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Zatch
02-24-2011, 05:48 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/frrth/stop_the_koch_brothers_they_are_trying_to_end_the/
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emazur
02-24-2011, 05:50 PM
I beat ya to it bro: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?281211-Hilarious-satire-on-reddit-STOP-THE-KOCH-BROTHERS.-They-are-trying-to-end-the-War-on-Drug&p=3132696#post3132696
But yeah check it out if you didn't click before

american.swan
02-24-2011, 05:56 PM
I really don't know. There just doesn't seem to be enough data on the Koch Brothers. How do we know they aren't just making this up to give themselves a good reputation? They were hidden from America's mind for eons, but suddenly NOW they want their voices heard. When a UK rep visits Germany, do you really trust the "press release" on what they supposedly talked about behind closed doors? I don't. Why would I trust the Koch Brothers?

We trust the Paul's because they have a solid record of votes proving their rhetoric. Until I see hard evidence, I don't have any reason to believe the Kock Brothers are doing anything for liberty.

FrankRep
02-24-2011, 06:07 PM
Until I see hard evidence, I don't have any reason to believe the Kock Brothers are doing anything for liberty.

The Koch Brothers are a major financial force behind Americans for Prosperity (http://www.americansforprosperity.org/), The Cato Institute (http://www.cato.org/), and the Reason Foundation (http://reason.org/)


Wikipedia: David H. Koch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Koch#Advocacy)



In 1984, Koch founded, served as Chairman of the board of directors of, and donated to the free-market Citizens for a Sound Economy. In 2004, this organization separated into Americans for Prosperity Foundation and FreedomWorks. Koch continues as Chairman of the Board and gives money to Americans for Prosperity Foundation and to a related advocacy organization, Americans for Prosperity. A Koch spokesperson issued a press release stating that the Koch's have "no ties to and have never given money to FreedomWorks"

Both FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity have been providing funding and training to the US Tea Party movement, which opposes much of U.S. President Barack Obama's policies and legislative agenda. In addition, Koch sits on the board and gives money to the libertarian Cato Institute and Reason Foundation. In the late summer and early fall of 2010, Koch's contributions to political campaigns, free-market think tanks and other advocacy organizations came under increased scrutiny. Koch supports the Tea Party movement and Republican candidates, and California Proposition 23 (2010). In July 2010, New York Magazine profiled him, calling him the "tea party’s wallet". In August 2010, Jane Mayer of The New Yorker wrote on the political spending of David and Charles Koch.[18] White House political advisor David Axelrod wrote in The Washington Post, calling them "campaigners we can't see." Koch says that: "I’ve never been to a tea party event. No one representing the tea party has ever even approached me."

Zatch
02-24-2011, 06:07 PM
I really don't know. There just doesn't seem to be enough data on the Koch Brothers. How do we know they aren't just making this up to give themselves a good reputation? They were hidden from America's mind for eons, but suddenly NOW they want their voices heard. When a UK rep visits Germany, do you really trust the "press release" on what they supposedly talked about behind closed doors? I don't. Why would I trust the Koch Brothers?

We trust the Paul's because they have a solid record of votes proving their rhetoric. Until I see hard evidence, I don't have any reason to believe the Kock Brothers are doing anything for liberty.

They also donated 10 million each to the ACLU for the specific purpose of fighting the PATRIOT Act: http://www.lasocialdiary.com/node/125921

daviddee
02-24-2011, 06:44 PM
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american.swan
02-24-2011, 06:54 PM
I'm all for liberty. If they're really doing all those things, it'd be great; i sure hope so. I don't have any bad thing to report about the Koch brothers.

ninepointfive
02-24-2011, 07:19 PM
These Koch brothers likely get a lot of attention and are credited for funding different conservative actions... But the truth is, is that they have been accused of funding a rally we held, when it could be the furthest thing from reality.

$0 spent
maybe 6 hrs spent social networking
300 people show up

simple as that

I think some fact checking is in order. Its all assumptions taking place here.

mtj458
02-24-2011, 08:19 PM
If you're a libertarian student odds are you have taken advantage of a lot of the Koch Brother's donations. People around here can say what they want about them, and I'm sure some if it true, but it's obvious to any college aged libertarian that a lot of what we do wouldn't be possible without the Koch Brother's money.

Jinks
02-24-2011, 08:35 PM
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Jinks
02-24-2011, 08:36 PM
The Koch Brothers are a major financial force behind Americans for Prosperity (http://www.americansforprosperity.org/), The Cato Institute (http://www.cato.org/), and the Reason Foundation (http://reason.org/)


Wikipedia: David H. Koch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Koch#Advocacy)



In 1984, Koch founded, served as Chairman of the board of directors of, and donated to the free-market Citizens for a Sound Economy. In 2004, this organization separated into Americans for Prosperity Foundation and FreedomWorks. Koch continues as Chairman of the Board and gives money to Americans for Prosperity Foundation and to a related advocacy organization, Americans for Prosperity. A Koch spokesperson issued a press release stating that the Koch's have "no ties to and have never given money to FreedomWorks"

Both FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity have been providing funding and training to the US Tea Party movement, which opposes much of U.S. President Barack Obama's policies and legislative agenda. In addition, Koch sits on the board and gives money to the libertarian Cato Institute and Reason Foundation. In the late summer and early fall of 2010, Koch's contributions to political campaigns, free-market think tanks and other advocacy organizations came under increased scrutiny. Koch supports the Tea Party movement and Republican candidates, and California Proposition 23 (2010). In July 2010, New York Magazine profiled him, calling him the "tea party’s wallet". In August 2010, Jane Mayer of The New Yorker wrote on the political spending of David and Charles Koch.[18] White House political advisor David Axelrod wrote in The Washington Post, calling them "campaigners we can't see." Koch says that: "I’ve never been to a tea party event. No one representing the tea party has ever even approached me."

are you related to them?

Michael Landon
02-24-2011, 08:40 PM
Here is an excellent article on the Koch's:

http://thesmartmoney.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/covert-operations-by-jane-mayer-in-the-current-new-york-magazine-frightening-and-more-william-l-shirer-author-of-inside-the-third-reich-was-asked-in-1963-if-he-thought-amerika-could-turn/

- ML

heavenlyboy34
02-24-2011, 09:26 PM
Here's Jeff Riggenbach's episode about them from The Libertarian Tradition.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDMw40b1-dc

Epic
02-24-2011, 09:27 PM
Koch's are enigmatic.

A lot of good, some bad.

They don't like the Pauls. They are basically pro-Fed. They didn't like Rothbard.

But they fund a lot of libertarian stuff.

Jinks
02-24-2011, 10:47 PM
Koch's are enigmatic.

A lot of good, some bad.

They don't like the Pauls. They are basically pro-Fed. They didn't like Rothbard.

But they fund a lot of libertarian stuff.

They're only libertarian when it benefits their own industries.

BlackTerrel
02-24-2011, 11:46 PM
Where is their money from?

Jinks
02-24-2011, 11:51 PM
Where is their money from?

http://www.kochind.com/IndustryAreas/default.asp

Athena
02-25-2011, 02:32 AM
Where is their money from?

Crony capitalism.