Arizona: Children born from Illegal immigrants are not Arizona Citizens!

[aGameOfThrones]

PHOENIX — Arizona lawmakers are proposing a sweeping package of immigration restrictions that might make the controversial measures the state approved last year, which the Obama administration went to court to block, look mild.

Illegal immigrants would be barred from driving in the state, enrolling in school or receiving most public benefits. Their children would receive special birth certificates that would make clear that the state does not consider them Arizona citizens.

Some of the bills, like those restricting immigrants’ access to schooling and right to state citizenship, flout current federal law and are being put forward to draw legal challenges in hopes that the Supreme Court might rule in the state’s favor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/us/24arizona.html?_r=1&hp

[libertybrewcity]

well done arizona, i agree

[Zippyjuan]

A state doesn't determine who is a citizen of the country though I don't disagree with no drivers licenses or public education.

[Sola_Fide]

There are good arguments on both sides of this.

[Zippyjuan]

Can't get married is definately going too far.

Illegal immigrants would be blocked from obtaining any state licenses, including those for marriage. Landlords would be forced to evict the entire family from public housing if one illegal immigrant were found living in a unit. Illegal immigrants found driving would face 30 days in jail and forfeit the vehicle to the state.




Janet Napolitano, the secretary of homeland security and a former Arizona governor, cites statistics showing that the influx of illegal immigrants across the Arizona border has declined markedly with significant increases in federal resources. But that has done little to ameliorate the feeling of crisis expressed by many Arizona politicians.

The state’s business community, stung by a boycott that has reduced the number of conventions in the state, generally opposes the new round of restrictions. “This will put Arizona through another trial and hurt innocent businesspeople who are just trying to get ahead,” said Glenn Hamer of the Arizona Chamber of Commerce and Industry.

[aGameOfThrones]

A state doesn't determine who is a citizen of the country though I don't disagree with no drivers licenses or public education.

"It is quite clear, then, that there is a citizenship of the United States and a citizenship of a State, which are distinct from each other and which depend upon different characteristics or circumstances in the individual. "~ Slaughter House Cases, 83 U.S. 36][(1873)

"The first clause of the fourteenth amendment made negroes citizens of the United States**, and citizens of the State in which they reside, and thereby created two classes of citizens, one of the United States** and the other of the state."
[Cory et al. v. Carter, 48 Ind. 327]
[(1874)]

"The right to trial by jury in civil cases, guaranteed by the 7th Amendment…and the right to bear arms guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment…have been distinctly held not to be privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States guaranteed by the 14th Amendment…and in effect the same decision was made in respect of the guarantee against prosecution, except by indictment of a grand jury, contained in the 5th Amendment…and in respect of the right to be confronted with witnesses, contained in the 6th Amendment…it was held that the indictment, made indispensable by the 5th Amendment, and trial by jury guaranteed by the 6th Amendment, were not privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, as those words were used in the 14th Amendment. We conclude, therefore, that the exemption from compulsory self-incrimination is not a privilege or immunity of National citizenship guaranteed by this clause of the 14th Amendment."
[Twining v. New Jersey, 211 US 78, 98-99]

"We might say that such regulations were unjust, tyrannical, unfit for the regulation of an intelligent state; but, if rights of a citizen are thereby violated, they are of that fundamental class, derived from his position as a citizen of the state, and not those limited rights belonging to him as a citizen of the United States; and such was the decision in Corfield v. Coryell."
[The United States v. Susan B. Anthony (11 2nd. Jud. Cir.] 200, 1873)

"[W]e find nothing…which requires that a citizen of a state must also be a citizen of the United States, if no question of federal rights or jurisdiction is involved."
[Crosse v. Bd. of Supvrs of Elections, 221 A.2d. 431 (1966) ]

"United States citizenship does not entitle citizens to rights and privileges of state citizenship."
[K. Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236, 256 P. 545 (1927), 48 Supreme Court. 527.]

"A person may be a citizen of the United States** and yet be not identified or identifiable as a citizen of any particular state."~ [Du Vernay v. Ledbetter] [61 So.2d 573, emphasis added]

[Thomas]

freedom to travel is a right and it should only pertain to public school >:{

[aGameOfThrones]

Can't get married is definately going too far.

Privileges. They can get married, just not with the state's approval.

[Noob]

Arizona Senate Bill 1308 Defines Dual Citizens As Natural Born Citizens

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/attorney-leo-donofrio-arizona-senate.html

[eduardo89]

I agree with this

On another note, is the case about whether a state can enforce immigration laws and have its own policies going to the scotus?

[t0rnado]

“If you are ever going to stop this invasion, and it is an invasion, you have to quit rewarding people for breaking those laws,” said State Senator Russell Pearce, the Senate president, who is leading Arizona’s effort to try to make life so difficult for illegal immigrants that they stop coming, or leave.

Exactly the case Ron Paul was making. We reward 'illegal immigrants' with free public education and other benefits, so of course, they'll come here.

I don't care if people illegally cross the border if they don't leech off of taxpayer money.

[Noob]

SB 1308

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/arizonas-proposed-interstate-birth.html