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doodle
03-23-2011, 11:36 PM
Rep. Dick Armey Calls for Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians
http://www.counterpunch.org/armey0502.html

FrankRep
03-23-2011, 11:51 PM
Doodle: Anyone who supports Israel is a Neocon. :rolleyes:




TRANSCRIPT Hardball with Chris Matthews (9:00 PM ET) - CNBC



CHRIS MATTHEWS, host: Congressman Dick Armey of Texas leads the Republicans in the US House of Representatives. Congressman Armey, Mr. Majority Leader, why is the Congress about to pass a resolution supporting Israel at a time that the president is trying to walk a line between Israel and its Arab neighbors?

Representative RICHARD ARMEY (Republican, Majority Leader): Well, we've had--we feel very strongly in the House of Representatives that we have a moral obligation to protect the safety, security and freedom of Israel. And the Congress wants to speak on that, both bodies want to do so. We've discussed it with the White House, and everybody is comfortable. We will go--go ahead with that tomorrow. It is very important to the world that Israel be--the freedom of Israel be protected and honored.

MATTHEWS: What good is this going to do anybody?

Rep. ARMEY: Well, I think, again, we--we want to make the point...

MATTHEWS: To whom?

Rep. ARMEY: The president of the United States is trying to make a transition in foreign policy from what it has been to what it must be in the future. We can no longer appease aggressors in the Middle East. There obviously will never be a peace. The goal is no Jews between them and the sea, and we must make it very clear that if you want to talk about peace and talk the talk, you must walk the walk, and that must be respect for Israel's right to live freely, safely and securely.

MATTHEWS: OK. Let's talk about the realities over there. There's a fight between the Arabs and the--and the Israelis over who owns the Pal--all of Palestine. Do you support the idea that there be a Palestine state alongside Israel?

Rep. ARMEY: I am perfectly content to have a Palestinian state alongside Israel if it is a state that honors others borders.

MATTHEWS: You are in total, 180 disagreement with Tom Delay who said this week that the entire West Bank belongs to Israel and it belongs to that country that's not an Arab country.

Rep. ARMEY: I...

MATTHEWS: It should not have a statehood.

Rep. ARMEY: No, I'm perfectly content to have a Palestinian state. I am not content to give up any part of Israel for that purpose of that Palestinian state.

MATTHEWS: Wait a minute. Tom Delay's, whose resolution you're going to put on the floor tomorrow and schedule, has said that the entire West Bank, he calls it Judean Samaria, belongs to Israel. How can you say that this resolution doesn't support the Delay position which is Israel has a right to grab the entire West Bank?

Rep. ARMEY: No, I--I'm content to have Israel grab the entire West Bank. I'm also content to have the Palestinians have a homeland and even for that to be somewhere near Israel, but I'm not content to see Israel give up land for the purpose of peace to the Palestinians who will not accept it and would not honor it. It is time to...

MATTHEWS: Well, where do you put the Palestinian state, in Norway? Once the Israelis take back the West Bank permanently and annex it, there's no place else for the Palestinians to have a state.

Rep. ARMEY: No, no, that's not--that's not at all true. There are many Arab nations that have many hundreds of thousands of acres of land and--and soil and property and opportunity to create a Palestinian state.

MATTHEWS: So you would transport--you would transport the Palestinians from Palestine to somewhere else and call it their state?

Rep. ARMEY: I would be perfectly content to have a homeland, just as--most of... MATTHEWS: But not in Palestine?

Rep. ARMEY: Most of the people who now populate Israel were transported from all over the world to that land and they made it their home. The Palestinians can do the same, and we're per--perfectly content to work with the Palestinians in doing that. We are not willing to sacrifice Israel for the notion of a Palestinian homeland.

MATTHEWS: Right, no. No, that's not the question and that's not your answer. The question here is: What is the future of the Palestinians who are fighting Israel right now? You say there future is somewhere besides Palestine. That runs in the way of US policy going back to 1948. It runs--it runs completely against the president's policy and every policy I've heard a president take, which is that Israel has to give up its settlements on the West Bank and give it back to the Arabs in exchange for peace. You say the deal should be the Palestinians leave?

Rep. ARMEY: That's right. Palestinians say the deal should be the Israel--that--that the Israelis leave.

MATTHEWS: Have you talked about this with the president? Rep. ARMEY: I happened to believe that the Palestinians should leave.

MATTHEWS: Have you ever told George Bush, the president from your home state of Texas, that you think the Palestinians should get up and go and leave Palestine and that's the solution?

Rep. ARMEY: I'm probably telling him that right now. This is...

MATTHEWS: Have you thought this through?

Rep. ARMEY: I have thought this through. I've thought it through for a lot of years. I believe that Israel is the state for the Jewish people. It needs to be honored. It needs to be protected.

MATTHEWS: Yeah. That's not what you're saying. You're saying Israel should expand its borders to the Jordan River...

Rep. ARMEY: No.

MATTHEWS: ...and kick out all the Palestinians? That's what you just said.

Rep. ARMEY: I am--I am content to have Israel occupy that land that it now occupies and to have those people who have been aggressors against Israel retired to some other arena, and I would be happy to have them make a home. I would be happy to have all of these Arab nations that have been so hell bent to drive Israel out of the Middle East to get together, find some land and make a home for the Palestinians. I think it can be done.

MATTHEWS: So the president, who has been dutifully, for the last couple of weeks, trying to get the Israeli army to withdraw from the West Bank, should stop that, let the Israeli defense force take over the West Bank and hold it and make it part of Israel? You completely disagree with the president's policy then?

Rep. ARMEY: I am--I am perfectly content to have Israel hold and occupy the land that it has at this moment.

MATTHEWS: Well, how about though-how about the Jenin in Samaria? Tom Delay, whose measure you're putting on the floor tomorrow, says that all the West Bank, Jenin, Judea, Masada, everything belongs to Israel. It's not occupied territory. It's Israeli. Is that your position?

Rep. ARMEY: Well, first of all, Chris, I think we have to be real careful on how you are interpreting jo--Tom's provision. I think Tom's provision is principally and primarily that the Jewish people have a right to defend themselves.

MATTHEWS: Well, just to repeat, you believe that the Palestinians who are now living on the West Bank should get out of there?

Rep. ARMEY: Yes.

MATTHEWS: OK. Thank you very much. More with Congressman Dick Armey coming back. You're watching HARDBALL.

doodle
03-24-2011, 12:10 AM
Doodle: Anyone who supports Israel is a Neocon. :rolleyes:



Frank, anyone who calls for native and legal residents of a land expelled from their homeland because of their race is a racial terriorist IMO. I'm not sure what DOJ position is on such terrorism. I just asked where is DOJ? I did not ask Holder or Obama to waterboard Dick Armey or such extremists.



Senior Republican calls on Israel to expel West Bank Arabs

The most senior Republican in the House of Representatives has called for Palestinians to be expelled from the West Bank, which should be annexed in its entirety by the state of Israel.

Dick Armey, majority leader in the House, shocked a primetime television audience when he said in a chat-show interview, that East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza - all occupied by the Israeli army since the 1967 war - should be considered a part of Israel proper. He was "content to have a Palestinian state", but argued that such an entity could be set up inside other Arab countries.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/may/04/israel3

I pray that G-d will have mercy on such a soul if Holder/DOJ did not prosecute his freedom of speech calling for ethnic cleansing.

Bosco Warden
03-24-2011, 12:45 AM
"Anyone who supports Israel is a Neocon."

The people or the Govt?

If they Support the people, NO , if they support the Govt = NeoCon YES.

Any questions?

Jack Bauer
03-24-2011, 02:09 AM
The people or the Govt?

If they Support the people, NO , if they support the Govt = NeoCon YES.

Any questions?

Wrong. That's not the definition of a neocon.

DXDoug
03-24-2011, 04:56 AM
wow that whole thing is almost to crazy to believe it was said. Realy realy did he just say that? Sumones job shuld b on the chopin block .

acptulsa
03-24-2011, 05:35 AM
wow that whole thing is almost to crazy to believe it was said. Realy realy did he just say that? Sumones job shuld b on the chopin block .

No, no 'just', this was a decade and a half or so ago. These are the responsible statements of the sitting Senate Majority Leader.


"I didn't know before I got there and they told me all this--that Rome had Senators. Now I know why it declined."--Will Rogers 1926

By the way--and I think it's an important point--he didn't promote ethnic cleansing. He promoted ethnic displacement. Big difference. The DOJ doesn't care about this sort of injustice, it allows you to watch them suffer longer, and if no one voluntarily displaces themselves to make room for your newly-created refugees, you have an excuse to start a war. See how much better this is?

FrankRep
03-24-2011, 05:54 AM
Frank, anyone who calls for native and legal residents of a land expelled from their homeland because of their race is a racial terriorist IMO. I'm not sure what DOJ position is on such terrorism. I just asked where is DOJ? I did not ask Holder or Obama to waterboard Dick Armey or such extremists.

Another day, another Palestinian terrorist attack. If Israel wanted to "Ethnic Cleanse" Gaza, it would have happened a long time ago.


Jerusalem Blast Kills 1, Injures 24 (http://www.newser.com/story/114789/bus-explodes-in-jerusalem-initial-reports-say-at-least-25-injured.html)


Mar 23, 2011



Today's bombing in Jerusalem has killed one woman and injured at least 24 other people, the AP reports. Police blamed Palestinian militants. The explosion happened near the main entrance to the city about 3pm local time and blew out the windows on two crowded buses. The lone fatality so far is a 60-year-old woman, though at least three of the injured are in critical condition.

Haaretz adds that the blast was outside the International Convention Center and across from the central bus station. No claims of responsibility have been issued so far, though tensions have been rising between Israel and Hamas militants after two years of relative calm; Jerusalem's last suicide bombing was in 2004, notes the BBC.

axiomata
03-24-2011, 05:57 AM
Just a little disingenuous to pull a quote from 9 years ago and not mention it is 9 years old.