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aspiringconstitutionalist
03-12-2011, 08:30 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/jimmy_wales/statuses/29834979840098304

Jimmy Wales, outspoken libertarian and founder of Wikipedia, wants to know if he should challenge Sen. Nelson in Florida! Tell him "YES!!!"

http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales
http://draftjimmywales.wordpress.com
http://www.Facebook.com/jimmywales2012

"Freedom, liberty, individual rights, that idea of dealing with other people in a matter that is not initiating force against them, is critical to me." - Jimmy Wales

Andrew-Austin
03-12-2011, 09:10 PM
Didn't know he was a libertarian, cool..

shanajk
03-12-2011, 09:59 PM
He is libertarian- Randian- but he's not really political at all. And he's also incredibly busy running Wikia.com, the Wikimedia Foundation and taking care of kiddos. He doesn't state-hop when he travels, or even country-hop. He continent-hops. I showed him the Draft Jimmy page at Facebook when it first came out and he just laughed. He was flattered though.

trey4sports
03-12-2011, 10:24 PM
He is libertarian- Randian- but he's not really political at all. And he's also incredibly busy running Wikia.com, the Wikimedia Foundation and taking care of kiddos. He doesn't state-hop when he travels, or even country-hop. He continent-hops. I showed him the Draft Jimmy page at Facebook when it first came out and he just laughed. He was flattered though.

Based on that I'm guessing your fairly close to Jimmy? Please let us know if there is anything the grassroots can do to help sway his mind :D

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-12-2011, 11:52 PM
From all the political videos and articles out there from him, he must be at least fairly political. Heck, the guy has admitted to thinking about running for Senate. The fact that he hasn't dismissed the idea outright is a positive sign.

AZKing
03-12-2011, 11:52 PM
Didn't know he was a libertarian, cool..

Following:

SenJohnMcCain
newtgingrich

hmm... ;)

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-13-2011, 12:16 AM
Following:

SenJohnMcCain
newtgingrich

hmm... ;)

He follows the Twitter accounts of tons of famous or significant figures and organizations from all different viewpoints. His following list includes everyone from Al Gore to Bjorn Lumborg to Oprah to Wikileaks etc,

Aldanga
03-13-2011, 01:05 AM
Reason (http://reason.com/archives/2007/05/30/wikipedia-and-beyond) did a writeup on Jimmy Wales back in '07. I've only read the third page—which I found quite compelling, given that it covers some of his political views—but the rest of it looks like a good read.

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-13-2011, 04:16 PM
Bump! Tweet Jimmy Wales and show him he has the support to run!!

Thomas
03-13-2011, 05:03 PM
bump!

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-13-2011, 06:41 PM
I can't divulge much at this point, but we have been in direct contact with Jimmy, and the official word is that he's curious about it but needs to see that he would have the support to win. PLEASE join our FB group and spread the link to all your liberty minded and Republican friends and family! We need to get as many supporters behind this as we can, as soon as possible! Thanks guys!!

Aldanga
03-13-2011, 06:57 PM
I personally need to know more about him and his positions before pledging any support.

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-13-2011, 07:04 PM
I personally need to know more about him and his positions before pledging any support.

http://draftjimmywales.wordpress.com/on-the-issues/

trey4sports
03-13-2011, 11:03 PM
Seems like the real deal.

Aldanga
03-13-2011, 11:56 PM
http://draftjimmywales.wordpress.com/on-the-issues/

All but one of those cite the Reason article, which I've already read. It's far too general and doesn't contain enough information to satisfy me.

low preference guy
03-13-2011, 11:58 PM
All but one of those cite the Reason article, which I've already read. It's far too general and doesn't contain enough information to satisfy me.

Wales will oppose efforts to regulate the internet. That's good enough for me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0suY1pMJN08

I think he also took a course in Austrian Economics at Mises. Mark Thornton was his professor.


It was founded by Jimmy Wales, a man who picked up his Hayekianism from his professor Mark Thornton and went on to apply the idea of spontaneous order to changing the world.

Link (http://blog.mises.org/14607/the-mises-wiki/)

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-14-2011, 12:17 AM
Just based on those two sources alone, it looks like ideologically Wales is at least somewhere between Mike Lee and Rand Paul. (And who knows? Possibly even more libertarian than Rand.) Fiscal libertarian of the Austrian variety, social federalist, and a non-neoconservative (possibly even a full noninterventionist) on foreign policy. Good enough for me.

low preference guy
03-14-2011, 12:21 AM
Just based on those two sources alone, it looks like ideologically Wales is at least somewhere between Mike Lee and Rand Paul. (And who knows? Possibly even more libertarian than Rand.) Fiscal libertarian of the Austrian variety, social federalist, and a non-neoconservative (possibly even a full noninterventionist) on foreign policy. Good enough for me.

i don't think wales has an intellectual foundation in liberty as solid as Rand's. but he is still better than Nelson, by far.

R3volutionJedi
03-14-2011, 06:08 AM
was Jimmy Wales a Ron Paul supporter?

Thomas
03-14-2011, 06:05 PM
was Jimmy Wales a Ron Paul supporter?

you can see if he donated in the fec records

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-15-2011, 12:03 AM
you can see if he donated in the fec records

Doesn't look like he's ever donated to or publically endorsed any candidate before. His views are certainly well aligned with Ron Paul. :)

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 12:37 AM
LOL! The guy that even has open pederasts on his wikipedia team? The guy that makes sure that every not-power-friendly entry is deleted?

I smell Goldwater v2.0

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-15-2011, 10:18 AM
LOL! The guy that even has open pederasts on his wikipedia team? The guy that makes sure that every not-power-friendly entry is deleted?

I smell Goldwater v2.0

What?

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 10:34 AM
What?

http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/05/08/erik-moller-wmf/

And thats just the tip of the iceberg. There is plenty more of you search.

Also that whole wikipedia thing is run in a very tyranical fashion. Just search and stop being lazy.

Besides, what would you espect from a pornographer?

sailingaway
03-15-2011, 10:53 AM
Actually, my first reaction to anyone who sets themselves up as the guy to 'sort them out', is 'no thanks.' Too much ego is too easily used to manipulate politicians in DC. Personally, I think McCain isn't corrupt as in bought and sold for money, he goes where his ego leads him. But it amounts to the same thing.

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-15-2011, 03:29 PM
http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/05/08/erik-moller-wmf/

And thats just the tip of the iceberg. There is plenty more of you search.

Also that whole wikipedia thing is run in a very tyranical fashion. Just search and stop being lazy.

Besides, what would you espect from a pornographer?

As a longtime Wikipedia editor, I really beg to differ that Wikipedia is run in a "tyrannical fashion". If anything, it's run in the exact opposite manner of tyranny.

To all that other stuff, I have a single response:
So?

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 04:14 PM
As a longtime Wikipedia editor, I really beg to differ that Wikipedia is run in a "tyrannical fashion". If anything, it's run in the exact opposite manner of tyranny.

To all that other stuff, I have a single response:
So?

You are at the lower part of the hierarchy of the highly compartimentalized power pyramid. The fact that you are a wikiPEDO editor means nothing.

PEDOPHILE

trey4sports
03-15-2011, 04:19 PM
As a longtime Wikipedia editor, I really beg to differ that Wikipedia is run in a "tyrannical fashion". If anything, it's run in the exact opposite manner of tyranny.

To all that other stuff, I have a single response:
So?


Nevermind 00_Pete, he is the resident crazy :D

JK

.....Err.... maybe not.... :confused:

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 04:23 PM
Nevermind 00_Pete, he is the resident crazy :D

JK

.....Err.... maybe not.... :confused:

No, i can read. He blatantly wrote "So?" regarding all the promotion of pedophilia/pederastry going on in Wikipedia...

gls
03-15-2011, 04:34 PM
Actually, my first reaction to anyone who sets themselves up as the guy to 'sort them out', is 'no thanks.' Too much ego is too easily used to manipulate politicians in DC. Personally, I think McCain isn't corrupt as in bought and sold for money, he goes where his ego leads him. But it amounts to the same thing.

I see what you're saying but ego isn't necessarily a bad thing if it's tied down by principle (for example Peter Schiff isn't the most humble guy in the world but he still would make a great U.S. Senator).

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-15-2011, 05:30 PM
Nevermind 00_Pete, he is the resident crazy :D

Ah, gotcha...

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 05:46 PM
Ah, gotcha...

Im not the one promoting PEDOPHILIA

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-15-2011, 06:39 PM
Im not the one promoting PEDOPHILIA

Lol

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 07:19 PM
Lol

I dont see the "lol" in it. You know what im talking about dont you?

What this world needs is a few thousands of firing squads and concentration camps...

Flash
03-15-2011, 07:29 PM
No, i can read. He blatantly wrote "So?" regarding all the promotion of pedophilia/pederastry going on in Wikipedia...


Depends on what you mean by pedophile. Why shouldn't it be okay for someone who is 14 to have sexual relations with a legal adult? I remember being quite mature around that age, and being fully able to make my own decisions. Hell, I'm pretty sure in Christ's times, 13 was considered an adult. Really, I don't see a problem with that. Now I don't want to strawman your argument, so I'm assuming Jimmy Wales & his associates aren't supporting pedophilia, as in, having sex with someone that is seven. I'm pretty sure they're not defending THAT.

LibertyIsGold
03-15-2011, 09:35 PM
Jimbo Wales for Senate might be one of the best causes this time around.

trey4sports
03-15-2011, 09:55 PM
Jimmy Wales supports what?

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 10:08 PM
Jimmy Wales supports what?

That whole godamn CIA/NWO operation is (at the higher levels) run by pedos/***** (same thing 90% of the time), commies, pedo satanist-occultist freaks/army intelligence (same thing most of the time), etc, etc...

And "aspiringconstitutionalist" over there knows very well about the pederastic/pedo tendencies.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/27/wikipedia-child-porn-larry-sanger-fbi/

There is plenty more just search.

Stay the hell away from scumbag Jimbo...


Depends on what you mean by pedophile. Why shouldn't it be okay for someone who is 14 to have sexual relations with a legal adult? I remember being quite mature around that age, and being fully able to make my own decisions. Hell, I'm pretty sure in Christ's times, 13 was considered an adult. Really, I don't see a problem with that. Now I don't want to strawman your argument, so I'm assuming Jimmy Wales & his associates aren't supporting pedophilia, as in, having sex with someone that is seven. I'm pretty sure they're not defending THAT.

Im not even going to respond to that.

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-15-2011, 10:26 PM
That whole godamn CIA/NWO operation is (at the higher levels) run by pedos/***** (same thing 90% of the time), commies, pedo satanist-occultist freaks/army intelligence (same thing most of the time), etc, etc...

And "aspiringconstitutionalist" over there knows very well about the pederastic/pedo tendencies.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/27/wikipedia-child-porn-larry-sanger-fbi/

There is plenty more just search.

Stay the hell away from scumbag Jimbo...



Im not even going to respond to that.

Wait a minute, this 00_pete guy is all satire, isn't he...

I feel dumb now...

Lol!!

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 11:10 PM
Wait a minute, this 00_pete guy is all satire, isn't he...

I feel dumb now...

Lol!!

:mad: WikiPEDO :mad:

McBell
03-15-2011, 11:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8SBWY.jpg

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 11:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8SBWY.jpg

I just gave evidence that they have people that are OPENLY pederasts on their team and that a guy that left Wikimedia accused them of being a bunch of pedos...

If you want to associate yourselfs with radioactive material go right ahead.

thekohser
03-16-2011, 11:38 AM
I hope that Ron Paul supporters will manage fairly quickly to come to the conclusion that Jimmy Wales isn't a trustworthy individual (http://www.mywikibiz.com/Criticism_of_Jimmy_Wales), and move on to another potential popular candidate. Then again, it would be amusing to watch all of the dirt come out of the woodwork, when the media got its hands on Jimbo's résumé and started talking to former friends and spouses of his. In that light -- THREE CHEERS FOR SENATOR JIMBO!

(Disclosure: I am a past financial supporter of Ron Paul, though the dollar amount was rather inconsequential.)

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-16-2011, 01:19 PM
I hope that Ron Paul supporters will manage fairly quickly to come to the conclusion that Jimmy Wales isn't a trustworthy individual (http://www.mywikibiz.com/Criticism_of_Jimmy_Wales), and move on to another potential popular candidate. Then again, it would be amusing to watch all of the dirt come out of the woodwork, when the media got its hands on Jimbo's résumé and started talking to former friends and spouses of his. In that light -- THREE CHEERS FOR SENATOR JIMBO!

(Disclosure: I am a past financial supporter of Ron Paul, though the dollar amount was rather inconsequential.)

You joined the forum just to say that?

And that's all you've got?

If that's all there is, then Florida's Senate seat is Jimmy Wales's for the taking.

eduardo89
03-16-2011, 01:44 PM
This thread really has left me confused. So Jimmy Wales is a pedophile and wikipedia's agenda is to spread pedophilia and homosexuality (which according to Pete are the same)??

thekohser
03-16-2011, 04:00 PM
And that's all you've got?

Well, I thought it might be a bit uncouth in my first post to ask the forum how it predicted the Florida media will handle the question of Jimbo having his second child with another woman in the UK, before his divorce from his second wife is even final. Then again, there's the matter of Jimbo's company owning several WikiLeaks domains (http://www.examiner.com/wiki-edits-in-national/jimmy-wales-condradicts-the-rest-of-the-internet) for a number of years. You do know that there's a good portion of patriotic Americans (mostly Republicans) who view WikiLeaks and its alleged-rapist spokesman as anti-American, right? It won't be so easy for Jimbo to shake off that legal relationship with that brand name, if he's running for public office.

But, hey... we know that Jimbo won't ever run for office. That would suggest a desire to actually do work, to be responsible, and to be accountable for his actions. That's not Jimbo's style. This is more Jimbo's style:

http://www.mywikibiz.com/images/8/87/Jimbo_in_Vogue.jpg

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-16-2011, 04:21 PM
Well, I thought it might be a bit uncouth in my first post to ask the forum how it predicted the Florida media will handle the question of Jimbo having his second child with another woman in the UK, before his divorce from his second wife is even final. Then again, there's the matter of Jimbo's company owning several WikiLeaks domains (http://www.examiner.com/wiki-edits-in-national/jimmy-wales-condradicts-the-rest-of-the-internet) for a number of years. You do know that there's a good portion of patriotic Americans (mostly Republicans) who view WikiLeaks and its alleged-rapist spokesman as anti-American, right? It won't be so easy for Jimbo to shake off that legal relationship with that brand name, if he's running for public office.

But, hey... we know that Jimbo won't ever run for office. That would suggest a desire to actually do work, to be responsible, and to be accountable for his actions. That's not Jimbo's style. This is more Jimbo's style:

http://www.mywikibiz.com/images/8/87/Jimbo_in_Vogue.jpg

Oh dang. Those outfits are gonna KILL him in the polls.

Better find some other candidate then, I guess!

...yyyyeah.

thekohser
03-16-2011, 04:27 PM
Oh dang. Those outfits are gonna KILL him in the polls.

Better find some other candidate then, I guess!

...yyyyeah.

Earnestly, I hope you stick with Der Jimbo and somehow convince him that running would be in his best interest. I would enjoy how that turns out, the media spectacle and all; truly I would.

Flash
03-16-2011, 10:41 PM
But, hey... we know that Jimbo won't ever run for office. That would suggest a desire to actually do work, to be responsible, and to be accountable for his actions.

Too bad elected officials aren't actually held accountable.

aspiringconstitutionalist
03-17-2011, 12:17 PM
Earnestly, I hope you stick with Der Jimbo and somehow convince him that running would be in his best interest. I would enjoy how that turns out, the media spectacle and all; truly I would.

Did you really register at Ron Paul forums to do nothing other than bash Jimmy Wales? Lol. That's like the very definition of trolling.

shanajk
03-27-2011, 10:36 AM
We're friends and I also monitor his online presence for him. I think Jimmy's biggest concern is the enormous amount of time it would take. I really can't even begin to describe how insanely busy he is and the amount of responsibility he shoulders. However, he is truly concerned about the state of the country and the erosion of our freedoms. Showing him that he would have a grassroots army of supporters behind him would probably be the most persuasive tactic in convincing him. We're in the process of redoing his personal website for him, but he's looking for ideas from his friends and fans. If you want to help, and also let him know you're interested in seeing him run for Senate, tell him here (http://jimmywales.wufoo.com/forms/help-me-update-my-site/).

trey4sports
03-27-2011, 12:58 PM
We're friends and I also monitor his online presence for him. I think Jimmy's biggest concern is the enormous amount of time it would take. I really can't even begin to describe how insanely busy he is and the amount of responsibility he shoulders. However, he is truly concerned about the state of the country and the erosion of our freedoms. Showing him that he would have a grassroots army of supporters behind him would probably be the most persuasive tactic in convincing him. We're in the process of redoing his personal website for him, but he's looking for ideas from his friends and fans. If you want to help, and also let him know you're interested in seeing him run for Senate, tell him here (http://jimmywales.wufoo.com/forms/help-me-update-my-site/).


Just did it! Please everyone help out. We need Jimmy in the Senate!

trey4sports
11-22-2011, 08:27 AM
bump.

Elwar
11-22-2011, 09:30 AM
I live in Florida and just going by the troll attacks in this thread I would support the guy. He obviously rubs the wrong people the wrong way...

There are no other choices for Senate in Florida at the moment.

I would probably just vote for the Libertarian candidate again for Senate if any of the current crop are on the ballot.

Xenophage
11-22-2011, 12:27 PM
From what I know of Jimmy Wales I could be completely supportive of him. He might be my favorite candidate ever.

However, I need to hear him speak on some issues, or at a debate, or read a political essay he wrote. Just because someone says they're an objectivist doesn't mean they really are. Also, we could have some big disagreements on foreign policy, for instance (Leonard Peikoff comes to mind - not a huge fan of that guy!)

But if this guy is like the Penn Jillete kind of objectivist/libertarian (like me!) that'd be AWESOME!

No Free Beer
11-22-2011, 12:28 PM
i lived in Florida. Yes, take that old bastard out

Xenophage
11-22-2011, 12:33 PM
We're friends and I also monitor his online presence for him. I think Jimmy's biggest concern is the enormous amount of time it would take. I really can't even begin to describe how insanely busy he is and the amount of responsibility he shoulders. However, he is truly concerned about the state of the country and the erosion of our freedoms. Showing him that he would have a grassroots army of supporters behind him would probably be the most persuasive tactic in convincing him. We're in the process of redoing his personal website for him, but he's looking for ideas from his friends and fans. If you want to help, and also let him know you're interested in seeing him run for Senate, tell him here (http://jimmywales.wufoo.com/forms/help-me-update-my-site/).

Please let him know he needs to advertise his political beliefs and take a stance on specific policies. A speech, an essay, something.

I'd like to know where he stands on the wars, on the Fed, on regulations, spending, etc. It would also be interesting to know if he's willing to endorse Ron.

Xenophage
11-22-2011, 12:41 PM
Im not the one promoting PEDOPHILIA

Are you sure? You're the one writing it in giant capital letters, kind of like hanging a big ol' billboard out there. Just need to make sure it flashes and lights up!

Why are you so interested in children having sex, Pete?

PastaRocket848
11-22-2011, 01:00 PM
YES! i'd vote for him! bill nelson is a dick.

LibertyEsq
11-22-2011, 01:02 PM
Isn't Connie Mack probably going to win the primary and run against Nelson? I would probably rather have Jimmy Wales but...aren't we sort of limited as to what we can focus on

PastaRocket848
11-22-2011, 01:03 PM
Well, I thought it might be a bit uncouth in my first post to ask the forum how it predicted the Florida media will handle the question of Jimbo having his second child with another woman in the UK, before his divorce from his second wife is even final. Then again, there's the matter of Jimbo's company owning several WikiLeaks domains (http://www.examiner.com/wiki-edits-in-national/jimmy-wales-condradicts-the-rest-of-the-internet) for a number of years. You do know that there's a good portion of patriotic Americans (mostly Republicans) who view WikiLeaks and its alleged-rapist spokesman as anti-American, right? It won't be so easy for Jimbo to shake off that legal relationship with that brand name, if he's running for public office.

But, hey... we know that Jimbo won't ever run for office. That would suggest a desire to actually do work, to be responsible, and to be accountable for his actions. That's not Jimbo's style. This is more Jimbo's style:

http://www.mywikibiz.com/images/8/87/Jimbo_in_Vogue.jpg

ok so you signed up here just to oppose the idea of anyone supporting this guy. what's your motive? did he fire you a few years ago or something?

EDIT: i would vote for him for two reasons: (1) you're an asshole, and (2) he looks a lot like mike ness.

bluesc
11-24-2011, 01:25 PM
We're friends and I also monitor his online presence for him. I think Jimmy's biggest concern is the enormous amount of time it would take. I really can't even begin to describe how insanely busy he is and the amount of responsibility he shoulders. However, he is truly concerned about the state of the country and the erosion of our freedoms. Showing him that he would have a grassroots army of supporters behind him would probably be the most persuasive tactic in convincing him. We're in the process of redoing his personal website for him, but he's looking for ideas from his friends and fans. If you want to help, and also let him know you're interested in seeing him run for Senate, tell him here (http://jimmywales.wufoo.com/forms/help-me-update-my-site/).

I want this guy back on the forums. He knows Jimmy, and seems to know Joe Scarborough (says he voted for Ron). Could do with some open support for Ron from influential people.