Egyptian Revolution Accomplished Nothing

[Flash]

Originally, State comedians said "We support Mubarak. He's a good guy." Now they're saying "We support democracy in Egypt."

If you're a state insider, there's no penalty for lying or changing your story. Most slaves are too brainwashed to remember.

Mubarak resigned. So what? One puppet figurehead is replaced with another puppet figurehead.

As long as the slaves pay taxes, it makes no difference to whom you pay. You have a different figurehead master, but you're still a slave. All the State bureaucrats in Egypt kept their jobs.

Even more ironically, Egypt's military is ruling until the next election. "Mubarak was corrupt but the military are decent guys." That's a clever lie! The military/police and the figurehead ruler are on the same team!

Allegedly, the reason Mubarak delayed resigning was to launder his savings. Some of his accounts were frozen. Others were cleverly hidden. Other dictators are eager to accept Mubarak, in case the favor needs to be returned someday! It's a type of loyalty among criminals. A deposed dictator can usually find a refuge, provided he cooperates with his masters.

In another ironic twist, Mubarak allegedly shipped some gold out of the country. In Tunisia, the deposed dictator did the same thing. State insiders don't want the slaves to use gold as money. State insiders resort to gold when they need to untraceably move wealth in a hurry!

I don't know of any Egyptian protesters who were saying "All taxation is theft!" It wasn't a real market anarchist revolt. State comedians say "Be glad you have the State. Otherwise, it would be a mess like the riots in Egypt!"

A riot is pointless. It doesn't threaten the State's core monopoly, the violence/taxation/economic monopoly. Token concessions are given to the rioters (Mubarak resigns). The scam of the State continues.

Democracy is fake freedom. The "democracy" in Egypt will probably be a fake choice between insider-screened candidates. With a year until the election, that gives time to promote "approved" candidates as potential leaders.

A riot or protest is like slaves begging their master to be less cruel. An anti-State protest is pointless if you also pay taxes/tribute to the State extortion racket.

The protest in Egypt accomplished nothing. One figurehead leader is replaced with another figurehead leader. The scam of the State continues.

The people in Egypt don't understand "All taxation is theft! Government is one huge extortion racket! A government violence monopoly is evil and unnecessary!" Until those lessons are learned, no revolt can accomplish anything good.




http://fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/2011/02/egyptian-protesters-accomplished.html

This guy has kind of a depressing view on the Egyptian situation but I fear he's right. Mubarak is gone so now they're left with a military-controlled government. Just great.

[Pericles]

What were you expecting?

[awake]

This is how it is done. Everyone sees the military as the savior when it's the final stage of totalitarianism. That light at the end of the tunnel really is the train.

[Pericles]

Even when the nation's military seems effective at fighting wars, that skill does not transfer to the civil institutions. That is the fallacy in trying to make the "war on drugs", "war on terror", and other activities that are not military in nature into activities where the military methods seem tempting effective, is that at the end of the day, the military officers may consider themselves better at running government than the civil officials. Nothing good comes from that.

[JoshLowry]

That light at the end of the tunnel really is the train.

Haha, I love that. Cartoon worthy?

[FrankRep]

Haha, I love that. Cartoon worthy?

http://www.filehurricane.com/viewerthumbnails/528200815420PM_progress.jpg

[Jinks]

thanks for being the party pooper.

I was REALLY AFRAID that the fact Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Bahrain protested and rioted, would give Americans the idea "we can do it too", that would be just an absolute nightmare.

[BlackTerrel]

Way to early to tell. Could be better, could be worse, could be the same.

Don't see how anyone could make such a conclusion a couple weeks in.

[libertybrewcity]

I think it's still going on. Last I heard, they still hadn't left Tahrir Square.

[Vessol]

I think it's still going on. Last I heard, they still hadn't left Tahrir Square.

I heard that the military forcefully removed them from the square.

As to the results, I am not very surprised.

[Jinks]

Way to early to tell. Could be better, could be worse, could be the same.

Don't see how anyone could make such a conclusion a couple weeks in.

That's why they said "accomplished" nothing (as in not yet)

http://motivationalmaker.com/saved_posters/poster_vvfb45iep4.jpg

[Athena]

Or maybe the military is just heavily influenced by the US, and actual democratic election will happen in several months?

[pcosmar]

Jumping to conclusions.
In Truth, I don't know what the government of Egypt will look like. Neither do the doom sayers.
The military took control of the Government Temporarily, until a interim (temporary) government was established and a new constitution written.
Mubarak wrote the present constitution and it is unacceptable to the people. The senior Judges in the country want a fair Legal System in place and were an active force in the protests. They will be involved in the reforms.

Then open elections will be held, and the various political parties will present their positions and plans.
This is a process that will take months, likely a year or so.
It is far to early to be making doom and gloom predictions.

[Chester Copperpot]

Haha, I love that. Cartoon worthy?

Yeah thats an instant classic line...

[jtstellar]

i remember one person praising the egyptian uprising when i asked him: what would you replace it with? capitalism or communism/totalitarianism, his response was "you're just playing on words. the question is meaningless". guess it is not.

[osan]

http://fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/2011/02/egyptian-protesters-accomplished.html

This guy has kind of a depressing view on the Egyptian situation but I fear he's right. Mubarak is gone so now they're left with a military-controlled government. Just great.

And just how is this surprising?

[osan]

i remember one person praising the egyptian uprising when i asked him: what would you replace it with? capitalism or communism/totalitarianism, his response was "you're just playing on words. the question is meaningless". guess it is not.

Did you do that person the kind favor of alerting him to the fact that he is an imbecile and should sterilize himself lest he reproduce?

[wizardwatson]

Ron Paul said as much (that it wouldn't make a difference) and also pointed out that the leader of the military is Mubarak's brother or something. Can't remember where I watched the tube of it though.

It's a good old boy's club just like anywhere.

[osan]

Jumping to conclusions.
In Truth, I don't know what the government of Egypt will look like. Neither do the doom sayers.

Actually, we pretty much do. Those people will continue to be slaves because they will remain at the point of a gun to do the bidding of whatever it is that replaces what was, which when we scratch the surface away, will look and smell suspiciously like what was. I feel precious little threat to my credibility on this one. I'm all for eating crow, too, I might add. I just don't anticipate that will be forthcoming.


The military took control of the Government Temporarily,

"Temporary" has a funny way of sometimes becoming a rather protracted span. Mubarak was only temporary... for 30 years.


until a interim (temporary) government was established and a new constitution written.

And how, exactly, do you find that this will change things fundamentally?


Mubarak wrote the present constitution and it is unacceptable to the people.

A constitution is not nearly as relevant as those administering it, as well as those tolerating the administrators "interpretations".


The senior Judges in the country want a fair Legal System in place and were an active force in the protests. They will be involved in the reforms.

But again your tone implies some expectation that things will be fairly and reasonably designed and implemented. I hope you are right, but I fail to see what basis you hold for such expectations. This all seems so very much like a trip to Fantasy Island.... I can hear that little short d00d croaking out "the plane! the plane!"


Then open elections will be held, and the various political parties will present their positions and plans.
This is a process that will take months, likely a year or so.
It is far to early to be making doom and gloom predictions.

And they all lived happily ever after?

[pcosmar]

And they all lived happily ever after?

My expectations are not that high. But following the writings of some involved there, there is a hope for better.
Not perfect, just better. There is a lot of volunteerism there, and it was evidenced during the protests and afterward.
There are some libertarians that will be involved. There are also socialists, and theocratic and no doubt some apathetic.
It is too early. But I am watching hopefully to see how it develops.
It does put a kink in NWO plans, and that tickles me.

[Andrew-Austin]

The best thing that could have happened with the situation in Egypt, would be if Mubarak had refused to step down, or held out a lot longer (he was de facto powerless anyways after the protest/revolution began?). Now I only hope the Egyptians see through the next set or rulers quickly enough, so they can further play with the thought of not having rulers.

[torchbearer]

The best thing that could have happened with the situation in Egypt, would be if Mubarak had refused to step down, or held out a lot longer (he was de facto powerless anyways after the protest/revolution began?). Now I only hope the Egyptians see through the next set or rulers quickly enough, so they can further play with the thought of not having rulers.

if a true free state came out of one of these revolts, i'd consider moving. a lot of these regions have oil industry. i could find work in a free state.

[jtstellar]

if a true free state came out of one of these revolts, i'd consider moving. a lot of these regions have oil industry. i could find work in a free state.

remains to be seen whether the us wants a truly free and powerful country dominating that region without trying to subvert it in the process of its making

[pcosmar]

remains to be seen whether the us wants a truly free and powerful country dominating that region without trying to subvert it in the process of its making

I have absolutely no doubt they will try. They do not like to lose.
but to say "Egyptian Revolution Accomplished Nothing" is just not true.
A people stood up to a Brutal US backed Dictator, and demanded he leave. That is an accomplishment in and of itself.
They inspired others to do the same. another accomplishment. They have upset the status quo and changed the face of ME politics.

the full extent of the accomplishment ( for good or ill) is yet to be seen.

[Sola_Fide]

http://fskrealityguide.blogspot.com/2011/02/egyptian-protesters-accomplished.html

This guy has kind of a depressing view on the Egyptian situation but I fear he's right. Mubarak is gone so now they're left with a military-controlled government. Just great.

Yeah.

Usually the result of our propping up dictators is that an equally brutal (or more brutal) regime is required to take their place.