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DamianTV
04-05-2011, 02:21 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8428177/Test-childrens-genes-before-they-have-sex.html


Children should be encouraged to undergo genetic testing before they become sexually active to check whether they could pass on “hidden” abnormalities to their offspring, a government advisory group will say this week.

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The Human Genetic Commission will recommend that so-called preconception tests should be much more widely available. The screening allows specialists to see if potential parents are hidden carriers of genetic conditions.

Those who are found to be at greater risk of passing on a disease or abnormality have the option to seek IVF treatment, use donor eggs or sperm, or to adopt instead.

The tests raise questions about the extent to which doctors should intervene in nature. Suggesting that children have their genetic make-up analysed will add to the controversy.

The commission was asked in 2009 to review the ethical and legal questions surrounding preconception testing and will present its findings to the Department of Health this week. It has concluded that there are strong reasons to make preconception testing widely available to anyone who needs it, based on the principle that parents should have the maximum information and autonomy over their reproductive decisions.

The commission will advocate teaching children about the transmission of genetic conditions as part of their sex education, and encourage them to take a test before starting a sexual relationship.

Schools in some Australian states and Canadian provinces already test children for certain genetic conditions as a matter of routine.

Health ministers will respond to the report in the coming weeks to see what recommendations it follows.

However, they will be concerned about the cost of any widespread extension of testing to the teenage and adult population as a whole, as opposed to mothers who are already pregnant.

They will also be wary of a backlash from church groups and ethical campaigners concerned about a further move in the direction of “designer babies”.

The report argues that there is no ethical difference between preconception testing and antenatal screening. It argues that it is preferable for prospective parents to know about any genetic conditions in advance, rather than having to make a potentially agonising decision over whether to continue with a pregnancy after a condition has been diagnosed through antenatal screening.

At present, preconception test kits cost about £400 each and are able to test for around 100 diseases.

A new test, developed by the National Center for Genome Resources in New Mexico, could give results for 580 conditions. The cost for tests is expected to fall quickly.

The commission recommends extending education about preconception testing to the adult population through GPs’ surgeries, family

planning centres, chemists and community health visitors.

Once an affordable version of the test becomes available through the NHS, it also envisages these bodies dispensing the tests to individuals.

In order to limit the cost of the proposals, ministers could decide to make preconception testing available through the NHS, but only to individuals with a family history of genetic conditions.

*cough* Gattaca

So now it isnt them fatties or them smokers, now Big Brother wants to discriminate against anyone who's DNA they dont have locked away for who knows what by calling them Genetically Unviable. We're sorry, you have a predisposition towards male pattern baldness and should not be "allowed" to breed. Say that to someone who is four years old!

sevin
04-05-2011, 03:19 PM
I don't think getting such a test would be a bad idea, but it doesn't need to be government funded and it should not become mandatory.

DamianTV
04-05-2011, 04:30 PM
One of the things that disturbs me is how the information is going to be used. Once Insurance Companies start lobbying for this, they will start genetic discrimination. Pretty much saying that once the information is out there, its all over. The ways in which that information will be used can be for good or evil. On the evil side, it is just another layer of control.

Who you are answering to and what for will be determined by who is looking at your gentic information.

Sola_Fide
04-05-2011, 04:56 PM
The infallible scientific priests have spoken. There is no arguing against "science".

Science is the established religion in this country. Science will increasingly be the excuse given for every major loss of liberty we will suffer....mark my words.

Science (and by "science" I am speaking of Darwinism and environmentalism) is the greatest threat to liberty the world has ever known.

MelissaWV
04-05-2011, 04:59 PM
The language of that article, despite the obvious "big brother" aspect, is disturbing. Testing children? Good God, why? I do agree that you should be able to get these tests done, and it's a pretty important option to have. There are some rare and terrible diseases out there that minimize a child's quality of life or cause them an agonizing existence, and if parents want to ensure they don't happen to both have that rare gene, go for it. But the Government? Testing children? To see who should be counseled not to "breed"?

Sola_Fide
04-05-2011, 04:59 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01864/bab_1864459c.jpg

^^^Ewwwww! Gross! Look at that parasitic piece of protoplasm in that ultrasound.

NewRightLibertarian
04-05-2011, 09:46 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

acptulsa
04-05-2011, 09:54 PM
Once they get the cost down to where they can print enough money, they envision 'dispensing the tests to individuals'. Lovely language, that. Who could complain about a nice 'dispensation to' them?

But what stays behind in the computer? And once they get some fools to volunteer, that makes it so much easier to make it mandatory. See, they did it and they aren't dead.

Hey, people. They're trying to deprive you of grandchildren. Really!!