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freshjiva
04-06-2011, 10:13 AM
Some things never change...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2012-hopefuls-tread-carefully-apf-366075210.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode=


2012 hopefuls tread carefully on Ryan budget
Republican presidential candidates tread carefully GOP budget plan

Philip Elliott, Associated Press, On Wednesday April 6, 2011, 11:30 am

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Mindful of the political risks, Republican presidential hopefuls treaded gingerly after House Republicans unveiled a budget plan that would slash federal spending by about $5 trillion over 10 years while revamping health programs for the elderly and poor.

Several, including former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, praised the budget's sponsor, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, but stopped short of fully endorsing the blueprint and didn't indicate whether they backed the massive changes in Medicare and Medicaid. Others, such as former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, were silent on the plan.

There's a reason none was eager to talk about it: The plan, unveiled Tuesday, could rile a pivotal constituency, millions of senior citizens who depend on the government-run health care programs. Also, the proposal is unlikely to be passed without changes; it's simply the starting point of a long fight over the budget for next federal fiscal year, which begins in October.

Even former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee acknowledged the document was a starting point.

"It's doubtful the House's proposal will be passed in its current form and it's unlikely that this one proposal will be the ultimate solution to all of our economic problems," Huckabee said on his blog. "But Congressman Ryan's proposal is certainly a start -- one that I support as a small step to restoring fiscal sanity and reducing the size of government."

Still, the contenders had little choice but to say something. Ignoring it altogether could anger conservative voters and tea party activists pressing for less spending and smaller government, constituencies GOP hopefuls need to court. The likely candidates are all but certain to be asked about the proposal as they campaign in the early nominating states; GOP primary voters in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina -- who take their jobs of vetting candidates seriously -- will demand specific answers.

But specifics were hard to come by.

"Rep. Ryan's budget recognizes the problem with government: too much spending without fiscal responsibility," Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, who is likely to enter the presidential race in the coming weeks, said in a Twitter message.

He elaborated in a letter, co-signed with other Republican Governors Association leaders, that applauded the effort to give states more control of health care programs.

"The House Republican budget halts the out-of-control spending spree of recent years, and imposes a back-to-basics fiscal discipline that voters clearly asked for in last November's midterm elections," RGA leaders wrote in a letter to Ryan.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, the lone likely presidential contender with a vote on the budget, said she looked forward to reviewing the full budget proposal but said "it is time to put our nation on a sustainable fiscal path."

"The fiscal disaster that's been perpetuated by record levels of government spending is threatening to ruin our country," the Minnesota lawmaker said in a statement.

Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor expected to make a second White House run, was almost as brief in a statement. It was sent only to reporters who inquired about his position.

"I applaud Rep. Paul Ryan for recognizing the looming financial crisis that faces our nation and for the creative and bold thinking that he brings to the debate. He is setting the right tone for finally getting spending and entitlements under control," Romney said.

But does he back the approach? Romney pointed to his 300-page book for a detailed version of how he would govern.

Pawlenty released a statement on the plan before House Republicans unveiled it at a news conference. He called Ryan a leader -- and then took the opportunity to bash the Democrat he hopes to challenge, saying, "President Obama has failed to lead and make tough choices his entire time in the White House."

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin weighed in with a Twitter posting: "There is hope! Serious & necessary leadership rolls out serious & necessary reform proposal. Good start." She directed readers to a column she wrote in December that praised Ryan.

Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, a former White House budget director, offered the strongest endorsement.

"The House budget resolution is the first serious proposal produced by either party to deal with the overriding issue of our time," Daniels said in a statement. "Anyone criticizing this plan without offering a specific and equally bold program of his own has failed in the public duty to be honest and clear with Americans about the gravest danger we are facing together."

Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, too, seemed willing to embrace the plan.

But he only focused on part of it, saying, "The Republicans' approach to reforming Medicare is right on target to streamline the program, reduce waste and allow future Medicare beneficiaries to have more of a say in the needs of their benefits with a market."

Ryan's plan would convert the traditional health plan for older Americans into a system in which the government would pay for private health insurance plans. The traditional Medicare program directly pays doctors and hospitals. The revision is a nonstarter for many older Americans who see any change to such government programs as unacceptable.

They managed to look up no-name candidates like Rick Santorum, Mitch Daniels, and Haley Barbour. Also managed to fudge the article by saying Michele Bachmann would be the only likely voter on the budget who is running for President.

Not a single mention of Ron Paul, who will likely vote Yea on Ryan's budget plan, emphatically, I might add.

cswake
04-06-2011, 10:22 AM
Nor a single mention of Rand Paul's budget plan.

sailingaway
04-06-2011, 10:46 AM
Rand's plan is better. Ryan's appears to both fail to balance the budget, and prioritize corporatist interests above those of individuals in determining the shape of cuts.

ItsTime
04-06-2011, 10:48 AM
No mention of Ron Paul = me not visiting site. Lies and falsehoods about Ron Paul = me not visiting the site.

AGRP
04-06-2011, 10:48 AM
If only Rand and Ron voted for TARP and the GM/Chrysler bailouts. Then they would be taken seriously as fiscal superheros.

freshjiva
04-06-2011, 10:52 AM
if only rand and ron voted for tarp and the gm/chrysler bailouts. Then they would be taken seriously as fiscal superheros.

lol, +1.

sailingaway
04-06-2011, 10:54 AM
They didn't want the 'it doesn't balance the budget' meme. this is supposed to be the 'serious, draconian' measure conservatives are supposed to have no option but to sign up for.

ItsTime
04-06-2011, 10:56 AM
If only Rand and Ron voted for TARP and the GM/Chrysler bailouts. Then they would be taken seriously as fiscal superheros.

ha good one!

Feeding the Abscess
04-06-2011, 11:20 AM
Some things never change...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2012-hopefuls-tread-carefully-apf-366075210.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode=



They managed to look up no-name candidates like Rick Santorum, Mitch Daniels, and Haley Barbour. Also managed to fudge the article by saying Michele Bachmann would be the only likely voter on the budget who is running for President.

Not a single mention of Ron Paul, who will likely vote Yea on Ryan's budget plan, emphatically, I might add.

I sincerely doubt Ron will vote for Ryan's budget. Otherwise, he'd have to stop saying that he's never voted for an unbalanced budget.