Strikes In Libya Divides GOP, Puts Boehner In A Bind

[cswake]

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/strikes-in-libya-divides-gop-puts-boehner-in-a-bind.php


Freshmen House Republicans are already putting House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) in a bind over the budget, with a contingent of Tea Party-backed fiscal conservatives refusing to vote for any more continuing resolutions. Now a group of libertarian-leaning Republicans are balking at President Obama's missile strikes in Libya.

Republican Reps. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), Ron Paul (R-TX) and Justin Amash (R-MI) over the weekend objected to the President's decision to use military force to contain Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi, with some questioning the constitutionality of the operation and others opposing U.S military intervention in another Arab country because they aren't convinced that the U.S. has a clear national interest in the action.

"Unless there's a clear and present danger to the United States of America, I don't think you use U.S. forces in North Africa in what is the equivalent of a civil war,' Chaffetz told the Deseret News.

+rep for Chaffetz on doing the right thing. :cool:

[sailingaway]

Boehner in a bind.....awwwwwww.....

Weigel wrote about this too. Good for these guys.

[Matt Collins]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3017/2720797818_c201c812b3.jpg

[Vessol]

Boehner "Oh no, there is a new war..I love war..but a but a democrat is leading it..democrats are so evil..but I love war.."

[jmdrake]

Listening to talk radio, many neocon warhawks are either ambivalent about Lybia or hostile to the idea of intervening. I've heard many of them make the very arguments with regards to Lybia that Paul made about Iraq. In fact one today said that Lybians might be better off under a dictator than they would under whatever may come next. These are days of opportunity, if we know how to capitalize.

[Stary Hickory]

This is what I was hoping for some of the libertarian//tea party guys up there taking on the neocons. It's something at least.

[TheTyke]

Listening to talk radio, many neocon warhawks are either ambivalent about Lybia or hostile to the idea of intervening. I've heard many of them make the very arguments with regards to Lybia that Paul made about Iraq. In fact one today said that Lybians might be better off under a dictator than they would under whatever may come next. These are days of opportunity, if we know how to capitalize.

If they go all the way, and the "Right" ends up opposing the war+Obama... this could change the environment and remove Ron's biggest impediment to winning the Republican nomination. Could really be a game changer... interesting...

[FrankRep]

Boehner "Oh no, there is a new war..I love war..but a but a democrat is leading it..democrats are so evil..but I love war.."

If we can Impeach Obama, it'll set a precedent for punishing future war crimes.

[amy31416]

If we can Impeach Obama, it'll set a precedent for punishing future war crimes.

It'd be ironic as hell, but yeah--I'm all on board with that. The neocon GOP will want to impeach him for something stupid though, because they aren't stupid enough to impeach him for something that Bush (and any future candidate of theirs) is guilty of, or will be guilty of.

[specsaregood]

If we can Impeach Obama, it'll set a precedent for punishing future war crimes.

I know funny and that ^ right there is funny.

[Matt Collins]

http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/22/ron-paul-believes-libya-intervention-an-impeachable-offense/

[tekkierich]

http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/22/ron-paul-believes-libya-intervention-an-impeachable-offense/

The thing is, Biden agrees that a war without congressional authorization is an impeachable offense as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dRFJ6CF2Mw

Good thing we are not actually at war. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51767.html)

[Matt Collins]

The thing is, Biden agrees that a war without congressional authorization is an impeachable offense as well.
Damn good find, I'm spreading that everywhere!

[tekkierich]

Damn good find, I'm spreading that everywhere!


Please! I have been trying for about 30 hours now without much success. You should make sure you are not hiding my posts on facebook!

[tekkierich]

original post http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?284329-Biden-war-without-congressional-authorization-should-warrant-impeachment&highlight=biden

[Feeding the Abscess]

If they go all the way, and the "Right" ends up opposing the war+Obama... this could change the environment and remove Ron's biggest impediment to winning the Republican nomination. Could really be a game changer... interesting...

It won't. Republicans do this all the time. Many were against Clinton's foreign policy in the mid to late 90s. Look where that got us - nowhere.

Most Republicans are opposing because it's a Democrat in power. Nothing more, nothing less.

[AuH20]

It won't. Republicans do this all the time. Many were against Clinton's foreign policy in the mid to late 90s. Look where that got us - nowhere.

Most Republicans are opposing because it's a Democrat in power. Nothing more, nothing less.

But the environment has changed. The pain is being felt firsthand at home, thanks to the fraudulent government spending. This is the fourth country in less than a decade. This is madness. Any sane person can see this. I see some registered Republicans who are really re-examining this world policeman garbage they've been forcefed.

[nathanmn]

It'd be ironic as hell, but yeah--I'm all on board with that. The neocon GOP will want to impeach him for something stupid though, because they aren't stupid enough to impeach him for something that Bush (and any future candidate of theirs) is guilty of, or will be guilty of.

Bush didn't officially "declare war", but he at least got congressional approval. Obama didn't. To give the president the ability to bomb other nations without them attacking us and without congressional approval, which is basically starting an unprovoked war, completely voids the notion of separated powers and checks and balances. We need to attack Obama on this and hammer the point home as it is very important.

In the future the military shouldn't even follow orders like this without being informed of a congressional approval. Dictators can pick wars without the people's consent, in America we start our aggressive imperialist wars with the consent of congress.

[malkusm]

Boehner "Oh no, there is a new war..I love war..but a but a democrat is leading it..democrats are so evil..but I love war.."

This made me laugh.... +rep