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Brian4Liberty
02-28-2011, 02:03 PM
Many issues are involved in this story. The always present conflict between development and the natural environment, the need for new energy sources, and the conflict and/or partnership between government and corporations.

Also of interest are the new(?) religious aspects...for example, one guy can start an "organization" and make all kinds of claims...


http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/24/local/la-me-solar-suit-20110224

The image of Cicimiti, more detectable from the sky than on foot, is just one of many geoglyphs, Native American burial sites and ancient relics that Figueroa says are threatened by solar projects being fast-tracked near Blythe and other remote expanses in the Southern California desert.

"There's no way these people can circumvent all the sacred sites out here, and no way to fix it when the damage is done," said Figueroa, 77. "How can you mitigate Mother Earth?"

The Native American group La Cuna de Aztlan Sacred Sites Protection Circle, which Figueroa founded, has joined with environmentalists in a federal lawsuit to block six mammoth solar projects approved by the Department of the Interior.
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Bureau officials have raised doubts about the age of some of the geoglyphs. One large image, representing Kokopelli a hunchbacked fertility deity with a flute is being contested. Figueroa says it's more than 10,000 years old, while the bureau says it's only 20 years old.

"We're not making up stories," Figueroa said. "We've lived here for thousands of years. We know what's transpired."

Somehow, his use of the word "Aztlan" and his claim of living there for thousands of years don't seem to mesh very well. The native people who have actually lived there for the past thousand years might dispute his claims.

dannno
02-28-2011, 02:20 PM
Ya it's funny how environmental projects always seem to end up being halted by environmental groups.

the_strand
02-28-2011, 09:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFJ1XL65Jfw

Brian4Liberty
03-01-2011, 01:39 PM
Ya it's funny how environmental projects always seem to end up being halted by environmental groups.

In addition you have all of the NIMBYs. That even seems to be the issue in this case. These people probably want solar energy, just not in their area.

What are our options on energy according to the radicals? Fossil fuels? Too much green house gases and pollution. Solar? OK, as long as it's not in my backyard or "ugly". Hydro? Can't have dams, they disturb the fishes. Nuclear? Double No! They might explode, and they create radioactive waste! Wind? It kills the birds!

Seems to be another case of denial of reality, similar to the idea that everyone can live off of (or work for) the government.

Brian4Liberty
03-01-2011, 03:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFJ1XL65Jfw

Yeah, ancient history and migrations of people is in no way "settled". Various peoples have come and gone for tens of thousands of years.

Even in relatively recent modern times, territorial claims in California related to "Aztlan" are ridiculous. Maps of the Aztec and Mayan empires don't quite make it up to California...

http://www.myanmars.net/myanmar-history/mayan-civilization1.jpg