EU to ban cars from cities by 2050

[emazur]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8411336/EU-to-ban-cars-from-cities-by-2050.html

The European Commission on Monday unveiled a "single European transport area" aimed at enforcing "a profound shift in transport patterns for passengers" by 2050.

The plan also envisages an end to cheap holiday flights from Britain to southern Europe with a target that over 50 per cent of all journeys above 186 miles should be by rail.

Top of the EU's list to cut climate change emissions is a target of "zero" for the number of petrol and diesel-driven cars and lorries in the EU's future cities.

Siim Kallas, the EU transport commission, insisted that Brussels directives and new taxation of fuel would be used to force people out of their cars and onto "alternative" means of transport.

"That means no more conventionally fuelled cars in our city centres," he said. "Action will follow, legislation, real action to change behaviour."

[trey4sports]

That is scary quite honestly.

[FrankRep]

Dupe

European Union to Ban Cars From Cities by 2050 | To Fight Global Warming
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?285439-European-Union-to-Ban-Cars-From-Cities-by-2050-To-Fight-Global-Warming

[Philhelm]

. . . to change behaviour.

This says it all. I think that forcing citizens to travel by rail is very symbolic of our current problem. Rather than allowing citizens to travel freely via car, they may only travel on the rail that is set by government.

[South Park Fan]

Why am I not surprised by another totalitarian action by the EUSSR?

[freshjiva]

I'm kinda split on this one.

I'm an avid cyclist, and somewhat of an "activist" if you will regarding the advantages of cycling in the city over other modes of transportation.

Though even I agree that government enforcement, especially of this magnitude, is the last thing we need.

[TheNcredibleEgg]

Wild guess - gov't, police, and military will be exempt.

[tangent4ronpaul]

The EU is normally 5 years ahead of the US as far as socialist trends.

In this case, the EU is 50+ years behind Seattle WA.

[AZKing]

Wild guess - gov't, police, and military will be exempt.

They won't need to be. They'll just put trackers and shock collars on everyone ;)

[Cowlesy]

This will never happen.

You can save this post until 2050 too.

[low preference guy]

This will never happen.

You can save this post until 2050 too.

my thoughts. many of the morons proposing this will be dead by then. and even if they are alive, probably they'll still be using cars.

[tangent4ronpaul]

And riding in armored limo's that get shitty gas milage

[sailingaway]

Their cities at least can manage that, they were built before cars, to begin with. However, it is outrageous.

[rawful]

Society to ban EU by 2050.

[specsaregood]

This will never happen.

Well of course it won't.


my thoughts. many of the morons proposing this will be dead by then. and even if they are alive, probably they'll still be using cars.
That is true, but that isn't the part that sucks. Just imagine the laws and taxes they are going to create using this goal as the excuse.

[low preference guy]

That is true, but that isn't the part that sucks. Just imagine the laws and taxes they are going to create using this goal as the excuse.

at least I don't live in Europe

[NYgs23]

I'm kinda split on this one.

I'm an avid cyclist, and somewhat of an "activist" if you will regarding the advantages of cycling in the city over other modes of transportation.

Though even I agree that government enforcement, especially of this magnitude, is the last thing we need.

You'd be better off saying that the government should simply stop subsidizing roads. They took our money to build the roads and pave the roads, and now they want to kick us off them.

[NewRightLibertarian]

The EU, along with the New World Order, will hopefully be destroyed by then.

[specsaregood]

at least I don't live in Europe

See post #8.

[low preference guy]

See post #8.

I think there was a significant change in the last few years. Europe has no Tea Party. You don't ever see protests in Europe because the government wants to give them universal health care.

[BamaAla]

So long as Top Gear stays on the air...

[emazur]

I'm kinda split on this one.

I'm an avid cyclist, and somewhat of an "activist" if you will regarding the advantages of cycling in the city over other modes of transportation.

Though even I agree that government enforcement, especially of this magnitude, is the last thing we need.

Me too - I only use my car about once a week and a major reason I moved to where I am now is b/c it's so bike friendly. If a government is so concerned about cars and emissions it could make cycling more viable by adding bike lines or sidewalks instead of banning cars. The car is great to have though when I'm in a hurry, going shopping, going out of town, or it's raining

[JCLibertarian]

I hope that by 2050 there are no more gasoline powered cars on the road, and I think that ill be the case, despite the market stifling alternative energy innovation through oil subsidies. But I oppose these attempts by the EU to undermine the national sovereignty of individual European nations and impose government controls on the market and consumers.

[s35wf]

Society to ban EU by 2050.

lol :D

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

This will never happen.

You can save this post until 2050 too.

I would bet against you. There are a lot of things people say will never happen and I can think of a lot of them that have happened.

[Diurdi]

You really think EU will be around in its current form in 2050?

[robert9712000]

I assume there will be an acception made if you move into the city or build or will you have to use a horse drawn wagon to move items around? I think they didnt think about this proposal for more than 5 minutes before they posted it.

[FrankRep]

http://thenewamerican.com/images/stories2011/10aMarch/eucentral-ap.001.jpg



The European Union (EU) is seeking broad new powers over the formerly sovereign nations of Europe including direct taxation via a Tobin tax, further centralization of economic decisions, the ability to levy massive fines on national governments, harmonization of corporate tax policy and more, prompting a fierce backlash by activists and even some governments against the silent revolution.


European Union (EU) Seeks Vast New Powers, Direct Taxes (http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/6760-eu-seeks-vast-new-powers-direct-taxes)


Alex Newman | The New American (http://thenewamerican.com/)
21 March 2011

[acptulsa]

I love the EU. I really do.

All these liberals have been running around for years saying the federal government should do this and that because they make it work in Europe. Of course, no European nation has the acreage of Texas, so nothing any of them does is on anything like the scale of all of the U.S. And none of them will admit that the U.S.S.R. is a better model.

Now we have a centralized European powermongering body to shovel out the fail and demonstrate that we were right all along. Sucks for them, but works for me!

[eduardo89]

I guess I'm 50 years ahead of the trend, I don't have a car and I use rail for all of my short and medium distance trips.

[Fire11]

If the world factories would have been working for 12 hours a day only for past 50 to 100 years, then only 50% of world's resources would have been consumed today. The world economy would have easily survived for another 100 years without any problem. There would have been no financial crisis and multi-trillion bailouts for next 100 years and more. The human greed to develop very fast and competition has led to the downfall of world economy ultimately. Example, if there is 200 storey building, you will reach the top of the building by elevator/lift or staircase. If you use elevator you reach the top in 2 minutes and then you have to come down. If you use staircase, you reach the top in 2 hours and then you come down.

For past 50 to 100 years, world factories and manufacturing facilities have been working and producing products and goods for 24 hours a day and 365 days a year. That is the reason the world resources and raw materials are in serious trouble and world prices are sky-high because everything has been consumed in a short span of time. Human beings are breeding like rats and they say rats are breeding like rats. To feed the massive hunger (food and products) of 7.5 billion to 8 billion people the world production works for 24 hours a day which further increases the population.

All the world factories should be shut down for 12 hours a day. There should be death silence so that everybody and animals can rest in peace and the Earth can cool down for 12 hours a day.

[Diurdi]

@Fire11

Firstly, some factories cannot be shut down every day as it takes incredibly amount of energy and effort to get them running again (e.g. Blast Furnace). This means that running factories 24/7 gives us the biggest amount products for the smallest amount of resources.

Secondly, if world factories had been working 12 hours a day, we would be living in a lot worse conditions. Alot of people on this planet wouldn't exist, alot of inventions would never have been invented, we simply couldn't enjoy the high living standards we have today.

[Southron]

I think it's safe to say that Europe as we know it won't exist by 2050. It is projected to lose 124 million people by then.

[Zippyjuan]

The piece does not say no cars- it says no "conventionally powered" ie. gasoline powered cars. This would seem to mean electric (you will have to increase electricity generation though which is usually by burning carbon sources so it is not truely "zero carbon" either) or perhaps hybrid types of cars.

[Fire11]

Somebody had posted that some rich people pay $50,000 per night for prostitutes. Many useless rich people are involved in prostitution and pornography. The biggest problem is that even prostitutes and pornography people have cars. These useless people drive in cars whereas millions and billions of hard working people walk or use public transport.

Immediately take away/confiscate cars from these useless people. This should be the first step towards reducing car problem and then we will think of something else.

[Fire11]

Immediately take away/confiscate cars from these useless people.
http://www.break.com/index/russian-tow-truck-fail-2033285

[Jack Bauer]

Somebody had posted that some rich people pay $50,000 per night for prostitutes. Many useless rich people are involved in prostitution and pornography. The biggest problem is that even prostitutes and pornography people have cars. These useless people drive in cars whereas millions and billions of hard working people walk or use public transport.

Immediately take away/confiscate cars from these useless people. This should be the first step towards reducing car problem and then we will think of something else.

You are a funny guy.

[Fire11]

You are a funny guy.
If useless people drive cars then hard working people will be denied cars. Car reduction has to start from somewhere. Make your own decision.

[Jack Bauer]

If useless people drive cars then hard working people will be denied cars. Car reduction has to start from somewhere. Make your own decision.

You are either the most epic troll on this forum or the dumbest guy on the forum.

[Diurdi]

You are either the most epic troll on this forum or the dumbest guy on the forum. He be trollin'

[osan]

action to change behaviour

There's the money shot, if you will.

They give themselves away at times in not-so-subtle ways.

[osan]

If useless people drive cars then hard working people will be denied cars.

Useless people? Define this, please. Who is useless? By what standard are they so deemed? Who judges? By what standard are these people chosen as fit to the role of judgment? Who chooses them? By what authority do those people choose? And the list of salient questions goes on for quite a way further down the rabbit hole.



Car reduction has to start from somewhere. Make your own decision.

It does? Please elaborate. Who says they do? Based on what? Whence comes their authority?

[Fire11]

Other poster: I thought it was funny...on Liberty Radio (Dr. Stan) had a guest that was claiming that hybrid cars are electrical coffins because of the EMF exposure.