gls
04-19-2011, 12:42 PM
Another great article from a NH newspaper. I especially like the quote from the Democratic legislator near the end... *gasp* they have principles that they actually abide by!!
Full story at link
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20110417-NEWS-104170326
There are roughly 12 members of the Legislature who came here as part of a movement to transform New Hampshire into a Free State. While their official numbers are small, their impact has been undeniable.
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Freshman legislator Rep. Andrew Manuse, R-Derry, moved here in 2007 as part of the Free State Project. He said there are a dozen Free Staters in the Legislature, though he would not name them all as some prefer to remain anonymous, he said.
"Once you move to New Hampshire you're not really a Free Stater anymore," he said. Manuse said he is flattered if people think the Free State Project has had a huge impact on the Legislature, but added they are simply part of a larger, liberty-minded Republican Party.
It is clear the Free Staters have significant influence. Manuse is a founder of the Natural Rights Council, which promotes the inalienable rights identified in Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution. Free Staters were also involved in forming the N.H. Liberty Alliance, which financially supports "pro-liberty" candidates and scores legislators on how "liberty-minded" they are and publishes results on the alliance Web site.
A post on a Yahoo! group for the Free State Project purportedly written by Tim Condon, an early member of the Free State Project, outlines the extent of the group's influence. While only about 900 members have moved to New Hampshire, he wrote, House Speaker Bill O'Brien, R-Mont Vernon, and Jack Kimball, state GOP chairman, could not have been elected to their posts without support of Free Staters in the Republican Party.
"Yes, we've got a Democrat governor. We've also got veto-proof Republican majorities in the state House, the state Senate and the state Executive Council," he wrote. "They all believe in the N.H. State GOP platform, which is pretty damn good. The Democrat governor has become almost irrelevant. In 2012 we'll have a Republican governor, in touch with and supported by Republican Free Staters from all over."
Condon, of Grafton, did not return a call seeking comment.
Free Staters have sponsored a bevy of bills this session to cut taxes, loosen regulations and put more emphasis on personal responsibility than on government control.
Speaker O'Brien has said New Hampshire needs more Free Staters and told Seacoast Sunday the Free Staters are doing good things for the state. He said they are hard-working representatives who have influence because their peers see how much time and effort they put into the job.
"If you look at some of the efforts of these representatives, they're just trying to make government better," he said.
But to those on other points of the political spectrum, Free State ideals come off as extreme. Some fear they want to dismantle government, legalize drugs, destroy public education and even form a state militia and secede from the union. The Free State Project Web site states it is not a secessionist movement, but adds nonviolent secessionists are welcome to participate and work toward that goal with other like-minded activists. The site says the project is for all pro-liberty activists, including agorists, anarcho-capitalists, classical liberals, constitutionalists, libertarians, voluntaryists and anyone else who agrees the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty and property.
"There seems to be a number of them that are totally out of control," said veteran state Rep. Lee Quandt, R-Exeter, who added "old guard Republicans" fear the party will "implode" due to bickering and loss of civility. "New Hampshire is not a screwball state," he said. "We're fiscally conservative, but we're very proud of what we have. We're very proud of trying to keep government as small as possible" without dismantling it.
"Their basic premise," said freshman state Rep. Tim Copeland, R-Stratham, "is to not have any government at all. That's what I'm getting from them. Some of it's scary. I don't understand the rationale of it."
From 2000 to 2002, Quandt co-chaired the House Republican Alliance, a group committed to ensuring bills are consistent with the state and U.S. constitutions and embody traditional GOP values. But he said he will not be affiliated with it much longer due to the "fringe and extremists." "They're not ... understanding we have to have government and we have to fund government," he said. "With this new group it's hard to get a handle on where they're coming from."
However, Free Staters say they identify with New Hampshire's Republican Party, which recognizes individual liberty, personal responsibility, free enterprise, low taxes and limited government.
"The Republican Party platform in New Hampshire represents the same ideals that the founding fathers brought," Manuse said. "The Free State Project recognized that in New Hampshire. Now that a bunch of us are here and involved in the process, it shouldn't be a surprise that we're supporting the same platform that's always been here."
The Republican Party platform for 2010-11 was adopted Sept. 25, 2010. "They wrote it," Quandt said.
Free Stater Rep. Dan McGuire, R-Epsom, co-chairs the HRA. He said the only areas of conflict between libertarians and moderate Republicans are where moderates "don't want to follow their own principles."
That's not to say civility has eroded or that they "bully" the moderates to get their way, he said. "We have very high expectations for ourselves in terms of what we should be able to accomplish and whether we can meet our goals. A lot of party activists would think this is the term to get these big things done and if they see certain members obstructing them, that would be upsetting."
Rep. Donna Schlachman, D-Exeter, said she has found a "lack of open-mindedness" when dealing with Free Staters. "They are measuring everything only by one yardstick. They have very knee-jerk reactions because their goal is less government."
Some, like Quandt, fear Republicans will lose many seats in 2012 due to a backlash against some of the more radical votes in the House this session. However, Free Stater Rep. Seth Cohn, R-Canterbury, said, "We embraced what New Hampshire stood for, which is personal responsibility and low taxes ... This is the traditional New Hampshire Republican coming back in."
Full story at link
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20110417-NEWS-104170326
There are roughly 12 members of the Legislature who came here as part of a movement to transform New Hampshire into a Free State. While their official numbers are small, their impact has been undeniable.
[SNIP]
Freshman legislator Rep. Andrew Manuse, R-Derry, moved here in 2007 as part of the Free State Project. He said there are a dozen Free Staters in the Legislature, though he would not name them all as some prefer to remain anonymous, he said.
"Once you move to New Hampshire you're not really a Free Stater anymore," he said. Manuse said he is flattered if people think the Free State Project has had a huge impact on the Legislature, but added they are simply part of a larger, liberty-minded Republican Party.
It is clear the Free Staters have significant influence. Manuse is a founder of the Natural Rights Council, which promotes the inalienable rights identified in Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution. Free Staters were also involved in forming the N.H. Liberty Alliance, which financially supports "pro-liberty" candidates and scores legislators on how "liberty-minded" they are and publishes results on the alliance Web site.
A post on a Yahoo! group for the Free State Project purportedly written by Tim Condon, an early member of the Free State Project, outlines the extent of the group's influence. While only about 900 members have moved to New Hampshire, he wrote, House Speaker Bill O'Brien, R-Mont Vernon, and Jack Kimball, state GOP chairman, could not have been elected to their posts without support of Free Staters in the Republican Party.
"Yes, we've got a Democrat governor. We've also got veto-proof Republican majorities in the state House, the state Senate and the state Executive Council," he wrote. "They all believe in the N.H. State GOP platform, which is pretty damn good. The Democrat governor has become almost irrelevant. In 2012 we'll have a Republican governor, in touch with and supported by Republican Free Staters from all over."
Condon, of Grafton, did not return a call seeking comment.
Free Staters have sponsored a bevy of bills this session to cut taxes, loosen regulations and put more emphasis on personal responsibility than on government control.
Speaker O'Brien has said New Hampshire needs more Free Staters and told Seacoast Sunday the Free Staters are doing good things for the state. He said they are hard-working representatives who have influence because their peers see how much time and effort they put into the job.
"If you look at some of the efforts of these representatives, they're just trying to make government better," he said.
But to those on other points of the political spectrum, Free State ideals come off as extreme. Some fear they want to dismantle government, legalize drugs, destroy public education and even form a state militia and secede from the union. The Free State Project Web site states it is not a secessionist movement, but adds nonviolent secessionists are welcome to participate and work toward that goal with other like-minded activists. The site says the project is for all pro-liberty activists, including agorists, anarcho-capitalists, classical liberals, constitutionalists, libertarians, voluntaryists and anyone else who agrees the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty and property.
"There seems to be a number of them that are totally out of control," said veteran state Rep. Lee Quandt, R-Exeter, who added "old guard Republicans" fear the party will "implode" due to bickering and loss of civility. "New Hampshire is not a screwball state," he said. "We're fiscally conservative, but we're very proud of what we have. We're very proud of trying to keep government as small as possible" without dismantling it.
"Their basic premise," said freshman state Rep. Tim Copeland, R-Stratham, "is to not have any government at all. That's what I'm getting from them. Some of it's scary. I don't understand the rationale of it."
From 2000 to 2002, Quandt co-chaired the House Republican Alliance, a group committed to ensuring bills are consistent with the state and U.S. constitutions and embody traditional GOP values. But he said he will not be affiliated with it much longer due to the "fringe and extremists." "They're not ... understanding we have to have government and we have to fund government," he said. "With this new group it's hard to get a handle on where they're coming from."
However, Free Staters say they identify with New Hampshire's Republican Party, which recognizes individual liberty, personal responsibility, free enterprise, low taxes and limited government.
"The Republican Party platform in New Hampshire represents the same ideals that the founding fathers brought," Manuse said. "The Free State Project recognized that in New Hampshire. Now that a bunch of us are here and involved in the process, it shouldn't be a surprise that we're supporting the same platform that's always been here."
The Republican Party platform for 2010-11 was adopted Sept. 25, 2010. "They wrote it," Quandt said.
Free Stater Rep. Dan McGuire, R-Epsom, co-chairs the HRA. He said the only areas of conflict between libertarians and moderate Republicans are where moderates "don't want to follow their own principles."
That's not to say civility has eroded or that they "bully" the moderates to get their way, he said. "We have very high expectations for ourselves in terms of what we should be able to accomplish and whether we can meet our goals. A lot of party activists would think this is the term to get these big things done and if they see certain members obstructing them, that would be upsetting."
Rep. Donna Schlachman, D-Exeter, said she has found a "lack of open-mindedness" when dealing with Free Staters. "They are measuring everything only by one yardstick. They have very knee-jerk reactions because their goal is less government."
Some, like Quandt, fear Republicans will lose many seats in 2012 due to a backlash against some of the more radical votes in the House this session. However, Free Stater Rep. Seth Cohn, R-Canterbury, said, "We embraced what New Hampshire stood for, which is personal responsibility and low taxes ... This is the traditional New Hampshire Republican coming back in."