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Fire11
03-17-2011, 08:35 AM
World nuclear power plants business in many multi-billions dollars worth.

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Gundersen: But the nasty isotopes — the cesium and strontium will remain for 30 years. And they’re volatile. Within 90 days, the iodine health risks will disappear, because that will decay away.

After Three Mile Island, strontium was detected 150 miles away from the reactor. That ends up in cow’s milk and doesn’t go away for 300 years. The releases from these plants will last for a year, and will contain elements that will remain in the environment for 300 years, even in the best case.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/japan/110314/japan-nuclear-meltdown-disaster

Chernobyl reactor had 190 tonnes of uranium. Japan has 6 reactors with 100 tonnes each/ 600 tonnes. 100 nukes is just 10 tonnes, if that.

Reactors contain years worth of uranium fuel. Nuclear bombs contain a lot of nuclear fuel too but it's almost entirely consumed in producing the explosion, bomb fallout is actually stuff like bomb casing material and dirt and building debris that is irradiated by the gamma wave blast. It's pretty radiaoactive for a while but is gone after a few months. A nuclear reactor meltdown wouldn't consume the nuclear fuel, so the area around it would be poisoned for centuries by a large amount of long half-life radioactive material.

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600,000 spent fuel rods Fukushima Daiichi plant contains

The Fukushima Daiichi plant has seven pools dedicated to spent fuel rods. These are located at the top of six reactor buildings – or were until explosions and fires ravaged the plant. On the ground level there is a common pool in a separate building that was critical damaged by the tsunami. Each reactor building pool holds 3,450 fuel rod assemblies and the common pool holds 6,291 fuel rod assemblies. Each assembly holds sixty-three fuel rods. In short, the Fukushima Daiichi plant contains over 600,000 spent fuel rods – a massive amount of radiation that will soon be released into the atmosphere.

http://www.infowars.com/alert-fukushima-coverup-40-years-of-spent-nuclear-rods-blown-sky-high/

2 days back somebody had said to me there has been a underground explosion. Nuclear weapons are stored underground. There is a possibility that a nuclear bomb has exploded in Japan. Maybe somebody is hiding some information.

Maybe Japan was developing nuclear weapons secretly. Good possibility. But the USA brings nuclear weapons into port... secretly, or at least with secret permission from the Japanese government

Nuclear power plants are for creation/growth whereas Nuclear weapons are for destruction. Now if creation causes destruction then shut down all nuclear power plants.

Nuclear energy/power is the most destructive creation of mankind. Why do humans play with nuclear energy? There will be no more new nuclear power plants.

Reduce electricity consumption by 50%. Use wood fire to roast meat. Roasted meat is the best. When you use wood fire to cook food, the ash is rich with nutrients and provides the best fertilizer for trees and plants. This will cut nuclear power and coal produced electricity by 50%.

31 USA reactors are similar in design to ones failing in Japan. USA has nearly 100 nuclear reactors.

The very word Tsunami is Japanese. The history of Japan is Tsunami. Yet every single redundant back up has failed after a Tsunami. How's that for perspective?

When Chernobyl exploded 100 000 people got cancer all over Europe and Russia over the next 10 years.

As for Chernobyl, facts are this:

* For the 14 years since the disaster 300,000 died in Ukraine alone from the radiation sickness

* The releases contaminated an estimated 17 million people to some degree.

* 143,000 people have been evacuated from contaminated areas of Ukraine

* 600,000 people took part in liquidating effects of the disaster, 100,000 of which already died or are now handicapped

* Cases of leucosis and thyroid cancer exceed average by 2 and 5 times correspondingly among the Chernobyl victims.

* There are 1.8 million people residing on the territories of Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus, which are still defined as contaminated

I read articles about nuclear waste storage problems in France (80% of their power is from nukes).

Why not just use coal? I have nothing against nuclear power but why bother when we have so much coal available?

I am convinced even if we had the world's largest supply of oil easily obtainable we would try and find something else to use.

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Do you believe investors will walk away from new nuclear plants in US due to fallout from 3/11 tragedy in Japan?

Ranking Member Markey on Nuclear power plants near fault lines

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmxzhiCxcl8&feature=player_embedded#at=26

BREAKING NEWS: NUCLEAR ACCIDENT JUST UPGRADED TO LEVEL 6 out of 7

The ongoing nuclear accident at the Japanese central Fukushima reached level 6 gravity on the international level that are 7, said today the president of the Nuclear Safety Authority (ASN), Andre-Claude Lacoste.
Level 7 has been reached only once in the world

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China halts new nuclear build as Japan crisis worsens

China has become the latest country to suspend its nuclear programme in response to the ongoing crisis at the Fukushima nuclear plant, announcing that new projects will not be approved until improved safety rules are ready.

China has 25 new plants under construction as part of plans to expand its nuclear capacity from 10.8GW to 86GW by 2020.

But the State Council issued a statement today confirming it would indefinitely suspend safety approvals for new plants until new safety rules are in place, and step up inspections on existing plants. However, it gave no indication on when improved safety rules would be in place.

India and South Korea have already put the brakes on new nuclear build programmes for safety reasons, while in Europe, Switzerland and Germany are reassessing their nuclear plans as the situation continues to worsen in Japan.

http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/news/2034460/china-halts-nuclear-build-asjapan-crisis-worsens

Matt Collins
03-26-2011, 08:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD40J45zjIM&feature=uploademail

Fire11
03-31-2011, 08:25 AM
Nevertheless, Lochbaum and the Union of Concerned Scientists found 14 "near misses" at nuclear plants in 2010. And there were 56 serious violations at nuclear power plants from 2007 to 2011, according the ABC News review of NRC records.

At the Dresden Nuclear Power Plant in Illinois, for instance, which is located within 50 miles of the 7 million people who live in and around Chicago, nuclear material went missing in 2007. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission fined the operator -- Exelon Corp. -- after discovering the facility had failed to "keep complete records showing the inventory [and] disposal of all special nuclear material in its possession."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-nuclear-power-plants-safe/story?id=13246490

doodle
03-31-2011, 10:08 AM
Looks like brakes are being applied all around the world following 3/11 tragedy

kahless
03-31-2011, 11:16 AM
Just like the Democrats are owned by the teachers unions, the Republicans are owned by the nuclear energy lobby and the electrical unions. It even looks like Ron Paul sold out his values so we are all perpetual tax slaves to government and the nuclear power industry for generations to come. The Progressives that now control the Democrat party are also pro-nuclear. So based on the unified cheerleading for nuclear energy, nothing will change in the US.

We will likely have our own disaster to deal with in the future due to the godly perfectionist pedistal which our aggregious profits before safety energy companies have been placed. Remember, radiation is good for you now.

jmdrake
03-31-2011, 12:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD40J45zjIM&feature=uploademail

@ 2:40 in "As you notice all of the heavily subsidized by the government energy sources {nuclear, clean coal, solar} are super expensive". What a surprise. ;) :collins:

ds21089
03-31-2011, 12:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD40J45zjIM&feature=uploademail

About the whole "deaths" comparison, can people sabotage coal plants and kill off as many people as they would if they sabotaged nuclear plants? I mean this is data from the past, which is nothing like what's going on right now. I'm not sure how much I can trust somebody from France to be honest anyway. I'm keeping any "expert" from US, UK, or France off my list of people to believe unless they've had an extensive record of being accurate and reporting the truth.

goldencane
03-31-2011, 12:37 PM
Regardless of whether nuclear power is safe or not, if it ever becomes the cheapest source of energy, it will be used.

Fire11
03-31-2011, 04:25 PM
Regardless of whether nuclear power is safe or not, if it ever becomes the cheapest source of energy, it will be used.
Cost per kilowatt hour of electricity. Source MIT:

Nuclear: $0.08

Coal: $0.06

Gas: $0.07

Projected $/megawatt hour of electricity in 2016

Conventional natural Gas: $75

Conventional Coal: $105

Wind: $102

Nuclear $125

Clean coal: $145

Solar PV: $210

Myth 1: Nuclear power is a cheap alternative to fossil fuels.

Fact 1: Nuclear energy is a very costly business.

Myth 2: The main issue surrounding Nuclear power is safety.

Fact 2: The cost is the main issue.

Bloomberg Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD40J45zjIM

kahless
03-31-2011, 04:50 PM
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idirtify
03-31-2011, 04:50 PM
Cost per kilowatt hour of electricity. Source MIT:

Nuclear: $0.08

Coal: $0.06

Gas: $0.07

Projected $/megawatt hour of electricity in 2016

Conventional natural Gas: $75

Conventional Coal: $105

Wind: $102

Nuclear $125

Clean coal: $145

Solar PV: $210

Myth 1: Nuclear power is a cheap alternative to fossil fuels.

Fact 1: Nuclear energy is a very costly business.

Myth 2: The main issue surrounding Nuclear power is safety.

Fact 2: The cost is the main issue.

Bloomberg Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD40J45zjIM

I’m guessing myth number two could be a myth. Isn’t most of the cost of nuclear plants spent on safety measures? If so, that would refute the idea that safety is not the main issue.