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Agorism
03-05-2011, 01:32 PM
At Orange County Hate Rally, GOP Councilwoman Says She Wants Marines To Send Muslim Families To ‘Paradise’

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/03/hate-rally-muslim-charity/

doodle
03-05-2011, 01:46 PM
She comes across as crazy and she himself says she doesn't care if she is called crazy. But if she had family loss while her son was serving in Iraq for freedom of Iraqi arab muslims, perhaps she should be given some room. Likewise, when Cindy Sheehan was expressing some odd views, many people understood her grief as a mother although she was not hateful or phobic in her coping mechanisms as this councilwoman appears to be.

AGRP
03-05-2011, 01:56 PM
I would have been cheering her on ~5 years ago :(

All we can do is keep on keepin on with the educating.

AcousticFoodie
03-05-2011, 02:55 PM
She comes across as crazy and she himself says she doesn't care if she is called crazy. But if she had family loss while her son was serving in Iraq for freedom of Iraqi arab muslims, perhaps she should be given some room.

No she should not, especially since she's in a position of power and those muslim young adults/teens/children are American born. Her telling marines she wants to send those OC muslims to paradise is the same exact thing as the internment of the japanese.

liberty0012241990
03-05-2011, 03:05 PM
Its more like Hitler telling the SS to send the Jews to Concentration Camp imo.

doodle
03-05-2011, 03:13 PM
No she should not, especially since she's in a position of power and those muslim young adults/teens/children are American born. Her telling marines she wants to send those OC muslims to paradise is the same exact thing as the internment of the japanese.

I was trying to give her benefit of trauma or some mental chemical imbalance. But then again, violent hatred like that almost always points to some serious cause, so perhaps such hatred should be condemned without excuse. What I found most offensive was these ignorant folks were mixing up their frustrarated hateful shouts with terms like "Constitution".

The two Republicans who spoke in support of this hatefest, Ed Royce and Gary Miller, are likely politically dead. Once these clips start playing on Al Jazeera, oil money would probably be rolling in for their opponents come next election. Gas is over $4 in some CA areas already.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?282502-Max-Blumenthal-Anti-Muslim-hate-rally-summons-the-ghosts-of-Jim-Crow&p=3148215&viewfull=1#post3148215

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?282502-Max-Blumenthal-Anti-Muslim-hate-rally-summons-the-ghosts-of-Jim-Crow&p=3148228&viewfull=1#post3148228

So many threads on same topic.

squarepusher
03-05-2011, 03:22 PM
At Orange County Hate Rally, GOP Councilwoman Says She Wants Marines To Send Muslim Families To ‘Paradise’

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/03/hate-rally-muslim-charity/

did you ever read the article ? Are you a dishonest person?

She said she wants to send "terrorists" not Muslims to paradise.
All you read was the article headline, which was incorrect.

amy31416
03-05-2011, 03:31 PM
did you ever read the article ? Are you a dishonest person?

She said she wants to send "terrorists" not Muslims to paradise.
All you read was the article headline, which was incorrect.

That's the title of the article, I don't think Agorism is being dishonest, though perhaps ThinkProgress is. I'd think that you may want to take into account, though, that this was directed at actual Muslim families who were actually in the area.

As is often the case, "terrorist" is interchangeable with Muslim with some people. And considering that these people were speaking out at a Muslim charitable fundraiser...well...that's a bit sketchy.

doodle
03-05-2011, 03:38 PM
did you ever read the article ? Are you a dishonest person?

She said she wants to send "terrorists" not Muslims to paradise.
All you read was the article headline, which was incorrect.

The headline of TP article is interpretive, but what you stated is also incomplete. She said "these terroists" and not "those terrorists" over there protesting in Egypt or mideast and the like that people like retired Pastor Huckabee see as threat.
Unless from "these terrorists" she was referring to people there in her own rally?

squarepusher
03-05-2011, 03:46 PM
The headline of TP article is interpretive, but what you stated is also incomplete. She said "these terroists" and not "those terrorists" over there protesting in Egypt or mideast and the like that people like retired Pastor Huckabee see as threat.
Unless from "these terrorists" she was referring to people there in her own rally?

ya, i think she really meant to say that marines should kill local muslims! :rolleyes:
I think some of us might be a bit out of touch here that republicans want to kill all muslims

doodle
03-05-2011, 03:56 PM
ya, i think she really meant to say that marines should kill local muslims! :rolleyes:
I think some of us might be a bit out of touch here that republicans want to kill all muslims

Do you see her as representative of Republicans?


There are few different threads on same issue, so perhaps things don't get properly clarified. From other thread:

It would be a mistake to think that most or even many Republicans are like these few crazy people, they come across as agitated or mentally unbalanced. That's one of the possible side effects of observing violence like wars and 9/11.
Organizer linked to this event Pamella Geller is more liberal than conservative, she is leading gay rights activist and has won awards from gay rights community for her work, supports ending DADT and wants US military to be more like Israel's with no restrictions on homosexuality in military. How many Republican women like that we know?
Won't be surprised if turned out that she used to be a settler in Israel and had bad dating experience with arab men there.



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