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WhiteWhaleHolyGrail
10-23-2007, 06:16 PM
Gravel asks for support below in bold. He's good to have in the debates because he exposes truth about the front-running candidates.


A Letter from Mike Gravel also posted on the Huffington Post

Tuesday, October 23, 2007


In the past year, I have attended 11 national Democratic debates of
which two were sponsored by corporate media giant NBC. However,
last week, NBC suddenly conjured up arbitrary polling and
fundraising requirements specifically designed to exclude me. None
of the previous debates I attended held such requirements.

When my staff called NBC directly to find out why I was now barred
from attending, Chuck Todd, NBC news' political director, told us
that there were three criteria we did not meet, namely that I had
not campaigned in New Hampshire and/or Iowa at least 14 times in
the past year, that I was not polling at 5% and that I hadn't
raised $1 million.

It is clear that NBC just wants me out of the race. This was made
evident by the fact that NBC did not even inform me of its
arbitrary criteria before making the decision to stifle my
campaign. NBC's Todd waited until 5 p.m. on Friday, Oct. 19, to
inform my staff that I was not invited to the Oct. 30 debate at
Drexel University in Philadelphia. That's a fact!

Since I announced my candidacy for the Democratic Nomination for
President of the United States on April 17, 2006, I have certainly
traveled to New Hampshire and Iowa at least 14 times. And,
according to a recent CNN poll, I am tied with Joe Biden, Dennis
Kucinich and Chris Dodd.

NBC claims I haven't raised enough money to qualify. I'm proud of
the fact that I don't collect millions from special interests (or
fugitives like Norman Hsu). The reason why Senator Hillary Clinton
seems to have a fundraising scandal every month is because money
has corrupted our democracy. By stifling my voice on the basis of
fundraising dollars, NBC is reinforcing the power of money over our
national political discussion and our freedom.

But why has NBC suddenly come up with "requirements" designed to
exclude me from the debate?

NBC's decision is proof that our corporate media do not want a
genuine debate over our impending war with Iran. During the last
debate I was the only one to aggressively confront Senator Clinton
over her vote to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist
organization. Had I not brought up the subject, seasoned NBC
commentator Tim Russert, the moderator of the Sept. 26 debate,
would not have even asked about it.

Most Americans still don't appreciate the gravity of that vote and
they don't understand that our government is intentionally raising
roadblocks to diplomacy. Corporate media have once again failed to
investigate how Bush and a compliant congress have set us on the
warpath. Instead the media simply parrots the demonization of
Iranian President Ahmadinejad and the administration's unproven
accusations against Iran. NBC and the other corporate media have
jumped on the war bandwagon and they are determined to shut up
anyone who tries to stop it.

The fact that NBC is owned by General Electric, one of the world's
leading military contractors, is frightening and certainly smacks
of censorship directed at the most outspoken critic of the
influence that the military-industrial complex holds over this
great nation. In the past decade, GE has benefited financially from
the global war on terrorism and currently holds almost $2 billion
in military contracts .

So I ask that anyone, who is as concerned as I am about the power
of the mainstream media and the military-industrial complex, speak
out in support of my campaign today.

Here are 3 powerful things you can do:

1. Sign the online petition to have me included in the debate!
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/letgravelspeakoct30

2. Contact NBC and GE and tell them they are wrong for trying to
stifle my campaign! Here are there emails you can copy/paste into
your "TO:" field of your email.

chuck.todd@nbcuni.com, viewerservices@msnbc.com,
directors@corporate.ge.com, ombudsperson@corporate.ge.com,
jeff.zucker@nbcuni.com, lynn.calpeter@nbcuni.com,
steve.capus@nbcuni.com

3. Email the DNC at http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact


Finally, since the powers that be now require that I raise $1
million in order to participate in the debates, please make a
donation to my campaign.

I will not stop. In fact, this fuels my fire even more.

Unlike my fellow candidates, I am not focused on raising millions of
dollars; I am focused on fixing representative government. Help us
reach that arbitrary threshold for financing and I will continue
to fight for democracy and peace for all of us, not just the
wealthy.

Best,
Mike
My web site: http://Gravel2008.us

jumpyg1258
10-23-2007, 06:18 PM
I signed the petition a few days ago about this. In the comments I posted that I was a RP supporter but believe no candidate should be excluded from their party's debate.

jm1776
10-23-2007, 06:40 PM
bump

Bad precedent to allow this.

Tina
10-23-2007, 07:15 PM
I'll sign it. He is one of the better men in the race. This really sucks IMO.:mad:

mwkaufman
10-23-2007, 07:19 PM
I won't sign. At this point in the race, I think it would be great to thin out the field, guys like Gravel, Hunter and Tancredo aren't going anywhere.

Chester Copperpot
10-23-2007, 07:20 PM
SIgned it

Tina
10-23-2007, 07:24 PM
I won't sign. At this point in the race, I think it would be great to thin out the field, guys like Gravel, Hunter and Tancredo aren't going anywhere.

You are missing the point. Perhaps someone will explain.:rolleyes:

RJB
10-23-2007, 08:09 PM
Gravel's a democrat. He's not a threat to Ron Paul. However, he's basically a Ron Paul on the democrat's side. He's the only one (besides Kucinich) who speaks the truth, at least the truth as he sees it.

Daveforliberty
10-23-2007, 08:10 PM
Signed. Let freedom ring!

werdd
10-23-2007, 08:18 PM
Sign it, gravel brings it to all of the pandering hitleries and hussein obamas every debate night. He is an american hero, he exposed vietnam, and carried on a 5 month filibuster. I dont like his ideals of goverment, but i do beleive he is a great american.

ItsTime
10-23-2007, 08:22 PM
man who built his website? he should get his money back

RJB
10-24-2007, 07:23 AM
I signed it...

Edward
10-24-2007, 09:59 AM
This serves as a poor precedent for those concerned about Congressman Paul, however, I am not sure that I agree with any sentiment that Gravel is a wonderful person. Gravel gloats about sticking credit card companies with $90,000 of his debt: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/09/27/gravel-to-credit-card-companies-charge-this/

BuddyRey
10-24-2007, 10:20 AM
Sweet!!!! Gravel's gonna be on Alex Jones today!!! :eek::eek::eek:

This will boost the support for his petition for sure.

Tim724
10-24-2007, 12:09 PM
Isn't Gravel socialist? He also has very little support or money I believe, so the TV networks may be justified.

Anyhow, I'm not a huge fan of Gravel. I think some people just like him because he "gives a middle finger to the establishment." Personally, I don't believe in "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" theory.

I mean, I don't like Ron Paul because he goes "against the system." I like him because I very specifically believe in his views.

jm1776
10-24-2007, 12:38 PM
The issue for me has nothing to do with Gravel the individual or his views. I don't like the idea of the media excluding candidates from debates. Where would we be if Ron Paul had been excluded from the first and subsequent debates?

katao
10-24-2007, 12:42 PM
The media should report not decide. I think it is our duty to remind them of this, regardless of Gavel's politics.

Leslie Webb
10-24-2007, 12:43 PM
I think the issue is one of fairness. If NBC is going to narrow down the debate field, it should
announce its intention and criteria well five or six months in advance. The decision to suddenly come up with these criteria smacks of ulterior motives.

RJB
10-24-2007, 12:51 PM
I differ with Gravel almost 180 on most issues, but I am so fed up with the two party monolith, that I'd gladly vote for an honest socialist like Kucinich or Gravel who speaks his mind than someone who claims to be a libertarian leaning conservative but is a flat out liar. This is what we've had with Bush. Few republicans would stand up to his socialist big government ideas. Atleast with a Gravel presidency it would enrgize legitimate opposition.

Thankfully there is an honest man who I agree with on just about every issue in Ron Paul. And even better he stands a good chance of winning.

In the long run, a banning precedent here could be used against Ron Paul in the future.

BuddyRey
10-24-2007, 12:56 PM
I just heard Gravel on Alex Jones and can state with a good deal of certainty (at least in my opinion) that Gravel is far from being a socialist. He sounds more like a left-anarchist or Georgist to me. Mike just tore Big Government a new one, said we need a National Initiative to directly empower the people to be legislators, and railed against the Military-Industrial Complex. Good stuff!!!!!! :D

RJB
10-24-2007, 01:35 PM
Actually he isn't anymore of a socialist than 90% the republican party. He's just open about where he stands.

Bradley in DC
10-24-2007, 01:48 PM
Free for all was before Labor Day. Time to thin the herd. He has no reason being there.

BuddyRey
10-24-2007, 02:11 PM
Free for all was before Labor Day. Time to thin the herd. He has no reason being there.

Except the very biggest reason ANY sane candidate should be in the debates; to shine a light of truth on the lunacy and ignorance of the people sharing his stage. If the Dems are gonna throw someone out, let it be Biden or Dodd, who literally have NO platforms, NO distinguishing characteristics which would separate them from the others, and who are about as inspiring as a pair of dishrags.

If Gravel leaves, the Dems lose all credibility, diversity of opinion, and flavor. Those debates would be a joke without him.

Cindy
10-24-2007, 02:50 PM
I signed it.

We can't make it easy for the Media to leave out candidates who do not conform to the status quo, or who call their darling front runners on their shananigans in front of the America people.

Mike has said a lot to expose Hillary and Obama up there. Please sign this!

eloquensanity
10-24-2007, 03:16 PM
I signed it.

I bet a lot of his traffic comes from here today ;)

Bradley in DC
10-24-2007, 03:18 PM
Except the very biggest reason ANY sane candidate should be in the debates; to shine a light of truth on the lunacy and ignorance of the people sharing his stage. If the Dems are gonna throw someone out, let it be Biden or Dodd, who literally have NO platforms, NO distinguishing characteristics which would separate them from the others, and who are about as inspiring as a pair of dishrags.

If Gravel leaves, the Dems lose all credibility, diversity of opinion, and flavor. Those debates would be a joke without him.

You just made the case for me and for Dr. Paul!