Ron Paul on Hannity 4/25 9PM EST

[low preference guy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txPB980tBws&feature=feedu

[KramerDSP]

I'm bracing myself.....

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

LMAO! I can't believe he's going to talk about the snowball incident! :D

[low preference guy]

Hannity:


I'll finally get to ask him why his supporters threw snowballs at me in 2008

[rawful]

This could be really good or really bad...

[dbill27]

Dick Morris, ugh

[specsaregood]

ugh, dick morris?
if he refers to dr. paul as a low tie guy in this segment....

[UtahApocalypse]

Knew this childish, immature shit would haunt us :(

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Ugghhh, I dont see how people could watch this stuff.

[ghengis86]

Knew this childish, immature shit would haunt us :(

looks like it haunts hannity more

[rawful]

Bachmann is great because she's a lawyer. Ugh

[specsaregood]

big surprise, dick loves newt.
bigger surprise ignore his next guest dr.paul

[Wren]

looks like it haunts hannity more

He's said that he actually found it funny

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Has Morris even bothered to mention RP yet?

[dbill27]

Ron's on the show tonight, but lets talk about every other possible candidate and ignore ron. Dick and sean suck.

[low preference guy]

Has Morris even bothered to mention RP yet?

No

[CharlesTX]

Can somebody please drop a bucket of live fire ants on DICK Morris' head?

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

As usual, they're going to ignore Ron Paul as a candidate. :mad:

[Jerkface]

Good God, Hannity and Dick sound like 2007 all over again.

[CharlesTX]

It looks like it's going to be a hit piece.

[UtahApocalypse]

up in next segment.... of course the focus is going to be on the stupid ass snowball crap. I sure the FUCK hope everyone has grown up this time around

[dbill27]

Good thing they are going to tackle the issues, Snowball fights.

[low preference guy]

It's not very positive to introduce RP as the man whose supporters threw snowballs at Hannity.

[cswake]

I just love the fact that the SNOWBALLS got under his skin.

[Zatch]

I think Dick Morris is a leprechaun.

[KramerDSP]

Snowballs. Sheesh.

This is going to be a horrible interview. I just hope RP has an answer in place for everything.

[Nic]

This show makes me sick to my stomach. I had to contain my vomit about 5 different times during the segment with Dick Morris.

[FSP-Rebel]

Turns out Hannity is going to bring up the snowball thing again.. Also, this is Ron's first time on the show according to the host, wonder why he stressed that.

[crhoades]

We should send a note to Hannity. We promise not to throw snowballs at him anymore as long as FOX doesn't exclude him from debates. Sounds fair to me.

[EndSlavery]

Dick Morris on the Peter Schiff show for those of you sitting in the commercial break like me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frM-GPAjzDY

[specsaregood]

Good thing they are going to tackle the issues, Snowball fights.

I hope dr. paul ties it into the concept of blowback.

[low preference guy]

This show makes me sick to my stomach. I had to contain my vomit about 5 different times during the segment with Dick Morris.

Like when he praised Trump as the personification of the free market, when he really represents corporatism as he uses the government to steal people's property through eminent domain.

[Zatch]

He was on Hannity and Colmes which became Hannity so it's technically not true.

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Like when he praised Trump as the personification of the free market, when he really represents corporatism as he uses the government to steal people's property through eminent domain.

He is the reason so many people hate Capitalism.

[KramerDSP]

"Did you get hurt?" shut Hannity up!

[specsaregood]

Hannity: I like your book, i've gone through it. Ed: some interns gave me some cliffnotes.

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

wooohoooo!!!

[UtahApocalypse]

It's Official!!!

"Im going to announce an exploratory committee."

[dbill27]

Great first half!!!!

[rawful]

First segment went well. I'm shocked.

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

OMG, I really cant stand Hannity. Please make it stop!!!!!!!!!!!

[KramerDSP]

Well, Hannity is being a *little* bit nicer and more respectful this time, but not all that much.

[low preference guy]

"Did you get hurt?" shut Hannity up!

Yeah. I want to give +rep to Ron for that.

[Nate-ForLiberty]

god, is he still whining about the snowballs. what a bitch.

[Fermli]

ugh, he kind of dodged the 'how fast are you going to fix the budget' question by going straight to foreign policy. Would have liked a better response to that.

[low preference guy]

Ron was MASTERFUL in his treatment of blowback.

[Eleventh Star]

Hannity seemed a little flustered on blowback, very diplomatic answer on Ron's part there.

[specsaregood]

hannity: "we'll see if he condemns his own supporters"

eff you hannity.

[Zatch]

Hannity must have PTSD from the snowball incident.

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Nice move bringing Michael Scheuer into the conversation. He's a regular guest all over Fox News.

[KramerDSP]

First segment went well. I'm shocked.

I'm curious what everyone else thinks. Ron is being coached, that's for sure. It's difficult saying one thing to Whoopi Goldberg and another to Sean Hannity within 10 hours of each other. LMAO. How does he do it?

[Corto_Maltese]

Nice to see Ron praising Michael Sheuer

[TIMB0B]

Oh, I wish Ron would've said islam would not be a threat to us because our national defense and constitution would not allow it to become a political power in our country.

[crhoades]

I was there for the snowball incident. Didn't throw any but was in the back of the group trying to get a look at what was going on. From my foggy memory, I thought everyone including Hannity was laughing. Wasn't an angry mob or anything.

[low preference guy]

I'm curious what everyone else thinks. Ron is being coached, that's for sure. It's difficult saying one thing to Whoopi Goldberg and another to Sean Hannity within 10 hours of each other. LMAO. How does he do it?

Don't forget that he is EXTREMELY smart.

[Fermli]

Nice move bringing Michael Scherer into the conversation. He's a regular guest all over Fox News.

yea that was really good, i love Scherer.

[specsaregood]

ugh, he kind of dodged the 'how fast are you going to fix the budget' question by going straight to foreign policy. Would have liked a better response to that.

You do realize the foreign policy answer is a big part of the answer to that question, yes?

[Fr3shjive]

As usual, they're going to ignore Ron Paul as a candidate. :mad:

How can you say that when RP is making his first appearance ever on Hannity. The interview is actually going much better than I expected and Hannity is giving him a chance to talk.

Its going to be much harder to ignore RP this time around.

[Michael Landon]

30... that's the IQ cut off. Less than 30 doesn't understand the concept of blowback, over 30 is intelligent enough to understand that there are consequences to our occupations of foreign lands. Apparently, Hannity has an IQ less than 30.

- ML

[KramerDSP]

"I wonder why?" Brilliant!

[crhoades]

He got our back.

[UtahApocalypse]

snowballs went over much better then I thought it would

[TIMB0B]

Ha! No condemnation! Dr. Paul is awesome!

[Nate-ForLiberty]

wow! Ron really handled that snow ball question perfectly!!

ZEN MASTER!

[specsaregood]

dr paul defused the snowball situation perfectly.

[KramerDSP]

"We have to defend our principles. This is a private property issue."

[ghengis86]

wow! Ron really handled that snow ball question perfectly!!

ZEN MASTER!

not watching; what did he say?

[crhoades]

Hannity just got owned

[specsaregood]

Nice, he said what Hannity proposed was closing the door on what made america great. Hannity immediately tried to change the subject but Ron continued. That was great.

[ghengis86]

tubez plz

[low preference guy]

it went well

[UtahApocalypse]

That was actually a very good 2-part segment. I am soooo impressed with the good Dr.

I am pumped to get things going!!!

[dbill27]

Ron hit a homerun in front of millions of people.

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Good stuff. Thank God I dont have to watch this any more. He kept going on about this guy that wants Sharia law in America. So what!!!!! That guy has no power unless you give it to him!!!

[KramerDSP]

Wow! Color me impressed! What this interview basically did was it told Hannity's neo-conservative audience that RP has a friggin seat at the table and that his ideas need to be heard and debated, if not agreed with entirely.

[sailingaway]

Saw part of it. That is not what you call a softball interview, mosque, how do you get rid of medicare (planting the idea that that was his plan...) etc.

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

The 2nd segment was even better than the first. :)

[ctiger2]

I'm curious what everyone else thinks. Ron is being coached, that's for sure. It's difficult saying one thing to Whoopi Goldberg and another to Sean Hannity within 10 hours of each other. LMAO. How does he do it?

Ron is not being coached. Sure, some advisers may mention a few things but what you'll always get with Ron is Ron.

[BLS]

VERY fair interview. Gave Ron time to answer and was polite.

[crhoades]

Hannity looked like a complete boob trying to do his football throwing thing next to a statesman. He should have been engaging his guest. Disrespectful. To bad it isn't colder out. Hard to for snowballs at 80 degrees! Lol

[Nate-ForLiberty]

not watching; what did he say?


He just laughed it off and brought up how Hitlery said Dr. Paul's supporters were the most energetic and enthusiastic supporters she had ever seen. The only thing Hannity could do is laugh with him and then move on.

At the end of the interview Hannity asked if Ron would tell his supporters not to throw snowballs this time. Dr. Paul said he doesn't tell people what to do, he advises.

Wonderfully done Dr. Paul!

[Corto_Maltese]

This was awesome!

[HarryBrowneLives]

I thought he did just fine. Think Ron is being coached a bit and it shows. The NYC Mosque wasn't an issue that I would have anticipated and think that was Sean's "silver bullet" question that Ron handled very well. I wish Ron would have been a bit stronger when he was handed the budget question on the end there in terms of 'how do you fix it?"

[trey4sports]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

I thought Hannity was nothing more than a fuckin scumbag after that interview. The whole thing was designed to marginalize Ron, and for fucks sake having that little bitch Dick Morris talking about his "first tier" candidates beforehand, jesus christ


FUCK YOU HANNITY!

Snowball Part deuce

[Ray]

That was actually more reasonable than I thought it would be

[low preference guy]

Saw part of it. That is not what you call a softball interview, mosque, how do you get rid of medicare (planting the idea that that was his plan...) etc.

Yes. Those with careful eyes realize that Sean Hannity did his goddamn best to portray Ron in the most negative light possible. But in the context of the Tea Party, having Rand Paul as a Senator, and Ron gaining widespread respectability, that was the best Hannity could do.

Ron dealt with it so well that some don't even see it was a hit piece. Kudos to Ron.

[KramerDSP]

not watching; what did he say?

Hannity said "Are you going to condemn your supporters for throwing snowballs at me?"

Ron: "You heard what Hillary said at one of the committee hearings about my supporters being the most exciteable and enthusiastic..."

Hannity laughed and moved onto the NYC Mosque issue.

[Michael Landon]

It was a good interview for Ron Paul supporters but I'm not sure how the Hannity watchers view it. I hope it converted a few but I'm not optimistic that it did.

- ML

[sailingaway]

Hannity seemed a little flustered on blowback, very diplomatic answer on Ron's part there.

He seemed a little bit frustrated over Ron's answer on the mosque, too. :D

[rawful]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

I thought Hannity was nothing more than a fuckin scumbag after that interview. The whole thing was designed to marginalize Ron, and for fucks sake having that little bitch Dick Morris talking about his "first tier" candidates beforehand, jesus christ


FUCK YOU HANNITY!

Snowball Part deuce

I don't think he was marginalized at all. He got Hannity to say they agreed multiple times, and he never insulted his views directly (like the post-Guiliani fiasco). Ron did a great job.

[FSP-Rebel]

Yes. Those with careful eyes realize that Sean Hannity did his goddamn best to portray Ron in the most negative light possible. And in the context of the Tea Party, having Rand Paul as a Senator, and Ron gaining widespread respectability, that was the best Hannity could do.

Ron dealt with it so well that some don't even see it was a hit piece. Kudos to Ron.

Agreed totally

[KramerDSP]

Hannity: "Isn't that opening the door to someone overthrowing America?"

RP: " No, it's closing the door on what made America great."

[SilentBull]

Holy crap! If this is a preview of how Ron Paul plans to present himself in this election, I love our chances!! That was an awesome interview! He was calm and came across as very intelligent.

[cindy25]

Hannity was fair, I was surprised. the snowball thing was childish but not mean spirited. Morris is 100% neo-con; Hannity has some libertarian in him; he could flip; not likely but not hopeless either.

[Brett85]

Hannity looked like a complete boob trying to do his football throwing thing next to a statesman. He should have been engaging his guest. Disrespectful. To bad it isn't colder out. Hard to for snowballs at 80 degrees! Lol

I didn't see that at all. I thought Sean was very respectful to Ron.

[specsaregood]

Hannity: "Isn't that opening the door to someone overthrowing America?"

RP: " No, it's closing the door on what made America great."

That was the best exchange of the whole piece. Was great.

[KramerDSP]

Holy crap! If this is a preview of how Ron Paul plans to present himself in this election, I love our chances!! That was an awesome interview! He was calm and came across as very intelligent.

+Rep

[sailingaway]

It was a good interview for Ron Paul supporters but I'm not sure how the Hannity watchers view it. I hope it converted a few but I'm not optimistic that it did.

- ML

I don't know if it converted many but most have been hearing about Ron on the mosque and anyone with the most rudimentary understanding of liberty would understand Ron's answer.

[specsaregood]

btw, this greta chick's eyebrows refuse to move. its kinda creepy.

[Nic]

Anyone else think it was brilliant for him to let the cat out of the bag about his announcement tomorrow? I was really pleased with the tone and the way he handled that interview. Hannity challenged him, but was more respectful than I was expecting.

[rawful]

The most important aspect of the interview was Ron mentioning Michael Scheuer. Hannity (as usual) wanted to paint Ron as blaming America, but once he mentioned a credible source like that the attempted smear was neutralized.

[trey4sports]

btw, this greta chick's eyebrows refuse to move. its kinda creepy.


Greta is creepy. Period

[Dorfsmith]

Youtube?

[Inkblots]

Greta is creepy. Period

She's a Scientologist, nisi erro. That probably explains it.

[Brian4Liberty]

The neo-conservatives, including Hannity and Levin, have been heavily courting "libertarian" leaning Republicans for months now. They talk glowingly about Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, etc. Their concern for smaller government is a complete farce, but their love of Objectivist zionism and globalism/Oligarchy/world police is real.

[sailingaway]

She's a Scientologist, nisi erro. That probably explains it.

Not botox?

[specsaregood]

Greta is creepy. Period

yeah, either too much botox or she is reptilian and her human skin isn't working right.

[civusamericanus]

yeah, either too much botox or she is reptilian and her human skin isn't working right.

For goodness sakes, the woman had a stroke when she was 42.

[freshjiva]

Solid interview, but I was a bit disappointed with Ron's responses regarding how he'd bring the entitlement system down to size.

He really needs to start citing from his own essay about his transition plan (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul647.html).

He really needs to start laying out specifics, and repeat them over and over. Talk about how he wants to let young people opt out of social security. Maybe endorse Rand Paul's idea on how to balance Social Security by raising the retirement age and have means testing.

Talk about how he'd introduce price competition in healthcare to ease Medicare costs, beginning with ending the unconstitutional power the FDA has over the drug industry, as well as ending corporate subsidies.

I know you had extremely limited time, Ron, but you gotta lay out specifics!!

[trey4sports]

For goodness sakes, the woman had a stroke when she was 42.

That's a conspiracy theory,

she's actually a lizard person. Ask YumYum

[Fredom101]

toobz pleez?

[Anti Federalist]

up in next segment.... Of course the focus is going to be on the stupid ass snowball crap. I sure the fuck hope everyone has grown up this time around

eta - nvm

[ionlyknowy]

is someone working on a youtube of this? Cause im really interested in this one :eek:

[Inkblots]

I know you had extremely limited time, Ron, but you gotta lay out specifics!!

I agree completely, but I suspect Ron will get the chance to do so in many more interviews to come. They aren't going to be able to ignore him this time!

[crhoades]

Discussing hate crimes on Hannity now. Hmmm. I think Hannity should turn to Paul's chapter on hate crimes in liberty defined.

[Immortal Technique]

is someone working on a youtube of this? Cause im really interested in this one :eek:

on its way, it takes a bit longer with it being an almost 15 minute vid

[ionlyknowy]

on its way, it takes a bit longer with it being an almost 15 minute vid

its people like you that allow for this revolution to take place. Tube on brotha!

[ghengis86]

on its way, it takes a bit longer with it being an almost 15 minute vid

sweet!

[Dorfsmith]

on its way, it takes a bit longer with it being an almost 15 minute vid

Thank you!

[ionlyknowy]

Also id like to say that it is pretty amazing seeing all of the join dates of the various posters around here. We have grown our camp by leaps and bounds over the past 4 years. This election cycle will be much different IMO. Much much different.

[Anti Federalist]

Waiting on the 'tube, but based on the responses, sounds like Ron worked his magic yet again, in semi-hostile environment.

Sometimes I neglect to say how proud I am to support this man.

[Fr3shjive]

Waiting on the 'tube, but based on the responses, sounds like Ron worked his magic yet again, in semi-hostile environment.

Sometimes I neglect to say how proud I am to support this man.

It was a lot less hostile than I thought it would be. Hannity was respectful and gave RP a chance to respond. I was really surprised by how much respect he got on Hannity and on The View.

[QueenB4Liberty]

Also id like to say that it is pretty amazing seeing all of the join dates of the various posters around here. We have grown our camp by leaps and bounds over the past 4 years. This election cycle will be much different IMO. Much much different.

:D Hell yes!!!

I was so excited watching this. I was pissed at Dick not even mentioning him and then having him be on right after, but I was quite pleased with all of the answers. I was especially worried when Hannity brought up the snowball incident, but I love the way Ron handled that! He's amazing! We are in it to win it now folks!!

[sailingaway]

Solid interview, but I was a bit disappointed with Ron's responses regarding how he'd bring the entitlement system down to size.

He really needs to start citing from his own essay about his transition plan (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul647.html).

He really needs to start laying out specifics, and repeat them over and over. Talk about how he wants to let young people opt out of social security. Maybe endorse Rand Paul's idea on how to balance Social Security by raising the retirement age and have means testing.

Talk about how he'd introduce price competition in healthcare to ease Medicare costs, beginning with ending the unconstitutional power the FDA has over the drug industry, as well as ending corporate subsidies.

I know you had extremely limited time, Ron, but you gotta lay out specifics!!

Yeah I think from Rand's softball interviews with Hannity Ron wasn't expecting to be attacked so soon so hard. But TPTB don't want him to get more traction. Too bad, so sad. I think it is a measure of Ron's growing influence that Hannity was at least polite as he threw the hard ball questions at Ron.

BUT Ron needs a stock, quick and effective response for that.

[tangent4ronpaul]

It was a good interview for Ron Paul supporters but I'm not sure how the Hannity watchers view it. I hope it converted a few but I'm not optimistic that it did.

- ML

They are not saying a lot. First post is the best:

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=2245331

He announced on Seans show that he'll be announcing tomorrow. For what sense it makes to announce your going to announce, thats what he did. And for what its worth although no-one would ever expect to hear it from me I actually think Uncle goofy has a chance to win the nomination this time around. I won't be voting for him in a primary, but gods know I'd vote for Jimmy ****ing Carter to get rid of the incompetent fool currently occupying the WH. So if he does win the nomination... thats as close to an endorsement as he's going to get from me. To go along with my vote.

"Uncle Goofy"????

[ionlyknowy]

oh and this time around im gonna have a lawyers salary to donate as well as a wife who is a nurse practitioner ;) I suspect others will have upped their financial status as well especially since many supporters were college students last time.

[stefank]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txPB980tBws&feature=feedu

[tangent4ronpaul]

Anyone else think it was brilliant for him to let the cat out of the bag about his announcement tomorrow? I was really pleased with the tone and the way he handled that interview. Hannity challenged him, but was more respectful than I was expecting.

Hannity didn't deserve it.

[BuddyRey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txPB980tBws&feature=feedu

Liked, favorited, and Tweeted!!!

[Aldanga]

Wow. Hannity is a douche. Ron looked really annoyed at him. Still, Ron did a good job.

[payme_rick]

Ugh, these neos and that fuckin' mosque! I think Ron needs to work on addressing that topic a little better... He did good with it tonight, but with a buzztopic like that it needs to be nailed down at every turn, because the likes of Hannity are good at turning it in their favor...

Not a slam, it's early and I think Ron did well overall and will get even better, but we need him to be great...

[Fredom101]

I simply don't like how Hannity interviews people. Especially smart people like RP. He does the rapidfire questions, which are meant to ambush the interviewee and have them say things that sound crazy. I like more interactive interviews, where the person asking questions is actually engaged in the conversation. RP did okay here, but the format is just awful. Hannity wanted to make RP look like he supported muslim terrorists, and I'll bet to a lot of the Fox viewing audience, that's what they came away with. "Ron Paul has some good ideas but if he were president we would have Shiria law in a matter of a couple of years!"

It's very sad to me that a guy like Hannity is so popular and can even have his own show. He reminds me of some guy in high school that I just couldn't stand! I see no appeal to the guy and I really question my fellow human beings who support his show.

[PreDeadMan]

Well without all of the silly neocon side commentary from INSANITY i thought Ron handled that pretty darn well :)

[Legend1104]

You know I listen to Gary Johnson and he is not that bad in answering questions. Rand Paul is better and getting better, but Ron Paul honestly answers these tough questions in the best fashion that I have seen out of all the mainstream statesmen we have. That is why we need him to be president.

[tangent4ronpaul]

"How would you tell people that social security and medicare no longer existed..."

How did Paul miss that??? - WOW!

btw: where do you get one of those multi-snowball launchers? I'm thinking of investing in a 12v freezer too.... He'll never expect it :D

[ForLibertyFight]

Good interview. Dr. Paul handled himself well and answered all the questions in a tactful way to make him look positive or at least neutral.

I really wish that Dr. Paul talks about how HE is going to solve the problem. He is able to identify and explain his position on different issues well but he lacks the TRANSITION, in my opinion, to talking about how HE is going to solve that problem as president.

It's great that Dr. Paul can point out and explain but in order to capture people's attention and votes, he needs to address how he will solve the problem.

[LisaNY]

There are 9/11 families who support the mosque yet Fox never mentions them. Hannity really needs to stop with this 'jihadist caliphate sharia' bullshit as it sounds silly and has nothing to do with the real problems we are facing. Ron should have asked Sean "are there people trying to impose sharia law on your life?"

[AuH20]

"How would you tell people that social security and medicare no longer existed..."

How did Paul miss that??? - WOW!

btw: where do you get one of those multi-snowball launchers? I'm thinking of investing in a 12v freezer too.... He'll never expect it :D

Dude, he's almost 80. Noggin isn't as quick as it once was.

[LisaNY]

Greta is creepy. Period

lol, my husband calls her greta van fuglystern

[Anti Federalist]

Hell, I didn't even see a snowball. (Me, I would have been throwing iceballs with rox)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5rJI5e0jBU

[tangent4ronpaul]

Dude, he's almost 80. Noggin isn't as quick as it once was.

Don't give the enemy ammo

He's usually very sharp and catches stuff like that.

[Romulus]

"You close the door on what makes America great!"

SLAM on Hannity!

[tangent4ronpaul]

too bad they didn't show the clip of when the snowballs were flying and Hannity was getting pelted....

[sailingaway]

Dude, he's almost 80. Noggin isn't as quick as it once was.

I don't see it like that at all. He has to answer one question and figure where Hannity is going with the next one. Young or old everyone has some they miss to focus on others. He had some spectacular lines. I do wish he had a couple of specific canned answers ready, though.

[AuH20]

Don't give the enemy ammo

He's usually very sharp and catches stuff like that.

I'm being truthful. Look at the 28 year old clip someone posted earlier. He was rattling off Austrian economic vernacular like a machine gun. Now that guy could win in this unfriendly environment. Can someone go get the DeLorean and go pick up the younger Ron from 1983?

[payme_rick]

There are 9/11 families who support the mosque yet Fox never mentions them. Hannity really needs to stop with this 'jihadist caliphate sharia' bullshit as it sounds silly and has nothing to do with the real problems we are facing. Ron should have asked Sean "are there people trying to impose sharia law on your life?"

And also that the man has a right to believe what he wants...

I think Ron did okay with the subject, and even said it was a private property issue, I just think he missed a chance to strike down the "thought crime" aspect of the whole mosque issue... It's not a crime to prefer Sharia Law...

[Eleventh Star]

I'm being truthful. Look at the 28 year old clip someone posted earlier. He was rattling off Austrian economic vernacular like a machine gun. Now that guy could win in this unfriendly environment. Can someone go get the DeLorean and go pick up the younger Ron from 1983?

It's too bad, you can really tell how much sharper he was at the time. But I still give the man respect for slogging away for nigh on 30 years without wavering. There's just no one else who can rest on that record. For a man pushing 80 he's kept a remarkable amount of that skill.

[heavenlyboy34]

Hell, I didn't even see a snowball. (Me, I would have been throwing iceballs with rox)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5rJI5e0jBU
iceballs? Is that a snowball with a layer of frozen water on the outside? /curious

[Anti Federalist]

iceballs? Is that a snowball with a layer of frozen water on the outside? /curious

LoL - An iceball is packed just the same way a snowball is, but with wet slush instead of damp powder snow.

That renders the missile roughly twice as dense as a "standard" snowball, keeping mind that snow to water is about a 12 to 1 ratio by volume, and it will stinnnnnng when it hits you.

When it gets really cold, the snow is so fine and dry it cannot be packed into a ball at all.

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Hannity is horrible. The fact that his show is one of the highest rated shows in cable tv is mind boggling. America doesn't stand a chance.

[Don Lapre]

Luv Sean getting pelted by snowballs while Paul supporters yell, "You're a great American, Hannity."

LOLOL

Hehehelarious!


But on a serious note - I wish Paul supporters would reign it in just a little bit.

We've already got a (pretty well deserved, imo) bad reputation as being a bit TOO enthusiastic in our support.

[emazur]

I don't know what interview some of you were watching, but Hannity did a fine job here. These were not rapid fire trick and trap questions (O'Donnell w/ Peter Schiff anyone?), Hannity didn't make Paul share the stage w/ anyone and gave him plenty of time to answer (if you doubt it, compare Hannity to other news hosts. Judge Nap for example is notoriously bad about rushing guests and trying to cut them off with "got it, got it"). Including the commercial breaks, Paul got more than a quarter of the airtime for the entire show. I'm no Hannity fan, but props to him for this interview.

[devil21]

Too bad Ron didn't mention that the biggest funder of the NYC mosque was a huge shareholder in News Corp/Fox News.

Interview was ok. Probably as good as can be expected from Hannity. I love how irked he continues to be about the snowball incident. Elites like him don't like when their little bubble world is burst by people in the real world.

[Kregisen]

I thought Ron did extremely well, especially since it was Hannity. A+

Only thoughts were:

1. He missed answering the part where hannity talked about Ron wanting to end medicare/social security....that's a half truth, he wants to end them down the road, but Hannity was purposely implying Ron would become president and immediately take all of the benefits away from seniors....nothing could be further from the truth.

2. He did well on the mosque issue, but if it was me, I would have ATTACKED Hannity on that. We CANNOT win this election if the average voter does not understand the concept of property rights! Ron could have DESTROYED Hannity there! Hannity kept saying "well he wants to bring sharia law to america, so we cant let him build whatever he wants on his property!". Ron just needs to say "it's not a crime to want sharia law in america, if it was, then the man would be arrested, we wouldn't be telling him what he can or can't build on his property. Also, the Constitution would not allow Sharia law so we have nothing to worry about. This is a private property issue and as a Christian, and you yourself as a Catholic Sean, if the government was telling us that a Christian or Catholic church couldn't be built there, we would both be going insane right now."

Boom. There is NO argument to that. Hannity would immediately change the topic. Ron needs to get on the offensive of some of these smaller issues like that and really fight for ground. He can't let Hannity make the viewers think that Ron holds extreme views on every issue. He has to debate some of these easy issues vigoriously and show the viewers that Hannity is the one with the crazy views.

Can I get an amen?

[Brett85]

"How would you tell people that social security and medicare no longer existed..."

How did Paul miss that??? - WOW!

How should he have answered that question?

[KramerDSP]

LoL - An iceball is packed just the same way a snowball is, but with wet slush instead of damp powder snow.

That renders the missile roughly twice as dense as a "standard" snowball, keeping mind that snow to water is about a 12 to 1 ratio by volume, and it will stinnnnnng when it hits you.

When it gets really cold, the snow is so fine and dry it cannot be packed into a ball at all.

Jimmy Johnson can attest to this. *Evil laugh*

[Brett85]

"He did well on the mosque issue, but if it was me, I would have ATTACKED Hannity on that. We CANNOT win this election if the average voter does not understand the concept of property rights!"

What if you just take the position that they have a Constitutional right to build the mosque there, but it just wouldn't be a good idea for them to do so? That's the position that Rand took, and I agree with him. You can support their right to build the mosque and still exercise your 1st amendment rights by speaking out against the idea.

[Kregisen]

"He did well on the mosque issue, but if it was me, I would have ATTACKED Hannity on that. We CANNOT win this election if the average voter does not understand the concept of property rights!"

What if you just take the position that they have a Constitutional right to build the mosque there, but it just wouldn't be a good idea for them to do so? That's the position that Rand took, and I agree with him. You can support their right to build the mosque and still exercise your 1st amendment rights by speaking out against the idea.

Umm....that is my position! You quoted my post!

[Brett85]

Umm....that is my position! You quoted my post!

So your position is that they had the legal right to build the mosque, but they should've chosen not to build it there?

[torchbearer]

"He did well on the mosque issue, but if it was me, I would have ATTACKED Hannity on that. We CANNOT win this election if the average voter does not understand the concept of property rights!"

What if you just take the position that they have a Constitutional right to build the mosque there, but it just wouldn't be a good idea for them to do so? That's the position that Rand took, and I agree with him. You can support their right to build the mosque and still exercise your 1st amendment rights by speaking out against the idea.

for starters the constitution doesn't grant rights, so there are no consitutional rights. i cringe everytime someone says that.

[PineGroveDave]

Luv Sean getting pelted by snowballs while Paul supporters yell, "You're a great American, Hannity."

LOLOL

Hehehelarious!


But on a serious note - I wish Paul supporters would reign it in just a little bit.

We've already got a (pretty well deserved, imo) bad reputation as being a bit TOO enthusiastic in our support.

Yep. Makes me, as a staunch RP supporter, want to distance myself from the "kiddies" who have no clue about how the real world operates. And "tough shit" to those of you who think this 51 year old self made man doesn't know what he's talking about. I've been around the block a few times. I support RP, I just don't run around cramming him down everybody's throat and getting in their faces. There's an old saying about attracting more flies with honey.

As a manager of many people, I manage my team by setting atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect. I like to say that "I bring my men" along with me as opposed to forcing them or telling them what to do...World of difference.

[Brett85]

for starters the constitution doesn't grant rights, so there are no consitutional rights. i cringe everytime someone says that.

Whatever. We have rights from God, and the Constitution was written to protect those rights.

[trey4sports]

Whatever. We have rights from God, and the Constitution was written to protect those rights.

That's pretty much what Torch is saying

[Brett85]

That's pretty much what Torch is saying

Yeah. I just didn't phrase it quite right the first time.

[Don Lapre]

As a manager of many people, I manage my team by setting atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect. I like to say that "I bring my men" along with me as opposed to forcing them or telling them what to do...World of difference.

Very wise.

Ron Paul wouldn't have gained the stature that he now enjoys (a legit presidential candidate) if he had conducted himself through the years the way some of his foolish supporters do.

Something to think about.

[freshjiva]

Yep. Makes me, as a staunch RP supporter, want to distance myself from the "kiddies" who have no clue about how the real world operates. And "tough shit" to those of you who think this 51 year old self made man doesn't know what he's talking about. I've been around the block a few times. I support RP, I just don't run around cramming him down everybody's throat and getting in their faces. There's an old saying about attracting more flies with honey.

As a manager of many people, I manage my team by setting atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect. I like to say that "I bring my men" along with me as opposed to forcing them or telling them what to do...World of difference.

+1000. I just wish I had more self-discipline as you do. Sometimes I can't help it -- I try and keep my cool and use a soft voice when talking with people about liberty, but sometimes the deeply ingrained Statist mindset sometimes gets the best of me.

[Pauls' Revere]

I cant wait for the offical "HOLD" Thread!

[Matt Collins]

I thought he did just fine. Think Ron is being coached a bit and it shows.Maybe he is following Rand's lead? :cool:

[Matt Collins]

It was a good interview for Ron Paul supporters but I'm not sure how the Hannity watchers view it. I hope it converted a few but I'm not optimistic that it did.



Here is one tea-o-con's reaction to Ron's appearance on Hannity they sent me in a private FB message:

AGREEING WITH 'THE ALLOWANCE OF SHARIA LAW IN AMERICA ' (AND THE MOSQUE AT 9/11) STATEMENT ON HANNITY WAS A COMPLETE AND ALWAYS BE A 'NO' FOR ME..THIS IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD..always


:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

[Matt Collins]

btw, this greta chick's eyebrows refuse to move. its kinda creepy.
She has had plastic surgery in the past. I think she had a cleft problem.


Greta is creepy. Period
I'll never forget. I was in a room with a news anchor (not going to say who) and they saw her on the screen and leaned over to me and said "that woman's so ugly she could stop a train".... I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. It was hilarious, the way he said it.

[ihsv]

Hell, I didn't even see a snowball. (Me, I would have been throwing iceballs with rox)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5rJI5e0jBU

Hannity better watch out. Those RonBots are getting ready for this election season :)

http://www.savingschronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Giant_snowball_Oxford.jpg

[Matt Collins]

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=2245331

He announced on Seans show that he'll be announcing tomorrow. For what sense it makes to announce your going to announce, thats what he did. And for what its worth although no-one would ever expect to hear it from me I actually think Uncle goofy has a chance to win the nomination this time around. I won't be voting for him in a primary, but gods know I'd vote for Jimmy ****ing Carter to get rid of the incompetent fool currently occupying the WH. So if he does win the nomination... thats as close to an endorsement as he's going to get from me. To go along with my vote. Looks like progress is being made. :D

[Matt Collins]

oh and this time around im gonna have a lawyers salary to donate as well as a wife who is a nurse practitioner ;) I suspect others will have upped their financial status as well especially since many supporters were college students last time.Not me, I'm MUCH worse than I was.

But I didn't know lawyers made money these days? :confused:

[AuH20]

Here is one tea-o-con's reaction to Ron's appearance on Hannity they sent me in a private FB message:



:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Muslims can be barbaric (see their bloody history in the Balkans) but you cannot outlaw them from the U.S. It sets up a dangerous precedent.

[Matt Collins]

for starters the constitution doesn't grant rights, so there are no consitutional rights. i cringe everytime someone says that.Ahhh... Mr. Badnarik strikes again. I like I like! :)

[texasbelle]

Thanks for posting the YouTube link. But seriously for the love of humanity will Sean Hannity please get over the snowball incident though?!?!?!! Overall I thought Dr Paul did very well. I am excited to be a part of this again!!!

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Here is one tea-o-con's reaction to Ron's appearance on Hannity they sent me in a private FB message:



:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Are these people really this stupid? Ron said nothing about "agreeing with the allowance of Sharia"


http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss303/crimage/gif/facepalm.gif

[freshjiva]

Are these people really this stupid?

Short answer: yes.

[Sola_Fide]

evictlibs2010
Honored Guest

Ron Paul's base= 911 truther punks/ Alex Jones freaks

....

[PineGroveDave]

+1000. I just wish I had more self-discipline as you do. Sometimes I can't help it -- I try and keep my cool and use a soft voice when talking with people about liberty, but sometimes the deeply ingrained Statist mindset sometimes gets the best of me.

Perhaps it comes with age. I live in what my wife and I like to call "The Bible Belt of California". I swear, in all the places she and I have lived, there are more churches per capita in the state than anywhere else. That being said, I am constantly bombarded with the neo-con agenda to the point of inducing regurgitation. When I have these folks (and I do) tell me that their Pastor told them how to vote, I simply ask questions and then offer my perspective with respect to constitutionality and the candidate that I feel will support my beliefs. Many times I'm met with a "Deer in the headlights" stare but there have been instances where I had folks reconsider their "blind stance". I planted these seeds 4 years ago when they were all popping boners for McCain and I told them what a mistake they were making. They're listening now...at least a good percentage of them are, and they're asking me questions that I will answer.

[torchbearer]

Ahhh... Mr. Badnarik strikes again. I like I like! :)

15 years of participating in libertarian debates. Badnarik went through the same ranks i did.

[heavenlyboy34]

LoL - An iceball is packed just the same way a snowball is, but with wet slush instead of damp powder snow.

That renders the missile roughly twice as dense as a "standard" snowball, keeping mind that snow to water is about a 12 to 1 ratio by volume, and it will stinnnnnng when it hits you.

When it gets really cold, the snow is so fine and dry it cannot be packed into a ball at all.
oic. I've never heard that sort of snowball called an iceball before. I called those "slushballs" when I played in the snow.:o:collins:

[Matt Collins]

Ron also seemed a bit tired.

[Matt Collins]

15 years of participating in libertarian debates. Badnarik went through the same ranks i did.Awesome. I learned from Badnarik in '06. Then Ron came on the scene.

[daviddee]

...

[Matt Collins]

I live in what my wife and I like to call "The Bible Belt of California". I swear, in all the places she and I have lived, there are more churches per capita in the state than anywhere else. Try coming to Nashville sometime. :cool:

[Kregisen]

So your position is that they had the legal right to build the mosque, but they should've chosen not to build it there?

Let's analyze this.

1. Legal right to build the mosque? Check.

2. Should they have? Millions of people got mad about it, so if their purpose was to gain more people to their branch of muslim faith, it's obvious it was not the right decision.


I'm not sure why you're acting shocked....we all read the constitution, why do you even have to ask for my views?

[JCLibertarian]

...

[anaconda]

After one of the debates in the 2007-2008 primaries I was listening to Hannity's radio show in my car the next day and Hannity said "Ron Paul sounded like an idiot." If anyone has a recording of this it might prove rather useful. Ron should have said "my supporters dislike you very much because you referred to me as an idiot. I don't condone their throwing snowballs, but it might explain their frustration. I would not call you an idiot, Sean..."

[anaconda]

I was hoping that Ron would simply say that the Sharia Imam had a right to free speech and that he also had to abide by U.S. law. Ron lets himself get on the defensive so easily.

[Texan4Life]

Yeah I was kinda hoping he would have said something along the lines of the 1st amendment is for unpopular speech.

Either way RP held his own and Hannity is sill a giant douche.

"but, but, if we don't stomp on their rights they are gonna overthrow our way of life!" LMAO what an idiot.

[anaconda]

I just located this. So someone else corroborates my memory regarding Hannity calling Ron Paul an "idiot." I believe the exact words were "Ron Paul sounded like an idiot."

http://dailypaul.com/24828/hannity-calls-ron-paul-an-idiot-on-the-radio

[Eric21ND]

Good stuff. Thank God I dont have to watch this any more. He kept going on about this guy that wants Sharia law in America. So what!!!!! That guy has no power unless you give it to him!!!
It's like giving that Fred Phelps idiot air time. There's always going to be dipshits out there Hannity, is this news worthy? No.

[BuddyRey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txPB980tBws&feature=feedu

Could use some help in the comments section! I think the KOSers and Little Green Footstools are engaging in a bit of psych warfare here.

[WilliamC]

Solid interview, but I was a bit disappointed with Ron's responses regarding how he'd bring the entitlement system down to size.

He really needs to start citing from his own essay about his transition plan (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul647.html).

He really needs to start laying out specifics, and repeat them over and over. Talk about how he wants to let young people opt out of social security. Maybe endorse Rand Paul's idea on how to balance Social Security by raising the retirement age and have means testing.

Talk about how he'd introduce price competition in healthcare to ease Medicare costs, beginning with ending the unconstitutional power the FDA has over the drug industry, as well as ending corporate subsidies.

I know you had extremely limited time, Ron, but you gotta lay out specifics!!

This is worth repeating.

Ron does well speaking extemporaneously but for most TV/radio interviews he must develop some focused, specific, and relatively easy to state positions and repeat them over and over again. Rand seems much better at this and it's why he comes across better on the idiot box.

Ron Paul is very smart and an expert on many topics but to appeal to the masses he has to dumb down his explanations, and for that he should get help.

JMHO of course.

[Anti Federalist]

Here is one tea-o-con's reaction to Ron's appearance on Hannity they sent me in a private FB message:


AGREEING WITH 'THE ALLOWANCE OF SHARIA LAW IN AMERICA ' (AND THE MOSQUE AT 9/11) STATEMENT ON HANNITY WAS A COMPLETE AND ALWAYS BE A 'NO' FOR ME..THIS IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD..always

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

LoL at the same god.

[payme_rick]

"but, but, if we don't stomp on their rights they are gonna overthrow our way of life!" LMAO what an idiot.

You know, after all of the arguments with neos etc... on the mosque topic I've never used that point? I've done decent actually, but I could do so much better...

"So in order to "protect the constitution", we violate a man's property rights and freedom to speak freely and hold opinions we may not agree with? that in itself goes against the constitution!"

A lot of the people I argue with on this topic lean toward the tea party (not the real one, of course), and I have had a hint of success arguing that "you speak out against our government quite regularly, should they violate your property rights because you disagree with the way they run things?"

As far as the possibility of sharia actually being implemented, I once had success (mild) comparing muslims/sharia to the KKK/whatever-it-is-they-believe... I pointed out that the KKK would like a different way of life/government in the US and that they have been firmly planted in the US for over a century... they haven't gotten it because our constitution mixed with its citizens will not allow it (I understand this comparison may be flawed, but it worked on an average "wave the flag" repub somewhat... We will, however, allow socialism, so round up all of the socialists ;)

[Brett85]

2. Should they have? Millions of people got mad about it, so if their purpose was to gain more people to their branch of muslim faith, it's obvious it was not the right decision.

But isn't that basically what Hannity was saying? Or do you think he was saying that the government should prevent the mosque from being built?

[specsaregood]

But isn't that basically what Hannity was saying? Or do you think he was saying that the government should prevent the mosque from being built?

Hannity is clearly of the mind that the goverment shouldn't allow the mosque to be built. We have to destroy our freedoms to prevent sharia!

[Travlyr]

I didn't see that at all. I thought Sean was very respectful to Ron.

Sean worked very hard to marginalize Ron Paul, but he failed. ;)
Ron Paul gets an A+, and I hope he doesn't ever give Hannity another chance.

The questions Hannity ask were dumbass questions very much unlike what good Republicans will be asked.


Lets remember that "Hannity" used to be: "Hannity and Colmes". It was decided that the audience of H&C had an IQ of 90, dislike informed debate, pro-war, etc.

With that said, this interview's goal was to instantly taint Ron Paul with his viewers.

Condensed interview:

1. How quickly could you eliminate Social Security, Medicaid, and throw the old people in the street?

2. How quickly would you "cut and run" and allow the terrorists to win?
2a. How quickly would you allow Sharia Law?

3. We just saw the video of your crazed supporters. Only crazy believe the shit you spout.

4. I am a conservative, my audience are conservatives, and you are not. Why do you hate conservatives?

The above is all Hannity's viewers need to hear. He takes care of the neo-cons, the old people, the low IQ people, and the gung-ho "Fuck dem sand *******" crowd.

Hannity will then follow it up on his radio show with "concerned call ins".

Caller 1: "Sean, he wants Sharia law"
Sean: "I know."

Caller 2: "He wants to put me in the street. I need my entitlements"
Sean: "I know"

Caller 3: "What does he want to do about Israel!!"
Sean: "I did not get a chance to ask, but it is clear he wants to push Israel into the sea"

Caller 4: "Sean, his supporters are scary"
Sean: "I know, they threw snowballs at me. They are "cooky".

Caller 5: "Sean I am a conservative. I hate most everyone, I love war, and I am a repressed homosexual. Why does Ron Paul want us to be ****?"
Sean: "I don't know. I hear he hates football too"


The question is how much of the Republican base accounts for the above views. A lot.

If you notice, Rand is a little more polished on this stuff. He knows what he needs to say to get around their traps. "Yes, I love Israel" "I think we could better spend our military money" "I do not want to end entitlements... Just reform them"

[anaconda]

You know, after all of the arguments with neos etc... on the mosque topic I've never used that point? I've done decent actually, but I could do so much better...

"So in order to "protect the constitution", we violate a man's property rights and freedom to speak freely and hold opinions we may not agree with? that in itself goes against the constitution!"

A lot of the people I argue with on this topic lean toward the tea party (not the real one, of course), and I have had a hint of success arguing that "you speak out against our government quite regularly, should they violate your property rights because you disagree with the way they run things?"

As far as the possibility of sharia actually being implemented, I once had success (mild) comparing muslims/sharia to the KKK/whatever-it-is-they-believe... I pointed out that the KKK would like a different way of life/government in the US and that they have been firmly planted in the US for over a century... they haven't gotten it because our constitution mixed with its citizens will not allow it (I understand this comparison may be flawed, but it worked on an average "wave the flag" repub somewhat... We will, however, allow socialism, so round up all of the socialists ;)

Very excellent approaches.

[anaconda]

Ron should not go on Hannity's program. Hannity does not show him respect. Hannity doesn't say to other candidates things like "Here's where we'll agree to disagree.." like Ron needs Hannity's blessing to have a platform.

[Kregisen]

But isn't that basically what Hannity was saying? Or do you think he was saying that the government should prevent the mosque from being built?

lol absolutely not. The only people who think the mosque issue is an issue are the ones who think the government should step in and make it an issue.

It's not an issue. They own the property and they want to build a cultural center/mosque/what have you.

If it was a Christian church and the government stepped in, every Republican would be going batshit insane. It's islamophobia, like Hannity saying "We shouldnt let them build there because the leader says he wants Sharia law in america", or the dumbasses who say "muslims always build over land they conquered, STOP THEM" etc. This muslim group clearly stated they are against terrorists and the muslims who committed 9/11 were wrong.

How about you, TC? Do you believe the government should step in and infringe on their private property rights? You seem to love defending Hannity here.