last time but as a foreigner,I get an overwhelming sense that a potential American President needs to be an alpha male who says how it is and how it's going to be.Sean Hannity was tentatively asking Ron to 'come on over to our side' but he stated his position well and in fact I think he should arrange a private meeting with Hannity to see if there is any closer meeting of minds possible,

KramerDSP
04-28-2011, 05:05 PM
exactly, he called cenk out for misleading, linked hannity with woodrow wilson and told spitzer that he represented the status quo.
He is calling em out from the get-go. I think this is what people want to see/hear.

Amen! People are tired of politicians that sing and dance and spew words like the pied piper. RP is calling everybody out and he has nothing to lose.

Chieppa1
04-28-2011, 05:05 PM
Ron Paul is winning independents, that's what he's doing. The young people my age that voted for Obama because they hated Bush AND FOXNews. NOT because they liked Obama. Sure, he was cool and African American, but they just hated Bush. Ron making fun of the establishment hacks will work with a crowd. And the best thing we can hope for is "the same old tricks" because Ron is ready this time is sounds/looks like.

S.Shorland
04-28-2011, 05:08 PM
I have a strong feeling that we/you are pushing China very hard in the Meditterranean.They had 50 large business deals and 30,000 men there,29,000 of which had to be evacuated.Gaddhafi was the only leader who wouldn't join America's 'africa command' or africom.I think that China's backstop of Spain is their retaliation.The Euro might have been likely to collapse before the Dollar but China are going to spend as much as it takes to make sure the Dollar cracks first.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 05:13 PM
Sean Hannity was tentatively asking Ron to 'come on over to our side' I agree, and were Ron willing to 'give a little' and tone down on the foreign policy change activism, I think Fox might have gone one way down the potential unity GOP trail, and now might be thinking of another course of action.

Ron is who he is, though.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 05:14 PM
Ron Paul is winning independents, that's what he's doing. The young people my age that voted for Obama because they hated Bush AND FOXNews. NOT because they liked Obama. Sure, he was cool and African American, but they just hated Bush. Ron making fun of the establishment hacks will work with a crowd. And the best thing we can hope for is "the same old tricks" because Ron is ready this time is sounds/looks like.

I sure hope they are willing to register GOP, because by the time the general election comes around the die will be cast.

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 05:14 PM
I agree, and were Ron willing to 'give a little' and tone down on the foreign policy change activism, I think Fox might have gone one way down the potential unity GOP trail, and now might be thinking of another course of action.

Ron is who he is, though.

And if he had "gave a little" his own supporters would have ate him alive and Fox would have taken it as a weakness and attacked him even harder. Dr. Paul, linking Hannity to woodrow wilson was brilliant as it makes it hard for them to attack him further on it. Especially after Beck did those big Anti-Woodrow-wilson segments.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 05:17 PM
it's like he is letting his "Rand Paul" side come out.

No, he wasn't snarky, he was calling Cenk to task for irresponsibly stirring up division in time of crises, and pointing out a flaw in Spitzer's position, not calling him on using prostitutes.

I love Rand, but they are different people.

Brett85
04-28-2011, 05:17 PM
3. That our military has not been in any worthwhile battle... since the American revolution.

WWII and the original war in Afghanistan? We were attacked in both situations.

Cutlerzzz
04-28-2011, 05:17 PM
I never said that, but that is totally different than forcing American citizens through extortion of their wealth to finance the purchasing of weapons to be given to the Chinese to kill Japanese military. America indirectly killed Japanese first, and the Japanese responded by attacking American Military targets. You are distracting from this matter of fact statement.

I don't believe any country was objectively "right", but the notion that Japan attacked unprovoked or that the American Government didn't finance the killing of Japanese Military before they attacked US Military targets is absurd.

Some say that the Iranians have given supplies to insurgents in Iraq. If this is the case, does that mean that the United States would be justified in attacking Iran? No, of course not, as the United States is not justified to be in Iraq. Japan would only be right to attack the United States, in this case, if their war with China was justified, which is was not. Three wrongs do not make a right. Pearl Harbor was wrong, just as Japan was wrong in their war in China and the United States was wrong to get involved. Civilians died during Pearl Harbor BTW, which is to be expected given that it was a suprise attack.

Nobody put fourth the notion that Pearl Harbor was unprovoked. In my first post I clearly state that Pearl Harbor was caused by blowback.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 05:18 PM
And if he had "gave a little" his own supporters would have ate him alive and Fox would have taken it as a weakness and attacked him even harder. Dr. Paul, linking Hannity to woodrow wilson was brilliant as it makes it hard for them to attack him further on it. Especially after Beck did those big Anti-Woodrow-wilson segments.

Did you take from what I wrote that I thought he should have given ground to Hannity?

I must have seriously misspoken.

I think Hannity went away with a greater respect, but a more firm disagreement.

I DO think Ron needs to drop the 'one world government' buzzword. We know what he means but it sounds better when he says internationalism and violation of individual country sovreignity imho. I think he has been coached to use it because he didn't used to. I wonder if it is a buzz word Beck used or something?

specsaregood
04-28-2011, 05:21 PM
Did you take from what I wrote that I thought he should have given ground to Hannity?
I must have seriously misspoken.


No and you didn't. I was just expounding upon what you said.

I do disagree that if he had gave a little that they would "think Fox might have gone one way down the potential unity GOP trail".
I think they would have taken it as a weakness instead and used it to attack him.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 05:24 PM
could be. I'm just the sort of person who second guesses everything. Useless, really.

low preference guy
04-28-2011, 05:24 PM
I do disagree that if he had gave a little that they would "think Fox might have gone one way down the potential unity GOP trail".
I think they would have taken it as a weakness instead and used it to attack him.

agree

Kregisen
04-28-2011, 05:26 PM
If you want to start history on December 7th 1941, then it was entirely justified. But history has been going on for much longer. WWII only happened because the United States did not follow a non interventionist foreign policy.

Exactly my point. We can all agree that the U.S. was meddling in other nation's business which created big tensions and resulted in WWII, but again, the person who I responded to said WWII was not worthwhile. Yes it was. Because in the end, no matter who's fault or provoking it was, we were attacked and declared war upon. At that point you don't have a choice but to go to war, then hopefully end it fast and bring your troops home.



I'm saying that the United States did not need to supply the Soviet Union and other despotic regimes to win the war once the United States became(unfortunately) involved. Had the US not done that the Iron Curtain is not taking half of Europe with it. To ignore and the cause and effect of a war and only look at it from December 7th 1941-August 15th 1945 is silly.

Of course, when did I ever say we should have supplied the soviet union? We have to look at it from december 7th 1941 because at that point in time we had a choice to make, either go to war with japan or not after we were attacked.

Bruno
04-28-2011, 05:26 PM
Just listened to the two hour delay. Ron kicked Hannity's ass!!! Lmao!

LisaNY
04-28-2011, 05:27 PM
way to keep your head in the sand Hannity!

He can't grasp the concept of blowback because he's too stupid to think critically.

If our policies have nothing to do with inciting terrorism, then why aren't they committing jihad in places like china and canada?

civusamericanus
04-28-2011, 05:27 PM
In Hannity-speak, this tube needs to be the antithesis of all other tubes and must be posted with great specificity!
Haha... I was just laughing with my brother about Hannity Speak.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 05:28 PM
Exactly my point. We can all agree that the U.S. was meddling in other nation's business which created big tensions and resulted in WWII, but again, the person who I responded to said WWII was not worthwhile. Yes it was. Because in the end, no matter who's fault or provoking it was, we were attacked and declared war upon. At that point you don't have a choice but to go to war, then hopefully end it fast and bring your troops home.


Of course, when did I ever say we should have supplied the soviet union? We have to look at it from december 7th 1941 because at that point in time we had a choice to make, either go to war with japan or not after we were attacked.

I agree. It isn't like all other nations of the world WERE being noninterventionist or anything. It would be hard to unravel who went first. When you are attacked, though, you go to war.

When you AREN'T......

Cutlerzzz
04-28-2011, 05:28 PM
Exactly my point. We can all agree that the U.S. was meddling in other nation's business which created big tensions and resulted in WWII, but again, the person who I responded to said WWII was not worthwhile. Yes it was. Because in the end, no matter who's fault or provoking it was, we were attacked and declared war upon. At that point you don't have a choice but to go to war, then hopefully end it fast and bring your troops home.




Of course, when did I ever say we should have supplied the soviet union? We have to look at it from december 7th 1941 because at that point in time we had a choice to make, either go to war with japan or not after we were attacked.

Well I would agree that after Japan declares war on the US that the United States does not have a choice but to declare back, lol. They could not just stand there and do nothing when they being being shot at.

Kregisen
04-28-2011, 05:28 PM
Well first, stop using we, you weren't their, so stop acting like you were attacked.

lol let's be mature here.


Secondly, I love your enthusiasm for war, though I doubt you would have shared it if you were forcefully conscripted into it and had to fight it yourself. Third, if it was such a worthwhile cause, Americans wouldn't have had to had been enslaved to fight it; if people viewed it as a threat to their security or to the security of those they care about, they would go on their own. It is pretty audacious and un-libertarian to commit others against their will to your fights. What America should have done is addressed why the underlying causes of why the Japanese attack happened and corrected them.

lol now you're changing the topic to whether or not we should have a draft. If you want to argue whether or not we should have gone to war with Japan after they attacked us, then do it, but don't quote my posts and completely change the topic, when there are other people I could be replying to.

civusamericanus
04-28-2011, 05:31 PM
Here's the radio show from today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHKJBlrtmk

Kregisen
04-28-2011, 05:32 PM
Well I would agree that after Japan declares war on the US that the United States does not have a choice but to declare back, lol. They could not just stand there and do nothing when they being being shot at.

That's my point. But there's 1 or 2 people in this very thread who disagree lol. This whole thing started when I quoted someone who said the U.S. getting into WWII was not worthwhile.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 05:33 PM
Thing is, Hannity used up all Ron's time discussing the ONE topic his listeners would object to rather than the many topics where Ron has desperately needed solutions his listeners need to hear.

Sola_Fide
04-28-2011, 05:37 PM
Thing is, Hannity used up all Ron's time discussing the ONE topic his listeners would object to rather than the many topics where Ron has desperately needed solutions his listeners need to hear.

Exactly. I am not sure if this is good or bad though.

Bruno
04-28-2011, 05:39 PM
Hannity: "I agree with 95% of your views so I am going to focus 100% of our time on the other 5%". What a dumbass.

TortoiseDream
04-28-2011, 05:50 PM
Hannity is so obsessed with that snowball fight. Facking doochebag.

Working Poor
04-28-2011, 05:51 PM
it wasn't so bad to me...

Kregisen
04-28-2011, 05:55 PM
I think Ron did extremely well, but like others have said, I wish Hannity would talk more about other issues instead of just foreign policy. It's like interviewing Trump and only talking about universal healthcare or like interviewing Huckabee and only talking about immigration, or interviewing Romney and only talking about Romneycare, gun bans, his flip-flops on abortion, TARP bailout--- oh wait, Romney is a liberal on almost every issue.

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 05:56 PM
^^lol!

tpreitzel
04-28-2011, 05:57 PM
Sean, so people are born to hate, eh? Can one imagine Sean's vision of hating babies? LoL! Look out world, we have hating babies who'll grow up and spread their hate by dominating the world. Preventing that possibility somehow gives the US the right to kill the hating babies to prevent them from carrying out their diabolical plans of domination. The light never dawns on Sean (Shawn) that external forces mold babies into hating men, e.g. the reckless actions of foreign invaders.... Look out, Sean, Sharia is out to get you wherever you are even while you sleep. You might even have to grow a beard...

WilliamC
04-28-2011, 06:07 PM
Simply put, Sean Hannity and his ilk base their foreign policy on fear.

Ron Paul and his ilk base theirs on freedom.

ItsTime
04-28-2011, 06:09 PM
Simply put, Sean Hannity and his ilk base their foreign policy on fear.

Ron Paul and his ilk base theirs on freedom.

+1

Johnnymac
04-28-2011, 06:24 PM
mmmm, i listened to the first 10 seconds and im already pissed, he keeps bashing ron about the snowballs grrrrrr ..... oh i didnt do anything to you...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh2sBKpLxpQ you did you asshole

tpreitzel
04-28-2011, 06:37 PM
Ron tried to expose some of Sean's abnormal fear of Muslims by accurately stating that ALL groups of people contain radical members, but Sean obviously needs a psychiatrist to strip away his paranoia over Shariah.

Johnnymac
04-28-2011, 06:37 PM
i hate when he goes ... okay you host the show... like as if guests are not supposed make smart rebuttles and ask questions fucking asshole

sailingaway
04-28-2011, 06:41 PM
Ron tried to expose some of Sean's abnormal fear of Muslims by accurately stating that ALL groups of people contain radical members, but Sean obviously needs a psychiatrist to strip away his paranoia over Shariah.

fear of Muslims, nothing, that guy needs help with his irrational fear of snowballs...

pacelli
04-28-2011, 06:42 PM
Ron tried to expose some of Sean's abnormal fear of Muslims by accurately stating that ALL groups of people contain radical members, but Sean obviously needs a psychiatrist to strip away his paranoia over Shariah.

Honestly, Hannity is beyond help from even our profession.