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Brian4Liberty
04-01-2011, 07:30 PM
Did anyone catch a bit of Hannity today? He was talking to Frank Luntz, and Hannity was asking Luntz which new, young, popular GOP politicians should the GOP emulate or follow. Hannity named a list of the usual teo-cons, including Rubio (glaringly not naming Rand), and Luntz said we need straight talk on the important issues like we get from Rand Paul.

Not saying that Luntz is a big supporter, but he sure is recognizing success, even when Hannity was prompting him to go in a different direction. Who knows if that was completely scripted or not. It was interesting, although in the end, Luntz is a marketing person, which has nothing to do with truth or conviction from candidates.

Edit: Found a Tube. Straight from the horse mouth. Starts getting to the Rand topic around 4-5 minute mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nimDvYBQmfg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nimDvYBQmfg

Sola_Fide
04-01-2011, 07:36 PM
I remember during the Senate races, Luntz analyzed Rand's message as being the most effective of all the Tea Party candidates.

Agorism
04-01-2011, 07:37 PM
Rubio reminds me of something out of the Stepford Wives movies (and no I didn't actually watch that movie just commercials)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3HASgMS7w0

low preference guy
04-01-2011, 07:38 PM
lol. that's awesome.

low preference guy
04-01-2011, 07:38 PM
Rubio is a hardcore neocon

Brian4Liberty
04-01-2011, 07:47 PM
I remember during the Senate races, Luntz analyzed Rand's message as being the most effective of all the Tea Party candidates.

That might have been what he was referring to.

Brian4Liberty
04-01-2011, 07:51 PM
Rubio is a hardcore neocon

Yep. His complete silence on budget/fiscal issues, and outspoken war-mongering and has moved him from "teocon" to pure neocon...

Brian4Liberty
04-02-2011, 11:40 AM
Found a Tube. Straight from the horse mouth. Starts getting to the Rand topic around 4-5 minute mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nimDvYBQmfg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nimDvYBQmfg

AuH20
04-02-2011, 11:44 AM
Found a Tube. Straight from the horse mouth. Starts getting to the Rand topic around 4-5 minute mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nimDvYBQmfg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nimDvYBQmfg

Hannity couldn't even bring up Rand's name out of 7 or 8 notables. He's hopeless.

acptulsa
04-02-2011, 11:48 AM
Good old Luntz. You can live it, or you can just mouth it, but it's still the message that works.

He's right. Been a long time getting it heard.

acptulsa
04-02-2011, 11:51 AM
Good old Luntz. You can live it, or you can just mouth it, but it's still the message that works.

He's right. Been a long time getting it heard.

JoshLowry
04-02-2011, 11:56 AM
Yea, pretty much, "We need to copy Rand Paul's message if we're going to be taken seriously."

Good to hear, but bad to know that most won't walk the walk.

Brian4Liberty
04-02-2011, 11:56 AM
Hannity couldn't even bring up Rand's name out of 7 or 8 notables. He's hopeless.

But he moans the name Marco in his sleep now... ;)

dejavu22
04-02-2011, 12:32 PM
I would like to begin with a "Fuck you Frank"

But with that out of the way he is right to the point of that will get someone elected but without walking the walk you are only poisoning the well for the future much like bush did for people who call themselves conservatives.

I agree we need a clear message but we cannot only be words.

dejavu22
04-02-2011, 12:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4

in case some dont know why i said my opening statement.

JoshLowry
04-02-2011, 01:04 PM
I would like to begin with a "Fuck you Frank"

But with that out of the way he is right to the point of that will get someone elected but without walking the walk you are only poisoning the well for the future much like bush did for people who call themselves conservatives.

I agree we need a clear message but we cannot only be words.

PoisoningTheWell.com is available...

All my backburners are full at the moment.

low preference guy
04-02-2011, 03:33 PM
I'm pretty sure this is the ad Frank is talking about


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVorVi8gCJM

IDefendThePlatform
04-02-2011, 03:48 PM
I'm pretty sure this is the ad Frank is talking about


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVorVi8gCJM


"Government is the servant, not the master." That was a good line. I'd like to hear that one repeated a bunch more between now and nov 2012.

Sola_Fide
04-02-2011, 03:58 PM
Remember this one?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8wYJv0WmHI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Man....2010 was a year of comedy gold:)

BlackTerrel
04-02-2011, 04:27 PM
Rubio reminds me of something out of the Stepford Wives movies (and no I didn't actually watch that movie just commercials)

A little bit defensive on that movie :D

acptulsa
04-02-2011, 04:30 PM
I tend to read Luntz's message a little deeper.

The American people have had enough of #@$%&<+ war.

Matt Collins
04-02-2011, 06:57 PM
I'm pretty sure this is the ad Frank is talking aboutDid Rand's campaign hire Luntz? Or did Luntz' organization just test this ad on their own accord just to see what the results were?

OR

Did the NRSC / Trey team hire Luntz to test this ad?

low preference guy
04-02-2011, 06:59 PM
Did Rand's campaign hire Luntz? Or did Luntz' organization just test this ad on their own accord just to see what the results were?

OR

Did the NRSC / Trey team hire Luntz to test this ad?

Why don't you give your buddy Frank a call and find out? If you don't know his number, I'm sure you can get in touch with that dear friend of yours, Judge Andrew Napolitano, to get it.

Sola_Fide
04-02-2011, 07:03 PM
Why don't you give your buddy Frank a call and find out? If you don't know his number, I'm sure you can get in touch with that dear friend of yours, Judge Andrew Napolitano, to get it.

Why so snarky? :collins:

speciallyblend
04-02-2011, 08:30 PM
title of thread alone makes me want to bitch slap luntz and then start throwing snowballs!!

Tonewah
04-04-2011, 07:17 AM
Yeah, Satan can compliment me all he wants, but I'm still not going to listen to him.