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Zatch
03-18-2011, 09:11 PM
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201103180044

Nate-ForLiberty
03-18-2011, 09:39 PM
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sailingaway
03-18-2011, 09:57 PM
Beck is just a sensitive man....

Knightskye
03-18-2011, 09:59 PM
I don't see what you and Media Matters are talking about.

steve005
03-18-2011, 11:15 PM
Beck=media clown, controled opposition

Stary Hickory
03-19-2011, 12:23 AM
I too dont see it, kinda gets old when people just go out of their way to bash Beck. He makes some legit comments that are worthy of bashing but when people pick at this stuff and try to twist it, it shows an agenda and a lack of objectivity.

So he said can you believe France is actually leading the world for military intervention and not the US....legitimate statement, it is odd, who would have thought that a few years ago.

Then he says he is worried about another war breaking out there, fine thats cool too. Nothing crazy about these things that were said. Now Beck can say some dumb stuff, but trying to make something out of nothing is just showing a lack of objectivity. I am sure he will say something neoconnish, he hasnt shaken it all out. But those comments don't contradict each other as they are in that article.

JohnEngland
03-19-2011, 02:10 AM
If it's on Media Matters, I have absolutely no interest in it. That organisation's entire raison d'etre is to attack, smear and lie about conservatives. It's utterly shameful.

eduardo89
03-19-2011, 07:49 AM
Beck is an idiot.

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 08:42 AM
I don't see what you and Media Matters are talking about.

I agree. This thread is stupid.

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 08:45 AM
Beck Upset Obama Didn’t Act On Libya -- Then, 20 Seconds Later, Upset That He Did

Glenn Beck said nothing like that. Beck was shocked France would be the first to jump on Libya.

speciallyblend
03-19-2011, 08:46 AM
can we please just make a website for beck so we do not have to read becks crap on rpf?? beck is a douchebag!!! Josh i will pay you to ban beck threads!! At least beck makes me look normal;) i guess that is a positive!!

Feeding the Abscess
03-19-2011, 08:49 AM
“If I would have told you a year ago that France would lead -- that France would be the one that says, ‘You know what? I’m tired of waiting around. We’ll send our planes, and we’ll bomb.’ And America would say, [crying noise]. Would you have believed that a year ago?”

This, plus Beck's tone, was clearly critical of America's decision to not spearhead the no-fly zone movement (weird assessment on Beck's part, we weren't exactly against a no-fly zone), insinuating that we're wimpy and crying in the corner while another country leads the way.

“America is involved in the third front. If I would have told you four weeks ago that America may now be involved in a war -- in a third war in a third Muslim country in the Middle East, would you have believed me? I believe I did say words similar to that right over there, that it would sweep, destabilize, and drag us all down. We’re in a third war, a third front. God help us all if it all boils over in Libya.”

Kind of obvious.

Beck speaks out of both sides of his mouth all the time, this is nothing new.

TomtheTinker
03-19-2011, 08:52 AM
I said it once I will say it a million time Beck's job is to CONFUSE people.

I use to enjoy Beck's show(not Beck himself)..it had a good platform, great guests and interesting convos you couldn't find anywhere else on cable.

Now for the last year+ it just seems he rambles on and on with no conclusions to any of his thoughts and when he does come to a conclusion it normally contradicts something he said 3 minutes before that. I really truly believe its his job to confuse his viewers.

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 08:56 AM
So Glenn Beck is Against military action in Libya.

okay.

speciallyblend
03-19-2011, 09:02 AM
So Glenn Beck is Against military action in Libya.

okay.

if you believe that i can sell you a bridge for 1 dolla!! beck doesn't believe anything! He flips/waffles more then pancakes/waffles!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gm6JYFdnD8

i thought this was funny until i heard this was true, then i just laughed out loud!! nothing against mormons just find it odd!!

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 09:10 AM
if you believe that i can sell you a bridge for 1 dolla!! beck doesn't believe anything! He flips/waffles more then pancakes/waffles!

Show me where Glenn Beck supports military action in Libya.

crazyfacedjenkins
03-19-2011, 09:17 AM
“If I would have told you a year ago that France would lead -- that France would be the one that says, ‘You know what? I’m tired of waiting around. We’ll send our planes, and we’ll bomb.’ And America would say, [crying noise]. Would you have believed that a year ago?”

This, plus Beck's tone, was clearly critical of America's decision to not spearhead the no-fly zone movement (weird assessment on Beck's part, we weren't exactly against a no-fly zone), insinuating that we're wimpy and crying in the corner while another country leads the way.

“America is involved in the third front. If I would have told you four weeks ago that America may now be involved in a war -- in a third war in a third Muslim country in the Middle East, would you have believed me? I believe I did say words similar to that right over there, that it would sweep, destabilize, and drag us all down. We’re in a third war, a third front. God help us all if it all boils over in Libya.”

Kind of obvious.

Beck speaks out of both sides of his mouth all the time, this is nothing new.

I can't believe there are people on this forum who weren't able to catch that.

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 09:30 AM
If it's on Media Matters, I have absolutely no interest in it.

so why comment on the thread if y ouaren't going to allow yuorself to see the thing the thread is about



That organisation's entire raison d'etre is to attack, smear and lie about conservatives

what's wrong with that?


He's clearly talking out of both sides of his mouth and the GOP has been doing this for the entire crisis in the middle east. I don't think they even care what happens there they just want to talk about Obama and Obama is handling this and what is Obama doing.

Obama is not doing anything particualrly noteable in his "handling" of the middle east situation. The United States has very little to do with what is happening there.


GOP has PLENTY of other stuff to make hay over.

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 09:33 AM
That organisation's entire raison d'etre is to attack, smear and lie about conservatives


what's wrong with that?


You're asking what's wrong with Smearing and Lying? Seriously?

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 09:37 AM
I meant what's wrong with a group focusing on conservatives. and its not smearing or lying it's got the clip right there.

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 09:40 AM
I meant what's wrong with a group focusing on conservatives. and its not smearing or lying it's got the clip right there.

I watched the clip. MediaMatters and this thread is B.S.

Glenn Beck is Against military action in Libya.

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 09:56 AM
he may well be against it, but in the clip he is trying to have his cake and eat it to. He is clearly implying that FRANCE is being tough and the US is being wimpy. He is saying his own position is wimpy basically. which it isn't. It was a salient point and they caught him on it.

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 10:02 AM
he may well be against it, but in the clip he is trying to have his cake and eat it to. He is clearly implying that FRANCE is being tough and the US is being wimpy. He is saying his own position is wimpy basically. which it isn't. It was a salient point and they caught him on it.

No, Glenn Beck was surprised that France did get involved.

Glenn Beck was "implying" ?? That's pretty weak to accuse Glenn Beck.

RM918
03-19-2011, 10:22 AM
No, Glenn Beck was surprised that France did get involved.

Glenn Beck was "implying" ?? That's pretty weak to accuse Glenn Beck.

Come on Frank, that whiney noise was not the noise of 'huh, how about that'. People love to go after Beck, he has good things to say at times but things like this make him seem not nearly as reliable on that when it comes to foreign policy.

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 10:25 AM
Come on Frank, that whiney noise was not the noise of 'huh, how about that'. People love to go after Beck, he has good things to say at times but things like this make him seem not nearly as reliable on that when it comes to foreign policy.

Glenn Beck doesn't support military action in Libya. Get over it.

RM918
03-19-2011, 10:30 AM
Glenn Beck doesn't support military action in Libya. Get over it.

Maybe he doesn't, but that comment before was very clearly him trying to have it both ways and using France's action purely for a partisan attack. If you're against the action, you can't imply that our government is whiny for not being the first ones to initiate it.

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 10:32 AM
Maybe he doesn't, but that comment before was very clearly him trying to have it both ways and using France's action purely for a partisan attack. If you're against the action, you can't imply that our government is whiny for not being the first ones to initiate it.

Glenn Beck doesn't support military action in Libya. Get over it.

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 10:40 AM
he valorized France's war efforts and made a baby sound to represent the US.

I'm not implying anything, its all there on the tape. What he actually thinks isn't the issue, what he's saying is. He is clearly taking both positions and one of them is for it.

Why are you defending him?

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 10:46 AM
He does support it. he valorized France's war efforts and made a baby sound to represent the US.

Glenn Beck is against America being in a Third Front war. You did miss that part?

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 10:48 AM
that's your opinion

FrankRep
03-19-2011, 10:50 AM
that's your opinion

That's Glenn Beck's opinion. Glenn Beck doesn't want America to get involved in Libya.

Vessol
03-19-2011, 10:51 AM
Guys, I hate to defend Beck, but FrankRep is right.

Listen to the clip, he's making a joke about France.

"Who would've believe two years ago that France would lead a bombing mission into another country?"

That's what he said, he said nothing about wanting the U.S to join in.

Zatch
03-19-2011, 10:54 AM
Glenn Beck doesn't support military action in Libya. Get over it.

Have you watched Glenn Beck much? He does this stuff all the time. He says he supports legalization of marijuana and then portrays it as a kooky idea only far left hippies support. He says WikiLeaks has a right to exist while saying they are INTENTIONALLY trying to destroy the United States. He's supposedly against the PATRIOT Act yet the whole week when the PATRIOT Act is being reauthorized he's ranting about how a Muslim Caliphate is about to destroy us all. It seems like for most libertarian positions he takes he tries to give you every reason not to agree with him.

Vessol
03-19-2011, 10:56 AM
Have you watched Glenn Beck much? He does this stuff all the time. He says he supports legalization of marijuana and then portrays it as a kooky idea only far left hippies support. He says WikiLeaks has a right to exist while saying they are INTENTIONALLY trying to destroy the United States. He's supposedly against the PATRIOT Act yet the whole week when the PATRIOT Act is being reauthorized he's ranting about how a Muslim Caliphate is about to destroy us all. It seems like for most libertarian positions he takes he tries to give you every reason not to agree with him.

I know, but watch the clip that MediaMatters shows. He isn't saying "bomb Libya", he's just surprised that France is leading the push to do so. The old "haha, France are pansies joke". So both MediaMatters and this thread are deliberately misleading.

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 11:01 AM
frankrep- only he knows what he believes. he did not make that clear in that clip

Vessol
03-19-2011, 11:05 AM
frankrep- only he knows what he believes. he did not make that clear in that clip

How did he make it sound like he wanted America involved in Libya?

Please, use a specific quote.

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 11:14 AM
here

"On today’s edition of his Fox News show, Beck said of Libya, “If I would have told you a year ago that France would lead -- that France would be the one that says, ‘You know what? I’m tired of waiting around. We’ll send our planes, and we’ll bomb.’ And America would say, [crying noise]. Would you have believed that a year ago?”

Vessol
03-19-2011, 11:15 AM
What did he say where he supported the US bombing Libya?

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 11:28 AM
right there. he says we are being little babies and france is being honorable and tough.

Vessol
03-19-2011, 11:29 AM
That's a whole lot of inferring.

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 11:32 AM
where does he say he doesn't specifically in that clip? you're inferring that too.

also note the end when he said "who would have believed that America would turn against Israel?"

what a depressing and ridiculous show.

Vessol
03-19-2011, 11:39 AM
He said: Who would've believed that France would lead a bombing mission into another country. That's all he said.

How am I inferring that?

I'm not a Beck fan at all, I hate his guts usually, but I'm not going to sit here and lie to myself.

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 11:44 AM
I think you are giving him a benefit of the doubt he doesn't deserve.

Jack Bauer
03-19-2011, 11:46 AM
I think you are giving him a benefit of the doubt he doesn't deserve.

Better than accusing him of something through inference. ;)

lester1/2jr
03-19-2011, 11:47 AM
well he should be a little more careful about the way he phrases things next time. The article isn't calling for him to be arrested it's just pointing out that it certainly appeared as though he was playing both sides of the fence.

Vessol
03-19-2011, 11:50 AM
I think you are giving him a benefit of the doubt he doesn't deserve.

Trust me, I don't give Beck the benefit of the doubt. I hate that snake.

But there really is no ambiguity in what he is saying there.

MediaMatters is deliberately using misleading stories.

TheeJoeGlass
03-19-2011, 02:50 PM
Glenn Beck said nothing like that. Beck was shocked France would be the first to jump on Libya.

That's how I took it. I would love to understand exactly how America turned on Israel though.

easycougar
03-19-2011, 03:07 PM
Why so much analysis on what Beck says or didn't say? Plenty worse talking heads out there.

TroySmith
03-19-2011, 03:46 PM
To be clear, this is what Beck has said this week about Libya,

1) That it was improper for Obama to urge and uprising there and then provide no support. He doesn't want to be in Libya period, but pointed out how the administration seems to be mishandling the situation. He doesn't support Qadaffi, but points out that it isn't even clear who the opposition is to be urging the youth to revolt.

Also, mediamatters is little more than a socialist propaganda machine. It makes MSNBC and some of Fox's show's (like O'donnel or Hannity) look like brilliant objective journalism.

speciallyblend
03-19-2011, 07:21 PM
Show me where Glenn Beck supports military action in Libya.

i dont have to i wasn't addressing that. i am just saying beck needs his own forums! This is ron paul forums not i hate or love beck forums!! My personal opinion of beck is he is a liar and a fraud and a media whore nothing more! in short a douchebag!! now if you wants facts on my opinion i think we have years of his nonsense to prove it! you already know beck is a media whore just admit you like whores!!

speciallyblend
03-19-2011, 07:25 PM
To be clear, this is what Beck has said this week about Libya,

1) That it was improper for Obama to urge and uprising there and then provide no support. He doesn't want to be in Libya period, but pointed out how the administration seems to be mishandling the situation. He doesn't support Qadaffi, but points out that it isn't even clear who the opposition is to be urging the youth to revolt.

Also, mediamatters is little more than a socialist propaganda machine. It makes MSNBC and some of Fox's show's (like O'donnel or Hannity) look like brilliant objective journalism.

beck knows the answers to all his problems;) Ron Paul 2012 , on that note beck is nothing more then a media whore liar to me with nothing but bs to say and doing nothing to solve the problems with solutions! Ron paul 2012 is the solution but beck has no interest in solutions just ratings making him nothing more then a rating whore aka whore!

doodle
03-19-2011, 07:26 PM
Beck is bi winning polar.

HOLLYWOOD
03-19-2011, 07:31 PM
I said it once I will say it a million time Beck's job is to CONFUSE people.

I use to enjoy Beck's show(not Beck himself)..it had a good platform, great guests and interesting convos you couldn't find anywhere else on cable.

Now for the last year+ it just seems he rambles on and on with no conclusions to any of his thoughts and when he does come to a conclusion it normally contradicts something he said 3 minutes before that. I really truly believe its his job to confuse his viewers.

^^^^THANK YOU!

Would members realize the Corporate media is 4th branch of this Fascist Government and rewarded for their Propaganda Agenda. Stop listening to these MSM Marionettes that will do anything for their huge paychecks and perks.