Joe Rogan Schools Canadian Socialist

[dannno]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLHAIeXr1fA


Joe Rogan discusses politics and taxation with comedian Pete Johansson on his podcast "The Joe Rogan Experience" 2-16-11 (#81)

[FrankRep]

... fixed.

[dannno]

^ffixed

[No1ButPaul08]

3 seconds in and I can already tell this is going to be good.

[FrankRep]

Joe Rogan: You're a Socialist!
Dude: I'm not a Socialist.
Joe Rogan: You're absolutely a Socialist!

Why are so many Socialists in self denial?



http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/karlmarx-t.001.jpg


Know the Difference Between Marx and Madison? Poll Says Many Do Not (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/education/5619-do-americans-know-the-difference-between-marx-and-madison-poll-results-will-surprise-you)


Joe Wolverton, II | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
23 December 2010



A recent survey conducted earlier this month by the Harris Interactive polling firm on behalf of the Bill of Rights Institute reveals that 42 percent cannot distinguish between the teachings of Karl Marx and those of our Founding Fathers. by Joe Wolverton II

[dannno]

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[dannno]

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[ClayTrainor]

Sweet.

The people he was talking to seem like they've been watching some zeitgeist, they kept falling back on anti-money arguments.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Sweet.

The people he was talking to seem like they've been watching some zeitgeist, they kept falling back on anti-money arguments.

Anti-money has been tried before and it is even worse than regular ol' Communism. Anabaptists, Democratic Kampuche, etc. All horrible horrible conditions. I've never understood the logic either -- they don't want to outlaw trade, but money, but money is just any other good that people trade. It makes no sense. Are they going to outlaw linen, or rice, maybe copper if people start to use it as money?

[PermanentSleep]

Joe Rogan is a badass. :collins:

[PermanentSleep]

Are they going to outlaw linen, or rice, maybe copper if people start to use it as money?

^^that.

[nayjevin]

We are lucky that our idealism is justified and rooted in logic and history. There are many who share the idealism, but don't understand the solutions that have worked and those that have not.

[IDefendThePlatform]

Wha was the date and the time interval for verbal beatdown on the podcast? I just went to iTunes but it says Joe Rogan experience is either 2-15 or 2-17? Thanks

[TroySmith]

I like how he was scared of Feudalism, but then argued for a system that rewards with "giving titles and classes of stature" etc lol.

[S.Shorland]

This is why they are so afraid of Gold.Once people can save in a safe way and see their savings increased in purchasing power by ever increasing productivity,all this Socialist envy will evaporate like a mist.'We' (UK in my case) already went through the industrialisation phase.Socialism would be dead immediately.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

All these people who preach their systems wherein tolerance is an important virtue then go on to argue for a massive violent coercive system where there is no tolerance for dissension. I either have to conclude these people have IQ's of 75, or that they are merely thieves enveloped in an ideology. I am going with a hybrid where they are both stupid and thieves. Joe could have done better, but he held his own a bit. I would have called out the comedian that if he wants society to evolve, he must first evolve himself and until you can show us how what you propose is so much better why the fuck would we follow you? That is the thing -- everyones system always relies on a superior man, an enlightened man, a better man, etc. they all fail because humans will never change. The moment you hear someone trying to spread a system that relies on a human being comporting to a different nature than we have now, run far far away because there will be mass death and starvation soon to follow.

The thing with Capitalism is that it requires no new man. It is based on human nature as it is, and for that reason it is why it is much superior to any other (that and it being moral).

[Sola_Fide]

All these people who preach their systems wherein tolerance is an important virtue then go on to argue for a massive violent coercive system where there is no tolerance for dissension. I either have to conclude these people have IQ's of 75, or that they are merely thieves enveloped in an ideology. I am going with a hybrid where they are both stupid and thieves. Joe could have done better, but he held his own a bit. I would have called out the comedian that if he wants society to evolve, he must first evolve himself and until you can show us how what you propose is so much better why the fuck would we follow you? That is the thing -- everyones system always relies on a superior man, an enlightened man, a better man, etc. they all fail because humans will never change. The moment you hear someone trying to spread a system that relies on a human being comporting to a different nature than we have now, run far far away because there will be mass death and starvation soon to follow.

The thing with Capitalism is that it requires no new man. It is based on human nature as it is, and for that reason it is why it is much superior to any other (that and it being moral).

Excellent point ^^^

[dannno]

Wha was the date and the time interval for verbal beatdown on the podcast? I just went to iTunes but it says Joe Rogan experience is either 2-15 or 2-17? Thanks

#81 around the 50-55 minute mark is where it starts.

[dannno]

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[Freedom 4 all]

It totally does NOT work in Canada. WTF?! This is beyond retarded.

[Wren]

Not sure if this has been posted before, but I just found this great video of Bill maher and Joe rogan back in 2000 arguing against a socialist candidate and calling his ideology a "fantasy"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LfDn4vhQ6Y


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aKNQ9stFAs&feature=related

My, how things change. Starts at the 3:30 mark

[Romulus]

Someone was high on Venus Project crack.

[ClayTrainor]

Someone was high on Venus Project crack.

haha, it's annoying how popular that movie is. It seems like I encounter Zeitgeisters everywhere I go these days.

[BuddyRey]

That was really great. For those of you who haven't given it a look yet, it really is a must-watch.

[Mandrik]

All Joe needs to ask is, "Would you use force against me if I decided to not partake in your system?" Show these Canadian idiots the gun in the room and see how they react.

[Annihilia]

I don't think that other guy was really concerned about the poor.

With the solutions he was presenting, it almost seemed like he was simply envious of those with more 'stuff' than him, hence the creation of a caste system that really does nothing to serve the needy and only exists to limit the material gains of the rich.

[Romulus]

I don't think that other guy was really concerned about the poor.

With the solutions he was presenting, it almost seemed like he was simply envious of those with more 'stuff' than him, hence the creation of a caste system that really does nothing to serve the needy and only exists to limit the material gains of the rich.

Yep. A guise for jealously perhaps. And forced equality.

[BrendenR]

The anti-money argument is interesting.

If you frame the question as "should the government take their money when they die", they will respond one way.

But if you framed it as "should the government take his herd of cattle when he dies" or "should the government take his home when he dies (because it is too luxurous)" etc. etc. I'd imagine you'd get a totally different answer.

The question is not, should the government get my dollar bills, the question is should the government get my property. Then the socialism is quite apparent.

[Romulus]

The anti-money argument is interesting.

If you frame the question as "should the government take their money when they die", they will respond one way.

But if you framed it as "should the government take his herd of cattle when he dies" or "should the government take his home when he dies (because it is too luxurous)" etc. etc. I'd imagine you'd get a totally different answer.

The question is not, should the government get my dollar bills, the question is should the government get my property. Then the socialism is quite apparent.

Good angle there. That would expose the gun in their hand.

But the anti-money folks are = to anti gun, anti drug folks too. Its a tool and can not be blamed for a persons behavior.

[jrskblx125]

I like how he was scared of Feudalism, but then argued for a system that rewards with "giving titles and classes of stature" etc lol.

i know he like wanted to eliminate hierarchy via ... hierarchy???