Ron Paul is the only candidate offering more than rhetoric in cali fires

[njandrewg]

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[TechnoGuyRob]

Ron Paul is the only candidate offering more than rhetoric in anything.

;-)

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Portion of the campaign contributions going to victims? wow.. I bet you that won't make any news.

[RP4ME]

ummmm I m not sure how feel about that - that money is to get him elected - it is my money....I think he should give his own personal money before camapign donations ...:confused: Im sure its will great for marketing but im not a fan of this

[njandrewg]

ummmm I m not sure how feel about that - that money is to get him elected - it is my money....I think he should give his own personal money before camapign donations ...:confused: Im sure its will great for marketing but im not a fan of this
this is only a portion fo the proceeds from hsi california fund raising that he'll be doing later this week

[RP4ME]

this is only a portion fo the proceeds from hsi california fund raising that he'll be doing later this week

i SEE BUT STILL its kind of odd to me.......I apprecite his generoisty but its with our money not his

[Zack]

ummmm I m not sure how feel about that - that money is to get him elected - it is my money....I think he should give his own personal money before camapign donations ...:confused: Im sure its will great for marketing but im not a fan of this

I believe the money is only coming from donations given to attend that specific event, so it wouldn't be your money, unless you are attending, but then you would know ahead of time and be able to not attend and donate another way if you wanted.

[njandrewg]

i SEE BUT STILL its kind of odd to me.......I apprecite his generoisty but its with our money not his
a) the fundraising events are in cali, so those people won't mind that the portion of their $$$ goes to help their fellow californias
b) if it gets media attention, he'll get a ton more cash from cali residents who'll see that he is the only candidate who cares for their state
c) its good PR

[reduen]

I thinkk as long as Dr. Paul tells those who are donating that this is what he intends to do in advance, this is a great gesture. :)

I would not be for it otherwise..

[American]

I believe in Ron Paul, if this is his decision then I believe in it as well. I am not one to second guess Dr. Paul.

[DjLoTi]

He's a nice man, and if he wants to help some of the CA victims, then that's fine w/me.

[RP4ME]

I believe the money is only coming from donations given to attend that specific event, so it wouldn't be your money, unless you are attending, but then you would know ahead of time and be able to not attend and donate another way if you wanted.

I meant my money in a generic sense, my money, yoru money etc.....with out specifics its hard to really commnet but unless people know ahead where its going and are on board with it prior to giving then I woudlnt be comfy with it. I see nothing wrong with it IF one knows ahead...but if not I dont agree

[RP4ME]

a) the fundraising events are in cali, so those people won't mind that the portion of their $$$ goes to help their fellow californias
b) if it gets media attention, he'll get a ton more cash from cali residents who'll see that he is the only candidate who cares for their state
c) its good PR

Agreed I get the PR benis but thats not what RP is all about......

If Hillary did that you woudl call it gratuitous....

[Sematary]

i SEE BUT STILL its kind of odd to me.......I apprecite his generoisty but its with our money not his

People are going in knowing that he is doing this so in essence, they are consenting to allowing him to use a portion of the funds for this. If you feel that strongly about it though, I would contact the campaign and tell them that you don't want a portion of YOUR funds going to this cause. But, if you think of it this way, it *should* get him some press, which is what the campaign funds are for in the first place so it's all good. :D

[njandrewg]

and just to reiterate...those people know ahead of time that a portion of that donation is being donated to red cross

[RP4ME]

I believe in Ron Paul, if this is his decision then I believe in it as well. I am not one to second guess Dr. Paul.

Agreed he is a great guy but he has flaws liek the rest of us...and I dont follow anyone blindly not even Paul...I learned taht lesson in the last election
Paul doesnt even want us to feel taht way

[RP4ME]

and just to reiterate...those people know ahead of time that a portion of that donation is being donated to red cross

thats cool...then Im all for it

[KewlRonduderules]

I think it is a great idea!!! Are you kidding if that gets on the news, people will have no choice but to eat it up!

[moonbat]

How do we even know this is Ron Paul's decision? Maybe the organizors of the fundraiser are behind this and decided to raise money for two good causes at once. Just a thought...

[jaumen]

i SEE BUT STILL its kind of odd to me.......I apprecite his generoisty but its with our money not his

The money that will be used has not yet been raised. Unless you attend the Hollywood Hills event, none of your money is going to be donated. That is specifically what it is coming from, and the people attending know in advance.

[Sparx]

I meant my money in a generic sense, my money, yoru money etc.....with out specifics its hard to really commnet but unless people know ahead where its going and are on board with it prior to giving then I woudlnt be comfy with it. I see nothing wrong with it IF one knows ahead...but if not I dont agree


The Royal "we"! You know, the editorial. :D

Definitely agree though, but since they are going to know ahead of time where the money is going, this is a great thing to do.

I can just see the other candidates itching to follow suit.

[jumpyg1258]

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[kylejack]

ummmm I m not sure how feel about that - that money is to get him elected - it is my money....I think he should give his own personal money before camapign donations ...:confused: Im sure its will great for marketing but im not a fan of this

It is not your money, it is the money of people attending the fund-raiser.

[mrchubbs]

I think this is fine... It is certainly a much better use of campaign contributions than when Giuliani pays his own security company, in essence, pays himself with his campaign money:

Giuliani Lines His Own Pockets. (http://marcg.net/blog/archives/237)


Enjoy.

[MusoSpuso]

i SEE BUT STILL its kind of odd to me.......I apprecite his generoisty but its with our money not his

This will help him get elected techncially. Good publicity.

[dsentell]

If RP were any other candidate, this would get him a whirlwind of publicity!

[ValidusCustodiae]

This will make local news all OVER the place, people are going to be talking about how the Ron Paul campaign helped them after losing so much.

It's a great idea, allow people to contribute to Ron Paul AND fire victims at the same time. He might pull in quite a bit just for their benefit which I'm sure they're going to need!

[fluoridatedbrainsoup]

Good karma down the line, guaranteed.

[rs3515]

Good karma down the line, guaranteed.

+1 ... big believer in karma.

[Akus]

ummmm I m not sure how feel about that - that money is to get him elected - it is my money....I think he should give his own personal money before camapign donations ...:confused: Im sure its will great for marketing but im not a fan of this

RP, in a way, this is an advertisement that is better then an ad in a paper or another bumper sticker on the car. If only one person asks, who donated that money and gets "Ron Paul" and inquires who the heck is Ron Paul, that is enough to get that extra consituency, even those who think we should stay in Iraq. Sometimes it's the person who attracts voters, even if his positions are not wholly accepted.

[terlinguatx]

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[rs3515]

One thing that really intrigues me about this is Ron Paul shows he's a man of conviction and principles.

I'm sure all of you perk up when he talks about eliminating the federal income tax. However I think the message that gets missed along with it is this: getting all that extra money back from the government comes with responsibility.

Not only responsibility to take care of our families, but take care of our neighbors, our community and the world. The money is not meant to acquire wealth and power, but meant to allow the people of this nation to truly become the government ... finding ways to contribute their personal gains to help others who are in need.

Pay attention to this man. This is someone who is a true leader, and leads by example.

[Shink]

More leading by example. Dr. Paul has a heart Atlas couldn't lift.

[thuja]

i am so upset i could fall over in a coma. you are unbelievably selfish! not until you hear it is california money do you deign to approve.
the ca fires are killing trees and ANIMALS! people have and are loosing their HOMES! you should be ashamed.
some of you are sooo selfish as to have decided fires are a good thing so publicty can be gained. Ron Paul would do this because he is a normal, kind person in a position to help, not for any other reason.
no wonder some people do not like us supporters! i no longer wish to be associated with you.

[nbhadja]

This is a net gain. He will make more money by donating to the Cali people than keeping it. The generosity could generate more votes and donations.

[Syren123]

It may not be the campaign's idea. It may the the people hosting the event's idea.

[Brian4Liberty]

Once we give money to the Ron Paul Campaign, it is their money to do with as they please...sorry, that's just the way it is when you give something away. "Give" means it's Ron's campaign money now. And as supporters, if we have good ideas, some of that money may eventually go there.

Why this is a good idea:

- It is publicity.
- It is going to a "good" cause, as opposed to if this were just an ad in a newspaper or TV, it would be going to the mainstream media!
- It is setting a real-life example of charity.
- It may bring more people (and money) to the event.
- More people at the event means more exposure to the Ron Paul message.

[Sparx]

i am so upset i could fall over in a coma. you are unbelievably selfish! not until you hear it is california money do you deign to approve.
the ca fires are killing trees and ANIMALS! people have and are loosing their HOMES! you should be ashamed.
some of you are sooo selfish as to have decided fires are a good thing so publicty can be gained. Ron Paul would do this because he is a normal, kind person in a position to help, not for any other reason.
no wonder some people do not like us supporters! i no longer wish to be associated with you.

Please clarify who this "you" is.

I didn't see anyone in this thread being selfish or degrading victims in any way. Also, it does NOT matter where the money is coming from whether it be California or Kansas or Arizona or wherever. The only misunderstanding in this thread was about if it was money already raised or money that is going to be raised with the knowledge beforehand to what was going to be done with it. As we now know, it is the latter. It has been cleared up. And yes, people will have an opinion about that, but that is not selfish.

Just like it is not selfish to understand that by doing a kind thing (and I agree that this is a very good thing to do to help victims no matter whose original idea it was behind the scenes) that it will bring good publicity. I certainly never thought or said that the fire itself is a good thing just because it would bring publicity nor do I believe anyone here feels that way at all so I'm not exactly sure where that thought came from.

I've lived in Southern California all my life and have been along with family and friends through many fires. What is going on right now is horrible indeed and I think what Ron Paul is doing is a genuinely great way to help victims here, but please understand that it in no way brings down those efforts when people here discuss what he is doing in relation to his fundraiser as well as what it shall bring to his campaign overall. The publicity is simply a part of a overall good gesture, not the reason for it.

[theprolific]

Ron Paul never fails to impress me. He really cares about the citizens of this country and that's what sets him apart from the rest. He walks the walk.

[kylejack]

I see some people who should read Atlas Shrugged.

[Kap]

I think it's the best way to spend campaign money. It gets his message out and helps people at the same time.

Now if the media would pick this up.....

[wgadget]

It's right there on the poster, but I have to say, it doesn't just jump out at ya...