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FrankRep
03-02-2011, 04:19 PM
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When the Supreme Court was given the opportunity to extend the realm of privacy for corporations, it failed, 8-0.


Supreme Court: Corporations Are Persons without Personal Privacy (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-latest/6538-supreme-court-corporations-are-persons-without-personal-privacy)


Bob Adelmann | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
02 March 2011
AZKing
03-02-2011, 04:27 PM
LOL. Seriously, why are corporations subject to corporate personhood but don't even have the same rights anyway?

About time Congress does away with the 14th Amendment. If 'person' can be interpreted as corporation, what can't it be interpreted as.
Thomas
03-02-2011, 04:38 PM
why shouldn't a corporation (a collection of individuals) have rights?
akforme
03-02-2011, 06:07 PM
LOL. Seriously, why are corporations subject to corporate personhood but don't even have the same rights anyway?

About time Congress does away with the 14th Amendment. If 'person' can be interpreted as corporation, what can't it be interpreted as.

What is a corporation? It's not made up of robots is it? If you have the right as an individual, you should have that same right as a collection of individuals. If you have personal privacy, then a group should be allotted the same right.

But they shouldn't have more rights as a group like they do now. People incorporate for tax and legal liability benefits. That's not freedom for the individual.
Danke
03-02-2011, 06:18 PM
why shouldn't a corporation (a collection of individuals) have rights?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

Cooprorations have civil rights as they are a creature of the State. A privilege and alienable.

Humans have natural (unalienable) Rights.
EndDaFed
03-02-2011, 06:22 PM
On a serious note us slaves don't have a right to privacy. So it's only fair.
Danke
03-02-2011, 06:24 PM
Well if corporations are persons under the law then why no income taxes? :)

Corporations do pay income taxes.
EndDaFed
03-02-2011, 06:25 PM
Corporations do pay income taxes.

No they pay corporate taxes on profits. God people can't take a joke around here.
Thomas
03-02-2011, 06:27 PM
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

Cooprorations have civil rights as they are a creature of the State. A privilege and alienable.

Humans have natural (unalienable) Rights.

how are they a creature of the state?
FrankRep
03-02-2011, 06:31 PM
how are they a creature of the state?

A Corporation is an Artificial Person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_personality) sanctioned by the Government.
akforme
03-02-2011, 06:44 PM
how are they a creature of the state?

The laws around corporations that give the collective and advantage over the individual have become a creature.

I understand the right of the person in the corporation, my question is how does the collective own or do something without an individual being liable for it? If we as individuals are liable, then as a group we shouldn't be able to be shielded from it. How does that work in a free market? Partnership?
Live_Free_Or_Die
03-02-2011, 06:44 PM
why shouldn't a corporation (a collection of individuals) have rights?

are you held individually responsible for your car because you own it?

why should you be able to own a corporation and not be individually responsible?
sratiug
03-02-2011, 07:22 PM
why shouldn't a corporation (a collection of individuals) have rights?

A collection of individuals is called a group, crowd, mob, etc. A corporation in America is a legal entity created by a state government through a charter which may be revoked at any time and regulated in any way the individual state sees fit. It is not an individual and has no rights whatsoever.
MN Patriot
03-02-2011, 07:59 PM
A collection of individuals could also be called a government. Should a government be able to keep its privacy?

I think it is entirely justified to tax corporate profits, not out of some Marxist hatred towards businesses and profits, but because a corporation is a create of the state and has certain privileges and advantages that individuals don't.

International corporations have become a challenge to traditional nation-states. Corporations can pick and choose where to operate, claim profits, employ people. World government may eventually have corporations as state-like entities.
Nathan Hale
03-02-2011, 08:13 PM
A collection of individuals could also be called a government. Should a government be able to keep its privacy?

Every government in America, from your municipality to the fedgov, is an incorporated entity.