Obama: "We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy."

[Philhelm]

So, if U.S. citizens were to rebel, I assume that he'd have all government forces stand down?

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Obama: "We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy."

U.S. federal government sure as hell did that between 1861-1865.

Lincoln = 620,000 Americans
Gaddafi = 1,000 Libyans (so far)

Still a lot of catching up to do.

[doodle]

Obama maybe a good obedient political slave of his puppet masters but he is increasingly logically incoherent.

Israel: The Jewish military has orders to show Gaza no mercy
Jan 8, 2010 ... Gaza, January 8, 2010 – A massive explosion took place few moments ago western Gaza City, in Tal Al Hawa neighborhood.
nwodaily.com/.../israel-the-jewish-military-has-orders-to-show-gaza-no-mercy-and-have-lanched-an-arial-assault-to-destroy-all-food-and-m..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeH0dsa4LJI

[Anti Federalist]

Obama: "We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy."

http://www.snubnose.info/images/HillaryClintononGuncontrol_123E/branch_davidian_compound_with_tanks3.jpg

[sailingaway]

We aren't in Dafur. We aren't any number of places the governments suck. We aren't God, nor the world's policemen, regardless of what Obama says.

I saw a new navy ad for recruitment. The slogan was "United States Navy. A global force for peace!!"

War is Peace -- 1984

[osan]

So, if U.S. citizens were to rebel, I assume that he'd have all government forces stand down?

Obama has turned out to be quite the war-mongering little bastard.

[awake]

I wonder who will have the higher body count in Libyan civilian deaths in this so called "Liberation"? Qaddafi or the Obama Empire? I am willing to bet it will be the Obama fronted military industries mob hands down.

I wonder where the media queens will be when this milestone is surpassed?

[QueenB4Liberty]

Obama has turned out to be quite the war-mongering little bastard.

Putting that peace prize to good use, I see.

[Philhelm]

I started a thread based on the following quote, but I think it needs to be repeated here:


http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Bara...ar_+_Peace.htm

Q: In what circumstances would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress?

A: The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action. As for the specific question about bombing suspected nuclear sites, I recently introduced S.J.Res.23, which states in part that “any offensive military action taken by the United States against Iran must be explicitly authorized by Congress.”

Source: Boston Globe questionnaire on Executive Power Dec 20, 2007

[newbitech]

Obama: "We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy."

http://www.snubnose.info/images/HillaryClintononGuncontrol_123E/branch_davidian_compound_with_tanks3.jpg

is that a Florida State Flag getting pummeled in the background?

http://wwp.greenwich-mean-time.eu/time-zone/usa/florida/images/state-flag-florida.jpg

[Philhelm]

New Spain?

http://static.newworldencyclopedia.org/thumb/d/dd/Flag_of_New_Spain.svg/800px-Flag_of_New_Spain.svg.png

[thasre]

Obama: "We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy."

http://www.snubnose.info/images/HillaryClintononGuncontrol_123E/branch_davidian_compound_with_tanks3.jpg

For the win.

[osan]

putting that peace prize to good use, i see.

bingo!

[nate895]

is that a Florida State Flag getting pummeled in the background?

http://wwp.greenwich-mean-time.eu/time-zone/usa/florida/images/state-flag-florida.jpg

Could be Alabama (or British Ireland, which looks the same as Alabama):

http://www.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/alabama/images/state-flag-alabama.jpg

[Matt Collins]

So, if U.S. citizens were to rebel, I assume that he'd have all government forces stand down?

Oh come on now. You aren't playing fair! Don't try to brainwash us with this logic and rationale crap. Why do you hate America?

[Philhelm]

We aren't any number of places the governments suck.

Well, "we" are in the U.S.
Oh snap!!!



We aren't God, nor the world's policemen, regardless of what Obama says.

Apparently we are the world's policemen. Stop resisting! Stop resisting! Stop resisting! :(



I saw a new navy ad for recruitment. The slogan was "United States Navy. A global force for peace!!"

War is Peace -- 1984

We're definitely there with the double-think. I still think that Obama's Nobel Peace Prize takes the cake though.

[Philhelm]

Putting that peace prize to good use, I see.

Technically, it's not really Obama's fault; a sociopath can't help but to do such things.

[Anti Federalist]

Apparently we are the world's policemen. Stop resisting! Stop resisting! Stop resisting!

"This is not an assault! This is not an assault!" - What the ATF was saying as those tanks rammed the church buildings on the last day.

[Vessol]

Obama: "We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy."

http://www.snubnose.info/images/HillaryClintononGuncontrol_123E/branch_davidian_compound_with_tanks3.jpg

Is that when the ATF attacked the Branch Davidians??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSJyJOsxUMQ

[Anti Federalist]

Is that when the ATF attacked the Branch Davidians??

Yes.

All the while, loudspeakers at the perimeter were screaming, "This is not an assault!"

[Vessol]

Yes.

All the while, loudspeakers at the perimeter were screaming, "This is not an assault!"

I always liked how they said that they only fired tear gas and the Branch Davidians started the fire..while footage is being shot of a tank with a fucking flamethrower ramming into the building.

[Pauls' Revere]

Obama has turned out to be quite the war-mongering little bastard.

with a Nobel Peace Prize! WTF

[Pauls' Revere]

I'm waiting for the people of Yemen to cry out for help. Are we to respond in kind there as well?

[Carson]

So, if U.S. citizens were to rebel, I assume that he'd have all government forces stand down?


I suppose that would depend on which group of people were rebelling.

If it was the preferred residents like the illegal aliens and the new legal immigrants they will be all over it with the sugar and spice.

If it is the conquered residence there will be hell to pay.

It is obvious, and should have been for some time, the military is no longer the military of our country but the tool of the new world order. Congress hasn't had any control of them in decades.

P.S. Notice the navy's new global navy commercial? "A global force for good"

[Vessol]

I'm waiting for the people of Yemen to cry out for help. Are we to respond in kind there as well?

No, the Yemen government is loyal to us. If anything the current regime will be removed while a another loyal regime is put into place like in Egypt.

[Stary Hickory]

So, if U.S. citizens were to rebel, I assume that he'd have all government forces stand down?

No because then you would be deemed terrorists by the DHS and there is no mercy for terrorists....we don't negotiate with terrorists.

[Philhelm]

No because then you would be deemed terrorists by the DHS and there is no mercy for terrorists....we don't negotiate with terrorists.

So, would the U.N. wish to intervene in order to protect Americans from the government? Or should I take your comment as a resounding no? ;)

[Anti Federalist]

For the benefit of the youngsters.

19 April 1993.

ATF and FBI combined in a raid of the Branch Davidian church in Waco, Texas.

80 men, women and children were incinerated in a blaze that contained toxic hydrogen cyanide, a by product when heated, of the CS gas that the government had been pumping into the building all morning.

Once the fires started, (very credible evidence suggests that government started those fires) the building, wrecked by tanks over the days before, quickly starting burning in the dry Texas wind.

And in a action that made me sick to my stomach when I first saw it, federal agents leveled automatic weapons fire on the people trying to escape by running out of the back of the building.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLXhmPuBmd4&playnext=1&list=PL72277E9CCE59609C

By blocking the escape of people with withering gunfire this was the result:

http://www.wiolawapress.com/children/children_shari_copy.jpg

It was this incident that snapped me out of my "standard republican" slumber and made me realize my government had declared war on me.

Indeed, on all of us.

We're all Branch Davidians now.

[Philhelm]

Anti Federalist: I recall a clip in which a couple of agents were saying that nobody was going to escape the compound alive. I think it was in "Rules of Engagement." Do you happen to remember which part of the film that was in?

[Philhelm]

For the benefit of the youngsters.

19 April 1993.

ATF and FBI combined in a raid of the Branch Davidian church in Waco, Texas.

80 men, women and children were incinerated in a blaze that contained toxic hydrogen cyanide, a by product when heated, of the CS gas that the government had been pumping into the building all morning.

Once the fires started, (very credible evidence suggests that government started those fires) the building, wrecked by tanks over the days before, quickly starting burning in the dry Texas wind.

And in a action that made me sick to my stomach when I first saw it, federal agents leveled automatic weapons fire on the people trying to escape by running out of the back of the building.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLXhmPuBmd4&playnext=1&list=PL72277E9CCE59609C

By blocking the escape of people with withering gunfire this was the result:

http://www.wiolawapress.com/children/children_shari_copy.jpg

It was this incident that snapped me out of my "standard republican" slumber and made me realize my government had declared war on me.

Indeed, on all of us.

We're all Branch Davidians now.

I guess that answers the title question. It was interesting that Louis Farrakhan had mentioned Waco, and the hypocrisy of our government.

[Anti Federalist]

Anti Federalist: I recall a clip in which a couple of agents were saying that nobody was going to escape the compound alive. I think it was in "Rules of Engagement." Do you happen to remember which part of the film that was in?

Yes, it was, although it's been years since I watched the entire film, so I can't say for sure when in the film that is.

IIRC it was toward the end during the congressional testimony.

They made sure of that didn't they?

Let me repeat:

Federal agents leveled automatic weapons fire on the people trying to escape.


I guess that answers the title question. It was interesting that Louis Farrakhan had mentioned Waco, and the hypocrisy of our government.

It sure does...it sure does.

[Philhelm]

It sure does...it sure does.

Admittedly, I was doing a bit of trolling with my rhetorical question. lulz! I would love for a reporter to ask the question though.

[Anti Federalist]

Admittedly, I was doing a bit of trolling with my rhetorical question. lulz! I would love for a reporter to ask the question though.

Never happen.

Reporters are no longer allowed to ask real questions, or they will lose their job and press credentials.

Just ask Helen Thomas.

Only pre approved, pre rehearsed "spontaneous" questions are allowed.

[Philhelm]

Never happen.

Reporters are no longer allowed to ask real questions, or they will lose their job and press credentials.

Just ask Helen Thomas.

Only pre approved, pre rehearsed "spontaneous" questions are allowed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APUhVXImUhc

[Anti Federalist]

Are you serious, Mundane?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APUhVXImUhc

[Philhelm]

Are you serious, Mundane?

No sir; I know what they do to people who are serious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV6Bq8xeQrU&feature=player_embedded

[Matt Collins]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R325K6alVlA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-qm9U3X3EU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQzEUVOm4CU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5LbxRaVxik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vmB5DpHLLo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcvSmLaolr8

[AFPVet]

Press credentials... seriously lol. Technically anyone who wants to investigate a story to sell to a paper is considered to be press. I think that press passes/credentials are just one of those things that the establishment can use to control....

[Philhelm]

Press credentials... seriously lol. Technically anyone who wants to investigate a story to sell to a paper is considered to be press. I think that press passes/credentials are just one of those things that the establishment can use to control....

No doubt. To take it one step further, our whole system of credentialism is used for control.