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emazur
02-21-2011, 11:14 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/mailbag-ron-paul-in-2012-middle-east-upheavals-student-loans-20110221

Anyway, on to this week’s mail:

Matt,

I’d love to hear your answer and opinion on this. In light of the enormous disappointment that was Barack Obama, would you vote for Ron Paul over Barack Obama in 2012?

Nick Lekas

Nick,

After extended exposure to Ron Paul’s son earlier this year, which led me to believe that there are certain highly obnoxious beliefs that run in that family that Paul pere hasn’t copped to publicly, I’d have a hard time voting for him.

There you have it. Taibbi's entire claim to fame has been his column exposing corruption on Wall Street, but when all cards are on the table, based on mere suspicion he turns away from the most honest man in Washington and runs crying towards the man he knows to be a Wall Street corporate whore. Pathetic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb_Zkm5zqfY

Sola_Fide
02-21-2011, 11:17 PM
This fool lost all credibility years ago.

His opinion doesn't matter. I don't know why we even post his articles.

FSP-Rebel
02-21-2011, 11:17 PM
I c..

MRoCkEd
02-21-2011, 11:18 PM
Meanwhile, Rand Paul speaks out against the PATRIOT Act as Obama prepares to sign its renewal...

Bman
02-21-2011, 11:18 PM
This fool lost all credibity years ago.

His opinion doesn't matter. I don't know why we even post his articles.

That fool is a big reason I cancelled my Rolling Stone subscription years ago. I couldn't take the blatant nonsense all the time. I orginally bought the magazine to read about music, not liberal rants.

Cowlesy
02-21-2011, 11:20 PM
He goes on the warpath against Goldman Sachs, and who got the most campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs? Obama.

Kotin
02-21-2011, 11:21 PM
Meanwhile, Rand Paul speaks out against the PATRIOT Act as Obama prepares to sign its renewal...

yup.. it would be funny if it weren't so fucking backwards..


fuck this guy.

AuH20
02-21-2011, 11:21 PM
He's a liberal who doesn't like paleoconservatives. What a shock? ;)

sailingaway
02-21-2011, 11:26 PM
Why do we care?

In the midterms, he went to Kentucky to try to interview Rand, and hounded him asking the same question over and over....

What was the key question this banking analysis phenom wanted to ask Rand? And I quote:

"Do you think Martin Luther King was a communist?"

The man is a partisan troll.

FSP-Rebel
02-21-2011, 11:28 PM
He is a decent writer however, but he goes down this lane of dumbshittery.. He was so good a few days ago and then he jumps into the Grand Canyon.

BamaAla
02-21-2011, 11:29 PM
I never liked him because he's a Red Sux homer; this is just icing on my cake of hate.

Anti Federalist
02-21-2011, 11:32 PM
Meanwhile, Rand Paul speaks out against the PATRIOT Act as Obama prepares to sign its renewal...

And still is keeping Gitmo open.


He goes on the warpath against Goldman Sachs, and who got the most campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs? Obama.

And still has troops in Iraq.


yup.. it would be funny if it weren't so fucking backwards..

fuck this guy.

And has expanded the war into Pakistan.

Party partisanship is a mental disease.

emazur
02-21-2011, 11:35 PM
He goes on the warpath against Goldman Sachs, and who got the most campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs? Obama.

Beck also did a great expose on Goldman Sachs and fortunately had the good sense to turn to Ron Paul for some answers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l51Ow1MeNWY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bsACESBMFE

NewRightLibertarian
02-21-2011, 11:36 PM
Socialist drivel spouter. He has attempted to paint Bernie Sanders as the man behind the anti-FED awareness that opened up some of their books after he watered down the audit that Dr. Paul tried to get passed. Virtually nobody in the mainstream media can be trusted at this point, and it is glaringly obvious.

Thomas
02-21-2011, 11:40 PM
is there a way we can publicly respond to him? even in his own magazine? can rpf publish an open letter to him?

sailingaway
02-21-2011, 11:41 PM
is there a way we can publicly respond to him? even in his own magazine? can rpf publish an open letter to him?

Honestly, I think they make money off our 'responses'. Look how much attention YAF is getting for an essentially defunct organization....and Trump.... I mean, who has thought of Trump in YEARS?

Just let him fade away.....

emazur
02-21-2011, 11:42 PM
is there a way we can publicly respond to him? even in his own magazine? can rpf publish an open letter to him?

Post comments on the link - I would have but you need to log in w/ facebook which I don't use

low preference guy
02-21-2011, 11:43 PM
is there a way we can publicly respond to him? even in his own magazine? can rpf publish an open letter to him?

Maybe he reads his e-mail.

It would be nice I think to send him a short e-mail with the point MRoCkEd made. Possible text:

"Rand Paul is putting a hold on the Patriot Act while Obama is getting ready to sign it. Yet you would vote for Obama. You're a joke."

Anti Federalist
02-21-2011, 11:43 PM
Honestly, I think they make money off our 'responses'. Look how much attention YAF is getting for an essentially defunct organization....and Trump.... I mean, who has thought of Trump in YEARS?

Just let him fade away.....

That ^^^

hugolp
02-21-2011, 11:53 PM
This is tipical from the progressive (and neo-conservative) mentallity. They go in big rants full of moral rage and when the time for reality comes their solution is always to vote for the corporate masters because "the other side is worse". Left-right bullshit.

idirtify
02-22-2011, 12:03 AM
IMO, RS is a shit rag, and has been since at least 2002 when it published Mark Boal’s drug hit piece called "Designer-Drug Death".

JoshLowry
02-22-2011, 12:05 AM
is there a way we can publicly respond to him? even in his own magazine? can rpf publish an open letter to him?

I think it's worthy of a website and facebook group.

Fredom101
02-22-2011, 12:07 AM
This is tipical from the progressive (and neo-conservative) mentallity. They go in big rants full of moral rage and when the time for reality comes their solution is always to vote for the corporate masters because "the other side is worse". Left-right bullshit.

Bingo, you nailed it!

RonPaulPOTUS2012
02-22-2011, 12:31 AM
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Vergil
02-22-2011, 12:40 AM
This is tipical from the progressive (and neo-conservative) mentallity. They go in big rants full of moral rage and when the time for reality comes their solution is always to vote for the corporate masters because "the other side is worse". Left-right bullshit. Exactly. They can talk the talk (for good public image) but when push comes to shove, they have dollar signs in their eyes. If they did otherwise, they likely wouldn't have their job.

emazur
02-22-2011, 12:45 AM
Did you know people on Twitter use threads with titles like this against Ron Paul?

I've seen this thread all over Google Realtime today from people "tweeting" it

Looks pretty bad coming right from the forum lol

Never heard of google realtime til you mentioned this. I searched it for "taibbi" and only saw 1 tweet and that was from an RPF member. But I can see how it might look bad, but think of the flip side - liberals might see the tweet and think "Oooh, I wonder what those Paulbots think of this!" and take a look at this forum posting and get some useful info such as the video I posted in the OP. Long as I'm here, I'll leave one just for them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpWsH-t1eBc

emazur
02-22-2011, 12:46 AM
delete

RonPaulPOTUS2012
02-22-2011, 01:05 AM
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devil21
02-22-2011, 02:12 AM
Taibbi has always struck me as a controlled opposition type. He's one of the people that is allowed to spill the beans on certain things but is still kept in line on the big picture. The fact that he can be so "educated" about the role of Wall St in the raping of America, while paying off the politicians to allow it, but then still harp on crap about MLK as a reason to not vote for someone, shows he's just another shill.

jct74
02-22-2011, 03:18 AM
Here is what Taibbi said after his "extended exposure" to Rand Paul:


I think Rand Paul and a lot of these guys are going to end up being basically agents of Wall Street. They’re out there campaigning as libertarians who are pure capitalists, and I just know that’s not what it’s going to end up. It’s going to end up being this thing where they’re against spending when it’s for poor people and minority home owners, but be OK with bailouts for banks.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?270309-Matt-Taibbi-Rand-will-be-an-agent-of-Wall-Street-who-supports-bank-bailouts&highlight=taibbi

That IDIOT exposes his true intelligence right there. No clue on the subject he claims to be knowledgable on.

emazur
02-22-2011, 03:35 AM
Here is what Taibbi said after his "extended exposure" to Rand Paul:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?270309-Matt-Taibbi-Rand-will-be-an-agent-of-Wall-Street-who-supports-bank-bailouts&highlight=taibbi

That IDIOT exposes his true intelligence right there. No clue on the subject he claims to be knowledgable on.

I think Rand's been batting a thousand since taking office, but whatever skepticism I felt about him during the campaign most certainly did not include thoughts of him selling out to Wall Street. Stupid Taibbi. The link said he'll be on vacation for a week so he'll probably ignore all the criticism he'll get for this and be too busy dealing with new shit by the time he gets back.

Valli6
02-22-2011, 09:56 AM
In other words:

"After extended exposure to Ron Paul’s son earlier this year…"
(After I saw Rand Paul…)

"which led me to believe…"
(I made the assumption…)

"that there are certain highly obnoxious beliefs that run in that family..."
(that the entire Paul family believes extremely abhorrent things…)

"that Paul pere hasn’t copped to publicly…"
(even though I can't find any factual evidence of this)

"I’d have a hard time voting for him."
(Despite my pretense of moral outrage, I choose to vote for the Goldman-Sachs' funded warmonger.) :rolleyes:
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I'd post this there, but for the facebook login required.

Bern
02-22-2011, 10:04 AM
Matt Taibbi = Cognitive Dissonance

jtstellar
02-22-2011, 10:50 AM
why do people bring back this guy from time to time? why is his name coming up occasionally at all? that's the real thing i would like to know out of this whole waste of thread (imo) and pages of discussions

AuH20
02-22-2011, 12:19 PM
Inside the jacket of Taibbi's "Griftobia" he attacks Ayn Rand.

Epic
02-22-2011, 12:23 PM
Taibbi is the typical "progressive" who rails against corporatism, but will support it at the first chance he gets.

Romulus
02-22-2011, 12:26 PM
I told everyone he was a partisan troll- no matter how much he paid lip service to hating on Goldman Sachs - he's still a shill or completely backwards partisan hack, or likely both.

Brian4Liberty
02-22-2011, 12:37 PM
Here is what Taibbi said after his "extended exposure" to Rand Paul:


I think Rand Paul and a lot of these guys are going to end up being basically agents of Wall Street. They’re out there campaigning as libertarians who are pure capitalists, and I just know that’s not what it’s going to end up. It’s going to end up being this thing where they’re against spending when it’s for poor people and minority home owners, but be OK with bailouts for banks.


Obviously he doesn't know Rand or Ron. They would never vote for the bailouts.

But...one has to wonder how much damage Ayn Rand disciple Alan Greenspan has done to the "libertarian" image. No doubt people like Taibbi are just being collectivist, and paint all "libertarians" with the Greenspan brush. Greenspan certainly did turn into a tool for the Wall St. Banksters.

georgiaboy
02-22-2011, 12:43 PM
why do people bring back this guy from time to time? why is his name coming up occasionally at all? that's the real thing i would like to know out of this whole waste of thread (imo) and pages of discussions

A while back he wrote a pretty decent expose' of the financial crisis and all the players including Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros., GS, the bailouts, etc., so we thought he might be a freedom sympathizer in the media. Since then, he's been disappointment after disappointment, and now is more a curiosity we tend to watch to see if he's moving in our direction philosophically or not. The answer is - not.

bobbyw24
02-22-2011, 12:45 PM
You can reach Matt at:

M_TAIBBI@YAHOO.COM

Romulus
02-22-2011, 01:12 PM
A while back he wrote a pretty decent expose' of the financial crisis and all the players including Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros., GS, the bailouts, etc., so we thought he might be a freedom sympathizer in the media. Since then, he's been disappointment after disappointment, and now is more a curiosity we tend to watch to see if he's moving in our direction philosophically or not. The answer is - not.

It wasn't decent though - right off the bat he gave kudos to Bernie Sanders for his efforts. He blatantly ignore Ron's life work. It was biased journalism. He's a total partisan shill, who is NOT stupid. He's a partisan collectivist with a gigantic blind spot for reality or a well paid deceiving liar.

gls
02-22-2011, 01:19 PM
Taibbi is the typical "progressive" who rails against corporatism, but will support it at the first chance he gets.

Yeah, they act like the big banks and corporations screw over the American people and the government has nothing to do with facilitating it. Liberals are not particularly intelligent (understatement of the century).

Eric21ND
02-22-2011, 05:11 PM
He's becoming a bigger tard by the day...now I know why he's a recurring guest on Real Time with Bill Maher.

georgiaboy
02-22-2011, 05:18 PM
It wasn't decent though - right off the bat he gave kudos to Bernie Sanders for his efforts. He blatantly ignore Ron's life work. It was biased journalism. He's a total partisan shill, who is NOT stupid. He's a partisan collectivist with a gigantic blind spot for reality or a well paid deceiving liar.

hmm, ok, I didn't remember the article that way. I remembered a good recounting of the events, exposing the Wall-Streeters and their close ties with Treasury & the Fed, but whatever. He's definitely shown his real stripes since then.