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muzzled dogg
04-02-2011, 04:18 PM
Politico: RNC proposes its own debates

By JONATHAN MARTIN
Politico
Friday, Apr. 1, 2011

The Republican National Committee is proposing to sponsor a series of monthly presidential primary debates beginning in August and running through February in which the RNC would determine the format and require each participating candidate to raise money for the party at the event, according to an email obtained by Politico.

In a message sent Friday night, James Bopp, the party’s Indiana committeeman and chairman of a special debate committee, asked aides to potential GOP candidates to agree to six RNC-sanctioned debates in which “the RNC or its designee may at its discretion determine the time, place, co-sponsors, format , subject matter, moderators, and participants.”
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Under the plan, laid out in a one-page memo co-signed by RNC Chief of Staff Jeff Larson, the candidates would still be allowed to participate in other, non-party sanctioned debates. But the RNC is offering an incentive to lure the hopefuls to their plan: access to the party’s vast fundraising list and voter file.

“Those candidates invited to participate in RNC-sanctioned debates will be allowed to participate in a list exchange with the RNC,” writes Bopp.

There’s no direct suggestion that any candidates who decline to join the party’s debates would be denied the lists, but that’s how at least one adviser to a potential candidate read it.

“Punishment,” said the adviser. “This is all about two things: hatred and mistrust of the media and money.”

There’s no doubt about the latter. The debt-racked national party, led by Chairman Reince Priebus, is working feverishly to raise money and is trying to be creative about how to pay back the $21 million they owed as of the end of February.

Bopp’s idea: make the candidates attend fundraisers held in conjunction with each month’s forum.

“If you participate in an RNC-sponsored debate you would attend a fundraising event the RNC may host at the debate in order to help raise money for the Presidential Trust,” he writes.

Bopp also suggests that the party’s attempt to sanction debates is related to concerns among Republicans about news organizations overseeing and moderating the events and that they’d prefer a format with more ideologically sympathetic moderators.

“We think we all agree the objective of the RNC-sanctioned debates would be to provide a fair and impartial forum for the Republican candidates to educate and inform voters about their candidacies in a series of candidate forums which are Party and grassroots-driven rather than media driven,” he writes.

In a cover note to the memo, Bopp adds that the goal of the party debates would be to let the candidates “effectively get their message out to Republican voters and, thereby, to help Republican voters to choose the best candidate for the Republican nomination.”

An array of news outlets, including Politico, have already set dates for Republican primary debates over the next year. Some of the planned sessions are being co-sponsored by state Republican parties and it’s possible that the RNC could simply sanction some of those or any of the other debates already scheduled.

But it remains uncertain if this plan will ultimately come to fruition. When representatives of the candidates met with Priebus and Larson last month they expressed concern over the amount of debate requests they were facing and discussed whether the national party could bring some order to the process. But the idea was not to have the RNC create the possibility for more debates beyond those already scheduled.

Bopp concludes his memo by requesting that the campaigns-in-waiting “respond in writing at your earliest convenience to let us know if you accept this proposal.” But RNC communications director Sean Spicer suggested that the committee remains willing to discuss their plan with the potential candidates.

“We are interested in getting feedback from the potential presidential campaigns about what would work best,” he said. “It has the potential to bring a lot of order to the process.”

Spicer declined to say whether those candidates who didn’t participate would be denied access to the party’s lists, only reiterating that the RNC wanted to “get feedback” from the campaigns.

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ItsTime
04-02-2011, 04:21 PM
“Those candidates invited to participate in RNC-sanctioned debates will be allowed to participate in a list exchange with the RNC,” writes Bopp.

Is that mandatory? Or just "allowed" to share. What happens if Ron Paul says no to the sharing of the list?

eduardo89
04-02-2011, 04:25 PM
Is that mandatory? Or just "allowed" to share. What happens if Ron Paul says no to the sharing of the list?

Will Ron even be invited?

acptulsa
04-02-2011, 04:27 PM
So, the RNC wants to run the debates on a more-or-less for profit basis with the excuse that it will be more 'party and grassroots' oriented.

I'm grass roots and I didn't get asked what 'subject matter' I wanted covered in the debates. Any of you other grass roots get asked what you want asked in the debates?

ItsTime
04-02-2011, 04:28 PM
Will Ron even be invited?

Well if they want our money bad enough they will invite him.

Icymudpuppy
04-02-2011, 04:30 PM
Hmm, Methinks good opportunity to bankrupt the republican party. Lets sink it, and let a new party form.

ItsTime
04-02-2011, 04:31 PM
Hmm, Methinks good opportunity to bankrupt the republican party. Lets sink it, and let a new party form.

The government will bail them out. HA.

acptulsa
04-02-2011, 04:33 PM
I don't know. Maybe the elites are through with them now that they've let us in.

Maybe we should tell them if they appoint the CFL chair to be their chair as well we'll throw a moneybomb for them.

eduardo89
04-02-2011, 04:43 PM
They have a $23 million debt, to me that doesn't sound like all that much. Don't they have some rich backers who could easily pay that off for them?

Matt Collins
04-02-2011, 05:10 PM
Very BAD idea!

acptulsa
04-02-2011, 05:15 PM
Very BAD idea!

What, hijacking the campaigns for money or keeping them out of the debates? They might get some grassroots money if they come to us for guidance on the questions to ask.

Matt Collins
04-02-2011, 06:53 PM
In a message sent Friday night, James Bopp, the party’s Indiana committeeman and chairman of a special debate committee, asked aides to potential GOP candidates to agree to six RNC-sanctioned debates in which “the RNC or its designee may at its discretion determine the time, place, co-sponsors, format , subject matter, moderators, and participants.”Yeah, and those that don't tow the party line won't get invited.


But the RNC is offering an incentive to lure the hopefuls to their plan: access to the party’s vast fundraising list and voter file.It's called Voter Vault, and every Republican candidate has access to it already. Well at least they should.



“Those candidates invited to participate in RNC-sanctioned debates will be allowed to participate in a list exchange with the RNC,” writes Bopp.Yeah, they want to know who we are so that they can try and fund raise off us and the independent Palin types.





There’s no direct suggestion that any candidates who decline to join the party’s debates would be denied the lists, but that’s how at least one adviser to a potential candidate read it.Yeah right. If you believe that then Hillary has some land in Arkansas to sell you.


There’s no doubt about the latter. The debt-racked national party, led by Chairman Reince Priebus, is working feverishly to raise money and is trying to be creative about how to pay back the $21 million they owed as of the end of February.The party of fiscal responsibility is $21 million in debt and can't climb out? Hmmm... any wonder they have been losing elections recently?


Bopp’s idea: make the candidates attend fundraisers held in conjunction with each month’s forum.Right. Ron will just hold his own fund raiser immediately preceding or following for a smaller entrance fee. Competition anyone?


Bopp also suggests that the party’s attempt to sanction debates is related to concerns among Republicans about news organizations overseeing and moderating the events and that they’d prefer a format with more ideologically sympathetic moderators.No, the Party wants to control the narrative and issues discussed. They want to only let voters hear what they want the candidates to say.





Having the RNC do a single token debate, I don't see that big a deal with. But it could be a slippery slope and we do NOT want the RNC to do more than 1 debate, if even that.

libertybrewcity
04-02-2011, 11:04 PM
NOOOOOOOoooooo!