Which Label Fits you Best?

[AlexMerced]

Trying to get an idea of the makeup of this forum

An-Caps, check out BlackYellowFree.com :)

[Wesker1982]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?282656-QUIZ!-***-What-kind-of-libertarian-are-you-***

[QueenB4Liberty]

rothbardian ancap.

[AlexMerced]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?282656-QUIZ!-***-What-kind-of-libertarian-are-you-***

If you take a look at the options in both threads, my options offer a little bit more broadness, that thread was more shades of libertarian grey which excludes conservatives and some of our protectionist friends on this forum

[Icymudpuppy]

Too many choices. I don't know what I am. Is there some test that I can take?

[CaseyJones]

labels do not stick to muppets
end up somewhere in our wake with fuzz on em

[acptulsa]

Half of the above and a contrarian, too. Too contrary, in fact, to play with data miners.

[muzzled dogg]

labels suck

[Aldanga]

Panarchist.

[dbill27]

labels suck

Individualist!

[Elwar]

I am part of the non-conformist group.

[newbitech]

my name doesn't fit me either.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Ray Liotta

http://images.bradspictures.com/bpictures/r/ray_liotta-16343.jpg

[acptulsa]

If you take a look at the options in both threads, my options offer a little bit more broadness, that thread was more shades of libertarian grey which excludes conservatives and some of our protectionist friends on this forum

Well, Charlie won't be tweeting you. You didn't include 'winner'.

[guitarlifter]

Theocrat, which happens to looks much like a libertarian because of what the Bible teaches.

[AlexMerced]

I'm pretty surprised that only 1 person chose conservative, and so many people chose voluntarist and individualist, that's a good sign.

[mport1]

Voluntaryist is my favorite of the terms for anarchy but the others work as well.

[BuddyRey]

<-- Voluntaryist

[heavenlyboy34]

I'm pleased to see the ranks of Voluntaryists seem to be swelling. :) :cool:

[heavenlyboy34]

Voluntaryist is my favorite of the terms for anarchy but the others work as well.

Voluntaryism isn't really anarchy (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism), but they have some things in common.

[Sola_Fide]

Theocrat, which happens to looks much like a libertarian because of what the Bible teaches.

Me too.

[realtonygoodwin]

Consitutionalist
Paleo-con
Liberty Lover
Minarchist


Too many choices!

[Sentient Void]

Too much overlap between the choices, IMO... I could pick at least 5 or 6 there confidently without question...

[Maximus]

I put Constitutionalist, while I really dislike government, I'm not ready to totally advocate no government. Let's get it downsized first and then downsize more is kinda my philosophy.

[heavenlyboy34]

Too much overlap between the choices, IMO... I could pick at least 5 or 6 there confidently without question...

I agree. :cool:

[McBell]

Market Anarchist.

[BamaAla]

Overwhelmed with choices; went with conservative.

[trey4sports]

Like to think of myself as a Ron-Paulian

[AlexMerced]

Positive Sign: No one Identifies with Republican or Freedom Fighter

[AlexMerced]

Too much overlap between the choices, IMO... I could pick at least 5 or 6 there confidently without question...

A lot of the terms mean the same thing, it's more about seeing which term people attach themsevles too most

[erowe1]

Theocrat, which happens to looks much like a libertarian because of what the Bible teaches.

That's a good catch. Something of the theocrat/Christian-reconstructionist/dominionist variety should be on that list. I don't think any of the labels there really fit that crowd too well.

I picked conservative. But I definitely mean biblical conservative, albeit not reconstructionism.

[Wesker1982]

Too much overlap between the choices, IMO... I could pick at least 5 or 6 there confidently without question...

Agreed. I chose anarcho-capitalist.



it's more about seeing which term people attach themsevles too most

It depends on who I am talking to. If I am talking to a person who will panic when they hear anarcho-anything, I will say voluntaryist, etc.

[ihsv]

None of the above :)

[ChaosControl]

The closest is probably voluntaryist.

I like it in that it is a little looser. In that it could encompass both someone who is anarcho-capitalist or someone who prefers more of a cooperative/communal lifestyle.
I support people being able to form their societies and villages in whichever form they want, be they communistic, socialistic, capitalistic, whatever, as long as everything is voluntary. No individual system is intrinsically more free than another, what makes one free is the lack of authoritarianism, or in other words voluntaryism.

I'm not quite the obsessive individualist as some and I don't have some kind of obscene hatred of all things collective. I think it takes a balance between the two. Anti-Authoritarian/Voluntary Communitarian is probably what I consider myself, but Voluntaryist can incorporate that.

[freshjiva]

This poll only divides us as fans of liberty and of Ron Paul.

[AlexMerced]

it doesn't divide us, I think we all realize people here while being on the same page that the current size of government is unsustainable although many of us disagree on how small government should be, the benefits of open trade and immigration, and other things.

Although this poll definetley tells me the Anarchist community is fully represented on this board, with a batch of conservatives and minarchists.

[pcosmar]

Several are close, but I have never really "fit" anywhere that can be "programmed, categorized, or easily referenced"....

[MelissaCato]

paleoconservative I think. I dunno. I disagree with the European heritage crap though.

Constitutionalist would be my second.

[erowe1]

This poll only divides us as fans of liberty and of Ron Paul.

So you're a fan of liberty and of Ron Paul. Got it.

[Beanie_N]

Yea I chose paleo-con although I'm more paleo-libertarian. I like Pat Buchanan although I'm not a fan of his position on protectionism/tariffs.

I also identify as a Republican just because I believe it is rightfully our party and the neocons stole it from us.

I wish there was a choice for CAPITALIST. That's really the only thing I one hundred percent identify with - free market, laissez-faire capitalism ala Mises, Hayek, etc. I think we should all be able to agree on that.

[Fredom101]

I fit into many of them, but I suppose voluntarist or voluntaryist is closest.
Good to see the high numbers of ancaps/voluntaryists here. Good ideas are spreading. :)

[ChaosControl]

I think we should all be able to agree on that.
Sorry, I don't. I agree that there can be a voluntary market place, but I don't always agree with a capitalist market. I do not think it is the necessary default of a voluntary society.

[Rishinfreakapotamus]

I chose Libertarian because it encapsulates so much I believe in, but in reality I suppose my main belief is in voluntarism.

[enoch150]

You forgot egoist-anarchist or whatever it is the douchebag calls himself.

[TroySmith]

Individualist. It's the root.

[erowe1]

Individualist. It's the root.

I'm not an individualist.

[One Last Battle!]

I suppose I am a Minarchist. I would be an Anarcho-Capitalist, but what other AnCaps seem to endorse (namely, an immediate change straight to Anarchism) strikes me as a massive waste, since it would just result in regular ol' chaotic anarchism. To get there, we should start with small government, cut it smaller and smaller over time, and then eventually leave the option for people to give Anarcho-Capitalism a try without burning our bridges behind us.

[hugolp]

The closest is probably voluntaryist.

I like it in that it is a little looser. In that it could encompass both someone who is anarcho-capitalist or someone who prefers more of a cooperative/communal lifestyle.
I support people being able to form their societies and villages in whichever form they want, be they communistic, socialistic, capitalistic, whatever, as long as everything is voluntary. No individual system is intrinsically more free than another, what makes one free is the lack of authoritarianism, or in other words voluntaryism.

I'm not quite the obsessive individualist as some and I don't have some kind of obscene hatred of all things collective. I think it takes a balance between the two. Anti-Authoritarian/Voluntary Communitarian is probably what I consider myself, but Voluntaryist can incorporate that.

I agree. Voluntarism is a well defined but still wide enough idea. Although, I have voted market anarchist because I like that term and I was expecting it to have less support than voluntarist.

But being individualist does not mean by default being against communitarian organizations. Being an individualist means respect for individual rights. Being an individualist and favoring communitarian organizations is fine.

[Wesker1982]

I would be an Anarcho-Capitalist, but what other AnCaps seem to endorse (namely, an immediate change straight to Anarchism) strikes me as a massive waste, since it would just result in regular ol' chaotic anarchism.

Have you read chapter 15?

http://mises.org/rothbard/newlibertywhole.asp

[Rothbardian Girl]

Voted market anarchist. I would consider myself in sort of a gray area philosophically at the moment, and of course, I haven't really researched any economic subjects faithfully yet, so I don't consider my ideas "complete" in a sense.

[ChaosControl]

But being individualist does not mean by default being against communitarian organizations. Being an individualist means respect for individual rights. Being an individualist and favoring communitarian organizations is fine.

Communitarianism is about balancing the rights of the individual with the rights of the society. Individualism is usually just about the rights of the individual. Collectivism is about just the rights of the society. To me Communitarianism seems like in between individualism and collectivism.

[hugolp]

Communitarianism is about balancing the rights of the individual with the rights of the society. Individualism is usually just about the rights of the individual. Collectivism is about just the rights of the society. To me Communitarianism seems like in between individualism and collectivism.

As I understand communitarism is about sharing property, funding co-ops... It has no contradiction with individualism. As I see it, its a personal choice inside individualism. You can form co-ops and shared solutions respecting individual rights.

Individualism is not going alone, it is respecting individual rights. How one choses to asociate is a different issue.

[robert68]

I voted anarcho-capitalist, but prefer for myself the term anarchist (or anarcho) libertarian, if one has to be picked.

[ChaosControl]

As I understand communitarism is about sharing property, funding co-ops... It has no contradiction with individualism. As I see it, its a personal choice inside individualism. You can form co-ops and shared solutions respecting individual rights.

Individualism is not going alone, it is respecting individual rights. How one choses to asociate is a different issue.

Well the type I favor is voluntary, yes. But it is still emphasizing an interdependence on one another, which actually has some ties to elements of collectivism. But it does still balance in rights of the individual and is voluntary, so it has ties to some elements of individualism as well. So I still see it as a balance between the two rather than either extreme. I dislike too much emphasis on self just as I dislike complete disregard for it as well.

[eduardo89]

Libertarian Constitutional Conservative for me...but that label's too long so just call me a real Conservative

[hugolp]

Well the type I favor is voluntary, yes. But it is still emphasizing an interdependence on one another, which actually has some ties to elements of collectivism. But it does still balance in rights of the individual and is voluntary, so it has ties to some elements of individualism as well. So I still see it as a balance between the two rather than either extreme. I dislike too much emphasis on self just as I dislike complete disregard for it as well.

I agree. I personally lean left and agree with much of what mutualists say, for example than in a free market there would be a lot more co-ops than in the present system, because they are an efficient way to opperate. But for me respect for individual rigths is the base upon which you can build communities and societies.

[AlexMerced]

I agree. I personally lean left and agree with much of what mutualists say, for example than in a free market there would be a lot more co-ops than in the present system, because they are an efficient way to opperate. But for me respect for individual rigths is the base upon which you can build communities and societies.

I'm pretty much in the same place these days

[ChaosControl]

I agree. I personally lean left and agree with much of what mutualists say, for example than in a free market there would be a lot more co-ops than in the present system, because they are an efficient way to opperate. But for me respect for individual rigths is the base upon which you can build communities and societies.

My views are quite a bit outside of any kind of "mainstream". If I weren't anti-authoritarian, they'd make me look authoritarian. I lean left economically, but right socially. So I want economic equality, I want community interdependence, I want self sustainability, environmental awareness, etc. I also want social conservatism, I like things like traditional gender roles, modesty, chastity, and other virtues to be promoted in society. Of course I want all of this in a community that wants these things, I don't want them to be forced on people because I don't want to be around people who only live that way because they are forced, I want to be around people who live that way because that is what they want and who they are.

I share the hatred for the federal government of people here, I share the anti-authoritarian sentiment. But otherwise I am polar opposite of the "libertarian" view point which is more left socially and right economically. But it does make for interesting discussions.

[AlexMerced]

My views are quite a bit outside of any kind of "mainstream". If I weren't anti-authoritarian, they'd make me look authoritarian. I lean left economically, but right socially. So I want economic equality, I want community interdependence, I want self sustainability, environmental awareness, etc. I also want social conservatism, I like things like traditional gender roles, modesty, chastity, and other virtues to be promoted in society. Of course I want all of this in a community that wants these things, I don't want them to be forced on people because I don't want to be around people who only live that way because they are forced, I want to be around people who live that way because that is what they want and who they are.

I share the hatred for the federal government of people here, I share the anti-authoritarian sentiment. But otherwise I am polar opposite of the "libertarian" view point which is more left socially and right economically. But it does make for interesting discussions.


Interesting, didn't know inverse-libertarianism existed, lol

[mport1]

Voluntaryism isn't really anarchy (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism), but they have some things in common.

How so? They seem the same to me.