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tangent4ronpaul
04-03-2011, 11:02 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/04/business/energy-environment/04pipeline.html

increase the civil penalties his department can levy on companies that violate pipeline rules — to $250,000 a day from the current $100,000, and to $2.5 million for a series of violations, up from $1 million. He also wants to close some regulatory loopholes, including those that allow some pipelines to escape any regulation at all.

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Despite the series of recent accidents, the Transportation Department says those that result in death or serious injury are down nearly 60 percent over the last 20 years. But some of the accidents reveal deep problems.

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Aging pipelines are also a problem. In Pennsylvania, according to the Transportation Department, some cast iron pipes laid in the 1930s do not legally have to be replaced until 2111, when they would be 180 years old. New York State has a requirement that its oldest cast iron pipes be replaced by 2090, but many are already decades old, according to the department.

Mr. LaHood said he had met with the executives of major natural gas companies to discuss better surveillance of pipelines and a new replacement schedule.

Cynthia L. Quarterman, the administrator of the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, said her office did not have the authority to order replacement of pipes unless it found an “imminent hazard.” And, she said, pipes only had to be “fit for service.”

“There is no hundred-year deadline for any piece of pipe,” she said, although companies “have to assure it’s been operated and tested appropriately.”

But Mr. LaHood said “the point of this is to get everybody around the table and say, O.K., another 100 years in the ground is not going to cut it. We’re trying to work with all the stakeholders to reach a conclusion.”

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http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines.html
http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/pipelines_map_legent.jpg
http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg

(and that's just the big ones...)

We can't even keep the roads repaired and they want to dig up every pipeline in the country and replace it? - are they nuts???

-t

Zippyjuan
04-03-2011, 11:07 PM
We can't even keep the roads repaired and they want to dig up every pipeline in the country and replace it? - are they nuts???

-t

I don't see where they say they want to dig up and replace all the pipelines in the country.

Cynthia L. Quarterman, the administrator of the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, said her office did not have the authority to order replacement of pipes unless it found an “imminent hazard.” And, she said, pipes only had to be “fit for service.”

tangent4ronpaul
04-03-2011, 11:15 PM
"another 100 years in the ground is not going to cut it"

not all at once, but they are talking about putting a life span on them and replacing them. Many are already old.

acptulsa
04-04-2011, 07:42 AM
Did the Times really say that something built in the 1930s is 180 years old? Well, math was never their strong suit. Still smells more like spin than news.

payme_rick
04-04-2011, 08:08 AM
Did the Times really say that something built in the 1930s is 180 years old? Well, math was never their strong suit. Still smells more like spin than news.

No, they said in 2111 the pipes would be, which is pretty much accurate... I read is wrong the first time as well...

acptulsa
04-04-2011, 08:15 AM
And if we leave the head jackass in charge of the Times in place, by 2111 he'll be about 150. Fail.

I say the Sistine Chapel should be replaced lock stock and barrel. It's stones are old.