Caution graphic vids and photos: Whose wars management is worse, Bush's or Obama's?

[doodle]

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Looking at conduct of recent US freedom wars, whose wars management is worse in your view, Bush's or Obama's?

Couple of examples of war conduct under Bush's command:

This shock Iraq shooting video posted today by an esteemed member :


Iraq detention camp shooting video link (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?287368-VIDEO-US-Troops-firing-on-Iraqi-Detainees&p=3204875&viewfull=1#post3204875)

Abu Ghraib abuse photos (http://antiwar.com/news/?articleid=8560)



Couple of examples of war conduct under Obama's command:



Drone attacks killings (http://www.opednews.com/populum/print_friendly.php?ok=y&p=Air-War-Turns-Middle-East-by-Sherwood-Ross-110408-935.html&c=a)


Afghan kill team's trophy photos (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/photos/the-kill-team-photos-20110327)

[doodle]

It's bit uneven comparison of Bush's 8 years to Obama's 2. It should be very tough to beat Bush's worse accomplishments but considering the hypocrisy aspect, Obama seems to mange come just as close if not beat Bush at being the worst manager of things under his command.


Monday, Apr 11, 2011 09:01 ET

How the U.S. kills civilians in Afghanistan

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/11/drone_killing_civilians




Obama: U.S. Troops in Afghanistan Must Do More Than Kill Civilians


LINK (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293187,00.html)

US drones killed 123 civilians, three al-Qaeda men in January
Feb 1, 2010 ... The rapid increase in the US drone attacks in the Pakistani tribal areas bordering Afghanistan can be gauged from the fact that only .

LINK (www.infowars.com/us-drones-killed-123-civilians-three-al-qaeda-men-in-january/ -)

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They hate us because we have freedoms.

Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tEsWRXV_BM


Since 9/11 supposedly gave us the free pass to wage wars forever, this may help understand concepts of reciprocal blowbacks:

Reportedly, some of the 9/11 hijackers had visited this memorial site before 9/11.



Amiriyah shelter bombing

The Amiriyah shelter bombing[1] or Amiriyah shelter massacre[2] was an aerial attack that killed more than 408 civilians[3] on February 13, 1991 during the Gulf War, when an air-raid shelter ("Public Shelter No. 25"), also referred to as the Al Firdos C3 bunker by the U.S. military, in the Amiriyah neighborhood of Baghdad, Iraq was destroyed by the USAF with two laser-guided "smart bombs".[4]

According to U.S. government sources,[which?] the attack was based on signals and human intelligence reports suggesting the bunker was a military command site. The shelter was used in the Iran–Iraq War and the Persian Gulf War by hundreds of civilians.

Bombing

At 4:30 am the morning of 13 February, two F-117 stealth fighter/bombers each dropped a 2,000 pound GBU-27 laser-guided bomb on the shelter. The first cut through ten feet of reinforced concrete before a time-delayed fuse exploded. Minutes later the second bomb followed the path cut by the first bomb.[6] People staying in the upper level were incinerated by heat, while boiling water from the shelter's water tank killed those below.[7]

Reactions

A number of foreign governments responded to the mass killing at Amiriyah with mourning, outrage, and calls for investigations. Jordan declared three days of mourning.[11] Algerian and Sudanese governing parties condemned a "paroxysm of terror and barbarism" and a "hideous, bloody massacre" respectively.[11] Jordan and Spain called for an international inquiry into the bombing, and Spain urged the US to move its attacks away from Iraq itself, and concentrate instead on occupied Kuwait.[11]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiriyah_shelter_bombing#cite_note-BBC-11



Some 9/11 victims families had visited the memorial before Iraq war start:


9-11 FAMILIES IN IRAQ Visit bombed shelter on 6-day peace mission

Thursday, January 9th 2003, 7:35AM

As U.S. troops massed in the region, relatives of victims of the Sept. 11 attacks visited a Baghdad shelter bombed during the Gulf War and sang songs of peace with Iraqi children yesterday.

Olsen was one of four victims' relatives, including New Yorker Colleen Kelly, who sat on the steps of the wrecked al-Amiriyah shelter, where Iraq says 403 civilians - including 52 children - burned to death Feb. 13, 1991.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2003/01/09/2003-01-09_9-11_families_in_iraq__visit.html

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Ralph Nader: Impeach 'War Criminal' Obama

http://www.newser.com/story/114620/barack-obama-is-a-war-criminal-ralph-nader-says.html

Question is, people who are calling Obama a war criminal also called Bush the same?