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dbill27
04-23-2011, 12:28 PM
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/glennbeck-mikehuckabee/2011/04/22/id/393807?s=al&promo_code=C242-1


There are "really tough issues that real conservatives will have with Mike Huckabee," Beck said on his show. "If, sir, you are this thin-skinned about your politics, it might be best for you to stay on the sidelines" and not run, he said.

Matt Collins
04-23-2011, 12:55 PM
Yep....

Here is what Beck is talking about:








YouTube - Huckabee Begs For New Taxes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLOC4krZI4)
YouTube - Mike Huckabee Flip Flops On Amnesty For Illegals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyxWxCVQCQY)
YouTube - Mike Huckabee Wants Nationwide Smoking Ban (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-bVMJ-jr2k)
YouTube - Huckabee Happily Sells Citizenship to Illegals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwOuDxRfL3U)
YouTube - Mike Huckabee Amnesty for Illegals In Iowa Primary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSyERgoOZx0)
YouTube - Huckabee Supports Amnesty, Tuition Breaks For Illegals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3rrOVPuyXU)
YouTube - Mike Huckabee supports AMNESTY for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypdd0AKJ_Qs)

moostraks
04-23-2011, 01:05 PM
Like the issues that same so called conservatives had last time with him? He has a certain loyal following which ignores logic and has decided to make the Republican party their stomping ground. The more Beck talks the more he sounds like he is still the msm shill instead of shoving it in Murdoch's face. Huckabee had his time in the sun but acted like a horses rear with his run off at the mouth before his brain engages attitude. I think this is more a very public shaming for someone who has a gigantic ego and is not going to get anointing he got last time.

COpatriot
04-23-2011, 01:09 PM
I think Beck is just throwing live grenades into a crowded room on his way out at FOX.

fade
04-23-2011, 01:10 PM
The people that stick with Huckabee without really looking at his positions are the Christians. I live in Kansas, smack dab in the middle of the bible belt - and every single Huckabee supporter I talked to supported him because he broadcast his Christianity.

AuH20
04-23-2011, 01:11 PM
Beck has officially taken it upon himself to be the republican gatekeeper after witnessing the charade that went on in 2008. Two rinos were left when the dust cleared, only to be mauled by the boy king in the general. This is going to bode well for Ron if he can correct his mistakes and maintain message discipline. I suspect that other progressive Romney is going to be the next target. Beck did a hitpiece on his atrocious healthcare program a year or two ago. So far Beck has hit at Kristol and Huckabee. I suspect Romney and Limbaugh are next on the slate. It's like shooting ducks in a barrel.

Matt Collins
04-23-2011, 01:15 PM
I think Beck is just throwing live grenades into a crowded room on his way out at FOX.
GOOD!

The Judge is a friend of Beck's.

If Beck is attacking Huckabee that makes our job much easier. Hopefully it will convince Huckabee NOT to run!

COpatriot
04-23-2011, 01:20 PM
GOOD!

The Judge is a friend of Beck's.

If Beck is attacking Huckabee that makes our job much easier. Hopefully it will convince Huckabee NOT to run!

I agree with whoever it was yesterday that said that Beck could be a useful idiot here in doing our dirty work for us. I just don't know if we can trust him to not trash RP in a similar fashion. He'll probably endorse Bachmann or Palin. I doubt those two can win though.

AuH20
04-23-2011, 01:23 PM
I agree with whoever it was yesterday that said that Beck could be a useful idiot here in doing our dirty work for us. I just don't know if we can trust him to not trash RP in a similar fashion. He'll probably endorse Bachmann or Palin. I doubt those two can win though.

Beck isn't a useful idiot. He knows actually what he's doing, raising serious questions about the RINO candidates.

Ron doesn't really possess any progressive characteristics. He should be fine. And Beck has referred to him glowingly as a modern day founding father. Beck is not going to attack Ron. He likes Ron and his son, especially if you go back to one of their radio interviews a year ago.

http://libertymaven.com/2009/09/30/ron-paul-and-glenn-beck-discuss-americas-future/7519/

Cutlerzzz
04-23-2011, 01:35 PM
Yep....

Here is what Beck is talking about:








YouTube - Huckabee Begs For New Taxes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLOC4krZI4)
YouTube - Mike Huckabee Flip Flops On Amnesty For Illegals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyxWxCVQCQY)
YouTube - Mike Huckabee Wants Nationwide Smoking Ban (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-bVMJ-jr2k)
YouTube - Huckabee Happily Sells Citizenship to Illegals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwOuDxRfL3U)
YouTube - Mike Huckabee Amnesty for Illegals In Iowa Primary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSyERgoOZx0)
YouTube - Huckabee Supports Amnesty, Tuition Breaks For Illegals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3rrOVPuyXU)
YouTube - Mike Huckabee supports AMNESTY for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypdd0AKJ_Qs)

Here is another good one.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/12/15/huckabee_flip-flops_on_cap-and-trade_108262.html

TroySmith
04-23-2011, 01:42 PM
Might be seeing a paradigm shift in the republican party with Beck serving as a major player in it. It's good to see.

Of course we will have to hear all the "honey honey poison", "look what he did to medina", crap etc on this thread now too lol.

FreedomProsperityPeace
04-23-2011, 01:45 PM
Unless Huckabee's numbers drop off somehow, I fully expect him to run. He's just getting too good of a reception (unfortunately) to pass up another shot at it this year.

Magsec
04-23-2011, 01:51 PM
Beck wants Romney to get the nomination, so of course he wouldn't want Romney's biggest competitor to enter the race.

AuH20
04-23-2011, 01:54 PM
Beck wants Romney to get the nomination, so of course he wouldn't want Romney's biggest competitor to enter the race.

Beck already listed his top 3. Allen West, Michelle Bachmann and Ron Paul. Romney is a socialist as far as he's concerned (see clip below.. 46 second mark especially)

http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002651/


Which is why is why I said when Mitt Romney was running for president I don’t want anyone who even flirts with socialism…his defense for an obvious socialist act is: ‘Well Mitt Romney, he’s a Republican and he did it too.’

Did anybody else’s mom, I remember mine probably in 1969 saying, you know, things like: ‘If Mitt Romney would jump off a cliff, would you jump off too?’ Which wouldn’t have made any sense in 1969 because I wouldn’t have known who Mitt Romney was, but you get the point.

It seems to me that you can’t disprove your socialism with someone else’s socialism. Can you?

acptulsa
04-23-2011, 02:03 PM
Unless Huckabee's numbers drop off somehow, I fully expect him to run. He's just getting too good of a reception (unfortunately) to pass up another shot at it this year.

Well, my take is that if the Huckster has any brains whatsoever he'll keep out of it. He's not going to win the White House, and running for it would mostly give him an opportunity to be exposed as the warmongering, theocratic socialist he really is. Which wouldn't help his Faux ratings one bit.

If he doesn't quit while he's sitting pretty he's an idiot. Which, I realize, doesn't guarantee he'll quit while he's sitting pretty.

Aratus
04-23-2011, 02:06 PM
karl rove is envious of mr. trump's hair.
glen beck is being silent about karl rove???
i think i prefer huckabee and trump over rove...

Aratus
04-23-2011, 02:08 PM
these things that i am saying as i hope
either Ron or Rand runs this tyme around!

FreedomProsperityPeace
04-23-2011, 02:13 PM
He's not going to win the White House, and running for it would mostly give him an opportunity to be exposed as the warmongering, theocratic socialist he really is. Which wouldn't help his Faux ratings one bit.The thing is, I don't think people who watch his show are paying attention. He has the show now after 2008 (when all these issues were brought up), after all. ;)

AuH20
04-23-2011, 02:22 PM
Huckabee is disqualified for simply hanging around Richard Haas IMHO:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_BucPcJrHI&feature=related

IDefendThePlatform
04-23-2011, 02:32 PM
Does anyone else seriously sense a Glenn beck endorsement of Ron Paul coming? He names Ron his 3rd favorite in the field with only two sure early dropouts ahead of him? He also said we should pull all of our troops out ofthe middle east "to regroup". To me it seems like he has already come around to the idea that Ron Paul is right on basically everything, he is just slowly positioning himself that way so he doesn't have to come out and admit he was wrong before. I think Ann coulter performed something similar by saying she supports Ron for 2012 because the war will be over. The wars obviously won't be over, but she wants to support Ron without contradicting all of her earlier pro war rants.

Not that I'm complaining. Welcome to them both! Hopefully more people will make these slow conversions.

COpatriot
04-23-2011, 02:35 PM
Does anyone else seriously sense a Glenn beck endorsement of Ron Paul coming? He names Ron his 3rd favorite in the field with only two sure early dropouts ahead of him? He also said we should pull all of our troops out ofthe middle east "to regroup". To me it seems like he has already come around to the idea that Ron Paul is right on basically everything, he is just slowly positioning himself that way so he doesn't have to come out and admit he was wrong before. I think Ann coulter performed something similar by saying she supports Ron for 2012 because the war will be over. The wars obviously won't be over, but she wants to support Ron without contradicting all of her earlier pro war rants.

Not that I'm complaining. Welcome to them both! Hopefully more people will make these slow conversions.

I am slowly working on converting my hard-right parents and I am making good progress.

Ray
04-23-2011, 06:01 PM
Glenn is pretty unpredictable now. Last week I was listening to his radio show on my way to class, and someone called in talking about Ron Paul, and Glenn said that listening to Ron talk about monetary policy was almost erotic :O

libertybrewcity
04-23-2011, 06:06 PM
He knows he can't win the general election so he won't run. It would be a waste of time for him, and probably take a beating on his wealth too. He made a name for himself in 2008 and that's all he needed. He ended up with a show on Fox News, probably speaking engagements, and who knows what else that will yield him millions per year. I can't see him running at all.

AuH20
04-23-2011, 06:41 PM
More Huckabee dirt. I love this stuff:



"Bipolar politics has always been Huckabee's strongest suit. No one is better at saying one thing, doing the opposite and getting credit for both, of talking small government and actually promoting big government." - Ernest Dumas, the Arkansas Times

"Have people never heard of a housewarming? ... Can I afford the towels? Yes. That's not the point. They're excited that we have a new house and they wanted to do something nice for us." -- Janet Huckabee on her "bridal" registries

"There was a dog that apparently had mange and was absolutely, I guess, emaciated." -- Huckabee, discussing charges that his son David tortured and killed the dog

"Without question, [Huckabee] was making a conscious attempt to keep the state police from investigating his son [for the dog killing]." -- I. C. Smith, the former FBI chief in Little Rock

"There's a lot of support for a tax at the wholesale level for tobacco, and that's fine with me; I will very happily sign that...Others have suggested a surcharge on the income tax; that's acceptable; I'm fine with that. Others have suggested, perhaps, a sales tax; that's fine. Yet others have suggested a hybrid that will collect some monies from any one or a combination of those various ideas, and if that's the plan that the House and Senate agree upon, then you will have nothing but my profound thanks." - Huckabee, to the Arkansas Legislature,

On Mr. Huckabee's watch, state spending increased by 65.3 percent, three times the rate of inflation, and the number of state government workers increased 20 percent during his tenure. -The Washington Times, December 11, 2007

Mike Huckabee pardoned many violent criminals, including a Washington State Cop-Killer (Maurice Clemons).. Clemmons was serving a 60 year sentence when Huckabee granted clemency.

Mike Huckabee also pardoned/commuted the sentence of convicted rapists, including Wayne Dumond, who raped and murdered two more women after Huckabee helped spring him from prison.

Mike Huckabee squelched an investigation of his son, who was fired from his employment at a Boy Scouts camp for torturing and killing a stray dog.

Mike Huckabee has personally enriched himself by abusing his office; in other words, Mike Huckabee is a corrupt son of a gun:

He was investigated 16 times and cited five times by the Arkansas Ethics Commission for violating ethics rules. Two of those citations were for cash that the governor or his wife accepted but did not report. Huckabee's gifts peaked at $112,000 in 1999, including $23,000 worth of clothing; over half of that was given by one businessman who Huckabee appointed to a state board.

Huckabee made off with tens of thousands of dollars worth of state property, including furniture an audit confirmed was missing when Huckabee moved out of the Governor's mansion. Huckabee's wife claimed the audit was wrong, and the furniture must be there somewhere. The taxpayers paid to replace it, of course.

In 1999, Huckabee was sued for abuse of state funds, for using state funds for panty hose, barbecue, a dog house, dry cleaning, boat fuel, and alterations to his clothes. Huckabee settled out of court, agreeing not to do it again.

Huckabee used state police airplanes to shuttle himself and his family around the state scores of times each year, as well as trips to other states with early presidential primaries.

In 1994, Huckabee created a 'non-profit organization' called 'Action America,' which, in 2 1/2 years, paid Huckabee over $61,000 for giving speeches at events. This made it easier for donors to funnel unreported funds to the Governor.

Huckabee and his wife set up bridal registries at Dillards and Target for over $7,000 in housewares, and $1,000 in gift cards. State ethics laws prohibited the Huckabees from receiving gifts of more than $100 while he was doing the job of Governor of the state of Arkansas. But as you can imagine, there was an exception for wedding gifts. He and his wife had been married for three decades at this point.

He raised taxes more than Bill Clinton. Yes, THAT Bill Clinton. The former President and former Governor of Arkansas.

Mike Huckabee is ANYTHING BUT a Conservative.

HOLLYWOOD
04-23-2011, 06:43 PM
Don't forget the "Other Half" controlling Huckabee... Frank Gaffney, Oh the club controlling the National Security and Foreign Policy is a Cozy little omerta klan. Man, Staffing the WAR ROOM on these hacks calling themselves Conservative or Republicans, a complete farce. Still wondering about all that deleted data(including backups) by the Huckster and his staff before he left Little Rock.

Just last week by Gaffney: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/197773/two-and-half-cheers-joe-lieberman/frank-j-gaffney-jr
Two and a Half Cheers for Joe Lieberman (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/197773/two-and-half-cheers-joe-lieberman/frank-j-gaffney-jr)

April 11, 2010 1:23 P.M. (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/197773/two-and-half-cheers-joe-lieberman/frank-j-gaffney-jr)
By Frank J. Gaffney Jr. (http://www.nationalreview.com/author/197772)



Huckabee is disqualified for simply hanging around Richard Haas IMHO:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_BucPcJrHI&feature=related

Justinjj1
04-23-2011, 07:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8M2JBIoqo


Glenn Beck can go fuck himself. I can't believe fellow RPF'ers still fall for his shit.

Agorism
04-23-2011, 07:25 PM
It's not like Huckabee is any worse than the rest of the fools in the race.

Not sure if it will help Ron or not.

FrankRep
04-23-2011, 07:29 PM
Glenn Beck can go fuck himself. I can't believe fellow RPF'ers still fall for his shit.


Some Glenn Beck highlights



G. Edward Griffin on Glenn Beck Show - Topic: The Federal Reserve (http://vimeo.com/21524346)


http://www.vimeo.com/21524346



Glenn Beck Recapitulates The John Birch Society
http://www.jbs.org/component/content/article/1009-commentary/6372-glenn-beck-recapitulates-the-john-birch-society

Glenn Beck Discovers Carroll Quigley! - False Paradigm of Political Parties
http://www.jbs.org/component/content/article/1009-commentary/6441-beck-uses-quigley-quote-about-political-parties

Glenn Beck Discovers 'Philip Dru: Administrator' by Edward Mandell House
http://www.jbs.org/component/content/article/1009-commentary/6405-glenn-beck-discovers-philip-dru-administrator

Glenn Beck Zeros In on CFR's Role in Media Bias
http://www.jbs.org/component/content/article/1009-commentary/6412-glenn-beck-zeroes-in-on-cfrs-role-in-press-bias

Glenn Beck: History Vindicated Joe McCarthy
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/37-history/3876-glenn-beck-history-vindicated-joe-mccarthy

Beck's Founders' Fridays Attempts to Undo Revisionists' Damage
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/37-history/3678-becks-founders-fridays-attempts-to-undo-revisionists-damage

freedoms-light
04-23-2011, 07:33 PM
Didn't he cover his tracks by destroying data on hard drives in the Governors office before leaving?

FrankRep
04-23-2011, 07:38 PM
Didn't he cover his tracks by destroying data on hard drives in the Governors office before leaving?

Yes.

Mike Huckabee's Gubernatorial Records 'Missing'
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?286319-Mike-Huckabee-s-Gubernatorial-Records-Missing

IDefendThePlatform
04-23-2011, 07:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8M2JBIoqo


Glenn Beck can go fuck himself. I can't believe fellow RPF'ers still fall for his shit.


Dude that was a long time ago. I think based on his more recent interviews that he is pretty much coming around to RP.

And I don't particularly like him, but he has a decent fan following, so I'm sure he could be an asset to the campaign this time around.

HOLLYWOOD
04-23-2011, 08:09 PM
Didn't he cover his tracks by destroying data on hard drives in the Governors office before leaving?


Not only deletion and DOD wipes of the drives, the backup tapes were missing... and it's blatantly obvious Huckabee and team took them... because only certain time frame backups were missing. You figure the government morons would destroy it all and make it look like an accident, no the .gov morons only steal the backup tapes for a particular period.

It also obvious Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes have filed separation from Glen Beck... no longer will Beck have to be puppeteer by the masters for his paycheck. Let's see how rouge old cynical Chucko will go before Ailes and Murdoch pull the plug.

rolle
04-23-2011, 08:20 PM
It will be interesting to see how much beck continues to become more libertarian as he cuts ties to fox and goes rogue. I believe he will because I trust judge nap has influenced him. Also, whenever beck appears on freedom watch, he sounds much more libertarian than on his radio or tv show.

So I'll at least give him the benefit of the doubt and give him a chance.

Deborah K
04-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Huck will not run.

sparebulb
04-23-2011, 08:33 PM
Late one winter evening, a man came across a snake on the path. The snake asked, "Will you please help me, sir? I am cold, hungry and will surely die if left alone." The man replied, "But you are a snake, and you will surely bite me!" The snake replied, "Please, I am desperate, and I promise not to bite you."

So the man thought about it, and decided to take the snake home. The man warmed the snake up by the fire and prepared some food for the snake. After they enjoyed a meal together, the snake suddenly bit the man. The man asked, "Why did you bite me? I saved your life and showed you much generosity!" The snake simply replied, "You knew I was a snake when you picked me up."

Now, substitute the snake for Glenn Beck and trust that he will not bite.

Deborah K
04-23-2011, 08:36 PM
Late one winter evening, a man came across a snake on the path. The snake asked, "Will you please help me, sir? I am cold, hungry and will surely die if left alone." The man replied, "But you are a snake, and you will surely bite me!" The snake replied, "Please, I am desperate, and I promise not to bite you."

So the man thought about it, and decided to take the snake home. The man warmed the snake up by the fire and prepared some food for the snake. After they enjoyed a meal together, the snake suddenly bit the man. The man asked, "Why did you bite me? I saved your life and showed you much generosity!" The snake simply replied, "You knew I was a snake when you picked me up."

Now, substitute the snake for Glenn Beck and trust that he will not bite.

Meaning what? That Beck is out to destroy the country? What, in your opinion, is his objective as a 'snake'?

outspoken
04-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Beck has tremendous influence over the neo con citizens who don't really understand history or politics. He was one of the first big names in the media to even mention libertarian as a philosophy and he himself has moved towards more Ron Paul thinking over the last 24 months. A lot of people have shifted their views since the 2008 election and Beck with his large audience has played a part in that. Don't underestimate the value and power of Beck to the movement towards restoring the Constitution.

sparebulb
04-23-2011, 08:51 PM
Meaning what? That Beck is out to destroy the country? What, in your opinion, is his objective as a 'snake'?

Beck has bitten RP before and will again. He is running interference for his buddy Romney.

In my opinion, a Beck endorsement (would never, ever happen) would hurt RP far more than it would help.

FrankRep
04-23-2011, 08:52 PM
Beck has tremendous influence over the neo con citizens who don't really understand history or politics.

Glenn Beck is at war with the Neocons.


Glenn Beck to (Neocon) Bill Kristol: People Have Listened to Clowns Like You Too Long (http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/04/14/christians-fleeing-egypt-since-mubaraks-ouster/)


Glenn Beck
Apr 14, 2011


“People like Bill Kristol, the old style Republican guard, it’s over, Bill. It is over. You go ahead and do all your little games in Washington with all of your little buddies to hold on to your fiefdom, but it’s over. People have listened to clowns like you too long. Your day has passed.”

Deborah K
04-23-2011, 08:53 PM
Beck has bitten RP before and will again. He is running interference for his buddy Romney.

In my opinion, a Beck endorsement (would never, ever happen) would hurt RP far more than it would help.

When was the last time you paid any attention to what Beck has been saying?

Shane Harris
04-23-2011, 08:54 PM
beck support would hurt in the general election possibly but definitely not in the primaries.

Deborah K
04-23-2011, 08:55 PM
I'd be willing to bet $100 that Beck will not endorse Romney - not in the primary.

AuH20
04-23-2011, 08:56 PM
I'd be willing to bet $100 that Beck will not endorse Romney - not in the primary.

That's pretty well established. Beck doesn't see eye to eye with Romney.

Deborah K
04-23-2011, 08:59 PM
That's pretty well established. Beck doesn't see eye to eye with Romney.

Tell it to Sparebulb. Wait.....don't say anything....maybe he'll take the bet. :D

AuH20
04-23-2011, 09:02 PM
Haven't been on Beck's site in awhile but he's stripped all signs of Fox.

http://www.glennbeck.com/

sparebulb
04-23-2011, 09:16 PM
When was the last time you paid any attention to what Beck has been saying?


It doesn't matter what he's been saying lately, because at the end of the day, Beck will steer his sheep back into the neocon fold. As previously mentioned on this board...."The devil will tell you a thousand truths to get you to believe one lie".

It is great if some people are turning on to RP as a result of Beck's newly found love for "liberty". Don't think for one second that is his intent. Romney, Palin, Bachmann, or a neocon-to-be-named-later is his plan.

It is really too bad that the link has been removed to the 2008 interview with Beck and his fluffer, Pat Gray, where Beck let it loose what he really thought of RP and RP's supporters. Take my word for it, Beck hates you, liberty, and RP. Hate like that doesn't go away.

AuH20
04-23-2011, 09:18 PM
It doesn't matter what he's been saying lately, because at the end of the day, Beck will steer his sheep back into the neocon fold. As previously mentioned on this board...."The devil will tell you a thousand truths to get you to believe one lie".

It is great if some people are turning on to RP as a result of Beck's newly found love for "liberty". Don't think for one second that is his intent. Romney, Palin, Bachmann, or a neocon-to-be-named-later is his plan.

It is really too bad that the link has been removed to the 2008 interview with Beck and his fluffer, Pat Gray, where Beck let it loose what he really thought of RP and RP's supporters. Take my word for it, Beck hates you, liberty, and RP. Hate like that doesn't go away.

Don't forget the Judge. He hates the judge and vice-versa.

sparebulb
04-23-2011, 09:20 PM
Don't forget the Judge. He hates the judge and vice-versa.

?????????

Deborah K
04-23-2011, 09:21 PM
It doesn't matter what he's been saying lately, because at the end of the day, Beck will steer his sheep back into the neocon fold. As previously mentioned on this board...."The devil will tell you a thousand truths to get you to believe one lie".

It is great if some people are turning on to RP as a result of Beck's newly found love for "liberty". Don't think for one second that is his intent. Romney, Palin, Bachmann, or a neocon-to-be-named-later is his plan.

It is really too bad that the link has been removed to the 2008 interview with Beck and his fluffer, Pat Gray, where Beck let it loose what he really thought of RP and RP's supporters. Take my word for it, Beck hates you, liberty, and RP. Hate like that doesn't go away.

I'm well aware of his ignorant remarks about RP and our movement. I'm also aware that he gave RP a solid hour on his show after his stupid proclamation that we were terrorists. He's been slowly evolving his views ever since. I don't trust him completely, but I don't trust anyone completely. He is a useful tool and he's been a gateway drug for many in the Tea Party movement. Like it or not, them's the facts.

sparebulb
04-23-2011, 09:28 PM
I'm well aware of his ignorant remarks about RP and our movement. I'm also aware that he gave RP a solid hour on his show after his stupid proclamation that we were terrorists. He's been slowly evolving his views ever since. I don't trust him completely, but I don't trust anyone completely. He is a useful tool and he's been a gateway drug for many in the Tea Party movement. Like it or not, them's the facts.

A personality cult host must "evolve" in the wake of plummeting viewership and fleeing advertisers. Like it or not, that is the fact.

Deborah K
04-23-2011, 09:50 PM
A personality cult host must "evolve" in the wake of plummeting viewership and fleeing advertisers. Like it or not, that is the fact.

Not entirely accurate. He has evolved since he interviewed RP for an hour on CNN. He subsequently left and went to Fox. His viewership only recently plummeted. And his advertisers fled under pressure from groups organized by George Soros, his arch enemy. I contend that his 20 + million viewers are more knowledgable about what RP has been saying than they ever were before.

t0rnado
04-23-2011, 09:53 PM
http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/04/22/mike-huckabee-picks-an-unnecessary-fight-with-glenn-loses-badly/

Huckabee's political career is over. Glenn Beck completely destroyed him on his radio show yesterday. He even brought up the cop killer pardon.

cindy25
04-23-2011, 10:01 PM
GOOD!

The Judge is a friend of Beck's.

If Beck is attacking Huckabee that makes our job much easier. Hopefully it will convince Huckabee NOT to run!

Huckabee should run; the neo-con vote has to be split into as many pieces as possible. Huck votes would only go elsewhere, probably to Bachmann

AuH20
04-23-2011, 10:06 PM
http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/04/22/mike-huckabee-picks-an-unnecessary-fight-with-glenn-loses-badly/

Huckabee's political career is over. Glenn Beck completely destroyed him on his radio show yesterday. He even brought up the cop killer pardon.

I noticed Ron's book ad on Beck's site. It's flash animation on the right hand side.

Deborah K
04-23-2011, 10:09 PM
Huckabee should run; the neo-con vote has to be split into as many pieces as possible. Huck votes would only go elsewhere, probably to Bachmann

He is a poser. After RP schooled him during a debate, he started spouting "...the Constitution....the Constitution...." That could work against us.

Sola_Fide
04-23-2011, 10:16 PM
http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/04/22/mike-huckabee-picks-an-unnecessary-fight-with-glenn-loses-badly/

Huckabee's political career is over. Glenn Beck completely destroyed him on his radio show yesterday. He even brought up the cop killer pardon.

Hope so. These tea party people who call themselves Christians better stop voting for progressives.

Kregisen
04-23-2011, 10:48 PM
Huckabee should run; the neo-con vote has to be split into as many pieces as possible. Huck votes would only go elsewhere, probably to Bachmann

That's what we all thought until the recent polls that said 33% of Huck's voters pick Ron Paul as #2....

We don't want him to run anymore.

Legend1104
04-23-2011, 10:50 PM
Beck has enough power left with many republican americans that if he were to back Ron Paul, then I think he could benefit greatly.

Kregisen
04-23-2011, 10:52 PM
Beck has enough power left with many republican americans that if he were to back Ron Paul, then I think he could benefit greatly.

Don't a couple MILLION people regularly listen to his radio show?

Christianlibertarian
04-24-2011, 05:24 AM
As we become more and more successful in changing the national mood we should expect some influential people to be converted as well. When that happens we need to welcome them with open arms even if they were once enemies. People like Beck, Coulter, etc have more to lose than regular citizens and their 'conversion' may be more slow and less direct. I am thankful for the judge who seems to have more patience with Beck than I ever would. Obviously Beck still has a ways to go (Alan West??) Bit we need to nave patience with him. Obviously if he does have some nefarious anti-liberty motive then heMAY

Christianlibertarian
04-24-2011, 05:27 AM
As we become more and more successful in changing the national mood we should expect some influential people to be converted as well. When that happens we need to welcome them with open arms even if they were once enemies. People like Beck, Coulter, etc have more to lose than regular citizens and their 'conversion' may be more slow and less direct. I am thankful for the judge who seems to have more patience with Beck than I ever would. Obviously Beck still has a ways to go (Alan West??) Bit we need to nave patience with him. Obviously if he does have some nefarious anti-liberty motive then he MAY never change his mind but even that is not impossible. The real test will be who he endorses in the primaries.

A Son of Liberty
04-24-2011, 05:53 AM
The last time I listened to Beck, he was prattling about how Iran is chock-full-o' Mahdi worshipping, child sacrificing zealots bent on destroying Israel, and about how "we" mustn't "abandon" Israel.

Maybe it is a case of "you can't turn an ocean-liner on a dime", but this sort of fearmongering, war-drum beating is DANGEROUS with the platform he has. I find it revolting.

Matt Collins
04-26-2011, 09:23 PM
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/04/04/huckabees_gubernatorial_records_missing.html

daviddee
04-26-2011, 10:38 PM
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The Dark Knight
04-26-2011, 10:44 PM
If Huckabee stays out of the race, We should win Iowa.

daviddee
04-26-2011, 10:50 PM
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Matt Collins
05-16-2011, 09:46 AM
Glad to hear it.