HuffPo tries to say Ron Paul is anti-teacher

[RileyE104]

Simply because he doesn't want government in education... :rolleyes:

hxxp://www.huffingtonpost.com/randy-turner/michelle-bachmann-ron-pau_b_840096.html

Someone should get over there ASAP and explain to these fools how being against government involvement with education doesn't mean he is against the teachers...

Apparently the author thinks Ron has it out for teachers, who are just doing their jobs.

I literally almost scratched my eyes out reading what the author wrote.. How can you equate not wanting government involvement in education to be the same as demonizing teachers?? :mad:


EDIT: When I say government in this post, I mean FEDERAL. Sorry for that accident. :)

[Flash]

"We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain."

-- Frederic Bastiat

[AuH20]

Public Ed zombies hate some Ron Paul.

[AGRP]

They didn't work in a racist angle? Shocking.

Solution? Don't go to Huffpost.

[acptulsa]

Well, tthis is patently untrue. Ron Paul, in particular*, is an educated man. He doesn't want to end education, he wants to get the people who brought you No Child Left Behind out of education so crap like that can't happen again.

There was education before the Department of Education was created c. 1980. Better education. I think it's safe to say that experiment failed. Let the states handle it. They did and they can again.


We'll see if they let it through the 'filter'.

[South Park Fan]

Typical example of classical conditioning. They've been so accustommed to having a government-run education system that any alternative is seen as opposing education.

[acptulsa]

Typical example of classical conditioning. They've been so accustommed to having a government-run education system that any alternative is seen as opposing education.

Combined, of course, with an intellectually lazy disregard for such 'details' as 'federal', 'state' and 'local'.

[Wren]

Sorry, but Ron Paul really had nothing more to offer than his party afiliation*.... it was the only thing that got him elected in a red state, besides having a famous name.

I think this guy is talking about Rand. :rolleyes:

[talkingpointes]

I used to have an account at huff po, (still do though inactive) rolling over from my short-lived days as a "liberal", when in reality I was just looking for a party to be serious about troop withdraw and common sense foreign policy. Although that was probably about 3 1/2 - 4 years ago I don't post there anymore. You will be shouted down and called all sorts of names, no matter how much logic you inject into the conversation. Hell even the "against me" argument crafted by Molyneux is worthless there, when someone enjoys the comforts of their shackles there is nothing you can say or do. Seriously, my wake up call was right after the 06' senator races and just the obvious nature they (dems) were not going to change anything, and I do mean -- ANYTHING. Even marijuana prohibition, gay-marriage, and individual rights, basically anything that they supposedly championed. Sad thing is they have an extremely well done facade, claiming to invite the intelligent, compassionate and thoughtful by having a wide array of popular blog posters. Which I later found out is nothing more than a ploy. Arriana Puffington must be laughing all the way to the bank, seriously. Also when you look into her history she used to be a shilling neo-con which is rule el numero un de huffington post. NEVER QUESTION ARRIANAS CREDENTIALS OR HISTORY.

[acptulsa]

I think this guy is talking about Rand. :rolleyes:

What? More details? :eek:

[NYgs23]

Once they figure out why they support separation of church and state, they will understand why we support the separation of school and state.

[JoshLowry]

Simply because he doesn't want government in education... :rolleyes:

Someone should get over there ASAP and explain to these fools how being against government involvement with education doesn't mean he is against the teachers...

Apparently the author thinks Ron has it out for teachers, who are just doing their jobs.

I literally almost scratched my eyes out reading what the author wrote.. How can you equate not wanting government involvement in education to be the same as demonizing teachers??

You are slightly misrepresenting his stance on this issue too. ;)

RP wants to return education to the state and local governments.

I think you could scare some of the less educated off if you told them that Ron's solution was to get all governments completely out of education. That's not the solution he would respond with if someone asked him what Congress should do to make our education system operate more efficiently.

You may not think it's necessary to be that specific here, but many guests who are not a part of the choir read your posts.

[RileyE104]

You are slightly misrepresenting his stance on this issue too. ;)

RP wants to return education to the state and local governments.

I think you could scare some of the less educated off if you told them that Ron's solution was to get all governments completely out of education. That's not the solution he would respond with if someone asked him what Congress should do to make our education system operate more efficiently.

You may not think it's necessary to be that specific here, but many guests who are not a part of the choir read your posts.

SORRY! I left out "federal" on accident. I guess reading the horrible article I linked to temporarily threw me off. :D

[dude58677]

Simply because he doesn't want government in education... :rolleyes:

hxxp://www.huffingtonpost.com/randy-turner/michelle-bachmann-ron-pau_b_840096.html

Someone should get over there ASAP and explain to these fools how being against government involvement with education doesn't mean he is against the teachers...

Apparently the author thinks Ron has it out for teachers, who are just doing their jobs.

I literally almost scratched my eyes out reading what the author wrote.. How can you equate not wanting government involvement in education to be the same as demonizing teachers?? :mad:


EDIT: When I say government in this post, I mean FEDERAL. Sorry for that accident. :)

All government should be out of education or at least run the government schools like community colleges, this way the coercion is taken out. Nobel Peace Prize winners hated school esp compulsory school as it interfered with their freedom:

http://learninfreedom.org/Nobel_hates_school.html

[ClayTrainor]

A bunch of economic illiterates at the Huff Po.

There's 2 ways to pay for teachers. Voluntary Contracts, or Involuntary Force. Guess what one the HuffPo thinks will be most effective?

[ClayTrainor]

You are slightly misrepresenting his stance on this issue too. ;)

RP wants to return education to the state and local governments.


I wonder if Ron thinks the states and local governments would do a better job than the market?

[low preference guy]

I wonder if Ron thinks the states and local governments would do a better job than the market?

I'm sure he thinks the market is better, but also that advocating for the states having the autonomy to do what they want is more likely to bring about that result.

[QueenB4Liberty]

So much fail in that article.

[acptulsa]

I wonder if Ron thinks the states and local governments would do a better job than the market?

No. He has said not. But getting Washington out of the act is what he considers his job, as U.S. Represenative, to be.

[talkingpointes]

So much fail in that article.

Considering the new parent company I wonder if there is going to be a change in the chain of the command and direction of the site. I would think so, because they need to cater to a wider base rather than being just a milder, and more grown-up version of the dailykos. The whole site is mainly fail, I cannot even peep around there anymore because the content is so loaded -it's infuriating.

[QueenB4Liberty]

Considering the new parent company I wonder if there is going to be a change in the chain of the command and direction of the site. I would think so, because they need to cater to a wider base rather than being just a milder, and more grown-up version of the dailykos. The whole site is mainly fail, I cannot even peep around there anymore because the content is so loaded -it's infuriating.

Yeah I can't stand the articles on that site either.

[JohnEngland]

"We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain."

-- Frederic Bastiat

I was thinking about this quote! Amazing how Bastiat, writing this over 150 years ago, could have been writing it for today. Technology changes, human nature doesn't.

[ClayTrainor]

I'm sure he thinks the market is better, but also that advocating for the states having the autonomy to do what they want is more likely to bring about that result.

Is the basic idea that, some state gov's may choose to allow a more free-market approach to education, if the Feds got out of the way?


No. He has said not. But getting Washington out of the act is what he considers his job, as U.S. Represenative, to be.

Yea, that sounds about right.