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nathanielyao
10-24-2007, 11:26 AM
Status of TeaParty07.com:

www.TeaParty07.com is live!

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Youtube Videos for TeaParty07

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=34830

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Graphics for TeaParty07

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=34871

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T-shirts for TeaParty07

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=34010

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Here is the wiki about this historic day:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

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History of TeaParty07.com

Coming Soon...

Just go ahead and read through this thread and the subform to get an idea...

NinjaPirate
10-24-2007, 11:29 AM
I was going to ask SwordofShannara to set this up since he did a fantastic job with the other site.

nathanielyao
10-24-2007, 11:31 AM
..

d_goddard
10-24-2007, 11:32 AM
On a related note:
http://nhteaparty.org

Secret cabal of conspirators.

asdf
10-24-2007, 11:39 AM
On an unrelated note

http://teapartay.com/

NinjaPirate
10-24-2007, 11:43 AM
On a related note:
http://nhteaparty.org

Secret cabal of conspirators.

:rolleyes:

nathanielyao
10-24-2007, 12:14 PM
Bump, trying to keep tea party threads together

DeadheadForPaul
10-24-2007, 12:16 PM
Sword did Nov 5 and TechnoRob did Nov 11

Im sure one of them can hook it up

nathanielyao
10-24-2007, 01:19 PM
TeaParty07.com is online now with a temporary page. Just waiting for someone who can develop it further. I have no skills whatsoever as you can see from the temp page.

tfelice
10-24-2007, 01:24 PM
Let me see if I can photoshop something together. If anyone can find a large image that is in public domain that would be helpful

tfelice
10-24-2007, 01:25 PM
I should have looked at wiki first. This looks to be public domain at first glance, can anyone confirm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Boston_tea_party.jpg

Madison
10-24-2007, 01:28 PM
Now THIS is a good idea.

December 16 is a MUCH better date for a money bomb than November the 5th.

But what the hell, I'll still donate on both days.

mdh
10-24-2007, 01:35 PM
Let me know if you need free secure hosting. Toss me a private message or an email.

NinjaPirate
10-24-2007, 01:39 PM
On a related note:
http://nhteaparty.org

Secret cabal of conspirators.


I should have looked at wiki first. This looks to be public domain at first glance, can anyone confirm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Boston_tea_party.jpg

From what I read, it can be used by anyone in the public.

from the link you referenced:

This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. The description on its description page there is shown below. Commons is a freely licensed media file repository.

Commons Welcome Page
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Welcome

Commons Licensing
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing

...The Wikimedia Commons accepts only free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose [1]

spivey378
10-24-2007, 01:42 PM
http://it.hule.harryda.se/itda05/vikhan/Engelska/800px-Boston_tea_party.jpg


decent pic......

constituent
10-24-2007, 01:55 PM
You've Got Press (http://www.ronpaulnation.com/?p=278)


can i get a digg?

nathanielyao
10-24-2007, 02:04 PM
I though this quote would be good...

"Excessive taxation… will carry reason and reflection to every man's door, and particularly in the hour of election."

--Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Taylor, 1798

tfelice
10-24-2007, 02:32 PM
I'll have something mocked up in about 10 mins.

tfelice
10-24-2007, 03:10 PM
Mock up. Needs some work, but if anyone likes it and wants to run with it I can send the files.

http://www.palmyratrading.com/ronpaul

BTW the form doesn't work. It's just there for a place holder.

saku39
10-24-2007, 03:13 PM
I'm cool with this. :)

This is a great idea.

I'm putting money in on Nov 11th and will totally be down for putting more in on Dec 16th.

goldstandard
10-24-2007, 03:21 PM
Cool idea. If you need a header design I will gladly volunteer...

tfelice
10-24-2007, 03:34 PM
Cool idea. If you need a header design I will gladly volunteer...

If you like what I mocked up, let me know and I can zip up the files for you. I cannot host it as I cannot take the bandwidth hit it may cause. I have client's sites on my server - too much to risk if they go down.

NinjaPirate
10-24-2007, 04:09 PM
You've Got Press (http://www.ronpaulnation.com/?p=278)


can i get a digg?

Dugg!

SwordOfShannarah
10-24-2007, 04:42 PM
If I can help I certainly will- but I'm swamped until the 5th! After that I'm in. :D

constituent
10-24-2007, 04:45 PM
Dugg!

thank you.

ItsTime
10-24-2007, 04:56 PM
Nice job!


Mock up. Needs some work, but if anyone likes it and wants to run with it I can send the files.

http://www.palmyratrading.com/ronpaul

BTW the form doesn't work. It's just there for a place holder.

tfelice
10-24-2007, 05:07 PM
Nice job!

Thanks, but I am sure there is someone with better skills. My web design skills peaked about 8 years ago, there's a lot of new things that I am not familiar with.

But if anyone wants to use that I can zip it up for them, and they can make the modifications to it as they see fit. I was thinking that in place of the video I have on there (which BTW I think is the finest one out there), maybe we can use the same video, but modify it with a Boston Tea Party picture and using a voice over of the text as I have on the site now (or something similar). Again this is something I do not know how to do myself, but I am sure there are others that can take it on.

nathanielyao
10-24-2007, 05:10 PM
The files by tfelice are now on www.teaparty07.com for people to grab and download and modify.

tfelice
10-24-2007, 05:34 PM
If I can help I certainly will- but I'm swamped until the 5th! After that I'm in. :D


Glad to hear that. You did a good job getting the traffic into your site. I am sure you can do the same. I can't commit to it because of time constraints.

I was thinking if you, or someone else, can modify that YouTube video I have up there to include the pitch about the Tea Party at the top of the page. There's a good image of the tea party here (http://dc-mrg.english.ucsb.edu/WarnerTeach/E172/images/Boston.tea.party.1746.jpg). I have seen this image scattered on various sites, so I am guessing its in the public domain.

tfelice
10-24-2007, 05:35 PM
The files by tfelice are now on www.teaparty07.com for people to grab and download and modify.


Did you upload the PSD file to your server?

tfelice
10-24-2007, 05:38 PM
One last thing. The font for the header is called Ringbearer.

http://www.dafont.com/ringbearer.font?nb_ppp=50

ShawnC
10-24-2007, 05:44 PM
I donnu if you guys have found someone to code this, but i can donation some of my free time as i have it to help, I am a advanced web developer but don't like doing designs. But if your intersted just let me know, some of my prior sites done can be found on my home page link in my sig.

nathanielyao
10-24-2007, 07:11 PM
Bump for the people coming home on the West Coast

brumans
10-24-2007, 08:12 PM
Looks awesome!

Keep on working on it and we can advertise the hell out of it after November 11th. We'll have over a month to get tons of pledges.

slantedview
10-24-2007, 08:46 PM
Looks good. I'm assuming the same database setup and code can be used for the actual pledges... is this setup yet?

McDermit
10-24-2007, 09:42 PM
Through, not thru.

Paul4Prez
10-24-2007, 10:27 PM
The more money bombs the better.

What about combining December 15th (Bill of Rights Day) with December 16th (Boston Tea Party) for a 48-hour money bomb? Is that idea still on?

Other money bomb days:

October 25th, because October 24th was sorry. How about making it a "Take that, RedState day?"

October 30th, for Jay Leno/end of month surge

November 5th, for November 5th

November 11th, for Veterans Day

work2win
10-24-2007, 11:15 PM
Awesome! Great symbol, and enough time past Nov's events to let people "recharge."

Even the initial site prototype rocks!

nathanielyao
10-25-2007, 06:33 AM
If I can help I certainly will- but I'm swamped until the 5th! After that I'm in. :D

Thanks for your help SwordOfShannarah,

Thank also to TechnoGuyROb, tfelice, mdh, goldstandard, and ShawnC for offering their skills and resources.

Let's pick this thread up again after the Nov 5th money bomb so that we will have it ready immediately after the Nov. 11th money bomb.
We should have a good base of donors from both moneybombs to start out the Tea Party money bomb if we can combine both lists.

For now everybody push the November money bombs.

NinjaPirate
10-25-2007, 07:32 AM
Looks awesome!

Keep on working on it and we can advertise the hell out of it after November 11th. We'll have over a month to get tons of pledges.

Actually, it'll be better to advertise it ASAP that way it can get to a much bigger crowd. The sooner we advertise this, the better!

NinjaPirate
10-25-2007, 10:42 AM
I wish I knew web design. The furthest I've got is basic HTML from YEARS ago. :(

Anyways, BUMP.

Edit: Wtf, why did i quote myself?

NinjaPirate
10-25-2007, 03:14 PM
yarr!

ItsTime
10-25-2007, 04:54 PM
lookin good

NinjaPirate
10-25-2007, 05:02 PM
Start advertising it!!

SewrRatt
10-25-2007, 05:10 PM
Great idea.

The Ron Paul Tea Party: An historic event in which revolutionaries dumped thousands of tons of dollars into Ron Paul's bank account.

Naysayers will point out the tea at the Boston Tea Party was stolen, and that the media will say we are promoting grand larceny. :rolleyes:

nathanielyao
10-27-2007, 01:59 PM
Update!

Was able to contact Liv (aka Ron Paul Girl), and she will be adding a Boston Tea Party element to her thisnovember5th video so that it can also be used for teaparty07, Whoo hoo!

nathanielyao
11-05-2007, 09:21 PM
Hey Guys,

This has been an awesome day. November 11th is next! While that is going on, we will be working on teaparty07, to let all the new supporters that we will be gaining from the success of November 5th in on another historic event!

Nathaniel

Chaos Unlimited
11-05-2007, 09:26 PM
"DON'T STEAL - The government hates competition"

tack that onto tea party marketing.

nathanielyao
11-05-2007, 10:13 PM
There are a bunch of different things that will be going on during teaparty07, here is another:


Hey, I need your help about the Tea Party 07 website.

Some of the meetup groups are confused about the actual real campaigning planned for 12/16 and this money bomb. I think we need to get this clarified.

Could we make sure whenever we mention one we also mention the other? I'd definitely be willing to do this. Also would it be possible to put the following info on the Tea Party 07 website?:
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The Ron Paul Creative Force Meetup Group (http://ronpaul.meetup.com/1131/) is organizing a national grassroots event on December 16 to commemorate the Boston Tea Party!

Ron Paul supporters will be out in force to hand out symbolic tea packets to holiday shoppers and share Dr. Paul's message of restoring the Constitution. Click here to learn more: http://dailypaul.com/node/5333
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Thanks.

Ron

bomybomy
11-05-2007, 10:21 PM
- REQUEST -

Unlike Nov5th.com, which just tracked those who were pledged, I think it would be a more motivating force to have a running counter of total pledges!

Let people enter their credentials, and then let them pick an amount in increments of $50, starting at $100.

Then, let the counter on the website count both pledgees and total dollar volume of pledges.

I think if anyone truly expected $3.8M in 1 day, there would have been even more excitement than there was. If we rigged the sight this way, I think the momentum and excitement would snowball for Dec. 16th

Austin
11-05-2007, 10:32 PM
I really like TechnoRob's design, we should talk to him about designing this one. It looks pretty good right now, but it isn't worth 10 million just yet. ;)

Richandler
11-05-2007, 10:33 PM
So is the Tea Party Going to have MONEY BREW!!!!

rebelforacause
11-05-2007, 10:48 PM
Great idea for a tea party. My daughters friends dad had the same idea and we were talking about San Francisco. If you guys are for real we will do it there.
BTW he had an idea to have a projector show the video of celebrities reading the declaration of Independence on the side of a building during peak traffic then have an AM radio station broadcast the words from the video at
www.supportthetruth.org

LBT
11-05-2007, 11:01 PM
Boston Tea Party Bomb is a great idea.

I think 10 million in 1 day, to break all records is achievable if this is marketed well.

An idea is for meetup groups around the world to get together on this day to donate, watch coverage online, listen to RonPaulRadio.com coverage, watch V perhaps, and most of all PARTY.

I'll organize a party for our Australian Melbourne Meetup group for Dec 16 if this thing starts to go viral as I suspect it will.

stalcottsmith
11-05-2007, 11:12 PM
http://www.bostonsonthebeach.com/index_bob.php

qwerty
11-06-2007, 12:51 AM
We must spread this HARDER!

pazzo83
11-06-2007, 12:52 AM
Best. Idea. Ever. I do web development/design, I can offer my help to this endeavor as well.

qwerty
11-06-2007, 12:58 AM
WE SHOULD START SPREADING THE IDEA NOW!


:cool:

James R
11-06-2007, 01:15 AM
Regarding the Tea Party, have you considered how much this event will drive a wedge between our friendship with Britain? 237 years later and you still want to rub salt in the wound?

wfd40
11-06-2007, 01:30 AM
not to be that guy.. but teaparty07.com doesn't quite have the same "magnitude" as thisnovember5th.com

Thoughts??

american.swan
11-06-2007, 01:36 AM
I agree with this effort. Let's get it done...lets get this on a strong enough server and start the effort...

James R
11-06-2007, 01:42 AM
not to be that guy.. but teaparty07.com doesn't quite have the same "magnitude" as thisnovember5th.com

Thoughts??

I agree that a tea party sounds horribly boring. But, what else would it be called? I know, the T party. If you spell anything differently it becomes cooler and more exciting.

EDIT: Okay, how about the Mr. T Party? If Mr. T is still alive we can invite him for a speech.

adpierce
11-06-2007, 01:44 AM
Regarding the Tea Party, have you considered how much this event will drive a wedge between our friendship with Britain? 237 years later and you still want to rub salt in the wound?

Has anyone considered the irony of this event? The fact is that by electing Ron Paul we as a nation will be reigning in our interventionist and imperialist policies towards the rest of the world. Consider this, that the United States was the first nation in the world to throw off the interventionism and imperialism of Great Britain. We're not throwing salt in the wound of Britain, we're acknowledging that we have become like she used to be, and thankfully is not anymore (at least no where near the degree as it was). The election of Ron Paul to the presidency will as pivotal a moment as this nation has ever had. An earthquake will shake this nation to it's foundations, much like the Boston Tea Party did. With one notable difference, we're reforming our system from the inside. We don't need to resort to violent destructive measures to accomplish this. The ideas are more powerful than guns or even the overturning of barrels into a harbor. We will rise up in December and do something our forefathers would be proud of us for. We will have shaken from government the hold of an imperialist, and interventionist nation bent on squeezing resources from people whom those resources rightfully belong. Hold your head up high Paulites, and hold true to the founding principles which wrought your nation into being.

SwordOfShannarah
11-06-2007, 01:55 AM
what do you think of this approach?

Domain Name:

AmericanFiatParty.com OR
TheAmericanFiatParty.com OR keep
TeaParty07.com


Intro:

On December 16th, 1773 American colonists dumped tea into the Boston Harbor to protest an illegal and oppressive tax. This December 16th American citizens will dump fiat currency into the Ron Paul campaign to protest the illegal and oppressive inflation tax and the unconstitutional "Federal Reserve System".

Please join us for the single largest... etc.

jmhelms
11-06-2007, 01:57 AM
I started Facebook's Tea Party 07 and secured teaparty07@gmail.com I would like to contact teaparty07.com and integrate the sites for maximum communication. Who should I talk to?

James R
11-06-2007, 02:13 AM
I started Facebook's Tea Party 07 and secured teaparty07@gmail.com I would like to contact teaparty07.com and integrate the sites for maximum communication. Who should I talk to?

You should also secure Tparty07@gmail.com & T Party 07 on Facebook. Tea is a very uncool thing in America. But T is cool... I've researched this. Mr. T is still alive and he should be invited to our T party! T... because Tea is not cool.

Chester Copperpot
11-06-2007, 02:24 AM
I agree that a tea party sounds horribly boring. But, what else would it be called? I know, the T party. If you spell anything differently it becomes cooler and more exciting.

EDIT: Okay, how about the Mr. T Party? If Mr. T is still alive we can invite him for a speech.

Mr. T: "I pity the fool who doesnt vote for Dr. Paul!"

ckls
11-06-2007, 02:50 AM
We have to come up with something creative on this day!

The Boston Tea Party was an act of protest by the American colonists against Great Britain in which they destroyed many crates of tea bricks on ships in Boston Harbor. The incident, which took place on Thursday, December 16, 1773, has been seen as helping to spark the American Revolution.

It has to be more then a Internet fund raiser ... right before Iowa caucus's and NH primaries? Let's THINK about what we could do on this date.

Madison
11-06-2007, 02:50 AM
TeaParty07.com

Intro is perfect as it is, please don't change it.

literatim
11-06-2007, 02:52 AM
How about something like dumpthetea.com ?

rs3515
11-06-2007, 02:52 AM
It has to be more then a Internet fund raiser ... right before Iowa caucus's and NH primaries? Let's THINK about what we could do on this date.

We already have something going on. It is the national Boston Tea Party Commemoration Event. Mentioned on www.TeaParty07.com and you can read all the details here: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/5333

wfd40
11-06-2007, 03:05 AM
i dunno guys... thisnovember5th.com reads amazingly well in articles and what not.

teapart07.com - not so much.

Now, I'm not saying its awful or anything.. just saying that with the date and theme/reason set, why not try going for another "out of the park" type .com name??

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 03:13 AM
234years.com
234yearsago.com
234yearslater.com

I honestly think a little mystery to the meaning of the website name will garner more clicks.

Almost like the first line of a story to tell - immediately engages the reader with content that will inspire the very meaning of Dr. Pauls message - change and resistance to the status quo.

Thoughts?

Richandler
11-06-2007, 03:15 AM
Random idea. How about leaving handouts and such in the tea isle of grocery stores and such. It's sort of a viral campaign idea. It could simply say teaparty07.com.

literatim
11-06-2007, 03:18 AM
i dunno guys... thisnovember5th.com reads amazingly well in articles and what not.

teapart07.com - not so much.

Now, I'm not saying its awful or anything.. just saying that with the date and theme/reason set, why not try going for another "out of the park" type .com name??

Well I suggest something more action oriented or mysterious. thisnovember5th.com was mysterious. It was also good because it had the date in its name.

To go with action I suggested something similar to dumpthetea.com (which seems to be registered already).

Make the name and slogan related to the Boston Tea Party, but without 'Boston Tea Party' or 'Tea Party' in the name itself. Another thing we can draw on are the Sons of Liberty whom were responsible.

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 03:19 AM
I think teabags with a simple "234yearsago.com" on both sides would be better at creating buzz and, like I said earlier - adds a little mystery that will draw the curious. Even make 234yearsago.com jump to 234yearsago.teaparty07.com would be good - but I really believe, as do others, a better hook than TeaParty07.com is possible.

wfd40
11-06-2007, 03:21 AM
How about something like dumpthetea.com ?


He shoots, he scoreessss!

edit: nevermind, its taken.

getting warmer though :)

www.thisdecember16th.com

lol??

literatim
11-06-2007, 03:25 AM
Just gotta remember, mysterious and action is an excellent draw for anything that is purely virally spread around. A boring name like teaparty07.com sounds bland and won't catch on. You also need a slogan which could be something like "Dump the Tea December 16th."


colortheseatea.com

wfd40
11-06-2007, 03:31 AM
i'm picking up what you're putting down literatim ;)

teaparty07.com , while cool/awesome because it help to get the movement going, should not be our final choice.

literatim
11-06-2007, 03:39 AM
Aspects of the Boston Tea Party
-Known for being a major spark that started the American Revolution
-Sons of Liberty thinly disguised themselves as Mohawk Indians.
-Tea washed up on Boston shores for weeks following.

Ozwest
11-06-2007, 03:43 AM
A suggestion (probably sucks)... When the committee headed towards the wharf, they murmered "Let every man do his duty, and be true to his country"... What if you used the phrase "Let every man do his duty". My 2 cents.

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 03:50 AM
To illustrate what I was talking about - I whipped this up a few minutes ago - still very crude, but gets the idea across that I was talking about...

234 years ago...

In 1773 in the harbor at the City of Boston
45 tons of tea were dumped overboard in protest.

On that 16th day of the
12th month the band of patriots on those
3 ships sparked a revolution that led to
1 great country.

On the 16th day of this
12th month a new band of patriots hope to raise
8 million dollars for the Ron Paul Campaign and spark a new
R3volution where the individual is once again treated as
1 who can make a difference.

"Let every man do his duty, and be true to his country"

Donate at www.RonPaul2008.com

EDIT: I'm a fan of a more mysterious website name like I siggested - 234yearsago.com which could simply jump to 234yearsago.teaparty07.com

reaver
11-06-2007, 04:58 AM
We need a hook.

Here's the angle I'm looking at- Law of the Sea Treaty 2007 = Townshend Act 1767

The Boston Tea Party is when the colonies woke up and started to demand sovereignty. Today we are faced with the same battle for sovereignty; The Law of the Sea Treaty, if passed, would have Americans paying taxes for using the ocean.

Anyone know the treaty well?

With a little group effort we could come up with a viral hook.

akalucas
11-06-2007, 05:07 AM
how about naming it Sons of Libertea.

a play on the words on the name of the organization that brought about the tea party "Sons of Liberty". Some of the people that were in this organization were Paul Revere, Patrick Henry, John Hancock, John Adams, and his cousin, Samuel Adams.

just to visualize it. www.SonsofLiberTea.com

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 05:39 AM
Anyone else have ideas for a hook into www.teaparty07.com? I really think we can do better for a hook to get people on the website. I think a concerted effort to draw peoples curiosity would be hand stamped or printed teabags with the web hook on it. Im sure we could develop a food-safe ink to stamp on tea bags and just leave them around in coffee houses, at work, places of business where people tend to stand waiting (DMV, hospitals, auto repair chains, etc.). Send boxes of them to news networks - all sorts of ways to get it moving through communities. In fact, we could do it in waves of support ideas...

any more being developed..? Brainstorming going on anywhere..? I also think some thought should be given to what demographic we want to attract. I would hazard a guess that the older generations are the least likely to have heard of ron paul and those are the ones whos votes we need to take away from the other candidates. One could argue that we get the young to vote and donate and RPs Campaign spends it to get the other votes...but maybe we can draw both on the 16th.

More ideas? Even if you dont think yours is a good one it might inspire someone else with a 10 million dollar plan.

reaver
11-06-2007, 05:54 AM
More ideas? Even if you dont think yours is a good one it might inspire someone else with a 10 million dollar plan.


This is exactly right.
Originally it was about taxes and money so why not make it about taxes and money?

ckls
11-06-2007, 06:10 AM
We already have something going on. It is the national Boston Tea Party Commemoration Event. Mentioned on www.TeaParty07.com and you can read all the details here: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/5333

Handing out tea bags? Come on folks, we can do better than that! Let's make the Boston Tea Party Commemoration Event something memorable. Let's not pass up this opportunity to really make a statement.

James R
11-06-2007, 06:26 AM
Photographic proof that Mr. T likes tea parties. Our next step: Does Mr. T also like Ron Paul?
http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/barracks/3595/tbean015.jpg

James R
11-06-2007, 06:29 AM
Handing out tea bags? Come on folks, we can do better than that! Let's make the Boston Tea Party Commemoration Event something memorable. Let's not pass up this opportunity to really make a statement.

Tea is very cheap. We can make gallons and gallons of it, and distribute it freely. Paper tea cups would have Ron Paul slogans/quotes on them. We can hand out these tea cups to people across Boston at random busy pedestrian areas.

jm1776
11-06-2007, 06:57 AM
Originally it was about taxes and money so why not make it about taxes and money?

Yes! Yes! Yes! The perfect hook is to make it about the income tax. I think we can maximize the donations and propagate one of RP's major campaign points at the same time. A two for one deal.

Donate now or pay for the rest of your life.

The original Tea Party was as a statement of principle about taxation. The amount of the tax was trivial but the principle that England could impose taxes at will on the colonies was unacceptable. The idea that our government can tax our labor is equally unacceptable.

A quick and easy to way to introduce people to Dr. Paul is to mention eliminating the income tax and the IRS. The site could have drill down info on this topic.

Education and fund raising in one!

american.swan
11-06-2007, 07:00 AM
I think it may require a good two months of online support to get this tea party anywhere close to what happened yesterday. Time is a wasting.

We need someone working on PRESIDENTS DAY in january (isn't it in jan.) and while we are at it, America Loves Freedom for February. And Turn Ron Paul Green with cash in March

James R
11-06-2007, 07:34 AM
I think it may require a good two months of online support to get this tea party anywhere close to what happened yesterday. Time is a wasting.

We need someone working on PRESIDENTS DAY in january (isn't it in jan.) and while we are at it, America Loves Freedom for February. And Turn Ron Paul Green with cash in March

I think we should put 100% of efforts in to the primaries. Planning past January should be done later.

nathanielyao
11-06-2007, 07:55 AM
Sorry to have to send you a direct message, but for some reason it won't let me reply to the topic.

I was thinking that since Dec. 16th is pretty close to Christmas, perhaps the teaparty07.com site should have a link to the Ron Paul online store suggesting that books, shirts, etc. make great gifts.

hmm...

Hurricane Bruiser
11-06-2007, 07:57 AM
What about:
dumptheteadecember16.com
tossthetea.com
???

Johnnybags
11-06-2007, 08:05 AM
Yes! Yes! Yes! The perfect hook is to make it about the income tax. I think we can maximize the donations and propagate one of RP's major campaign points at the same time. A two for one deal.

Donate now or pay for the rest of your life.

The original Tea Party was as a statement of principle about taxation. The amount of the tax was trivial but the principle that England could impose taxes at will on the colonies was unacceptable. The idea that our government can tax our labor is equally unacceptable.

A quick and easy to way to introduce people to Dr. Paul is to mention eliminating the income tax and the IRS. The site could have drill down info on this topic.

Education and fund raising in one!

and the effect on fixed income retirees and theft of our buying power, we need the bluehairs to be mad. END THE INFLATION TAX!

James R
11-06-2007, 08:17 AM
What about:
dumptheteadecember16.com
tossthetea.com
???

teaDump.com
teaToss.com
teaDrop.com
theBigTeaParty.com (named after the big dig)

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 08:17 AM
vvww.BostonTeaParty2007.com

vvww.TeaBagTheMachine.com :p :D

On this day December 16th, history will repeat itself...

literatim
11-06-2007, 08:19 AM
A suggestion (probably sucks)... When the committee headed towards the wharf, they murmered "Let every man do his duty, and be true to his country"... What if you used the phrase "Let every man do his duty". My 2 cents.

I like the quote, it's historical.

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 08:23 AM
"Let every man do his duty, and be true to his country"


I like!



"Let every man do his duty"

For some reason this makes me want to go the bathroom and take a crap. Other than that, it's not bad. :D (sorry my mind is acting like an adolescent's mind in the gutter).

Alien11
11-06-2007, 08:23 AM
To the Mods, can we make this a subforum like the other 2 money bombs? Thanks.

literatim
11-06-2007, 08:25 AM
An advantage that thisnovember5th.com had was that the date was in the address for everyone to see and remember. While the disadvantage we have is that its been done.

James R
11-06-2007, 08:25 AM
Slogans

"Tea is not for taxes!"
"TeaBag our Taxes!"

Hurricane Bruiser
11-06-2007, 08:26 AM
When reading about the Boston Tea Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party I noticed that it was headed up by the "Sons of Liberty" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Liberty and I think of nothing more fitting than the "Sons of Liberty" to describe this movement both on Dec 16 and throughout this campaign.

EDIT: Here is another link http://www.sonsofliberty.com/

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 08:30 AM
hrm....

OnDecember16th.com?

James R
11-06-2007, 08:31 AM
hrm....

OnDecember16th.com?

RememberDecember16th.com

"Remember, Remember, the 16th of December." ... (If it ain't broke don't fix it)

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 08:36 AM
RememberDecember16th.com

"Remember, Remember, the 16th of December." ... (If it ain't broke don't fix it)

I'm on the fence on this. I like how it sounds, but we don't want to copy cat the Nov 5th theme...at least the slogan anyways. :)

literatim
11-06-2007, 08:41 AM
RememberDecember16th.com

"Remember, Remember, the 16th of December." ... (If it ain't broke don't fix it)

Ugh, no.

James R
11-06-2007, 08:47 AM
Ugh, no.

No what? The slogan or on the name?

RememberDecember16.com is not using the same strategy (thisNovember5th.com)

american.swan
11-06-2007, 08:48 AM
I think we should put 100% of efforts in to the primaries. Planning past January should be done later.

i see your point, but i though there are a lot of primaries in Jan and Feb and ron will need money at that time. i guess if Ron does terrible in Iowa and NH then your right, there isn't much need to focus beyond JAN 08.

James R
11-06-2007, 08:48 AM
RememberDecember16[th].com
TeaParty16[th].com
Revolution16.com
TeaTime16[th].com
Tea16[th].com
teaDump16[th].com
teaToss16[th].com
teaDrop16[th].com
theBigTea16[th].com (named after the big dig)

The [brackets] mean optional.

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 08:48 AM
No what? The slogan or on the name?

RememberDecember16.com is not using the same strategy (thisNovember5th.com)

Plus it rhymes, lol!

literatim
11-06-2007, 09:04 AM
ihatetea.com
theteadump.com

James R
11-06-2007, 09:24 AM
Here is a list of all of all ideas so far, somewhat in alphabetic order.
234yearsago.com
BostonTeaParty2007.com
ColorTheSeaWithTea.com
TheBostonMoneyParty.com
dumpTheTeaDecember16.com
iHateTea.com
OnDecember16.com
Revolution16.com
TeaParty16[th].com
TeaTime16[th].com
Tea16[th].com
teaDump16[th].com
teaToss16[th].com
teaDrop16[th].com
TeaBo.com
theBigTea.com
theBigTea16[th].com
teaParty07.com
TeaBagTheMachine.com
tossTheTea.com
RememberDecember16[th].com

James R
11-06-2007, 09:30 AM
My favorites:
1. TeaParty16.com
2. Tea16.com
3. RememberDecember16.com
4. teaParty07.com
5. TeaTime16th.com

I like the word "party" for its positive connotation. I like the number 16 to remind people of the date.

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 09:33 AM
Here is a list of all of all ideas so far, somewhat in alphabetic order. Sort your favorite five in order from most to least favorite.
BostonTeaParty2007.com
dumpTheTeaDecember16.com
iHateTea.com
Revolution16.com
TeaParty16[th].com
TeaTime16[th].com
Tea16[th].com
teaDump16[th].com
teaToss16[th].com
teaDrop16[th].com
TeaBo.com
theBigTea.com
theBigTea16[th].com
teaParty07.com
TeaBagTheMachine.com
tossTheTea.com
RememberDecember16[th].com

you forgot OnDecember16th.com.

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 09:33 AM
I am particular to 234yearsago.com for the mystery hook. I mentioned this several times but dont see it on your list James R.

PS if you checked its availability, its not - because I picked it up already.

adpierce
11-06-2007, 09:41 AM
If you could get the mod of this site to agree to sell it... which since it's as barebones as you can get I would be surprised they wouldn't. I really like www.sonsofliberty.com It's both somewhat mysterious and it's got that major historical tie in.

James R
11-06-2007, 09:42 AM
you forgot OnDecember16th.com.

Edited! Also added 234yearsago.com

jm1776
11-06-2007, 09:43 AM
I like

ReplaceItWithNothing.com

James R
11-06-2007, 09:43 AM
If you could get the mod of this site to agree to sell it... which since it's as barebones as you can get I would be surprised they wouldn't. I really like www.sonsofliberty.com It's both somewhat mysterious and it's got that major historical tie in.

But at what price? Ideally free, if they like Ron Paul enough.

LibertyRevolution
11-06-2007, 09:48 AM
the more i think about this day, the less i like it. Tea is for *****s. so its not surprising to me eveything i read about this so far is sounding really gay. im vote no to anything having to do with teabagging.

James R
11-06-2007, 09:56 AM
the more i think about this day, the less i like it. Tea is for *****s. so its not surprising to me eveything i read about this so far is sounding really gay. im vote no to anything having to do with teabagging.

What if you were to spell it differently?
T-Party16.com
T-Time16th.com

Doesn't that look cool? Want to go to a T-Party?

literatim
11-06-2007, 10:06 AM
colortheseawithtea.com

James R
11-06-2007, 10:17 AM
colortheseawithtea.com

Catchy but too long for my taste. Makes a good slogan though!

Hurricane Bruiser
11-06-2007, 10:21 AM
I also like sonsofliberty.com but someone would need to contact the site owner and see if he would relinquish it. Since "Sons of Liberty" were the people responsible for the Boston Tea Party, it would seem fitting. On the other hand..... there are other good names that have been mentioned. 234yearsago.com is mysterious and certainly unique.

Chaos Unlimited
11-06-2007, 10:42 AM
The in-person rallies are the key to the success of this event. Don't just make it a money bomb. Make it an across the nation tax revolt! Please spread the word to all the meetup groups and across college campuses. We need posters!

bmcosti
11-06-2007, 10:48 AM
Well the two most destructive taxes are the income tax and the inflation tax. Because of its closeness to the December 23rd date of the founding of the Federal Reserve, I suggest we protest the inflation tax that Dr. Ron Paul has so eleoquently talked about. We can have teaparty's at each of the the 12 Federal Reserve banks across the country, and not only bring attention to Ron Paul but his campaign to end the inflation tax. We need to bring the inflation tax to the forefront in the media.

What do you think?

dircha
11-06-2007, 10:48 AM
The site should be http://thisdecember16th.com just like Novemember 5th was thisnovember5th.com.

A Ron Paul supporter already owns thisdecember16th. I checked and it currently redirects to a november5th website.

Listed contact is ronpaulproject@mac.com

TeaParty07 by itself sounds pretty lame. Sorry.

Man from La Mancha
11-06-2007, 11:00 AM
All websites domain names should have Ron Paul in them to help people stubbing on searches for Ron and to link the event with Ron.

.

kevman657
11-06-2007, 11:20 AM
thefinalboost.com?

ondecember16th.com?

TyTodd
11-06-2007, 11:20 AM
I think this is a great idea for a second mass fundraiser, perfectly spaced from the November 5th event to let people catch their breath and to promote. Here are my thoughts:

1) Theme - I think focusing around the Tea Party is a wonderful idea, not because of the actual act of protesting tea taxes but due to the fact that this was a tipping point in the American revolution. I would advise not focusing the money bomb around eliminating a specific tax, the IRS, the FED etc. so much as using the basic Tea Party framework to suggest we are in the midst of a second political revolution. (non violent)

2) URL - Keep it simple. The url needs to be easy to remember. It would be great if it has the actual date in the URL, but December is tough to work with. I like teaparty07.com as it is straight forward. Some other ideas: remembertherevolution.com or twelvesixteen.com

3) Design - Thanks to whomever put up the initial artwork. I think this is a good framework. My advice would be to find a clean piece of background art and to minimize the amount of text as it is busy. I would get rid of the quote in the upper right, as it is excessive. For the intro, how about: "On December 16, 1773, American colonists protested the rule of Great Britain in an event known as the Boston Tea Party that sparked the American Revolution. The time has come for a new political revolution, but this time the revolution will not be fought with muskets but with the very ideas that the American Revolution engendered... the principles of freedom and liberty. These ideas are embodied in the Presidential Campaign of Congressman Ron Paul, who is fighting to return our great country to the Constitution and the principles of our Founding Fathers!

4) Goal - I think we should explicitly state we are trying to top the all time single day fundraising goal. I've seen conflicting reports, but I believe it is Kerry's tally of $5.4 M right after the DNC nomination in '04?

These are just my thoughts. I think the efforts to date are awesome. I would take a shot at the art myself, but my photoshop skills are poor and web design knowledge non-existent. :rolleyes:

jrich4rpaul
11-06-2007, 11:31 AM
The Boston Tea Party cannot be spun into anything negative like we are seeing with the media trying to milk the hell out of every Guye Faukes detail, even saying Ron Paul himself organized it.

The Tea Party 07 is going to be even bigger than the 5th, if we allow it to be so. This should be our focus, and goal.. to make that the all-time record breaking day over Clinton, Obama, and Kerry.

tonyr1988
11-06-2007, 11:31 AM
One small thing I'd like to see. I'd love to pledge $25 or more, but I just don't know if my personal finances will be able to handle it. Trust me, I'll try, but why not something a tad smaller, like $12.16 (you could also do a $121.60 :P)?

Love the idea and the site design. This should be much better than Nov. 5 (not that it was bad...it was amazing, but Dec. 16 will be even better :D).

jrich4rpaul
11-06-2007, 11:33 AM
And there shouldn't really be a minimum pledge for this day... we need to go all in here.

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 11:34 AM
All websites domain names should have Ron Paul in them to help people stubbing on searches for Ron and to link the event with Ron.

.

I would rather keep Ron Pauls name out of the website. Mystery has wide appeal to every generation and msm has done a well enough job to make Dr. Paul appear 'fringe' or 'wacky' so we have to break through that with his message on various issues that will draw voters from the current high polling candidates.

EDIT: I would rather keep Ron Pauls name out of the website address. Obviously his name should be plastered all over the actual website.

Kalash
11-06-2007, 11:49 AM
Because.... well...
Why not?


http://revolutioni.st


Or - subdomains thereof.

http://party.revolutioni.st
http://tea.revolutioni.st


Anything goes ;)

If you decide on something else, let me know and I'll forward both of them/anything else you can think of to that site.



Anyone have a banner for the tea party yet?
I'm no good with graphics >_<

And I want to replace the Nov. 5th banner on Revolutioni.st


@revolutioni.st email addresses are also up for grabs (courtesy of Google Apps) if anyone wants one...
Lemme know and I'll set it up.

literatim
11-06-2007, 01:05 PM
As for http://www.sonsofliberty.com, it seems to be linked to http://www.rights.com according to this site (http://www.fuzrik.info/About-rights.php).

No luck tracking down contact information of the owner.

literatim
11-06-2007, 01:13 PM
234yearslater.com

rebelforacause
11-06-2007, 01:17 PM
redirect it for this event. Otherwise I like the the date w/o his name best.

stevedasbach
11-06-2007, 01:17 PM
And there shouldn't really be a minimum pledge for this day... we need to go all in here.

I don't know -- the $100 minimum to pledge seemed to work well. It didn't stop people from donating smaller (and larger) amounts.

Man from La Mancha
11-06-2007, 01:22 PM
I would rather keep Ron Pauls name out of the website. Mystery has wide appeal to every generation and msm has done a well enough job to make Dr. Paul appear 'fringe' or 'wacky' so we have to break through that with his message on various issues that will draw voters from the current high polling candidates.

EDIT: I would rather keep Ron Pauls name out of the website address. Obviously his name should be plastered all over the actual website.
There is the other part that has to be address, we have to turn around these negative words and defuse them. Wacky, fringe ect. These can be used to our advantage my linking them to the founders and the revolutionaries that died for these wacky, fringe, crazy concepts of freedom. Which how the NWO puppets are reacting to this. So if we hear the constitution is wacky by these cohorts it would then make them look as the wacky ones for not backing Ron and freedom. Does anybody know what I mean?

.

SwordOfShannarah
11-06-2007, 01:31 PM
I put something up here.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=32916

and there is a poll.

akalucas
11-06-2007, 01:32 PM
how about:

SonsofLibertea.com

or

SonsofLiberteaDec16th.com

literatim
11-06-2007, 01:33 PM
how about:

SonsofLibertea.com

or

SonsofLiberteaDec16th.com

Libertea would be like saying you are throwing liberty away because they dumped tea in the harbor.

literatim
11-06-2007, 01:35 PM
Of what others posted, I like:

OnDecember16th.com
234yearsago.com

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 02:11 PM
I kind of want to twist a little mystery to it like the 5th. :)

MEGAMERICAN
11-06-2007, 02:18 PM
This is a great idea.

Taco John
11-06-2007, 02:35 PM
I think we should stick with December 16th Boston Tea Party...

www.teaparty07.com is great branding.


We're getting too clever four ourselves with anything else, IMO...

The theme is Revolution, and people resonate with the Boston Tea Party...

Man from La Mancha
11-06-2007, 02:37 PM
Remember, Remember the 16th of December:)

.

ronpaulitician
11-06-2007, 03:18 PM
bostontaxparty.com

Think it'd be worth it to dump a couple of hundred $1 bills into the waters of Boston harbor?

wfd40
11-06-2007, 03:22 PM
i dig ondecember16th.com

saku39
11-06-2007, 03:46 PM
I'm down with this. I'm putting $100 in.

JustAnotherV
11-06-2007, 03:49 PM
I posted this at dailypaul, but did not know that there might already be some things in motion for the 16th/Tea Party. I wanted to add this here since I can't start threads here (WTF, to block sabotage or something?).

I actually think that, December 15, Bill of Rights Day, is a slightly better day based on subject matter, but will go with consensus.
However, it is also possible to make a 48 hour window, to allow for the media to pick up on it and ride the hype wave. I noticed that today is a well above average funds day, possibly due to the media coverage, even if ignoring any spill over from late last night. So 2 days is not necessarily a bad idea, but again it depends what others think. Below is a copy of the post I made.



>>>>>

I saw someone mention this a while back but am not hearing it now, so I wanted to toss it out there. I see different suggestions for a good December fundraising date, but this one speaks the most to *WHO RON PAUL IS* not just what might sound cool for a day to donate. It is timed about right, and it is dead on the message. As much as I liked the Nov 5 date, some of you may have seen that it had a slight taint to it in the media. They liked to at least mention the violent side of that even if the more hopeful message and actually peaceful march from the movie is what people are thinking about.

So I am nominating (seconding actually) Bill of Rights Day to be the primary December fundraising day. This is a day that all people can rally around and everyone can feel good about, as well as once which underscores numerous pillars in the Ron Paul ideology, including:

- Freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly ,and petition
- Due process and rights of the accused
- Right to bear arms
- Powers of the states and people

And if it gets into the media again, they will have nothing but good things to say about it. No one knocks the Bill of Rights, not even Fox News.

Please consider this date as you plan.

literatim
11-06-2007, 04:46 PM
On December 16th, let's dump the tea!

On December 16th, let's make history!

Dump the tea on December 16th!

ondecember16th.com

rebelforacause
11-06-2007, 04:49 PM
Just asking




I think we should stick with December 16th Boston Tea Party...

www.teaparty07.com is great branding.


We're getting too clever four ourselves with anything else, IMO...

The theme is Revolution, and people resonate with the Boston Tea Party...

IKaNeI
11-06-2007, 05:24 PM
Favor to ask for the website creators:

The Associated Press article released early this morning dictated the tone. It became obvious that in the early articles and television news programs used it as their primary source. They simply preached the original AP article until mid-day.

Of course this has now changed later in the day for the evening news.

What im asking:
If a statement is released on the website. Please be clear that this is non-violent support for Ron Paul somewhere in the statement.

Taco John
11-06-2007, 05:24 PM
You guys are trying to put the www.teaparty07.com cat back in the bag...

You shouldn't do that. It's already going viral...

JordanL
11-06-2007, 05:53 PM
In the spirit of keeping the threads together:

ournewteaparty.com

Will be live later tonight.

livinitup
11-06-2007, 06:03 PM
Today, On the Tom Sullivan radio show I hear about the Dec 16 event.

Paul4Prez
11-06-2007, 06:06 PM
I like the 2-day version -- Bill of Rights Day 12/15, Boston Tea Party 12/16: the old double whammy. Let people pledge separately for each day, and make it a contest.

literatim
11-06-2007, 06:08 PM
I like the 2-day version -- Bill of Rights Day 12/15, Boston Tea Party 12/16: the old double whammy. Let people pledge separately for each day, and make it a contest.

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

That would completely wreck any hope of Ron Paul breaking more records when it comes to the amount of money made on a single day!

GHoeberX
11-06-2007, 06:26 PM
Perhaps the Boston Tea Party should be already given an own section like the 5th November.

This way we have all time to prepare to make it a bigger success than 5th of November

Mani
11-06-2007, 06:30 PM
WE NEED A RALLY ON DEC 16th IN BOSTON!!!!

literatim
11-06-2007, 06:32 PM
I say we rally on December 15th and donate on December 16th.

Taco John
11-06-2007, 06:36 PM
I think we're getting too clever for our own good. As a marketer, I think it's a huge mistake to put the brakes on www.teaparty07.com. There are already reporters with this URL. It's already gone viral.

This is making us look very unorganized. We can still have the rally, but IMO, we should stick to www.teaparty07.com.

ladyliberty
11-06-2007, 06:43 PM
WE NEED A RALLY ON DEC 16th IN BOSTON!!!!

How about a re-enactment of the original event - throwing wooden barrels into the river that say things like NO IRS! NO TAXES! etc...maybe a boat in the Harbor that says Vote for Ron Paul?:cool:

Is there any way we can do a range of pledges?

perhaps $25 $50 and $100 increments? that would make it easier for more people to get involved.:)

The Boston Tea Party is not like a little girls tea party - it was a revolt against taxes and was referred to as a "tea party" much like our little donation day was referred to as a "money bomb" - y'all need to study your history more! :D

Shaun
11-06-2007, 06:47 PM
People, here is the deal ( and this is my business in Hollywood, so listen up...) when Ron Paul raises 10M dollars on the 16th December at the tea party site, IT'S ALL OVER for everyone else..DO YOU UNDERSTAND? All over. Forget everything else, Taco John is exactly right, there is only one job left to do to get RP into the nomination slot...Raise 10m on Dec 16th. IGNORE everything else. If you guys raise him that money you will create a new paradigm in the US election. He will be far and away the front runner and the debate in IOWA will be a complete non issue.
Get this simplicity: DUPLICATE your success yesterday with another extra 30,000 donors, or more, you will easily hit 10m and cause a Tsunami in world media attention.
It's over, just get your man the money..

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 06:47 PM
I think we're getting too clever for our own good. As a marketer, I think it's a huge mistake to put the brakes on www.teaparty07.com. There are already reporters with this URL. It's already gone viral.

This is making us look very unorganized. We can still have the rally, but IMO, we should stick to www.teaparty07.com.

As much as I would prefer a more mysterious website name - it would hurt the effort more to change now.

I also agree fully that a SINGLE day event has MUCH more impact than a weekend event.

Shaun
11-06-2007, 06:59 PM
Guys: It's simple:

1) Let the guys who made History yesterday advise on this..
2) DUPLICATE yesterday.
3) SINGLE focus, one day, one event, let's make History..
4) Make absolutely sure the servers and infrastructure will handle the load at RonPaul2008..
5) Follow the same structure as yesterday..
6) Make it simple, simple, simple. The web site name is teaparty07.com..it's all ready all over the media, get used to it...
7) Start the promo 21 days out...
8) Be proud when you raise him 10m and create a new paradigm in the USA..

Now follow the lead of Taco man and focus on this.
If you do this, our man wins. Everything else is a sideshow.
We have to pick the areas where we can have the biggest impact.
This is it.
God, when you raise him 10 M in a day, other countries will start supporting him...
There will never be another opportunity like Dec 16th again, it's prove, it's big symbology and it's acheivable.
Get the guys from the 5th and get this going....ASAP. There is nothing else to debate.

Shaun
11-06-2007, 07:02 PM
By the way, a rally will distract from the fundraising and splits the focus.
Think LASER BEAM and not FLASHLIGHT.
Duplicate yesterday...
If this doesn't get up and straight within a week I'm going to have our Hollywood guys start to organize with the PROVEN winners from yesterday. It's a no brainer.
Focus, focus, focus guys.
Follow Taco on this..he's dead right.

TyTodd
11-06-2007, 07:09 PM
Just to add a few thoughts to the cacophony here:

1) A single day event is much more powerful than a weekend. And, breaking the single day fundraising record should be a goal.

2) A weekday fundraising event is better than a weekend. Many people are away from computers, the news is less prevalent, etc. on saturdays / sundays.

3) Should we consider bumping the date to a weekday, such as Thursday December 13th? The original Tea Party happened on Thursday Dec. 16 1773, but the 16th this year falls on a Sunday, which is not a great fundraising day. I think mirroring the exact historical date is irrelevant.

4) Switching away from teaparty07.com at this point would be a mistake. It's not perfect, but let's get behind it...

Honestly, whoever owns this idea and came up with the concept needs to find a web / art design volunteer and knock out the details. We'll get behind the concept, regardless of the details!

Adam0980
11-06-2007, 07:19 PM
I was the guy who recently started the noise on the dailypaul about this idea, so i just want to add my opinion on some matters.

First, from browsing this thread, I definitely am concerned we are becoming TOO creative for our own good. Simplicity is the best avenue. The more creative and thus more complex we become the more we begin to lose ourselves within our own creativity. Our goal with our work must just be the message and helping that message. We can't let our creativity subvert the message.

Two, as for the website for this event, i think we make a huge mistake if it has any connection to guy fawkes day. I personally was on the fence about nov 5th, but it made sense because it represented change. But that is as far as it goes. The Boston Tea Party is on a whole other level way above November 5th. It must be a separate event. We should not have any connection, whether it is the poem, the website, or whatever. As for the name of the website, I believe teaparty07.com is the best name. The day is more than just a date. it is not just about the 16th. November 5th was a loose association. The Boston Tea Party we can embrace. The event is not just about the general theme of change, which is what Novemeber 5th represented. The BTP we can connect to on various levels (i.e. OUR history, our OWN discontent, Paul's philosophy, etc).

Three, I really don't think it matters that the 16th is a Sunday. Let's have a little faith in ourselves and others. People will make a point to participate if they are willing to in the first place. And it is less meaningful if it is not on the exact day. Just keep it on the 16th. In addition, a one day event is much more powerful as we are seeing from the media coverage. I mean if nothing else, if we raise more than we did Monday that would really make a tremendous amount of noise with the media. And pratically speaking, people will not have to really think about the date. They will just have to remember donate on Boston Tea Party.

All in all, let's not have any associations with November 5th and lets embrace the BTP as much as possible. The name teaparty07 is perfect I think or at least if we change it, it should be something descriptive of the event and not just the day.

Adam

http://dailypaul.com/node/5764

shell
11-06-2007, 07:31 PM
I do many web things, and I can (and want to) help.
I'm also the http://paulcash.slact.net, and I had the site stay up (mostly) through 100,000 hits.

justinc.1089
11-06-2007, 07:44 PM
I absolutely agree with you. Lets get this going!

Here are some slogan ideas people can use for promoting this if you like any of them:

The 2nd LiberTea Party

Throwing Out Tea Lit the American Revolution
Remembering LiberTea Lit the Ron Paul Re[evol]ution

(Obviously this one lol)
Remember, remember, the 16th of December

(I see no reason not to use that, it sounds cool and people will remember it from our last fundraiser too)

They Taxed the Tea; We Cried "Liberty!"
They Tax Unconstitutionally; Again We Cry "Liberty!"

They Taxed the Tea; We Cried "Liberty!"
They Tax with Unequality; Again we cry "Liberty!"

They said "For a cup of tea, give up they will their liberty"
They say "For a little security, give up they will their liberty"
(thats my favorite probably, someone needs to use this one lol!)

Two by two they descended to dump the tea,
Two by two the dollars rebuild our liberty!

The King he cried "You need our tea!"
But we chose liberty
The government it cries "You need security!"
But we choose liberty

I know like every one of those just use tea and liberty again and again but they get the point across lol. If anyone wants to use that in a youtube video or something feel free.

jinflsp
11-06-2007, 07:47 PM
I think the Guy Fawkes association for the 5th was one of the primary drivers for all the attention today.. why not keep things along the same lines - v for vendetta => teafortyranny.com? Pitch the site properly (i.e. we dump the tea Boston style)

jrich4rpaul
11-06-2007, 07:54 PM
teaparty07 is already established, let's just go with it. we bickered over the meaning of the fifth, there's no need to bicker over a domain name

reaver
11-06-2007, 07:56 PM
Alright. after going through the thread again I see we'll be using teaparty07.com. It's a good idea not to change it. I'm all for teaparty07.com. (although i like rememberthisdecember/decembertoremember/rememberdecember16 because it rhymes :D )

The more I think about it the more I decide that the federal government was just like motherland britain.

Adam0980
11-06-2007, 08:00 PM
No!

One, can't we trust people? Can't we trust that we don't have to worry about the drive for november 5th not spilling over to this new event? People will take care of their own. We don't have to worry about making some sort of connection our of fear that we cannot reproduce yesterday's showing. That's erroneous. Trust people.

Two, the reason we really should not continue along the same lines is that this new event is simply not along the same lines. The Boston Tea Party is a different event in history and it is an AMERICAN event during the AMERICAN REVOLUTION. It is inherently not along the same lines and it's disrespecting the whole thing by trying to continue along the same lines. I beg us not to infuse some non-American event into it because of we feel it'll be a good gimmick to bring the crowd along. I mean just taking myself as an example, I would be somewhat insulted if we were to do something like this. I feel more connection with some event in American history than some cultural event that occurs in Britain.

I say...Embrace the Tea!!

Copperhed51
11-06-2007, 08:02 PM
teaparty07 is good with me.

SOMEBODY GET THE SITE UP AND RUNNING OFFICIALLY!! I'm really excited to participate again and we need to get this started as soon as possible. The longer the site is up, the better.

Keep it simple, but make it strong. Let's get moving though. Sounds like there's web designers and people ready and willing to get on this. Do we want Trevor doing this one again or somebody else? Who's designing what? Let's get as organized as a grassroots effort can...but not too organized cause that loses part of the mystique, lol.

By the way, I plan on making a youtube video for this as soon as we get a site up that looks good where people can actually sign up for real.

GoodOlClint
11-06-2007, 08:10 PM
I went ahead and registered thisdecember16th.com

GHoeberX
11-06-2007, 08:12 PM
This is making us look very unorganized. We can still have the rally, but IMO, we should stick to www.teaparty07.com.

Totally agree

literatim
11-06-2007, 08:14 PM
I think overall 'ondecember16th.com' is the best.

James R
11-06-2007, 08:18 PM
Totally agree

I don't think its that bad. We can have a vote and if TeaParty07.com comes out on top we stick to it. If it doesn't, we should change it, provided that the TeaParty07.com guys want to make the switch. It only costs about $10 to change a domain name. No big deal.

It should be a checkbox vote so you can vote for multiple domains that you like.

justinc.1089
11-06-2007, 08:23 PM
I think the site name is fine. I mean its ok, not bad by any means, but we could get something better, but if its good enough and already being promoted there is no need to abandon ship for a better one lol.

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 08:23 PM
"OnDecember16th" is a bit more mysterious than "TeaParty07." The aura of mystery that shrouded "ThisNovember5th" added a nice touch, and is something we should carry onto the next fundraiser.

James R
11-06-2007, 08:25 PM
I think the site name is fine. I mean its ok, not bad by any means, but we could get something better, but if its good enough and already being promoted there is no need to abandon ship for a better one lol.

Its been less than a day since we've promoted the name. If one gets a better vote I think we may as well go with a new one. A couple days from now I'm sure the name will be set in stone.

As for the current one getting promoted already, it can simply re-direct to the new name. I have a feeling the TeaParty07.com would get the biggest vote, but personally think that there is likely a more ideal name.

justinc.1089
11-06-2007, 08:25 PM
teaparty07 is good with me.

SOMEBODY GET THE SITE UP AND RUNNING OFFICIALLY!! I'm really excited to participate again and we need to get this started as soon as possible. The longer the site is up, the better.

Keep it simple, but make it strong. Let's get moving though. Sounds like there's web designers and people ready and willing to get on this. Do we want Trevor doing this one again or somebody else? Who's designing what? Let's get as organized as a grassroots effort can...but not too organized cause that loses part of the mystique, lol.

By the way, I plan on making a youtube video for this as soon as we get a site up that looks good where people can actually sign up for real.

Yes he should do the site again. He showed he was willing to compromise with those that felt something could go wrong, and he did a good job. And those are very important things, so I say absolutely yes lol.

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 08:31 PM
Would anyone object to additional websites promoting the teaparty date that simple have some graphics and blub about Ron Paul? Including that any click on the page links to TeaParty07.com? No outbound links from TeaPary07 except to Ron Pauls donation page and perhaps the forums here...just different inbound links that are promoted independantly.

Adam0980
11-06-2007, 08:34 PM
Just to reiterate my concern. Do people not realize the benefit of the simplicity of teaparty07 or something similar describing the actual event and the connection in general that exists with the event? People will connect with something that alludes to the actual event so much more easily than something that doesnt describe it but alludes to some past event that has no association with the Boston Tea Party. The more we embrace the actual event the better.

What actually are some of the concerns about the name?

Either way, assuming it is feasible, i wouldn't be against some sort of attempt to get a consensus either.

James R
11-06-2007, 08:44 PM
I think teaParty07.com is a great name. It has been less than a day since teaParty07 took off, so its not too late to change it. The question is: can we do better? I'll put up a vote in about an hour. I can only put 10 names up, so nominate names now and let me know the favorites. It will be a checkbox survey, so more than one name can be voted for. I can only fit 10 names, so voice your opinions. Here is the big list of every suggestion I have seen. I put names that seem to have a lot of support right now at the top. I didn't list teaParty07 because obviously that will be on the vote!

onDecember16.com
WeekendOfLiberty.com
thisdecember16th.com
SonsofLibertea.com (liter)
sonsofliberty.com
ournewteaparty.com
Tea16[th].com
RememberDecember16[th].com
TeaBagTheMachine.com
TeaParty16[th].com
234yearslater.com
Revolution16.com
TeaTime16[th].com
tossthetea.com
teaDump16[th].com
teaToss16[th].com
dumptheteadecember16.com
teaDrop16[th].com
theBigTea.com
theBigTea16[th].com
BostonTeaParty2007.com
ihatetea.com
tossthetea.com
teafortyranny.com
teavstyranny.com
teaPartyVsTyranny.com

rebelforacause
11-06-2007, 08:45 PM
which tells me it could be about ego. I say we go with the date if nobody votes for jointherevolution.

rebelforacause
11-06-2007, 08:51 PM
Lets do it - I will organize San Francisco

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 08:52 PM
I think teaParty07.com is a great name. It has been less than a day since teaParty07 took off, so its not too late to change it. The question is: can we do better? I'll put up a vote in about an hour. I can only put 10 names up, so nominate names now and let me know the favorites. It will be a checkbox survey, so more than one name can be voted for. I can only fit 10 names, so voice your opinions. Here is the big list of every suggestion I have seen. I put names that seem to have a lot of support right now at the top. I didn't list teaParty07 because obviously that will be on the vote!

onDecember16.com
WeekendOfLiberty.com
thisdecember16th.com
SonsofLibertea.com (liter)
sonsofliberty.com
ournewteaparty.com
Tea16[th].com
RememberDecember16[th].com
TeaBagTheMachine.com
TeaParty16[th].com
234yearslater.com
Revolution16.com
TeaTime16[th].com
tossthetea.com
teaDump16[th].com
teaToss16[th].com
dumptheteadecember16.com
teaDrop16[th].com
theBigTea.com
theBigTea16[th].com
BostonTeaParty2007.com
ihatetea.com
tossthetea.com
teafortyranny.com
teavstyranny.com
teaPartyVsTyranny.com

OnDecember16th

justinc.1089
11-06-2007, 08:53 PM
I like the name we have now, thisdecember16th.com, and Tea16.com.

Those are my picks.

Also, just as a side note or whatever, we need to get the site going quickly in case other campaigns decide to try to mimick what we're doing after seeing yesterday. I mean they have got to be sitting around thinking about what they should do in response or how they can achieve similar success or something.....

Also we need a slogan too.

For the nov.5th we had the following:

A date- Nov.5th

A site- www.thisnovember5th.com

A slogan- "Remember, remember, the fifth of November"

A theme although it was debated somewhat, it was either one or both Vendetta and Guy Fawkes or something close to that.

So far for this we have:

A date- Dec. 16th

A site- www.teaparty07.com? possibly something else too I suppose..

A slogan- ????

A theme- The Boston Tea Party

So we need to get the slogan and site chosen, but we're working on the site anyway.

James R
11-06-2007, 08:54 PM
which tells me it could be about ego. I say we go with the date if nobody votes for jointherevolution.

It has to do with: what would be the best URL for the site? If we vote for another website and the TeaParty07.com owner doesn't change it, then you are right that it is about ego. Over 90% of the URLs on the list I just put up are not registered. How much does it hurt to vote on and recommend a different name? In any case TeaParty07.com will likely get the most votes and we'll have nothing to disagree on.

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 09:03 PM
I think teaParty07.com is a great name. It has been less than a day since teaParty07 took off, so its not too late to change it. The question is: can we do better? I'll put up a vote in about an hour. I can only put 10 names up, so nominate names now and let me know the favorites. It will be a checkbox survey, so more than one name can be voted for. I can only fit 10 names, so voice your opinions. Here is the big list of every suggestion I have seen. I put names that seem to have a lot of support right now at the top. I didn't list teaParty07 because obviously that will be on the vote!

onDecember16.com
WeekendOfLiberty.com
thisdecember16th.com
SonsofLibertea.com (liter)
sonsofliberty.com
ournewteaparty.com
Tea16[th].com
RememberDecember16[th].com
TeaBagTheMachine.com
TeaParty16[th].com
234yearslater.com
Revolution16.com
TeaTime16[th].com
tossthetea.com
teaDump16[th].com
teaToss16[th].com
dumptheteadecember16.com
teaDrop16[th].com
theBigTea.com
theBigTea16[th].com
BostonTeaParty2007.com
ihatetea.com
tossthetea.com
teafortyranny.com
teavstyranny.com
teaPartyVsTyranny.com

234yearslater.com / 234yearsago.com

Adam0980
11-06-2007, 09:04 PM
A Slogan:

Dump The Tea, then you get Liberty!

or

Dump The Tea To Get Liberty!

NinjaPirate
11-06-2007, 09:07 PM
On December 16th, history will repeat itself...

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 09:09 PM
[QUOTE=justinc.1089;365826]
A site- www.234yearsago.com

A slogan- Two-hundred thirty-four years ago...

A theme- The Boston Tea Party

Domain will show as taken because I reserved it - will xfer as neededQUOTE]

James R
11-06-2007, 09:15 PM
My nominations right now are:
onDecember16.com and Tea16[th].com


My hated ones right now are:
WeekendOfLiberty.com - This will result in extreme infighting because I think that Trevor owns the name and I don't believe he would be willing to hand over control to the TeaParty07 website.

LFOD
11-06-2007, 09:16 PM
My vote is for teaparty07.com

If other sites with other names do pop up, I think that's okay - it's the fundraising total for that day that's going to make the impact.

The Boston Tea Party connection is brilliant - it's "revolutionary", pure American, it ties in with taxation - and don't forget complaints against "King George"! Perhaps we could make a list of compaints we have against our "king"....

I'm in agreement with others who have said we need $10M in one day. BOOM. Let's get it done. That's the day we go all in, or someone calls our bluff.

justinc.1089
11-06-2007, 09:18 PM
Well trevor and those people need to work together really, then they would do that much better of a job.

As for slogan/s, I think this would be of use too:

The 2nd LiberTea Party

The second one here could be used some in videos or on the site perhaps.

Throwing Out Tea Lit the American Revolution
Remembering LiberTea Lit the Ron Paul Re[evol]ution

I just think its to the point about the Boston Tea Party and connects to Ron Paul at the same time you know?

And we can always use the default remember, remember, the 16th of December as well.

If we go with a new link, I say Tea16.com. But I'm for just sticking with what we have because I think its good, not great, but still good.

greves
11-06-2007, 09:28 PM
New subforum: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=191

Copperhed51
11-06-2007, 09:43 PM
I personally think we're good with TeaParty07.com and ThisDecember16th.com. The latter can redirect to TeaParty07.com. Is Trevor around and has he weighed in on this? Can anybody begin designing a good background for the website. The current one is kinda sketchy. the Nov 5th one was great. Maybe a new thread for an official design?

JustAnotherV
11-06-2007, 09:46 PM
I say we rally on December 15th and donate on December 16th.


Actually, I think this is a good idea. This last time was done largely on internet only. What if we used the 15th/Bill of rights Day for rallies across the country. This could get all meetup group members informed and also maybe pull in some new/extra people that day. Then we all go home and turn to donating after getting psyched up and promoting it.

It has the potential for:

1 - a more mobilized base
2 - a bigger audience overall
3 - possible preliminary media coverage if the rallies are noticeable enough

All of that = more money,. more coverage, and more illustration of real, live assembled people.


Does anyone agree? A lot of people?

justinc.1089
11-06-2007, 09:51 PM
Rallying and things like that the day before are fine, probably even a good idea, but we have to make sure we absolutely stick to one day donating because that gets the media attention.

I'll give you one better than that too though! This time, the day before we need to start mass emailing, calling, whatever the media so that they know what is about to happen. Who knows, we might get someone like Wolf Blitzer the evening before it begins say something like "Ron Paul's campaign is expecting yet another day like the 5th of November when they broke records."

Any problems with that idea?

Paulite5112007
11-06-2007, 09:51 PM
I agree - I think a nice Saturday rally that encourages outdoor involvement and local community gatherings that will attract people who have not seen RPs message is a great idea. The trick will be getting them to donate the following day.

random
11-06-2007, 09:53 PM
The Boston Tea Party connection is brilliant - it's "revolutionary", pure American, it ties in with taxation - and don't forget complaints against "King George"! Perhaps we could make a list of compaints we have against our "king"....Excellent :D I second this, and also teaparty07.com

dj191
11-06-2007, 10:03 PM
How about some play on word with the 16th and the unproper ratification of the16th amendment?

Repealthe16th.com or something like that...See what you can come up with

ProximoAZ
11-06-2007, 10:38 PM
I think the idea of adding the pledge amount and keeping a running total of pledges will be very useful. Should be a dropdown list in $25 increments up to 2300.

The media may even be watching and mention before hand what has been pledged.

We need to make sure emails go out the day before reminding people to donate

dlb8685
11-06-2007, 11:04 PM
Let's also remember the sign bomb on December 15th to celebrate the Bill of Rights on one of the busiest shopping days of the year. A good sign bomb can add a few hundred thousand to the Tea Party total I'm sure.

dlb8685
11-06-2007, 11:16 PM
I'm going to post a second time after reading some of the other posts that have been here of late. First of all, it is imperative that people unite behind the December 16th date, and I'm strongly in favor of keeping the TeaParty name. For one it is a good description of the event, and also there is no point in creating a big fight amongst ourselves over such a minor issue.

Secondly, I support the idea that the December 15th, Bill of Rights rallies should be decentralized. Even if we get ten thousand or more supporters together in a big city like New York, it won't be more than a thirty-second blip on the local news. If we can take those ten thousand people, split them into groups of four, and get them to stand on 2,500 different street corners with Ron Paul signs and literature, we won't even need the news. Their very presence will be impossible for anyone to miss. I'd like to see people discussing this idea.

hard@work
11-06-2007, 11:30 PM
TeaParty07.com is the best possible name outside of TeaParty.com

Adam0980
11-06-2007, 11:36 PM
I'm going to post a second time after reading some of the other posts that have been here of late. First of all, it is imperative that people unite behind the December 16th date, and I'm strongly in favor of keeping the TeaParty name. For one it is a good description of the event, and also there is no point in creating a big fight amongst ourselves over such a minor issue.

Secondly, I support the idea that the December 15th, Bill of Rights rallies should be decentralized. Even if we get ten thousand or more supporters together in a big city like New York, it won't be more than a thirty-second blip on the local news. If we can take those ten thousand people, split them into groups of four, and get them to stand on 2,500 different street corners with Ron Paul signs and literature, we won't even need the news. Their very presence will be impossible for anyone to miss. I'd like to see people discussing this idea.

I totally am down for the type of rallying you are suggesting. We definitive want a decentralized, across the nation type of rally. Perfect!

Shaun
11-07-2007, 01:48 AM
Guys,
Let's not overthink this, my job is CEO of an entertainment company and I'm a marketing CEO, let's get some baics in place here..
1) What is the target we want to hit? Answer; $10,000,000 in a SINGLE day.
2) How can we accomplish this with the least amount of risk and the maximum (98%+) possiblity of it working? Answer; HIRE the guys with the track record (Trevor and team) and LEAVE in place as many factors of success as you had last time....as an example, DON'T MESS WITH THE DONATION AMOUNT, LEAVE IT AT $100. It worked, perfectly, don't change, it's not important, neither is the domain.
3) So, what is important? Answer; a) Let Trevor set the policy, you all back him up, we don't have ANY margin of error here, if you guys get Ron his Ten Million, you get him the nomination. Think about that for a minute...let's pretend for a minute that we are all bankers and that we hate risk...b) Launch the site in the next week...c) Start getting $100 pledges and let everyone know that THIS DEC 16TH, (I like that domain by the way..) Ron will raise $10m, that it's a mathmatical certain event, IF everyone keeps to their pledge. Let the people who want to donate more donate more no problem....d) Let it start building...e) All you EGO's out there, drop it or drop out, do you want to be right or do you want to win?
Get it going guys...history is waiting for you.
By the way my company is www.Battlefieldsports.com or our latest venue in Florida at www.hardknocksorlando.com 241 venues, in 27 countries with 2,000,000 players so we are not without some experience in the business or marketing arena...
$10M is a certain event if there is a 30 day build. Also, we have done some analysis here in Hollywood today and we estimate RP will raise $24-27 million dollars by end of Q4. Likely more than Hillary. The massive knock on effect after you boys raise the $10,000,000 on Dec 16th will bring in another $5,000,000 in the last two weeks and you will already be at a minimum of $10,000,000 at the end of November. Ron is not just in the top tier he will also be the number one money man. In US politics it's all the money honey. Go get it....

jmhelms
11-07-2007, 02:00 AM
How does this slogan sound? "No Taxation With Ron Paul Representation". I have a Facebook Group organizing around the December 16th moneybomb and I will be placing links to both teaparty07.com and thisdecember16th.com. Check out the Facebook group 96 and counting since yesterday. I held a one day contest for art work check out the image.http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6040948423

jmhelms
11-07-2007, 02:18 AM
Additionally a user on the Facebook group proposed: "get a bunch of custom coffee cup sleeves printed through a place like this http://www.javajacket.com/products.php go to a public even where it is cold and pass out hot chocolate with ron paul sleeves"

It seems like a really innovative way to hit the "tea" issue by giving out hot chocolate instead of tea (I don't know if everyone would readily make the connection or not). Just thought I would submit this idea too.

James R
11-07-2007, 02:19 AM
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James R
11-07-2007, 02:24 AM
Shaun, you are basically saying lets do what we did last time. Well, the first thing that was done last time is that a highly controversial theme was suggested. So, what highly controversial theme do you have in mind that would cause me to have intense fear that we are going to get a media attack?

Trevor's idea seemed to be a success only because of the intense controversy over the date. But is that what he intended? Did he choose the date because it was controversial? Or, did he chose it because "dood that would be cool". In my mind, Trevor took a stupid risk. That is why I DON'T want him leading the next event.

PS - But as for the $100 pledge, I agree with that now we should keep it the same.

wisconsinite
11-07-2007, 03:02 AM
I think Shaun has some good points. Keeping the $100 pledge keeps things simple and also ups the element of suspense of guessing how many will donate over and how many unpledged smaller donations will come in.
I probably would have only donated $50 if the Nov.5th drive didn't have the flat 100 pledge. I pledged when it was around 10,000 people because I wanted to help keep the momentum going. Before that I had planed on maybe just donating w/o pledging, but because I already pledged 100, I was motivated to keep my end of the deal. Does that make any sense?
Any argument about the day is meaningless at this point because this day is not controversial and already picked out. And actually the Tea Party day is better because of the symbolism that more people can relate too. With the added media exposure and increased build-up time, it could quite easily double the success of Nov 5th. We had 17,000 new donors, and at just above $100 average donation, there is great potential for repeat donors.

nathanielyao
11-07-2007, 07:24 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know that for the latest on the status of TeaParty07, please check the first post on this thread. Lots of stuff is happening and I will update the first post as often as I can

Sematary
11-07-2007, 07:31 AM
So when the hell is this thing going live?

McLane2007
11-07-2007, 07:35 AM
We can't expect the same 38,000 people to keep donating we need more support. Hit the pavement with your Slim Jims and hand them out to everyone that will take one. They only cost $5 for 100. Focus on older people they vote at a higher percentage than any other group.

Shaun
11-07-2007, 07:39 AM
To James R:
James; Hi, look what I'm saying is that this is now a simple job...get a cool site, go with Dec 16th, use the same plan as last time and let the math equation take over, we are now at a point where what we believe and what we don't believe doesn't matter as it relates to 10million bucks, in other words, IT'S ALREADY DONE, absent RP's death or a massive earthquake or 911 like event on the 16th Dec, there is no way to stop the donation amount in 40 days from now being 10m or more. Period. Done deal.
If you accept that then let's deal with the issue of getting this moving. The highly controversial theme is the Tea Party itself, it was the start of the revolution. It's perfect. It couldn't be better. Get Trevor involved as he is a proven winner and our group will get a double media hit when it's announced that the guy behind the USA's most successful online fundraising haul is doing it again on Dec 16th. Cafferty and the gang will love that, this time on the 16TH they will be watching the thing happen. You need your boy involved, he did it, he's the guy. Put feelings aside, this is about math and execution. They have experience, altitude and cred with the media. I have done a lot of TV interviews and media stuff in my life and we know how these guys think. Trevor is an important link for the media, they have already interviewed him...some of them have a relationship with him, what does that mean? It means they will turn to him when they see this thing exploding again. Just get this one point dead straight. When you guys raise RP 10M on Dec 16th, you will have changed US history. On Dec 17th the entire media apparatchik will have been rocked, because your boy RP will be number one fund raiser for the GOP. And your entire community will turn around and utter those immortal words, remembered on your death bed...yeah, thaaat's right....FUCK YOU FRANK oh and FUCK YOU AS WELL SEAN...
So, don't sweat the small stuff, just get the team on board, launch the sites (AFTER the 11th) and get everyone in the entire community pushing, pushing your Tea Party revolution and that will be everything that can be done to make sure RP raises 25 million in this quarter ( and he will, easily, again, it's just math at this point..) and then it depends on NH, he must win it. Second, might be enough but if he wins it, he's now got the $ to go all the way and then it's possible..
So, enough already from me, let's get on with fucking Frank over can we?

Shaun
11-07-2007, 07:43 AM
The same 38,000 will donate again and again, along with them will come another 50,000 between now and Dec 16th. At least. The coverage you guys got today will bring in another 10,000 supporters, check out the meetup.com stats. The campaign will more than double in the next 20 days. All that will explode on Dec 16th. Slim Jims are fine, it's all good stuff. But now the media is watching, and guess what? When we tell them that on Dec 16th we are doing another fundraising day, they will help promote it. I expect RP could outraise Billary this quarter.

TheEvilDetector
11-07-2007, 08:08 AM
Shaun, you are basically saying lets do what we did last time. Well, the first thing that was done last time is that a highly controversial theme was suggested. So, what highly controversial theme do you have in mind that would cause me to have intense fear that we are going to get a media attack?

Trevor's idea seemed to be a success only because of the intense controversy over the date. But is that what he intended? Did he choose the date because it was controversial? Or, did he chose it because "dood that would be cool". In my mind, Trevor took a stupid risk. That is why I DON'T want him leading the next event.

PS - But as for the $100 pledge, I agree with that now we should keep it the same.

It wasn't Trevor's idea, it was James Sugra's (youtube id: Jamsie567). Trevor made the website though a day or two after the initial 5th november video was released (15th/16th October)

James R
11-07-2007, 08:21 AM
It wasn't Trevor's idea, it was James Sugra's (youtube id: Jamsie567). Trevor made the website though a day or two after the initial 5th november video was released (15th/16th October)

So essentially, Trevor's only role was as web developer?

TechnoGuyRob
11-07-2007, 08:42 AM
So essentially, Trevor's only role was as web developer?

A man can have a thousand ideas, but in that same time only implement one! :) Either way, though, both of them were pioneers.

Adam0980
11-07-2007, 09:24 AM
This is in reference to the images in Nathaniel's first post. I think they could be better. In other words, I like the visual (the actual picture) the non colored image creates but I like the sense of color of the colored image. My question is to see if we can combine the two ideas. Combine some image that actual directly references the actual event with a nice colored scheme. The other idea I guess is to keep the visual as historical as possible. In that case, the less colored and modern it is the better.

KewlRonduderules
11-07-2007, 09:48 AM
this one is friggin' awesome!!!


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3858/bosteonteaparty12bwyk6.jpg

greves
11-07-2007, 09:50 AM
this one is friggin' awesome!!!


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3858/bosteonteaparty12bwyk6.jpg

Cool!

CavortingChicken
11-07-2007, 09:55 AM
Man lets get this website up already I'm getting antsy!!

Original_Intent
11-07-2007, 09:58 AM
If it hasn't been suggested yet, I think we should incorporate something like

"It is time to tell King George ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"

NinjaPirate
11-07-2007, 10:00 AM
this one is friggin' awesome!!!


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3858/bosteonteaparty12bwyk6.jpg

Haha, nice!

LFOD
11-07-2007, 10:04 AM
Now that is good. Really good. I'd like to see a high-res version posted somewhere, then people can make their own posters and stick em up!


[QUOTE=KewlRonduderules;369172]this one is friggin' awesome!!!

E. Nordstrom
11-07-2007, 10:19 AM
Dr. Ron Paul, Dr. Ron Paul, December 16 he'll Teabag them All!

ronpaulmoneybomb.com is in!

literatim
11-07-2007, 10:23 AM
Dr. Ron Paul, Dr. Ron Paul, December 16...

Stupidity.

theprolific
11-07-2007, 10:56 AM
Now that is good. Really good. I'd like to see a high-res version posted somewhere, then people can make their own posters and stick em up!


[QUOTE=KewlRonduderules;369172]this one is friggin' awesome!!!Cool I'll post a link to a high res version

literatim
11-07-2007, 11:00 AM
Now that is good. Really good. I'd like to see a high-res version posted somewhere, then people can make their own posters and stick em up!


Cool I'll post a link to a high res version


The message of it isn't clear. December 16th isn't prominent and there is no message of donating on December 16th.

James R
11-07-2007, 11:28 AM
To James R:
James; Hi, look what I'm saying is that this is now a simple job...get a cool site, go with Dec 16th, use the same plan as last time and let the math equation take over, we are now at a point where what we believe and what we don't believe doesn't matter as it relates to 10million bucks, in other words, IT'S ALREADY DONE, absent RP's death or a massive earthquake or 911 like event on the 16th Dec, there is no way to stop the donation amount in 40 days from now being 10m or more. Period. Done deal.
If you accept that then let's deal with the issue of getting this moving. The highly controversial theme is the Tea Party itself, it was the start of the revolution. It's perfect. It couldn't be better. Get Trevor involved as he is a proven winner and our group will get a double media hit when it's announced that the guy behind the USA's most successful online fundraising haul is doing it again on Dec 16th. Cafferty and the gang will love that, this time on the 16TH they will be watching the thing happen. You need your boy involved, he did it, he's the guy. Put feelings aside, this is about math and execution. They have experience, altitude and cred with the media. I have done a lot of TV interviews and media stuff in my life and we know how these guys think. Trevor is an important link for the media, they have already interviewed him...some of them have a relationship with him, what does that mean? It means they will turn to him when they see this thing exploding again. Just get this one point dead straight. When you guys raise RP 10M on Dec 16th, you will have changed US history. On Dec 17th the entire media apparatchik will have been rocked, because your boy RP will be number one fund raiser for the GOP. And your entire community will turn around and utter those immortal words, remembered on your death bed...yeah, thaaat's right....FUCK YOU FRANK oh and FUCK YOU AS WELL SEAN...
So, don't sweat the small stuff, just get the team on board, launch the sites (AFTER the 11th) and get everyone in the entire community pushing, pushing your Tea Party revolution and that will be everything that can be done to make sure RP raises 25 million in this quarter ( and he will, easily, again, it's just math at this point..) and then it depends on NH, he must win it. Second, might be enough but if he wins it, he's now got the $ to go all the way and then it's possible..
So, enough already from me, let's get on with fucking Frank over can we?

Shaun, you are right. And Trevor is in charge now.

James

LFOD
11-07-2007, 11:48 AM
The message of it isn't clear. December 16th isn't prominent and there is no message of donating on December 16th.

I disagree. I think all the info is there. It's a great image. It's definitely interesting enough to get people to go to the site and learn more, and that's the whole point.

Itzsoez
11-07-2007, 12:47 PM
Please check this out and let me know what you think.

goto teaparty07.com and click the ronpal2008.com link

notice that the web address did not change!
now go to the donate page and notice that the page is NOT secure and the web address still says teaparty07.com. I would NOT donate on this page.

if you go to ronpaul2008 directly and click the donate link, that page is secure!

this looks like a scam to me!:mad:

setting up a direct link to another website is easy and it should show ronpaul2008.com NOT teaparty07.com

KewlRonduderules
11-07-2007, 01:03 PM
Please check this out and let me know what you think.

goto teaparty07.com and click the ronpal2008.com link

notice that the web address did not change!
now go to the donate page and notice that the page is NOT secure and the web address still says teaparty07.com. I would NOT donate on this page.

if you go to ronpaul2008 directly and click the donate link, that page is secure!

this looks like a scam to me!:mad:

setting up a direct link to another website is easy and it should show ronpaul2008.com NOT teaparty07.com


You need to chill. It is not a scam. The ronpaul2008 is legitimite. Look at the bottom left of your screen when it is loading. It is the correct site. The teaparty07 site is being worked on right now. That is just a template.

Mrossca
11-07-2007, 01:12 PM
I just have to say I love this idea =)

Itzsoez
11-07-2007, 01:13 PM
KewlRonduderules

I have designed websites before and see no legitimate reason for the teaparty07 website to do what it's doing.

NO CHILL 'til I get some answers.

Soccrmastr
11-07-2007, 01:15 PM
Guys: It's simple:

1) Let the guys who made History yesterday advise on this..
2) DUPLICATE yesterday.
3) SINGLE focus, one day, one event, let's make History..
4) Make absolutely sure the servers and infrastructure will handle the load at RonPaul2008..
5) Follow the same structure as yesterday..
6) Make it simple, simple, simple. The web site name is teaparty07.com..it's all ready all over the media, get used to it...
7) Start the promo 21 days out...
8) Be proud when you raise him 10m and create a new paradigm in the USA..

Now follow the lead of Taco man and focus on this.
If you do this, our man wins. Everything else is a sideshow.
We have to pick the areas where we can have the biggest impact.
This is it.
God, when you raise him 10 M in a day, other countries will start supporting him...
There will never be another opportunity like Dec 16th again, it's prove, it's big symbology and it's acheivable.
Get the guys from the 5th and get this going....ASAP. There is nothing else to debate.

You are ABSOLUTELY correct with your 8 point list.

Green Mountain Boy
11-07-2007, 01:18 PM
KewlRonduderules

I have designed websites before and see no legitimate reason for the teaparty07 website to do what it's doing.

NO CHILL 'til I get some answers.

What is it doing? The link is not doing anything unusual.

KewlRonduderules
11-07-2007, 01:18 PM
KewlRonduderules

I have designed websites before and see no legitimate reason for the teaparty07 website to do what it's doing.

NO CHILL 'til I get some answers.


Who are you to come in here and demand answers. You are new and starting post that is confrontational does not bode well for you.

Don't get hostile. Relax. The site is legitimate.

If you have problems, pm the designer and ask him/her about it. Here is the ID under this thread :

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=28407


FYI, it's fine!

You want to have good relations with people in here, I suggest you start being less confrontational and accusatory.

Itzsoez
11-07-2007, 01:26 PM
the only reason I joined this forum was because the taeparty07 site looked like a scam and I needed to tell someone. I just want to make sure that all donations goto Ron Paul and not some clever web page designer.

everyone should be concerned!

KewlRonduderules
11-07-2007, 01:28 PM
the only reason I joined this forum was because the taeparty07 site looked like a scam and I needed to tell someone. I just want to make sure that all donations goto Ron Paul and not some clever web page designer.

everyone should be concerned!


FYI, the site is not live and loads only a template.


Have you PM'd the owners so they can answer you question?