Lieberman and McCain just on talking about attacking contry after country in middle east

[tangent4ronpaul]

Just incredible... it was on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallas. It will re-run at 6pm EST and probably again later.

SOMEONE PLEASE TUBE THIS!

Talking about "transforming" the entire Middle East. When Liebermann was asked about Syria, he said that if the dictator attacked his own people, they would do just what they are doing in Libya so his only option was to negotiate with the "freedom fighters" to create a democracy in that country.

He then went on about doing the same in country after country in that region...

ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE! :eek:

-t

[spudea]

i heard it too.

They are so shortsighted

That and O'Reillys "Noble" America idea completely ignores unintended consequences of our use of force around the world.

[FrankRep]

Just following the plan step by step.


2007 Interview: Ret. General Wesley Clark Exposes the Insiders Plans to Attack the Middle East


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4RBUAzFv-A


2001 - Clark received a Memo that said: We're going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran


http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories2011/10aMarch/2707-egypt1.jpg (http://www.shopjbs.org/index.php/tna/subscriptions/1-year-standard-subscription.html)

2011 - Organized Chaos: Behind the Scenes in the Middle East (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/world-mainmenu-26/asia-mainmenu-33/6784-organized-chaos-behind-the-scenes-in-the-middle-east)

The Middle East uprisings may have surprised most people in the world, but globalist elites at the Council on Foreign Relations laid the groundwork for the spontaneous events.


http://thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US_News/2516coverstorycfr.jpg

2009: Council On Foreign Relations (http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/foreign-policy/1462)

During his presidential campaign, Barack Obama consistently promised Americans “change” and such promises aren’t new to the voting public as was seen with Carter and his Trilateral Commission group, chief among these the CFR. by James Perloff

http://www.shopjbs.org/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/S/h/Shadows_of_Power_web.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0882791346?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0882791346)

The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0882791346?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0882791346)


Does America have a hidden oligarchy? Is U.S. foreign policy run by a closed shop? What is the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations)? It began in 1921 as a front organization for J.P. Morgan and Company. By World War II it had acquired unrivaled influence on American foreign policy. Hundreds of U.S. government administrators and diplomats have been drawn from its ranks - regardless of which party has occupied the White House. But what does the Council on Foreign Relations stand for? Why do the major media avoid discussing it? What has been its impact on America's past - and what is it planning for the future? (2008, 272pp, pb)

[acptulsa]

I'd love to see these two play chess. But not on my chess set. What a bloodbath!

[sailingaway]

I'd love to see these two play chess. But not on my chess set. What a bloodbath!

It would be novel. You have to think they'd keep borrowing pieces from other chess sets to replace the ones they originally lose....sort of the never ending chess game...

[FrankRep]

I'd love to see these two play chess. But not on my chess set. What a bloodbath!

They are playing the ultimate Chess game:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/The-grand-chessboard.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465027261/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0465027261)

The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465027261/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0465027261)
- Zbigniew Brzezinski




Zbigniew Brzezinski is a member (http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html?letter=B) of the Council on Foreign Relations (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0882791346?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0882791346).

[acptulsa]

It would be novel. You have to think they'd keep borrowing pieces from other chess sets to replace the ones they originally lose....sort of the never ending chess game...

Oh, man, I swear there's a viral t00b in that somewhere.

[Brian4Liberty]

Just incredible... it was on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallas. It will re-run at 6pm EST and probably again later.

SOMEONE PLEASE TUBE THIS!


No tube yet, but I typed up a partial transcript in this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?284737-Next-on-the-Hit-list-Syria&p=3179802&viewfull=1#post3179802

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?284737-Next-on-the-Hit-list-Syria/

[Immortal Technique]

Here yeah go

Liebermann Says Libya Has Set Precedent For West Intervention: Sets Eyes On Syria And Yemen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB3RxHoW5Jw

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-27/u-s-won-t-intervene-in-syria-unrest-clinton-says-on-cbs.html

U.S. Won't Intervene in Syria as Assad Differs From Qaddafi, Clinton Says

Clinton said the elements that led to intervention in Libya -- international condemnation, an Arab League call for action, a United Nations Security Council resolution -- are “not going to happen” with Syria, in part because members of the U.S. Congress from both parties say they believe Assad is “a reformer.”

“What’s been happening there the last few weeks is deeply concerning, but there’s a difference between calling out aircraft and indiscriminately strafing and bombing your own cities,” Clinton said, referring to Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi’s attacks on the Libyan people, “than police actions which, frankly, have exceeded the use of force that any of us would want to see.”
...

Glad everyone is on the same page here.... :rolleyes:

ps: thank you for the transcript and tubes

[HOLLYWOOD]

Don't think it won't happen... these Imperialists, etc can create any situation, any crisis, any justification to go to War, Police Actions, Protective whatever, for any reason.

Here's today comment from so-called coalition leaders: UK?US Propaganda Machine for Libya

Obama was expected to give a speech to the nation Monday, and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on Sunday defended the administration's decision.

Libya, she(Clinton) told CBS, "had a leader who used military force against the protesters from one end of his country to the other, who publicly said things like "we'll show no mercy," "we'll go house to house," and the international community moved with great speed in part because there's a history here."


Pentagon officials are looking at plans to expand the firepower and airborne surveillance systems in the military campaign, including using the Air Force's AC-130 gunship armed with cannons that shoot from the side doors, as well as helicopters and drones. They're going to use "Puff The Magic Dragons and everybody's favorite civilian killer Predator Drones. So much for a "No Fly Zone, eh?



Fox, the British foreign minister, ruled out supplying arms to the rebels. "We are not arming the rebels, we are not planning to arm the rebels," he said. :rolleyes: Wanta bet?

Egypt Said to Arm Libya Rebels
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704360404576206992835270906.html
Additionally, US to provide emergency money and equipment to Egypt/Military/Militants/Gun/Weapons Runners... now guess where much of that stash/Cash is being funnel to? Told y'all that Egypt will cost us much much more in the long run... and also, Egypt appears as being used a Proxy nation jumping point to other nations. With the Egyptian Military being the current dictator, and their #2 guy being US trained, looks like a cozy deal was struck.

Wasn't it US Senator Lindsey Graham that said months ago Africa is next? Yes Indeed.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Aren't making straw purchases of firearms a felony?

:rolleyes:

[HOLLYWOOD]

Aren't making straw purchases of firearms a felony?

:rolleyes:

We progressed from Iran-Contra to Egypt-Libyan Rebels ARMS DEALS in 25 years. I think we should change Sundays to US Corpora-Fascist Propaganda Day. It was pure BS and Indoctrination Nation on all their Corporate Media Channels today. Same garbage parroted and well rehearsed by all of them. Even the moderators like ABC's Jake Trapper w/Clinton/Gates/Rumsfeld and CNN's Candy Crowley with Senator Levine/Ex CIA Chief Hayden/Stephen Hadley... were doing their own version of creating propaganda for shaping and steering the viewing audiences for the state. Plus diggin up the retired to lie... Wesley Clark,

Defense Secretary: Libya Did Not Pose Threat to U.S., Was Not 'Vital National Interest' to Intervene
http://abcnews.go.com/International/defense-secretary-libya-pose-threat-us-vital-national/story?id=13231987

[doodle]

Not too surprising considering that Obama is a plant and bought political slave of pro war Israeli lobbies. LINK (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?284901-Obama-s-guru-John-Kerry-on-Vietnam-and-Afghanistan-Wars&p=3177274&viewfull=1#post3177274)

[Brian4Liberty]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-27/u-s-won-t-intervene-in-syria-unrest-clinton-says-on-cbs.html

U.S. Won't Intervene in Syria as Assad Differs From Qaddafi, Clinton Says



Clinton said the elements that led to intervention in Libya -- international condemnation, an Arab League call for action, a United Nations Security Council resolution -- are “not going to happen” with Syria, in part because members of the U.S. Congress from both parties say they believe Assad is “a reformer.”

The irony here is thick. International condemnation? Arab League? United Nations? She is only missing the most important factor: lack of Congressional approval and a Declaration of War. But this won't happen to Syria due to members of the US Congress?! Congress is obsolete and irrelevant! As long as they can get a couple of pro-war Senators to call for war, it's all good. :rolleyes:

[puppetmaster]

just following the plan step by step.


2007 interview: Ret. General wesley clark exposes the insiders plans to attack the middle east


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rbuazfv-a


2001 - clark received a memo that said: We're going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, syria, lebanon, libya, somalia, sudan, and iran





nato = nwo

[HOLLYWOOD]

The irony here is thick. International condemnation? Arab League? United Nations? She is only missing the most important factor: lack of Congressional approval and a Declaration of War. But this won't happen to Syria due to members of the US Congress?! Congress is obsolete and irrelevant! As long as they can get a couple of pro-war Senators to call for war, it's all good. :rolleyes:

I don't have a lot of time right now to put it all together, but someone's cut an deal with the West on Libya. Remember CFR was in Egypts for months putting this little "Shin-Dig" together. Then when it happened, CFR was like clockwork on every single MSM medium/show/etc... Haas and Stephen Cook are few that come to mind.


Reuters (http://twitter.com/Reuters) FLASH: Libyan rebel spokesman says Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte has fallen into the hands of the rebelsRemember how some of the Arab countries cut out Sadam and Iraq on the Oil markets with price fixing/dumping etc? Now we see New Egypt with Lieberman, McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Sec Defense Roberts Gates showboating and spending a lot time there with government officials now that Mubbark has be rousted out... We see New Egypt front running weapons to the Rebels in Libya(Remember Congressman Charlie Wilson's war and how the Egyptians front ran AK-47s, Landmines, RPGs, weapons, aid and Stingers from Egypt to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets)

We know Libya has assets in Oil and Gas... Not for one second do I believe true Arab League coalition would allow the destruction of an Islamic state (95%) from the western Imperialists. Next, Egyptian, Amr Mohammed Moussa, Arab League Secretary General of the Arab League, who was also, head of the Department of International Organizations and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for Egypt.

Then there's this little gem... Amr Mohammed Moussa
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Amr_Moussa.jpg/220px-Amr_Moussa.jpg
That's Moussa speaking to journalists at the
World Economic Forum, Davos, Switzerland.



On February 22, 2011, following the 2011 Libyan Uprising and the use of military force against civilians, the Arab League Secretary General, Amr Moussa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amr_Moussa), stated that Libya's membership in the Arab League had been suspended: "the organisation has decided to halt the participation of the Libyan delegations from all Arab League sessions". This makes Libya the second country in the League's history to have a frozen membership. Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi declared that the League was illegitimate, saying, "The Arab League is finished. There is no such thing as the Arab League".Secretaries-General (almost ALL Egyptian)
Abdul Rahman Azzam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Rahman_Hassan_Azzam) 1945 to 1952 (Egypt )
Abdul Khalek Hassouna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Khalek_Hassouna) 1952 to 1972 (Egypt )
Mahmoud Riad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Riad) 1972 to 1979 (Egypt )
Chedli Klibi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chedli_Klibi) 1979 to 1990 (Tunisia )
Ahmed Asmat Abdel-Meguid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Asmat_Abdel-Meguid) 1991 to 2001 (Egypt )
Amr Moussa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amr_Moussa) 2001 to 2011 (Egypt ) <==== New Egypt


Summits Held in Arab Cities (No Libya) Summits: Any in Libya? Nope
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Egypt.svg/22px-Flag_of_Egypt.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt) Cairo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Arab_League_summit_%28Cairo%29): 13–17 January 1964.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Egypt.svg/22px-Flag_of_Egypt.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt) Alexandria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria): 5–11 September 1964.
Casablanca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_Arab_League_summit): 13–17 September 1965.
Khartoum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Arab_League_summit): 29 August 1967.
Rabat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabat): 21–23 December 1969.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Egypt.svg/22px-Flag_of_Egypt.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt) Cairo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Arab_League_summit) (first emergency summit): 21–27 September 1970
Algiers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers): 26–28 November.1973.
Rabat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_Arab_League_summit): 29 October 1974.
Riyadh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Arab_League_summit_%28Riyadh%29) (2nd emergency summit): 17–28 October 1976.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Egypt.svg/22px-Flag_of_Egypt.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt) Cairo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Arab_League_summit_%28Cairo%29): 25–26 October 1976.
Baghdad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_Arab_League_summit): 2–5 November.1978.
Tunis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunis): 20–22 November 1979.
Amman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman): 21–22 November 1980.
Fes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fes): 6–9 September 1982.
Casablanca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca) (3rd emergency summit): 7–9 September 1985
Amman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman) (4th emergency summit): 8–12 November 1987.
Algiers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers) (5th emergency summit): 7–9 June 1988.
Casablanca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca) (6th emergency summit): 23–26 June 1989.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Flag_of_Iraq.svg/22px-Flag_of_Iraq.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq) Baghdad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad) (7th emergency summit): 28–30 March 1990.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Egypt.svg/22px-Flag_of_Egypt.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt) Cairo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo) (8th emergency summit): 9–10 August 1990
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Egypt.svg/22px-Flag_of_Egypt.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt) Cairo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo) (9th emergency summit): 22–23 June 1996.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Flag_of_Egypt.svg/22px-Flag_of_Egypt.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt) Cairo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo) (10th emergency summit): 21–22 October 2000.
Amman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman): 27–28 March 2001.
Beirut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Arab_League_summit): 27–28 March 2002.
Sharm el-Sheikh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharm_el-Sheikh): 1 March 2003.
Tunis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunis): 22–23 May 2004.
Algiers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algiers): 22–23 March 2005.
Khartoum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khartoum): 28–30 March 2006.
Riyadh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Arab_League_summit): 27–28 March 2007.
Damascus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Arab_League_summit): 29–30 March 2008.
Doha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Arab_League_summit): 28–30 March 2009.
Sirt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Arab_League_summit): 27-28 March 2010.
Baghdad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Arab_League_summit): Mar-Apr 2011. <==== American Zone (See the trend)

[acptulsa]

One of them--Cliton, iirc--said outright they're worried about Libyan refugees pouring into Egypt and destabilizing whatever that is that's taking it over.

[dean.engelhardt]

Here yeah go

Liebermann Says Libya Has Set Precedent For West Intervention: Sets Eyes On Syria And Yemen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB3RxHoW5Jw

Wow. There really is no difference between (R) and (D). The both want to blow every american dollar away in the middle east.

[acptulsa]

Wow. There really is no difference between (R) and (D). The both want to blow every american dollar away in the middle east.

As long as you're going to destroy the dollar--and everyone's savings bonds--anyway, why not go for broke?

[sailingaway]

This clip should be widely circulated to Dems and independents. There is no taste for more war.

[tpreitzel]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/152181-white-house-says-libya-decision-based-on-best-interests-in-region

"We don’t make decisions about questions like intervention based on consistency or precedent," said Denis McDonough, the administration's deputy national security adviser, amid an off-camera gaggle of reporters. "We make them based on how we can best advance our interests in the region."


Obviously, this administration (or any) doesn't base it's decision to use military force on the US Constitution, either. Clearly, very clearly, it's time for impeachment of Mr. Obama.

[Stary Hickory]

And so when our country attacks us? Hes got our backs right?

[acptulsa]

And so when our country attacks us? Hes got our backs right?

Sure. He's a Democrat and he loves us.

Just ask a Branch Davidian. If you can find one.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Sure. He's a Democrat and he loves us.

Just ask a Branch Davidian. If you can find one.

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