RonPaul2012.com Launches

[Jeremy]

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

[thedude]

Great news!! I'm more comfortable donating for the Moneybomb to his website:

https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/

The Dude Abides!!

[HOLLYWOOD]

yeah baby!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/ron_Paul_2012.png

[BamaFanNKy]

It has that "CanDo" spirit.

Nice to see a Kentucky firm doing the website.

[Travlyr]

Nice! :)

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Needs a ticker.

[dannno]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWnmCu3U09w

[trey4sports]

Isn't the logo one that had been passed around the froums? Did they really decide to go with a grassroots logo? Nice


EDIT: looks like the campaign slogan will be, Restore America Now

[teacherone]

looks good!

[Jeremy]

I'm not a fan of the logo / A.

[low preference guy]

Isn't the logo one that had been passed around the froums?

i believe so.

[Jeremy]

Yeah I'm not liking the magic A. Hope they change it.

[teacherone]

needs a ticker.

[BamaFanNKy]

Yeah I'm not liking the magic A. Hope they change it.

What's your opposition to it?

[trey4sports]

Yeah I'm not liking the magic A. Hope they change it.

reminds me of Romney, Obama, Pepsi, and aquafresh. Everything else is dope. On a side note, isn't that a slogan (Restore America Now) that also originated here at RPF? Damn, we're RUNNING this campaign!

[trey4sports]

What's your opposition to it?


THe 3 colored A looks amateurish to me. It doesn't "POP" out like it's 3D and looks sloppy, but ehh, it looks a LOT better than what we got in 08

[Lucille]

His new twitter and (old) facebook accounts: http://twitter.com/ronpaul http://www.facebook.com/ronpaul

[Razmear]

http://RP12.com now points to the official site for your sign and banner making pleasure.

eb

[Romulus]

I'm not a fan of the logo / A.

Me either - It looks like Romney's thing... And the wife just said it reminded her of 'Obama'.. Hopefully its not set in stone at this point..

[BamaFanNKy]

Me either - It looks like Romney's thing... And the wife just said it reminded her of 'Obama'.. Hopefully its not set in stone at this point..

Wait..... it looks like a winning campaign logo..... we can't have that.

[steined]

I'm pretty sure things are still evolving folks.....

[Dave Aiello]

We need to be running the Iowa grassroots operation, too. We need a little help. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?289203-Grassroots-PAC-UPDATE

[AdamT]

Logo is amazing, modern and clean. Designed by 19 year old Skylar Hartman, homeschooled graphic designer.

[teacherone]

Logo is amazing, modern and clean. Designed by 19 year old Skylar Hartman, homeschooled graphic designer.

wow... that's awesome.

[K466]

Wooooohoooooo!

[Ethek]

I'm pretty sure things are still evolving folks.....

Good work so far! I was glad to see the domain in your hands.

[Austin]

See the thought process behind the logo here: http://www.hartmancollective.com/

[ronpaulhawaii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/227434_10150235243977953_663957952_8487566_2402774 _n.jpg

[Jeremy]

What's your opposition to it?

Look like an airline logo to me. If they're going to use it, at least don't use the A by itself like they have in the corner of the pictures.

[Dissident]

The font and composition of the logo are great. As for the three color bar in the "A", I think it's entirely unnecessary.

[smartguy911]

Great news!! I'm more comfortable donating for the Moneybomb to his website:

https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/

The Dude Abides!!

They accept paypal too :-)

[Mahkato]

How do we know who owns this domain?

[Jeremy]

How do we know who owns this domain?

Paid for by Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Exploratory Committee
www.RonPaul2012.com
Powered By CanDo

[zerosdontcount]

I don't like the A either... I hope this input get's passed on. I love everything else though. I also like the eagle design from the same artist...

[Austin]

How do we know who owns this domain?

It's legit.

[stefank]

like the shirts at http://www.hartmancollective.com/

[Austin]

I don't like the A either... I hope this input get's passed on. I love everything else though. I also like the eagle design from the same artist...

The eagle design is not from the same artist.

[MRoCkEd]

I'm also not feeling the "A."

Good to see the launch, though.

[Rocket80]

We need a ticker and a store! (I know I know it just came on today - but still)

[low preference guy]

for what it's worth, I like the A.

[teacherone]

the A is fine.

the website is well designed--clean and professional.

[Jeremy]

Some people don't like the A, while some people don't have a problem with it.

[ronpaulfollower999]

I kind of like the A. Almost like a brand name or logo. I'd like to see 12 used in Ron Paul's name (12on Paul). I imagine someone here will design a sign or something.

It is also really cool how the official campaign is using the designs and slogans that were created by users at RPF. Just shows how much of a true grassroots campaign this is.

[Jeremy]

I kind of like the A. Almost like a brand name or logo. I'd like to see 12 used in Ron Paul's name (12on Paul). I imagine someone here will design a sign or something.

It is also really cool how the official campaign is using the designs and slogans that were created by users at RPF. Just shows how much of a true grassroots campaign this is.
I think the "12 on Paul" logo is not good.

[ForLibertyFight]

A picture of Ron Paul and Ronald Reagan would be the perfect addition to the website.

http://garlinggauge.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/ron_paul_reagan_3.jpg
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan

[Harry96]

More than anything, they need to unflip the picture of Ron at the top. It's beyond me why people do that.

[ihsv]

Looks good. It's based on the Politico Wordpress template

http://themeforest.net/item/wordpress-politico/139979

They need a true custom-designed template for the official campaign site when they get to that point, though.

Here's the fullscreen preview: http://themeforest.net/item/wordpress-politico/full_screen_preview/139979

[kpfareal]

I like it!!!

[angelatc]

It has that "CanDo" spirit.

Nice to see a Kentucky firm doing the website.

I gotta say - I was dismayed to see that Terra Eclipse wasn't the designer of choice.

[Dissident]

If the campaign insists on using the "A", I think it would look better if the lighter blue was converted to the same blue used in the font.

[teacherone]

More than anything, they need to unflip the picture of Ron at the top. It's beyond me why people do that.

how can you tell?

[angelatc]

for what it's worth, I like the A.

I love the "A." Ties in with AMerica, red white blue....it's a good A

[Gage]

I like the A as well.

[Hotchney]

I liked the other eagle design better. Don't like the A very much. Looks weird.

[angelatc]

how can you tell?

I had to look, but I think it's the hair part.

[RonPaulRules]

I think you are all reading a little bit too much into the logo. It does not matter that much.

[teacherone]

Looks good. It's based on the Politico Wordpress template

http://themeforest.net/item/wordpress-politico/139979

They need a true custom-designed template for the official campaign site when they get to that point, though.

Here's the fullscreen preview: http://themeforest.net/item/wordpress-politico/full_screen_preview/139979

yeah it amazes me to see people pay webdesigners to upload templates when they could have done that themselves.

[Jeremy]

I think you are all reading a little bit too much into the logo. It does not matter that much.

It matters a lot of it's what they use for bumper stickers, signs, etc.

[AdamT]

The "A" is great! It's those little design elements that make it so good. The general public is bombarded constantly with super pro and expensively designed logos, and that's what they're used to seeing. Skylar's logo fits right in with modern logo design. Adds credibility to Ron and his run to those unfamiliar with him.

[libertybrewcity]

like the shirts at http://www.hartmancollective.com/

There are some great designs on there!

[ihsv]

They really should have done something with the "R" or the "P" instead of the "A".

[teacherone]

the A is for America.

it's good. just be happy people.

[Harry96]

I had to look, but I think it's the hair part.

It's amazing to me that anyone can't instantly tell. The hair part is the main thing, but flipping a picture also distorts the person's face slightly, puts their suit jacket's breast pocket on the wrong side, makes a man's jacket appear to be a woman's because it's buttoned the wrong way, etc. Like I said, it's beyond me why web designers do that. I would almost fire a designer, just for that. I mean it. It pisses me off that much. It makes the whole site look terrible.

[Nate-ForLiberty]

I think the logo is wonderful! The title bar that is completely gray needs color. I like the idea of having Ron Paul gray'd because it makes him look younger, but having all that gray really deadens the whole site. I'm not worried about it though. During the '08 campaign we saw plenty of changes to the official site. This is a great start and a great logo! Wish I could donate today!

[ihsv]

the A is for America.

it's good. just be happy people.

Unless they were told that the "A" stands for America, I doubt the general public would get it. The symbolism in a good mark or brand should be easily recognized.

[teacherone]

I think the logo is wonderful! The title bar that is completely gray needs color. I like the idea of having Ron Paul gray'd because it makes him look younger, but having all that gray really deadens the whole site. I'm not worried about it though. During the '08 campaign we saw plenty of changes to the official site. This is a great start and a great logo! Wish I could donate today!

true. title bar could be crimson.

[PaulConventionWV]

It will be fine. It doesn't matter as much as you think.

[Harry96]

I should mention that there's a design principle that you want someone looking into the page, rather than off of it; this is the main reason for flipping. If someone is pictured looking to their left (to the viewer's right), then you shouldn't put their picture on the right side (of a site, newspaper article, whatever) because they'll be looking off of the screen/page, and it looks wrong somehow.

But flipping is always obvious, so it's better to adjust the design to suit the picture, assuming you only have one -- which brings me to my other points:

1. There are tons of pics of Ron floating around, looking every which way.

2. Even if there weren't, I'm sure he'd be glad to pose for numerous photos for his new site, seated in every possible direction, so the webmaster has whatever pose he needs.

3. With this design, Ron is situated toward the center of the screen, so the picture didn't even need to be flipped, even if it was the only one they had and they could never get a different one! It's like someone flipped it for the heck of it, or got a flipped picture and couldn't recognize it as such. It makes the whole site looks like crap, and it's such an easy fix.

[sailingaway]

I think it is very cool that they tried out the logo on us before picking one.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Considering how important the ticker was in 2007-2008 to raising money, it's hard to understand why one isn't already up.

[teacherone]

I should mention that there's a design principle that you want someone looking into the page, rather than off of it; this is the main reason for flipping. If someone is pictured looking to their left (to the viewer's right), then you shouldn't put their picture on the right side (of a site, newspaper article, whatever) because they'll be looking off of the screen/page, and it looks wrong somehow.

But flipping is always obvious, so it's better to adjust the design to suit the picture, assuming you only have one -- which brings me to my other points:

1. There are tons of pics of Ron floating around, looking every which way.

2. Even if there weren't, I'm sure he'd be glad to pose for numerous photos for his new site, seated in every possible direction, so the webmaster has whatever pose he needs.

3. With this design, Ron is situated toward the center of the screen, so the picture didn't even need to be flipped, even if it was the only one they had and they could never get a different one! It's like someone flipped it for the heck of it, or got a flipped picture and couldn't recognize it as such. It makes the whole site looks like crap, and it's such an easy fix.

no need to flip out dude.

[sailingaway]

I liked the other eagle design better. Don't like the A very much. Looks weird.

This might be better for the campaign. We can use the eagle for grassroots stuff. We don't want stuff we do to look like it is coordinated with the campaign, in fact we'd want to say 'not associated with any candidate campaign'.

[mac_hine]

I give the A a B.

[low preference guy]

Considering how important the ticker was in 2007-2008 to raising money, it's hard to understand why one isn't already up.

Gary hired Ron's fundraiser guy from 2008. Maybe everyone else forgot about the ticker and somebody will have to remind them.

[sailingaway]

Damn, we're RUNNING this campaign!

cool.

[sailingaway]

Gary hired Ron's fundraiser guy from 2008. Maybe everyone else forgot and somebody will have to remind them.

pish tosh. Benton knows, and they had one up for the LibertyPac money bomb. I think they found out with Rand's that sometimes you DON'T want the other side to know your totals because then they know the amount to beat to be 'highest' and get the headline. (Rand's opponent just loaned a suitable amount to his own campaign.) Also, I understood the FEC had questions about it and I don't know how that turned out. Rand started just putting it up for money bombs after the primary was over.

I agree it is more fun for the grass roots to know what he has and to see it grow. It also helps us schedule money bombs and know when they are important. But there are other considerations.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

pish tosh. Benton knows, and they had one up for the LibertyPac money bomb. I think they found out with Rand's that sometimes you DON'T want the other side to know your totals because then they know the amount to beat to be 'highest' and get the headline.

Dumb, really dumb if they don't have a permanent ticker like in 2007 and just have it up for money bombs.

[MelissaWV]

The font and composition of the logo are great. As for the three color bar in the "A", I think it's entirely unnecessary.

I'm going with this one. They could have gone with a flourished "A" in the same shade of blue. I guess they wanted to introduce some red into it, but it just looks very Aquafresh :p


I think you are all reading a little bit too much into the logo. It does not matter that much.

Yeah no one remembers a logo. That's probably why we still have people talking about a rEVOLution, or why Obama's logo was everywhere even when his Hope-Change crap wasn't.


It's amazing to me that anyone can't instantly tell. The hair part is the main thing, but flipping a picture also distorts the person's face slightly, puts their suit jacket's breast pocket on the wrong side, makes a man's jacket appear to be a woman's because it's buttoned the wrong way, etc. Like I said, it's beyond me why web designers do that. I would almost fire a designer, just for that. I mean it. It pisses me off that much. It makes the whole site look terrible.

The flipping bothers you more than the fact it makes him look hunched and adds shoulder gerbils? :p I think there are nicer photos that could be used. I like the one at the top of LibertyForums more than the one at the top of the main site.

* * *

I agree about the ticker, and the gray bar looks fine to me but... eh... it would also look nice in crimson.

Overall it's a very nice site and, despite being a template site, looks somehow clean and different with the exception of that photo at the top.

[Nate-ForLiberty]

true. title bar could be crimson.

do you mean the title bar or the navigation bar? I like the gray navigation bar. That's nice. But the title bar with the logo, eagle, and Dr. Paul is too colorless.

[Nate-ForLiberty]

I think something should be done with the 'R' in "Ron". Maybe make that American flaggie. Then you could use that for "Ron" and "Restore" and also "Republican".


the 'A' is a little....ambiguous.

[smtwngrl]

I like the logo (including the A) and the eagle.

I prefer these t-shirts, though.

http://www.zazzle.com/ronpauldesigns

[dannno]

do you mean the title bar or the navigation bar? I like the gray navigation bar. That's nice. But the title bar with the logo, eagle, and Dr. Paul is too colorless.

I agree.. could also use more cowbell

[Nate-ForLiberty]

I agree.. could also use more cowbell


http://knowyourmeme.com/i/5131/original/cowbelljr1.jpg?1247108829

[The Dark Knight]

Guys we are a bunch of nerds, we are on here critiquing one letter on the website. I think we have work to do in other areas.

[Nate-ForLiberty]

Guys we are a bunch of nerds, we are on here critiquing one letter on the website. I think we have work to do in other areas.

are you kidding? We are legion. No detail is safe.

[Michigan11]

I am definitely the most excited person here!

[Matt Collins]

Gary hired Ron's fundraiser guy from 2008. Maybe everyone else forgot about the ticker and somebody will have to remind them.
Who is this? :confused:



The website guy reads RPF, I guarantee you that.

[Jeremy]

Guys we are a bunch of nerds, we are on here critiquing one letter on the website. I think we have work to do in other areas.

I don't think you realize the importance of design in campaigns. The campaign's job is to market Ron Paul to the voters. Imagine if Wal Mart didn't care about their logos.

[MelissaWV]

Guys we are a bunch of nerds, we are on here critiquing one letter on the website. I think we have work to do in other areas.

I wonder if the people who spent so much time obsessing over the "O" for 2008 thought it was silly :p

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Who is this? :confused:

Jonathan Bydlak. Ron Paul's 2008 fundraising director who is now working for Gary Johnson's campaign.

[S.Shorland]

One of the pictures there is Gage's.

Edit: More than one of his pictures!

[Shane Harris]

i like the eagle design more as well. an eagle in flight does a lot more for me than the letter A

[ihsv]

I wonder if the people who spent so much time obsessing over the "O" for 2008 thought it was silly :p

At least the general public knew what the "O" stood for

[dannno]

At least the general public knew what the "O" stood for

You would have thought it stood for orgasm the way they were acting.

[Jeremy]

i like the eagle design more as well. an eagle in flight does a lot more for me than the letter A

Oh, I don't like the eagle one more than this one though...

[2young2vote]

This red/white/blue slash thing is seriously stupid. I hated it on Romney's name and I hate it on Ron Paul's name. Come to think of it, I don't like the colors of the rest of the site either. Oh well. I'm sure there will many updates in the months to come.

[RadioDJforPaul]

...Freakin A!

I like it. Here we are again...4 years later. LETS GET THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD.

[MR2Fast2Catch]

I love the new website. It's clean and simple, and I like what's written on it so far. Already seems to have a different tone than the 2008 campaign (in a good way).

[ForLibertyFight]

A picture of Ron Paul and Ronald Reagan would be the perfect addition to the website.

http://garlinggauge.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/ron_paul_reagan_3.jpg
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
-Ronald Reagan

IMO this picture should be up to appeal to the conservative voters.

[RabbitMan]

I also LOVED Justin Wood's(sp?) Eagle design. While the shirts for this 'A' logo were nice, the logo by itself looks so ordinary and kitschy I want to vomit a little bit in my mouth. Well, it isn't that bad, but I do like hyperbole. I don't like this logo.

[nayjevin]

Nice site...

lol @ more criticism of the logo now that it's chosen than in the thread discussing it :)

[Romulus]

The font and composition of the logo are great. As for the three color bar in the "A", I think it's entirely unnecessary.

Totally Agree.. let the type stand on its own - no need for a gimicky "A" that really doesn't communicate anything other than 'looking nice'.


I'm also not feeling the "A."

Good to see the launch, though.


It matters a lot of it's what they use for bumper stickers, signs, etc.

Yes.


It's amazing to me that anyone can't instantly tell. The hair part is the main thing, but flipping a picture also distorts the person's face slightly, puts their suit jacket's breast pocket on the wrong side, makes a man's jacket appear to be a woman's because it's buttoned the wrong way, etc. Like I said, it's beyond me why web designers do that. I would almost fire a designer, just for that. I mean it. It pisses me off that much. It makes the whole site look terrible.

Agree here too... its amateur again...


Unless they were told that the "A" stands for America, I doubt the general public would get it. The symbolism in a good mark or brand should be easily recognized.

It has no concept at all.. its just "fluff"... Did Rand need a "logo"? No..

Drop the "A" gimmick, flip the photo to be correct and I think its fine... unless we want to come off as amateur again... "Its catching on!"

[MelissaWV]

Nice site...

lol @ more criticism of the logo now that it's chosen than in the thread discussing it :)

I think part of that might have been the perception that ideas were just being batted around. I would have thought the campaign would have seen the Aquafresh flourish in the "A" as not being the best idea. As more time goes on, I seriously hate it. Kudos to the person that came up with it, as some people do like it, but man... I can't get on board with it.

Pretty sure I said so early on. If I didn't, it would have been because others had already pointed out the issue.

[angelatc]

Dumb, really dumb if they don't have a permanent ticker like in 2007 and just have it up for money bombs.

He's still in exploratory, testing the waters mode. They're not supposed to be raising mad amounts of money yet.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Does anyone feel the opening was botched? A ticker, a mass e-mail, a Facebook request for donations would have gotten Ron Paul a lot of money today. And while it is an exploratory committee and the purpose isn't to raise ten million in a day; the chance for first day "Ron Paul still a fundraising force" stories was blown.

The media could have already been reporting that Ron Paul raised more on day one than Tim Pawlenty raised in his first two weeks (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?287835-Raises-160-000-In-First-Two-Weeks).

[angelatc]

Does anyone feel the opening was botched? A ticker, a mass e-mail, a Facebook request for donations would have gotten Ron Paul a lot of money today. And while it is an exploratory committee and the purpose isn't to raise ten million in a day; the chance for first day "Ron Paul still a fundraising force" stories was blown.

The media could have report that Ron Paul raised more on day one than Tim Pawlenty raised in his first two weeks (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?287835-Raises-160-000-In-First-Two-Weeks).

If he raises more than $5000, he's instantly promoted to candidate, and subjected to all the rules and regulations that go along with that. I doubt they want to raise money yet.

[malkusm]

(puts on tinfoil hat)

Hey guys, did you realize that Restore America Now spells RAN? Do you realize the implications of this?! This is definitely a signal that if Ron doesn't win in 2012, RAND will run in 2016 with the updated slogan, Restore America Now, Damn it!

(/tinfoil hat)

[UtahApocalypse]

If he raises more than $5000, he's instantly promoted to candidate, and subjected to all the rules and regulations that go along with that. I doubt they want to raise money yet.

excuse me?!?!?! where do you get that from?

[Romulus]

Nice site...

lol @ more criticism of the logo now that it's chosen than in the thread discussing it :)

I was right there in that thread.. and had the same critique about the "A"... I just wish it was a plain A. Romney crap logo is the LAST thing we want to be compared too. If we cant visually distinguish RP from the rest of the goons, then the general perception of him isnt going to change in the minds of the uninformed.

Easy fix, use a plain A. Less is more.

[JohnGalt1225]

Love it! I'm so excited. My wife is finally on board, we're talking about doing serious volunteer work and letter writing!

[low preference guy]

Does anyone feel the opening was botched? A ticker, a mass e-mail, a Facebook request for donations would have gotten Ron Paul a lot of money today. And while it is an exploratory committee and the purpose isn't to raise ten million in a day; the chance for first day "Ron Paul still a fundraising force" stories was blown.

The media could have already been reporting that Ron Paul raised more on day one than Tim Pawlenty raised in his first two weeks (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?287835-Raises-160-000-In-First-Two-Weeks).

I guess they decided to just let the May/5 money bomb bring in the money.

[Eric21ND]

If he raises more than $5000, he's instantly promoted to candidate, and subjected to all the rules and regulations that go along with that. I doubt they want to raise money yet.
I don't think that is accurate at all.

[Jeremy]

I think part of that might have been the perception that ideas were just being batted around. I would have thought the campaign would have seen the Aquafresh flourish in the "A" as not being the best idea. As more time goes on, I seriously hate it. Kudos to the person that came up with it, as some people do like it, but man... I can't get on board with it.

Pretty sure I said so early on. If I didn't, it would have been because others had already pointed out the issue.
I agree with you on both points. I didn't think the campaign would actually consider it and I don't like it. I think it's a nice design, but I don't think it's right for the main campaign logo. I don't like that eagle logo that was floating around here either.

[Paul4Prez]

I love the site, and the logo, and the slogan. I hope they add a presidential-looking video of Ron Paul, and an inspiring Ron Paul quote (or series of rotating quotes).

[libertarian4321]

Yup, needs the ticker, certainly by the time of the money bomb.

It'd also be nice if we could get some Ron Paul 2012 tshirts, hats, etc there. My 2008 stuff is looking a little ragged.

[yoshimaroka]

They should have a video montage of him during 2007/2008 predicting things that are now unfolding.

[goRPaul]

More than anything, they need to unflip the picture of Ron at the top. It's beyond me why people do that.

Its been flipped!

Edit: I saw it flipped earlier, now its back. Ron's a flopper.

[stefank]

Yup, needs the ticker, certainly by the time of the money bomb.

It'd also be nice if we could get some Ron Paul 2012 tshirts, hats, etc there. My 2008 stuff is looking a little ragged.

the shirts over here sure look really nice cant wait to get one http://www.hartmancollective.com/#1199325/Ron-Paul-2012-Brand-Proposal
theres also other versions of the logo on there like without the red white and blue A

[LibertyRevolution]

The stripes on the A have to go...

toothpaste...

Rainbows..

[markderidder]

The 2008 campaign website was awesome. Hopefully once he officially announces, they can add similar functionality and even layout. All that money we raised should be able to buy some high-production videos of Dr. Paul speaking to 10 of his 50 liberty points. I also like the idea of a montage of clips of Ron from 2007/2008 predictions that have come true.

Can't wait to see that ticker on the 5th! That needs to be his biggest bomb yet. I'm in for $100.

[TAB]

Why not just invert the colors? No need to scrap the whole logo.

I think it would be an improvement yet true to the original

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/relentless25/logo1.png

[Razmear]

Why not just invert the colors? No need to scrap the whole logo.

I think it would be an improvement yet true to the original

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/relentless25/logo1.png

Genius. Tweak it so it looks more gold and that's a winner.

[Razmear]

http://rp4.us/rplogo_mod.png

Color corrected version of Tab's negative.

[Jeremy]

Just makes it look like Star Wars box art. What's the point?

[cdc482]

I like it.

[The Dude]

I like the main banner, and the A doesn't bother me at all, but the A by itself should absolutely not be used as a campaign logo.

[Austin]

I like the main banner, and the A doesn't bother me at all, but the A by itself should absolutely not be used as a campaign logo.

I concur.

[AdamT]

Why not just invert the colors? No need to scrap the whole logo.

I think it would be an improvement yet true to the original

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/relentless25/logo1.png

Hmmm interesting.

[Ball]

I've been trying really hard not to get excited about this. After all the money and time spent last time around I was trying to guard my emotions. I avoided news in general (nearly all depressing). I kept my nose down. I even groaned a little when I found out he was running.

Dammit man, I can't help myself! Screw Obama, Ron Paul and this moment is real hope! Far from being worn weary from shouting from the rooftops as the whole free world goes down in flames I find my voice getting stronger.

What's the alternative, people? Do we go down with this ship of fools or do we rally the reality-based community and sail out of this storm of despotism and destruction? Discontentment is growing, and so will our numbers. If we reach out to what Eric Hoffer called the frustrated before the state does, offer them a positive, loving, and peaceful way out of this mire, we WILL see freedom in our lifetimes!

One thing is for sure: When it comes to freedom vs despotism, it's going to radically go one way or the other when the shit REALLY hits the fan. Does anyone here see a third way? I don't feel like cowering in fear, so I say it's time to stop discussing stupid shit like the logo and start pointing out the cost of food and gas and scream bloody inflation!

/soap box

[Ball]

(not that your logo isn't really nice TAB. I like it...just sayin'...)

[Shane Harris]

i dont like the yellow.