Orrin Hatch urges Eric Holder to increase federal porn prosecutions.

[Anti Federalist]

Sen. Hatch Wants More Porn Prosecutions

http://www.theagitator.com/2011/04/07/sen-hatch-wants-more-porn-prosecutions/

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) has sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder demanding more federal obscenity prosecutions. The letter was co-signed by more than 100 other senators and congressmen. Here’s an excerpt:


Last June, an important briefing in the Capitol outlined how pornography has changed, becoming more harmful, addictive, and available, and linked to other crimes. Researchers, scholars, and other experts explained, for example, how today’s hardcore pornography is typified by extreme violence against women and how pornography consumption can contribute to sexual harassment and sexual violence. Another expert warned that Internet adult pornography normalizes sexual harm to children, while another addressed the growing connection between pornography and sex trafficking…

Simply put, we know more than ever how illegal adult obscenity contributes to violence against women, addiction, harm to children, and sex trafficking. This material harms individuals, families, and communities and the problems are only getting worse.

Hatch is full of crap. We don’t “know” any of these things. In fact, every conceivable social trend over the last 20 years obliterates the idea that porn is causing widespread societal harm.

The rise of the Internet in the mid-1990s made porn increasingly accessible to the point that today, just about everyone can watch people have sex damn-near any time of day, in every conceivable manner, in in every possible vareity. If Hatch and his colleagues are right, over the last 15-20 years, we should have seen a massive increase in the social ills listed in Hatch’s letter.

And in fact, every single one of these problems are trending in the opposite direction.

And it isn’t even close:

•Sex crimes against children: Down 53 percent between 1992 and 2006.
•Abortion: The abortion rate has dropped by about 25 percent since 1993.
•Teen pregnancy: In 2009, teen pregnancy hit its lowest rate in the 70 years that the federal government has been tracking the statistic.
•Divorce: The U.S. divorce rate is at its lowest level since 1970.
•Domestic violence: The rate of reported domestic violence in the U.S. dropped by more than half between 1993 and 2004.
•Rape: The forcible rape rate in the U.S. has dropped from 41.1 per 100,000 people in 1990 to 28.7 in 2009. That latter figure is also an all-time low.

[daviddee]

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[Anti Federalist]

Orrin needs to be clued in that the industry is barely still alive. The business has been savaged over the last 4 years....

Facts are meaningless, it doesn't matter.

All Hatch wants is more people in prison.

[acptulsa]

This isn't about porn. It's about 'net control.

[Anti Federalist]

This isn't about porn. It's about 'net control.

Yup, that too.

[heavenlyboy34]

This isn't about porn. It's about 'net control.
qft

[specsaregood]

I say we start by making it requirement to scan all our elected representatives work and personal computers first for "illegal" porn. Then we can talk about increasing prosecutions.

[heavenlyboy34]

Sen. Hatch Wants More Porn Prosecutions

http://www.theagitator.com/2011/04/07/sen-hatch-wants-more-porn-prosecutions/

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) has sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder demanding more federal obscenity prosecutions. The letter was co-signed by more than 100 other senators and congressmen. Here’s an excerpt:



Hatch is full of crap. We don’t “know” any of these things. In fact, every conceivable social trend over the last 20 years obliterates the idea that porn is causing widespread societal harm.

The rise of the Internet in the mid-1990s made porn increasingly accessible to the point that today, just about everyone can watch people have sex damn-near any time of day, in every conceivable manner, in in every possible vareity. If Hatch and his colleagues are right, over the last 15-20 years, we should have seen a massive increase in the social ills listed in Hatch’s letter.

And in fact, every single one of these problems are trending in the opposite direction.

And it isn’t even close:

•Sex crimes against children: Down 53 percent between 1992 and 2006.
•Abortion: The abortion rate has dropped by about 25 percent since 1993.
•Teen pregnancy: In 2009, teen pregnancy hit its lowest rate in the 70 years that the federal government has been tracking the statistic.
•Divorce: The U.S. divorce rate is at its lowest level since 1970.
•Domestic violence: The rate of reported domestic violence in the U.S. dropped by more than half between 1993 and 2004.
•Rape: The forcible rape rate in the U.S. has dropped from 41.1 per 100,000 people in 1990 to 28.7 in 2009. That latter figure is also an all-time low.
Have you ever read "Defending Pornography" by Nadine Strossen? Not even militant anti-porn feminists (such as the NOW gang) will debate her because her arguments are so solid. :cool:

[pcosmar]

This isn't about porn. It's about 'net control.

BINGO

If they wanted to catch folks, start with the Pentagon and D.C.

[Anti Federalist]

Have you ever read "Defending Pornography" by Nadine Strossen? Not even militant anti-porn feminists (such as the NOW gang) will debate her because her arguments are so solid. :cool:

No, I hadn't, not off the top of my head anyway.

I'll have to add that to the list.

Thanks for the tip.

[awake]

When you need more slaves you simply "adjust" the law to make illegal today what was legal yesterday. Magically you get more of what you wanted: more crime and more opportunity to tax for protection.

[specsaregood]

Orrin needs to be clued in that the industry is barely still alive. The business has been savaged over the last 4 years....


But it has been savaged in great part due to the abundence of free porn. Perhaps that is what he means by, "illegal adult obscenity ". He is trying to protect the industry by prosecuting free porn.

[acptulsa]

But it has been savaged in great part due to the abundence of free porn. Perhaps that is what he means by, "illegal adult obscenity ". He is trying to protect the industry by prosecuting free porn.

He wouldn't be the first Anti-Whatever Industry Big Regulator Bad Guy who was working for the industry in question the whole time.

[ChaosControl]

and it isn’t even close:

•sex crimes against children: Down 53 percent between 1992 and 2006.
•abortion: The abortion rate has dropped by about 25 percent since 1993.
•teen pregnancy: In 2009, teen pregnancy hit its lowest rate in the 70 years that the federal government has been tracking the statistic.
•divorce: The u.s. Divorce rate is at its lowest level since 1970.
•domestic violence: The rate of reported domestic violence in the u.s. Dropped by more than half between 1993 and 2004.
•rape: The forcible rape rate in the u.s. Has dropped from 41.1 per 100,000 people in 1990 to 28.7 in 2009. That latter figure is also an all-time low.

more pron nao!

[heavenlyboy34]

when you need more slaves you simply "adjust" the law to make illegal today what was legal yesterday. Magically you get more of what you wanted: More crime and more opportunity to tax for protection.

qft!!

[heavenlyboy34]

No, I hadn't, not off the top of my head anyway.

I'll have to add that to the list.

Thanks for the tip.

n/p. That's one of the books I cited in a freshman english essay I wrote defending porn. My teacher (a female) was none too pleased at my position, but couldn't refute me. ;) :cool:

[heavenlyboy34]

more pron nao!

w00t! :D:collins:

[daviddee]

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[Anti Federalist]

Orrin needs to be clued in that the industry is barely still alive. The business has been savaged over the last 4 years....

AF - The stats you post, in regards to crime, do not factor 3 strikes laws and the massive rate of incarceration that has occurred in the last 15 years. The aforementioned might affect the others also. I have no data, but it would have to be considered for a whole picture.

I'm sure it does, but what it does not do is make the case that Hatch is trying to make in the letter he signed, that there is an explosion in sex and exploitation crimes, because there is not.

[tangent4ronpaul]

It would sure be interesting to compare those 100 co-signers to the DC Madams address book....

I really wish someone would make and market Orrin and Eric inflatable sex doll sets in response to this. A bunch of those and a tank of helium would be a fun night in DC :D

[tangent4ronpaul]

I'm sure it does, but what it does not do is make the case that Hatch is trying to make in the letter he signed, that there is an explosion in sex and exploitation crimes, because there is not.

related:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?286336-White-House-targets-sexual-assault-on-campus

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

But it has been savaged in great part due to the abundence of free porn. Perhaps that is what he means by, "illegal adult obscenity ". He is trying to protect the industry by prosecuting free porn.

Probably. The adult entertainment market is simply reaching equilibrium where the customer wants cheaper entertainment and (sometimes) a different quality than the average silicon-enhanced bimbo sucking off 10 guys can give.

[tangent4ronpaul]

bump

[dean.engelhardt]

This is another example of why Libertarians cannot trust the GOP. Abusing power to promote a fake social issue is the only thing conservative about old school republicans.

[acptulsa]

This is another example of why Libertarians cannot trust the GOP. Abusing power to promote a fake social issue is the only thing conservative about old school republicans.

Don't forget using whatever they can--including and especially regulation--to squeeze out small business in favor of big business.

Oh, wait--that's not conservative. Never mind.

[Anti Federalist]

Don't forget using whatever they can--including and especially regulation--to squeeze out small business in favor of big business.

Oh, wait--that's not conservative. Never mind.

LoL that ^^^