LVPD Beat Man For Filiming Arrest [VIDEO]

[daviddee]

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[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

This is fucking disgusting.

[Brian4Liberty]

Police training and hiring in this country needs to change.

[Chester Copperpot]

wtf

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

He did say "Nope" when asked if he lived there but it shouldnt matter. He still shouldn't have to turn off his camera.

[daviddee]

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[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

That was his only mistake, but I suspect the ass beating was coming either way. The cop went right from question mode (minimal) to ass beating (maximal)

Listen to the entire cop dialog... especially this:

"You're not in charge here, buddy. You hear me?"

Colling mocks Crooks' labored breathing.

"Oh yeah, buddy. Hey, when you don't do what I ask you to do, then you're in a world of hurt. Then you're in a world of hurt. Aren't ya? Huh?"

That got me heated right there. I just got flash backs to when me and my friends go pulled over for being BWD (black while driving) and the cop had has chained up on the hood of his car, then I told him Im going to make sure to remember his badge number....he went fucking ape shit. Slamming me on the car, cursing me out, telling me how he runs these streets and does what the F he wants. It was amazing. I can lie, I was shook. Funny thing is I did absolutely nothing. Wasn't speeding, wasn't driving reckless, just too many "suspicious looking individuals" in one car.

[daviddee]

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[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

White America is starting to wake up to a fact Black America has known for a very long time.

Oh no doubt, anybody who challenges there authority will be attacked, no matter the color of the skin. When trying to talk to some of my black friends about RP, I always bring up his stance on police brutality, the police state, the war on drugs, surveillance, etc.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

So, we have "Collings," Unknown Officer," and "Crook(s)?" Who subtitled this? Is it cop porn or something?

[Expatriate]

Apparently this cop shot a 15 year old boy named Tanner Chamberlain in the head in 2009, and his mother says it was murder. The police say that Tanner held a knife to her throat though.

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/25216196/detail.html
http://www.lvrj.com/news/School-officials-identify-boy-fatally-shot-by-police-62885022.html

[daviddee]

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[Anti Federalist]

That got me heated right there. I just got flash backs to when me and my friends go pulled over for being BWD (black while driving) and the cop had has chained up on the hood of his car, then I told him Im going to make sure to remember his badge number....he went fucking ape shit. Slamming me on the car, cursing me out, telling me how he runs these streets and does what the F he wants. It was amazing. I can lie, I was shook. Funny thing is I did absolutely nothing. Wasn't speeding, wasn't driving reckless, just too many "suspicious looking individuals" in one car.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KgBT8kIRgBo/TH8SF81ZUyI/AAAAAAAAGyk/cISpTguZd0U/s1600/Want+Some+of+this.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

White America is starting to wake up to a fact Black America has known for a very long time.

No shit, that ^^^

[Brian4Liberty]

As an aside, it is taken for granted that child abuse often leads to more child abuse in the next generation. Some people who are in law enforcement were previously abused by law enforcement. The cycle continues.

[libertybrewcity]

I saw this linked to Drudge...I was really disgusted. It makes me so angry to think that there will be no negative consequences for that cop. Apparently he has a record of abuse. :(

[daviddee]

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[AGRP]

It looks so bad that it looks staged (of course its not).

[S.Shorland]

There is a video on youtube where they threaten to tazer a man if he moves.He's on his front with his hands behind him waiting to be handcuffed and the policeman pulls his wrists together and suddenly let go.Whereupon his muscles relax into a more normal posture and that is the cue for the tazer.It's obvious that they would think up methods to legitimise their actions if it is necessary.They then went on to pepper spray his aging mother because she got out of the car to protest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmByfTKKUV4

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

There is a video on youtube where they threaten to tazer a man if he moves.He's on his front with his hands behind him waiting to be handcuffed and the policeman pulls his wrists together and suddenly let go.Whereupon his muscles relax into a more normal posture and that is the cue for the tazer.It's obvious that they would think up methods to legitimise their actions if it is necessary.They then went on to pepper spray his aging mother because she got out of the car to protest.

My friend works for the NOPD, they dont officially teach these tactics, but the lower level sergeants teach them how to always make it look like the cops life is threatened.

[COpatriot]

He'll probably skate. They always do. The law doesn't apply to them. They're allowed to do whatever they want to you, but if you return the favor, they'll imprison you for decades.

[PineGroveDave]

Allow me to share a real world experience that happened about 2 years ago on my property...

My stepson was living with my wife and I at the time and he had a girlfriend. His girlfriend had left her father (he was a complete a total asshole and I felt she was justified to leave the prick). She came to the only "safe haven" she knew...our home. We took her in. 2 day s later while I was at work, my wife called in a panic. "The cops are here and they want in and told me they're going to arrest Cary!" I told her to not let them in and they were to wait outside until I got there (I work 5 minutes away).

I drove up, parked the car, got out and immediately confronted two armed police officers. I screamed at the top of my lungs. "Unless you have a warrant, you are trespassing and I'm ordering off this property!" At this point I was about 4 feet away from them and they replied "Who are you?". My retort was "I'm the property owner and unless you have a warrant, you are violating my rights, you are trespassing and I'm ordering you off my property!". They stepped off the property onto the street and then said that they didn't like my attitude. I then replied "You haven't even seen my attitude...yet!"

Yes I took a chance. Yes my wife was shitting her pants. She told me that she thought I was going to be smacked down (and she was probably right)...but what was I to do? Let these bastard thugs onto my property and take my boy away?

No...I'm not a sheep. One day it may cost me a beat down (I've been ther before though)...but if that's the price I have to pay for standing up for my rights...so be it.

[aGameOfThrones]

He kinda had it coming, the police did say to turn the camera off.

/S

If ever a situation deserves This: Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306.

[Anti Federalist]

He kinda had it coming, the police did say to turn the camera off.

/S

If ever a situation deserves This: Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306.

The survivors of Waco were acquitted of charges related to the killing, shooting, or injuring ATF/FBI agents.

[aGameOfThrones]

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

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[PineGroveDave]

Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306.

I like this.

[aGameOfThrones]

I like this.

Then you'll like these:


“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

[daviddee]

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[daviddee]

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[aGameOfThrones]

aGameOfThrones - Do you have any case law on the Federal Level??

“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”

[daviddee]

Dupe post... sorry

[daviddee]

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[BamaAla]

White America is starting to wake up to a fact Black America has known for a very long time.

I certainly hope so. We (middle class white America) turned our collective head at the abuses the poor and minorities suffered at the hands of police for far too long. Unfortunately, the majority of people I engage are still badge worshiping sheep when it comes to this issue: "they've got a tough/dangerous job," "They're protecting us from them," etc. No, they are fucking criminal sociopaths!

[Philhelm]

That got me heated right there. I just got flash backs to when me and my friends go pulled over for being BWD (black while driving) and the cop had has chained up on the hood of his car, then I told him Im going to make sure to remember his badge number....he went fucking ape shit. Slamming me on the car, cursing me out, telling me how he runs these streets and does what the F he wants. It was amazing. I can lie, I was shook. Funny thing is I did absolutely nothing. Wasn't speeding, wasn't driving reckless, just too many "suspicious looking individuals" in one car.

There's no shame in being shaken when a man with a gun, with the full force of an oppressive government behind him, is intimidating you. In some ways, the humiliation and dishonor that Americans must endure angers me more than the outright physical abuse and murder.

[Anti Federalist]

They had the chance to take them all out... When I watch the video, to this day, I cringe knowing what would happen next and that they let the ATF/FBI retreat.

This country could possibly be in a much different place if they did in fact take them all out... and had their day in a court to defend themselves.

Yep, they had them on the run after the initial confrontation and could have picked every one of them off as they tried to retreat, had they so desired.

[Philhelm]

The survivors of Waco were acquitted of charges related to the killing, shooting, or injuring ATF/FBI agents.

As negative as we can get on this forum, it's fair to remember that there are still some threads of justice remaining.

[Philhelm]

They had the chance to take them all out... When I watch the video, to this day, I cringe knowing what would happen next and that they let the ATF/FBI retreat.

This country could possibly be in a much different place if they did in fact take them all out... and had their day in a court to defend themselves.

Regular people will show mercy; unfortunately their mercy was rewarded with slaughter by the state. Let that be a lesson.

[Philhelm]

Not to derail the thread, but The Terminator is one of my favorite movies.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkreOzecZ7A&feature=related

[Anti Federalist]

As negative as we can get on this forum, it's fair to remember that there are still some threads of justice remaining.

Keep in mind that was almost 20 years ago now.

The government has been hard at work rigging the system and jury selection process to make sure that is highly unlikely to happen again, should it ever come up.

It's to the point now where a "jury" will send a 2 year old to death row if that's what the judge, cops and prosecutors say should happen.

[Philhelm]

Keep in mind that was almost 20 years ago now.

The government has been hard at work rigging the system and jury selection process to make sure that is highly unlikely to happen again, should it ever come up.

It's to the point now where a "jury" will send a 2 year old to death row if that's what the judge, cops and prosecutors say should happen.

That's certainly true, but there are still some loose threads of liberty remaining in the U.S., even if they are few and far between. As bad as the U.S. is becoming, and is, I still think that at the present this is the last bastion of achieving potential liberty. The one thing that we have going for us is that our very nation was forged from the fires of political dissent. While words such as freedom, justice, and liberty have been misused to promote tyranny, perhaps at the eleventh hour those terms can once again be used as they were truly intended. These ideals are embedded in our culture, and can once again manifest themselves.

[Brian4Liberty]

Maybe the children of law enforcement.


I have met LEOs who told stories of being harassed or having the crap beat out of them by LEOs when they were young. Different people have different reactions. Some people say, "hey, I want to do that too!".

[Ray]

Video has been removed, anyone have a mirror?

[Expatriate]

Video has been removed, anyone have a mirror?

http://www.lvrj.com/news/exclusive-police-beating-of-las-vegas-man-caught-on-tape-120509439.html

[aGameOfThrones]

“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306.

Then we got:


Our courts, however, have uniformly accepted that this common law rule is outmoded in today‟s modern society. See Fields v. State, 178 Ind. App. 350, 355, 382 N.E.2d 972, 975 (1978) (holding that a private citizen may not use force or resist a peaceful arrest by one he knows or has good reason to believe is an authorized officer performing his duties, regardless of whether the arrest is legal or illegal)


See? the courts in Indiana here agree that part of the police duties are supposed to be Illegal ones. But then I would quote "John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529"

[daviddee]

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[AGRP]

Interesting. Wonder why it was removed. Hopefully, there's 1,000,000 copies of it floating around.

[Anti Federalist]

Interesting. Wonder why it was removed.

3 cops at your door, telling you that you had better take that video down, or be in a world of hurt.

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsR44NLu5f0

[Reason]

Why did he originally tell the LEO that he did NOT live there and then later claim that he DID live there...?

When filming cops it's important to be very careful what you do and don't say...

He should have said, "this is my property, do not come onto my property without a warrant" following up with some " I don't consent to any further questioning, I don't consent to any searches etc etc etc"

[AGRP]

Why did he originally tell the LEO that he did NOT live there and then later claim that he DID live there...?

When filming cops it's important to be very careful what you do and don't say...

He should have said, "this is my property, do not come onto my property without a warrant" following up with some " I don't consent to any further questioning, I don't consent to any searches etc etc etc"

Living or not living there is moot point for what they did to him.

He could have been a guest. Guests are not trespassers.

[Reason]

Living or not living there is moot point for what they did to him.

He could have been a guest. Guests are not trespassers.

True, but I look at these incidents from the logic of what will be the most effective in keeping yourself from being killed by costumed thugs while still accomplishing the citizen oversight...

I faced off with my local PD last year with much success.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?262164

[ivflight]

Why did he originally tell the LEO that he did NOT live there and then later claim that he DID live there...?

When filming cops it's important to be very careful what you do and don't say...

He should have said, "this is my property, do not come onto my property without a warrant" following up with some " I don't consent to any further questioning, I don't consent to any searches etc etc etc"

I was scratching my head over this. It looks like he was filming something going on across the street. When the cop asked if here lived there maybe he thought the cop was referring to the house that the police were investigating - across the street. So he said 'nope'. Then later the filmer was saying that this was his property, referring to the house/land behind/beneath him. Just a guess, but it makes sense.

[Anti Federalist]

I was scratching my head over this. It looks like he was filming something going on across the street. When the cop asked if here lived there maybe he thought the cop was referring to the house that the police were investigating - across the street. So he said 'nope'. Then later the filmer was saying that this was his property, referring to the house/land behind/beneath him. Just a guess, but it makes sense.

Makes sense to me.