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ItsTime
03-08-2011, 03:41 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/08/AR2011030803148.html?hpid=topnews


"...I mean basically they are, they believe in sort of white, middle-America gun-toting. I mean, it's scary. They're seriously racist, racist people."

Lucille
03-08-2011, 03:44 PM
He goes on to say that NPR "would be better off in the long run without federal funding."

So stop picking racist pockets then.

Dr.3D
03-08-2011, 03:46 PM
NPR is a liberal mouthpiece anyway, sort of like MSNBC.

lester1/2jr
03-08-2011, 03:48 PM
I kind of have a soft spot for them. I like the mcglaughlin group and this american life

Indy Vidual
03-08-2011, 03:55 PM
Tea Parties Racist?
No

Some members?
Yes

I wasn't sure Rand Paul was wise to closely bond w/ the Tea Party after "we" had lost control of the brand. Rand gives the Kentucky Tea Parties a huge amount of credit for his election, so the "marriage" is permanent. :eek:

FrankRep
03-08-2011, 03:56 PM
http://www.kochsoft.com/tna/logo.png (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
The New American Magazine on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-New-American-Magazine/146909368666979)


Tea Party Could Put Record Number of Black Conservatives in Office (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/5030-tea-party-could-put-record-number-of-black-conservatives-in-office)
The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
29 October 2010

Despite allegations of racism in Tea Party organizations, the Republican Party, and conservative groups, 2010 has witnessed more black Republican activism than ever before. by Raven Clabough


NAACP Releases Report on Tea Party Racism (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/4957-naacp-releases-report-on-tea-party-racism)
The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
21 October 2010

Earlier this week, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights announced their intent to release a report entitled, “Tea Party Nationalism: A Critical Examination of the Tea Party Movement and the Size, Scope, and Focus of its National Factions.” by Raven Clabough


Leftist Website Targets Tea Parties (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/4530-leftist-website-targets-tea-parties)
The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
08 September 2010

Liberals and Leftists have created a website called teapartytracker.org, which supposedly “monitors racism and other forms of extremism within the Tea Party movement.” by Raven Clabough


Black Tea Partiers Defend Tea Party Express (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/4258-black-tea-partiers-defend-tea-party-express)
The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
10 August 2010

In an effort to refute allegations of Tea Party racism, particularly within the Tea Party Express, black conservative Tea Partiers held a press conference last week. By Raven Clabough



Black Conservative Leaders Defend Tea Party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GizNwzKo3n8


Alicia Healy, Candidate at Columbus Tea Party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6OCg1UuakA

Thomas
03-08-2011, 04:13 PM
defund npr

Rothbardian Girl
03-08-2011, 04:15 PM
Tea Parties Racist?
No

Some members?
Yes

I wasn't sure Rand Paul was wise to closely bond w/ the Tea Party after "we" had lost control of the brand. Rand gives the Kentucky Tea Parties a huge amount of credit for his election, so the "marriage" is permanent. :eek:

Agreed.

Indy Vidual
03-08-2011, 04:23 PM
Agreed.

The "marriage" is permanent, and divorce is not an option. :)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51i9ZfHLwhL._SS500_.jpg

AGRP
03-08-2011, 04:23 PM
The race card is getting just as bad as Pee Wee's "I know you are but what am I?"

Childish and annoying.

JohnEngland
03-08-2011, 04:27 PM
The "marriage" is permanent, and divorce is not an option. :)

I'd say the Tea Party is a great brand and it's good to see Rand assuming a figurehead position. When people think "Tea Party", we should want them to immediately think "Rand Paul".

Anti Federalist
03-08-2011, 04:31 PM
The race card is getting just as bad as Pee Wee's "I know you are but what am I?"

Childish and annoying.

Yeah, but it works on their (NPR's) demographic.

They love trotting that nonsense out to give the hanky wringers the vapors.

outspoken
03-08-2011, 04:34 PM
All groups which view and advocate for specific groups based on ethnicity are inherently racist. That is fine and dandy as long as you don't use the power of government to serve self interest. It is human nature to 'pre-judge' and it is the enlightened ones who understand human nature who are able to transend the inbred inherent ways of our unconscious minds. Blacks falling prey to the victimization card as well as 'white trash' blaming minorities for all the world's ills are both racist in their own way. It is a bit rediculous to summerize an entire group of people advocating for liberty as racist. Just one of the petty, little games the left play to justify their own racist slants professing to be the party of the 'oppressed.' At some point, we will wake up in this country and realize that we are not many races fighting for power but rather one big amalgam of races intertwined. Too much of the kettle calling the pot black in this country. We have to ALL look within ourselves and recognize that which seeks to prejudge, hate, fear, and oppress our fellow man.

Indy Vidual
03-08-2011, 04:38 PM
I'd say the Tea Party is a great brand and it's good to see Rand assuming a figurehead position. When people think "Tea Party", we should want them to immediately think "Rand Paul".

Hi John,
I'd say the Tea Party is a confused brand:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/5.3.10SarahPalinByDavidShankbone.jpg/471px-5.3.10SarahPalinByDavidShankbone.jpg

Very confused:
(This starts out w/ ~45 seconds of music, but gets substantial after that)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru996Q_7ejw

devil21
03-08-2011, 05:42 PM
That whole interview reason seemed to be to reinforce two thoughts:

1. Call Tea Party folks ignorant racists
2. Jews do not control the media

specsaregood
03-08-2011, 05:47 PM
Yeah, but it works on their (NPR's) demographic.

They love trotting that nonsense out to give the hanky wringers the vapors.

Don't be so collectivist. I know a few NPR listeners/donors that don't buy that horsepucky.

Anti Federalist
03-08-2011, 06:27 PM
Don't be so collectivist. I know a few NPR listeners/donors that don't buy that horsepucky.

Bah, a demographic is just that, a profile of typical people within that segment of society, or in this case, a listening audience.

specsaregood
03-08-2011, 09:30 PM
Bah, a demographic is just that, a profile of typical people within that segment of society, or in this case, a listening audience.

I hear ya, I just dont think that is an accurate description of their demographic. and I only threw in the c-word to provoke you. :)

dbill27
03-08-2011, 10:12 PM
That whole interview reason seemed to be to reinforce two thoughts:

1. Call Tea Party folks ignorant racists
2. Jews do not control the media

He says flat out that NPR is not controlled by the jews and zionists but that newspapers are!! If this was a conservative guy in a smiliar situation this story would be way bigger already.

AZKing
03-08-2011, 11:05 PM
How much do we subsidize this guy?

I think the Tea Party is bad to be associated with (it's kind of like yelling, "Hey! I like George Bush and hate Obama even though they're practically the same"), but I definitely wouldn't say it's racist. Maybe a large number of extremists, I dunno.

guitarlifter
03-08-2011, 11:27 PM
It's like saying that anti-welfare people hate the poor or helping the poor; anti-public schools people hate education; or pro-legalization of drugs people are drug addicts or don't care about others' well being. It's silly how this guy tries to demonize the other side because of his pitifully lackluster justifications for his inconsistent political ideology.

I don't want to rid the government of all tax-funded programs (thus eliminating tax and privatizing everything) and rid the government's law books of all victimless crime laws simply because we hate the goals of these programs and laws. I just don't agree with fighting evil with evil. I don't believe in Godly ends justifying unGodly means. I believe in God's means justifying any ends, no matter what ends that may be. The existence of the poor is a tragic thing, but what is even more tragic is breaking God's law by taxing and oppressing people.

God's means > ANY ends.

osan
03-09-2011, 07:57 AM
The race card is getting just as bad as Pee Wee's "I know you are but what am I?"

Childish and annoying.

Agreed. I find it ever decreasing in its power, so I say keep using it all you assholes out there. Use it until nobody but the schmucks continue to respond to it - the same people who keep employing it as a lever.

Someone calls me a racist, I say "Yeah? So what?". It takes the wind right out of their sails. Try it. As I always have a gun on my hip and 40 years of jujutsu training in my pocket, I don't much fret about the possibility of someone attempting to escalate in response to such as retort as I give - and that has yet to happen. Those who toss the card like that have thus far proven themselves nothing but blowhards. Bullies who, being innate cowards, are counting on you to get that deer-in-the-headlights look and start stammering for words and casting about for ways to prove you are not a racist. NEVER give them that. Always ram it right back at them with a big fat "So what?" Shuts them down dead in their tracks because they don't know how to deal with it. Aside from devolving into threats and epithets, what can they do - take a swing at you? Not that likely at all.

Be smarter than the blowhards. Always. See my .sig, below. :)

HOLLYWOOD
03-09-2011, 08:33 AM
http://media.npr.org/chrome/news/nprlogo_138x46.gif

Just to make it clear, Latest update: The Board of Directors has FIRED Vivian Schiller

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/03/09/134388981/npr-ceo-vivian-schiller-resigns

NPR CEO Vivian Schiller Resigns (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/03/09/134388981/npr-ceo-vivian-schiller-resigns)


by Mark Memmott (http://www.npr.org/people/104192887/mark-memmott)

NPR President and CEO Vivian Schiller (http://www.npr.org/people/99152497/vivian-schiller) has resigned, NPR just announced.
This follows yesterday's news (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/03/09/134387775/update-latest-on-aftermath-of-npr-execs-comments) that then-NPR fundraiser Ron Schiller (no relation) was videotapped slamming conservatives and questioning whether NPR needs federal funding during a lunch with men posing as members of a Muslim organization (they were working with political activist James O'Keefe on a "sting.")
Vivian Schiller quickly condemned Ron Schiller's comments, and he moved up an already-announced decision to leave NPR and resigned effectively immediately. But Ron Schiller's gaffe followed last fall's firing of NPR political analyst Juan Williams, for which Vivian Schiller came under harsh criticism.
NPR just released this statement from NPR Board of Directors Chairman Dave Edwards:
"It is with deep regret that I tell you that the NPR Board of Directors has accepted the resignation of Vivian Schiller as President and CEO of NPR, effective immediately.
"The Board accepted her resignation with understanding, genuine regret, and great respect for her leadership of NPR these past two years.
"Vivian brought vision and energy to this organization. She led NPR back from the enormous economic challenges of the previous two years. She was passionately committed to NPR's mission, and to stations and NPR working collaboratively as a local-national news network.
"According to a CEO succession plan adopted by the Board in 2009, Joyce Slocum, SVP of Legal Affairs and General Counsel, has been appointed to the position of Interim CEO. The Board will immediately establish an Executive Transition Committee that will develop a timeframe and process for the recruitment and selection of new leadership.
"I recognize the magnitude of this news – and that it comes on top of what has been a traumatic period for NPR and the larger public radio community. The Board is committed to supporting NPR through this interim period and has confidence in NPR's leadership team."
We'll have much more on this as the story develops.
Update at 9:30 a.m. ET: "I'm told by sources that she was forced out," NPR's David Folkenflik just said on Morning Edition.

osan
03-09-2011, 08:44 AM
I'd say the Tea Party is a great brand and it's good to see Rand assuming a figurehead position. When people think "Tea Party", we should want them to immediately think "Rand Paul".

I say the only power the Tea Party will ever successfully hold in the long run is to not be a brand at all. It should remain cellular in character. There should exist a Liberty Manifesto... something perhaps I should write... that acts not as anything as tight-binding as a bible, but that presents a sufficient foundation for thought and action. Each cell may differ in greater or lesser measure on details from its fellows, but this is as humans are and should not serve as an obstacle so long as we are agreed on a very small set of basic propositions - and by "small" I am speaking of perhaps half a dozen - with good explanations of what they are, what they mean, and how they apply in one's daily life. So long as the base message of liberty is carried forward, we can work out details.

Let each cell be small-circle oriented. Let them form larger but non-binding (and perhaps most importantly DYNAMIC) associations at community, county, and state levels, but let it go no farther than that as centralization starts taking hold and the same old problems arise. These are very difficult habits to break but I contend that break them we must if we are not to fall into the same old trap of demopublicans and republicrats. I would even avoid naming the organizations and for heaven's sake do not make them anything official and do not use "tea party" in the name if you insist on naming yourselves, which I discourage. Focus on principles and action and resist the habit of adopting formalisms like names and rigid frameworks of dogma, save the core basic principles such as self-ownership, freedom of action, private property, and non-aggression. Hammer those home constantly and endeavor to educate your peers on what they are and how they apply to specific situations so that their thinking will align itself in time with the most basic nature of the human animal: freedom and responsibility for one's actions.

The only exception to the guideline about formalism might lie in the formation of organizations that enable certain functioning within the context and framework of the electoral processes that are in place. PACs and the sort... things necessary to get candidates on a ballot. But I would also strongly recommend that all such formal organizations be brought to life and then immediately to their ends the moment the election cycle in question completes. No abiding formal organizations. When one cycle ends, dispose of the formal entity and when another cycle begins, form a new one. Different name, preferably at least some different people... all from scratch. This has the subtle psychological effect of breaking any mental sense of continuity along those lines and is IMO a very good idea as everything starts anew. No embedded structures, no sense of continuity. It forces people to reinvent these particular wheels over and over again and that keeps people on their toes and involved and learning always.

Why are the Dems and Reps the bloated masses of hopelessly traitorous corruption that they are? They are ossified institutions that are by virtue of that ossification big, fat, and perfectly stationary targets for infiltration by hostile parties. This is a habit we MUST break or we may as well get real and stop trying. Remember insanity? Doing the same things over and over, expecting different results. It's well overdue that we started heeding this wise little indicator for change. By constantly destroying and rebuilding anew, we pose small and adeptly evasive targets, the infiltration of which is not only far more difficult to attain, but yields a very small payday because it will go bye bye in short order, thereby necessitating fresh efforts from scratch for the next round. There is enormous power and safety in this. Parties go bad because they exist as formal structures over generations and are therefore ripe targets for takeovers. Don't feed the monsters. Starve them out - it can be done almost instantly.

Also, with technologies such as the internet, there is no reason we cannot establish huge communities of like-minded people nationwide - sharing ideas, educating each other, challenging each others' beliefs, exercising our systems of thought and improving them as opportunity allows. A liberty forum website where groups can come together to help each other get started, to plan, to think, to act. Small groups.... large groups.... doesn't matter so long as they remain informal and dynamic with no abiding structure onto which hostile parties are able to attach themselves and cause harm.

Finally, addressing the notion of small groups, the FAMILY is a key element in all of this. Familial involvement of parents, children, brothers and sisters... aunts, uncles, moms and dads... This is the basic cell of education, planning, and operation. By including the children you involve them in the single most important educational experience in which they will ever take part so that they will be equipped and motivated to carry on the good fight against the would-be masters. At the community level you include friends and neighbors.... meeting in your homes, schools, DAV halls, or wherever best suits the mood and needs of a given group. Periodic pow-wows between groups of larger proportions (county-scale?)... maybe quarterly to discuss issues of importance to the larger communities and maybe an annual shebang at state level to bring everyone together and to keep the messages alive and clear for one and all. This all can be done and it can be effective. The only question remaining is whether people will actually care enough to take action.

Anyone interested in helping write such a manifesto?

osan
03-09-2011, 09:02 AM
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"According to a CEO succession plan adopted by the Board in 2009, Joyce Slocum, SVP of Legal Affairs and General Counsel, has been appointed to the position of Interim CEO.

Figures they'd put a damned lawyer in position.

What a world.

AuH20
03-09-2011, 09:10 AM
How much do we subsidize this guy?

I think the Tea Party is bad to be associated with (it's kind of like yelling, "Hey! I like George Bush and hate Obama even though they're practically the same"), but I definitely wouldn't say it's racist. Maybe a large number of extremists, I dunno.

Half of the tea party loathes Bush.

JohnEngland
03-09-2011, 09:14 AM
Hi John,
I'd say the Tea Party is a confused brand:

Exactly! The Tea Party is so decentralised and grassroots that leadership roles are totally up for grabs. I'd rather like it that the liberty movement (the true modern Tea Party founders) engaged in that challenge and assumed the influential positions - as Rand Paul now is doing.

FrankRep
03-09-2011, 09:16 AM
http://thenewamerican.com/images/stories2011/10aMarch/jamesokeefe-t-ap.001.jpg
James O'Keefe III



James O'Keefe, the young conservative journalist who brought down ACORN, has bamboozled two top executives of National Public Radio into having lunch with members of a fictive Muslim educational organization supposedly founded by a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.


NPR Exec: Tea Party Is "Seriously Racist" (http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-latest/6619-npr-exec-tea-party-is-racist)


R. Cort Kirkwood | The New American (http://thenewamerican.com/)
09 March 2011


James O'Keefe (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/okeefe), the young conservative journalist who brought down ACORN in a series a secretly recorded videos, has done it again. This time, he bamboozled two top executives of National Public Radio (http://www.npr.org/) into having lunch with members of a fictive Muslim educational organization supposedly founded by a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Two of O'Keefe's operatives, posing as possible Muslim contributors to NPR, met for lunch (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/node/36) with Ron Schiller (http://www.npr.org/people/114335073/ron-schiller), the network's foundation president and senior vice president for development, and Besty Liley (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=betsy+liley&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=betsy+liley&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.&fp=74b51816635ef892), NPR's director for institutional giving. Both executives expressed disdain for conservatives and even the United States.

Schiller even told the two, the Daily Caller notes in its report on the recording, that NPR would be better off without federal funding, which directly contradicts what NPR CEO Vivian Schiller (http://www.npr.org/people/99152497/vivian-schiller) said the day before in a press conference at The National Press Club.

O'Keefe's latest effort, Project Veritas (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/), mounted the undercover operation.

Tea Party Members Are Racist

O'Keefe's operatives represent themselves (http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/08/npr-executives-caught-on-tape-bashing-conservatives-and-tea-party-touting-liberals/print/) as Ibrahim Kasaam and Amir Malik from a fictitious outfit calling itself the Muslim Education Action Center (http://www.meactrust.org/), which explicity states is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6386), an organization whose goal is the establishment of global Islamic hegemony. MEAC has a website that proclaims its intent to spread Sharia (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=sharia+law&aq=f&aqi=g4g-o1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.&fp=74b51816635ef892) or Islamic law across the world:



Islam requires that every Muslim observe and live under Divine Law, yet many cultures are not receptive to this life. Many Muslims are prohibited from governing themselves under the principles of their own faith. We must combat intolerance to spread acceptance of Sharia across the world.


But none of this disturbs the voluble anti-conservative NPR man, Schiller. "The current Republican Party, particularly the Tea Party, is fanatically involved in people’s personal lives and very fundamental Christian — I wouldn’t even call it Christian. It’s this weird evangelical kind of move," he tells the two.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd9OYJMX9t4


As Schiller explains (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/node/36) that the Tea Party "hijacked" the GOP, Malik agrees, calling the Tea Party "radical racist, [and] Islamophobic."



[The Tea Party is not] just Islamaphobic, but really xenophobic, I mean basically they are, they believe in sort of white, middle-America gun-toting. I mean, it’s scary. They’re seriously racist, racist people."


At one point, Kassam says (http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/08/npr-executives-caught-on-tape-bashing-conservatives-and-tea-party-touting-liberals/print/) that NPR so favorably presents the Palestinian point of view in its reporting that Muslims call it “National Palestinian Radio.” The remark elicits a laugh from Schiller, and the following comment from Liley (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/node/36): “Oh really? That’s good. I like that.”

The two faux Muslims said they could donate up to $5 million to NPR.

Concentration Camps And Williams

Liley goes even further when Malik complains (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/node/36) that the Muslim Brotherhood is "demonized and looked down on as horrible, terrible people, when they are simply just trying to help."

In fact, the Brotherhood's stated goal (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6386) is "is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization ... so that ... God's religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions."

Says Liley (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/node/36), “Sadly, our history from the record … shows that we have done this before. We put Japanese-Americans in camps in World War II.”

What Liley means by "this" is unclear, but Schiller eventually defends (http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/08/npr-executives-caught-on-tape-bashing-conservatives-and-tea-party-touting-liberals/print/) firing Juan Williams (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130712737), whom NPR cashiered after his imprudent confession (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm4hZaEqawk) that seeing Muslims on planes make him nervous. Schiller says NPR execs discussed the Williams matter and that all of them agreed Williams could not continue as a host because he would not be credible to viewers. Schiller says that any journalist who expresses an opinion is “compromised as a journalist, they can no longer fairly report.”

[A]nd the question that we asked internally was can Juan Williams, when he makes a statement like he made, can he report to the Muslims population, for example, and be believed and the answer is no. He lost all credibility.

As the Daily Caller notes (http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/08/npr-executives-caught-on-tape-bashing-conservatives-and-tea-party-touting-liberals/print/), Schiller once again directly contradicted NPR’s public statements. At her Monday press conference, Vivian Schiller apologized for the way it handled the Williams matter. "We handled the situation badly," she said (http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/08/npr-executives-caught-on-tape-bashing-conservatives-and-tea-party-touting-liberals/print/). "We acted too hastily and we made some mistakes. I made some mistakes."

As well, Vivian Schiller denied (http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2011/03/07/nprs-schiller-denies-liberal-bias-stations-content-policies-board-sa) NPR has a liberal bias. O’Keefe did.

ACORN, NPR, Teacher Unions

O'Keefe (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/okeefe) is familiar to reader of The New American for posing (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/1857-acorn-vote-fraud-and-prostitution) as a pimp and persuading staff members of the notorious left-wing ACORN to help him set up brothels where underage prostitutes could work. The video attack prompted calls (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/1895-acorn-funding-in-peril) to defund (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/1912-acorn-likely-doomed) ACORN, and set the group scrambling to recover (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/2311-acorn-sues-federal-government) its reputation even among the hard-bitten leftists that support it.

With Project Veritas (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/), O'Keefe has moved on to NPR. He has also filmed members (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/node/29) of teacher unions in New Jersey attending a taxpayer subsidized conference. The teachers boastfully claim they cannot be fired for even for serious infractions, such as calling black children "n****r." Of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a teacher says (http://www.theprojectveritas.org/node/29) that “everybody want to, you know, take this guy out one way or the other.”

Another laughs that she is playing video games on the taxpayers' dime.


SOURCE:
http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-latest/6619-npr-exec-tea-party-is-racist

HOLLYWOOD
03-09-2011, 09:52 AM
The power of video cameras and recording devices... catches the truth, This is why government doesn't want it's citizens videotaping their actions.

The judge is so correct... the video camera has become the newest part 1st amendment

osan
03-09-2011, 10:11 AM
...Juan Williams, whom NPR cashiered after his imprudent confession that seeing Muslims on planes make him nervous. Schiller says NPR execs discussed the Williams matter and that all of them agreed Williams could not continue as a host because he would not be credible to viewers. Schiller says that any journalist who expresses an opinion is “compromised as a journalist, they can no longer fairly report.

Buh...WHA?!

What

The

HELL?!

Are they kidding? This, coming from "journalists" who don't have the honesty and discipline not to inject rank and unqualified opinion into nearly every sentence they spew forth? The cognitive dissonance this elicits is too much even for me. This goes beyond surreal.

osan
03-09-2011, 10:13 AM
The power of video cameras and recording devices... catches the truth, This is why government doesn't want it's citizens videotaping their actions.

The judge is so correct... the video camera has become the newest part 1st amendment

Absolutely right. I suspect we may be seeing increased attempts to curtail the use of such devices.

ExPatPaki
03-09-2011, 10:50 AM
Juan Williams is a pussy, but you shouldn't be fired for being a pussy.

ronpaulhawaii
03-09-2011, 11:07 AM
The fallout continues

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/03/09/ron-schiller-won-t-join-aspen-institute-after-all.aspx


Ron Schiller Won't Join Aspen Institute After All
Posted Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:20 AM | By David Weigel

The Aspen Institute, where departed NPR executive Ron Schiller was supposed to start next month, releases a statement:
Ron Schiller has informed us that, in light of the controversy surrounding his recent statements, he does not feel that it’s in the best interests of the Aspen Institute for him to come work here.

A complete career tailspin. The Aspen Institute has already taken down the press release announcing Schiller's hiring. No wonder -- he was going to become director of the Harman-Eisner Artist-in-Residence Program, "Harman" being Sidney Harman, the new Newsweek owner, Aspen trustee, and husband of the retiring Rep. Jane Harman...

HOLLYWOOD
03-09-2011, 11:52 AM
The ending video shot is classic: the npr building/logo and those ridiculous Funded By... ARRA American Recovery Reinvestment Act signs.

Think about it... these are people collaborating that don't even know each other... imagine the relationship of Congress/Lobbyists/Corporations. It's time to cut off all the money to eliminate the Fraud, Racketeering, Conspiring, Briberies, Kickbacks, etc.

Schiller is on the downfall because he got caught like Nixon... imagine if there were video recordings of every politicians and their meetings with Lobbyists, Corporations, Banks, and Campaign Donors? They would all be gone.

Vessol
03-09-2011, 02:46 PM
He goes on to say that NPR "would be better off in the long run without federal funding."

They should put there money where their mouth is and stop receiving any government money immediately.

acptulsa
03-09-2011, 02:55 PM
Buh...WHA?!

What

The

HELL?!

Are they kidding? This, coming from "journalists" who don't have the honesty and discipline not to inject rank and unqualified opinion into nearly every sentence they spew forth? The cognitive dissonance this elicits is too much even for me. This goes beyond surreal.

Yes. And quoting someone of supposed authority first noting the predominant race and gender makeup of the 'tea party' crowds, he has the temerity to accuse them of racism--as though racism isn't possible from others, and as if his assumption isn't also racism.

And, yes, we conservatives are all the same. All identical. Never mind how the G.O.P. can be in turmoil and yet all Republicans can simultaneously be united automatons wired together like the Borg. Just don't think about that part...


They should put there money where their mouth is and stop receiving any government money immediately.

If not permenantly, at least until they can get straightened out and stop constantly insulting half of us unwilling contributors. But, of course, then the government might be admitting that we are not each others' enemies, but they are increasingly the enemy. And the more they try to divide this nation against itself for their ends, the more we can point to their enemy action.

Anti Federalist
03-09-2011, 02:57 PM
I hear ya, I just dont think that is an accurate description of their demographic. and I only threw in the c-word to provoke you. :)

LOL

http://norunnyeggs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Mission-Accomplished.jpg

madfoot
03-09-2011, 03:34 PM
Is the Tea Party racist?

Penn says... BULLSHIT!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCdJMNTcWGs

Vessol
03-09-2011, 04:04 PM
Is the Tea Party racist?

Penn says... BULLSHIT!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCdJMNTcWGs

Thanks for reminding me what a tool and fucking idiot Seth McFarlane is.

Dr.3D
03-09-2011, 04:18 PM
I believe I just heard that NPR exec is no longer holding the position he held when he made that statement. LOL
I guess they threw him under the bus.

angelatc
03-09-2011, 04:23 PM
I believe I just heard that NPR exec is no longer holding the position he held when he made that statement. LOL
I guess they threw him under the bus.

O'Keefe bagged a twofer: the man who made that statement, and the woman who ran the whole shebang.

Dr.3D
03-09-2011, 04:32 PM
O'Keefe bagged a twofer: the man who made that statement, and the woman who ran the whole shebang.

Well, good for him. I hope more shtuff like this happens. :)

Stary Hickory
03-09-2011, 04:41 PM
NPR biased? NOOOoo waaaay? Really?

Kinda laughable, they ought to be defunded like so many other things.

Dr.3D
03-09-2011, 04:57 PM
NPR biased? NOOOoo waaaay? Really?

Kinda laughable, they ought to be defunded like so many other things.

Anything not mentioned in the constitution as pertaining to what they federal government can do, should be defunded.

Vessol
03-09-2011, 05:05 PM
Anything not mentioned in the constitution as pertaining to what they federal government can do, should be defunded.

What about the commerce clause?

Dr.3D
03-09-2011, 05:11 PM
What about the commerce clause?

That clause never should have been added to the constitution in it's current form. Apparently it is vague enough where the federal government has been able to interpret it as giving them the ability to do as they please.

Vessol
03-09-2011, 05:15 PM
That clause never should have been added to the constitution in it's current form. Apparently it is vague enough where the federal government has been able to interpret it as giving them the ability to do as they please.

But that's the thing. The entire Constitution is riddled with these massive gaping vague holes. The "Necessary and proper" clause the "take care" clause. And I don't think it's a mistake. Especially when you look at who drafted the Constitution, the Federalists.

devil21
03-09-2011, 06:29 PM
But that's the thing. The entire Constitution is riddled with these massive gaping vague holes. The "Necessary and proper" clause the "take care" clause. And I don't think it's a mistake. Especially when you look at who drafted the Constitution, the Federalists.

What would be the point of the 10th Amendment then, if the Constitution gives the feds leeway to do whatever they want? The 10th is pretty clear and it would be pointless and contradictory.

Dr.3D
03-09-2011, 06:36 PM
But that's the thing. The entire Constitution is riddled with these massive gaping vague holes. The "Necessary and proper" clause the "take care" clause. And I don't think it's a mistake. Especially when you look at who drafted the Constitution, the Federalists.


What would be the point of the 10th Amendment then, if the Constitution gives the feds leeway to do whatever they want? The 10th is pretty clear and it would be pointless and contradictory.

This is the reason I feel another book, explaining exactly what the Constitution says would be in order. The biggest problem with this is obtaining such a book that is agreed upon and not biased one way or the other. This problem is akin to having a book that explains what the Bible says and then having everyone agree with that explanation.

Vessol
03-09-2011, 06:42 PM
This is the reason I feel another book, explaining exactly what the Constitution says would be in order. The biggest problem with this is obtaining such a book that is agreed upon and not biased one way or the other. This problem is akin to having a book that explains what the Bible says and then having everyone agree with that explanation.

Such a document would be impossible to create for the reasons you outline in your post.

That's why when it comes down to it, government must be a voluntary agreement by all of those governed. New agreements can be drafted over time and between different people, but you cannot push your agreement on others who may not agree or those whom are not yet born.

Dr.3D
03-09-2011, 06:47 PM
Such a document would be impossible to create for the reasons you outline in your post.

That's why when it comes down to it, government must be a voluntary agreement by all of those governed. New agreements can be drafted over time and between different people, but you cannot push your agreement on others who may not agree or those whom are not yet born.

Well, perhaps if congress would stop making up stupid laws for awhile and all sit down and go through each sentence of the Constitution and find agreement as to the content, such a book could be made up. I don't care if it takes them forever to finish that book if it would keep them from making up anymore stupid laws while they were working on it. At least when they were done with the book, they would be able to understand what laws they can and can not make.