Help! In the middle of converting.. need to clarify these things

[VoteRonPaul2008]

I can't vote for someone who
1. Advocates regressive taxation
2. Lies about the Federal Reserve in order to justify an inflexible monetary policy that will reward the haves at the expense of the have nots. (he says its not private) ?
3. Advocates isolationist foreign policy undermining global solutions to global problems (remember this is the guy that actively opposed one of the great multilateral humanitartian achievements of all time - the global eradication of small pox - a disease that used to kill 2 million people annually but now kills zero)

[Primbs]

Try the Ron Paul Library.

Here is something on the Federal Reserve.

http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=677

[rdenner]

I have no idea if this is serious but I'll take my shot..

I can't vote for someone who
1. Advocates regressive taxation

He advocates the elimination of the Income Tax which is horribly regressive and replacing it with.... Oh wait, no replacement, just an equal reduction in the ABC soup of federal department that eat away at the middle and lower classes through horrific taxation and debasement of the monetary system


2. Lies about the Federal Reserve in order to justify an inflexible monetary policy that will reward the haves at the expense of the have nots. (he says its not private) ?

No idea WTF you're trying to say here. Ron Paul has said time and time again that the FED neither has Reserves nor is it Federal. The federal reserve system is at the root of almost every single social ill this country(and possibly world) is facing these days.

3. Advocates isolationist foreign policy undermining global solutions to global problems (remember this is the guy that actively opposed one of the great multilateral humanitartian achievements of all time - the global eradication of small pox - a disease that used to kill 2 million people annually but now kills zero)

Your mixing questions here so I'll break them down

Isolationist: He is not an isolationist. On the contrary he is all for a more open borders position. More so than anyone else on the stage. He want to do away with THE INCENTIVES THAT CREATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION... PERIOD... If we didn't give away all these freebies to illigals and then throw salt on the wound by making states pay for it all(you and me), then there wouldn't be a problem. People would immigrate accross the border to work here and pay taxes just like everyone else(just not payroll taxes, but state consumption taxes or whatever else). They would be seen as an asset(which they are!!). Ron Paul understands that the Rep and Dems are using them as scapegoats(just in different ways)

Small Pox: Can just as easily IF NOT MORE EASILY have been eradicated by the free market. You assume THAT NO ONE WILL DO IT IF THE GOV DOESN'T DO IT... Which is typical socialist/fascist/collectivist thinking. Just look at the money that someone like Bill Gates or (spit) David Rockefellar spends on good works the globe over.

I would argue that having gov in the middle of it, prolongs the suffering as people are less willing to share information out of fear of loosing their grant money. If someone like Gates/Rockefellar was giving THEIR MONEY away they'd demand results and wouldn't put up with dumb ass scientists and their fame. They'd expect those scientist to work their asses off and get results..
Robert

[fj45lvr]

regressive?? so what's so bad about that America did fine with no personal income taxes....only one who is opposed to the "wealth redistribution" is someone who thinks that the MASSIVE bureaucracy is good for america (today it consumes nearly half of the GDP compared to less than 15% before the "PROGRESSIVE" taxation....in the words of a founder "the government that is best governs least".


What exactly is a lie about the private banking cabel?? Why was JFK executive order wrong exactly??? (clarify these claims).... precious metals are Constitutional and NOT COINCIDENTALY they keep the poorer people from being robbed by inflation (you don't believe in "savings"???)


there is no "isolationist foreign policy" there is the promotion of NON "Interventionist" foreign policy.....the two are very much different from one another......this point is mute though because America is going to be totally insolvent pretty soon so that will automatically take care of the "intervention" .....read a book entitled "war is a racket" by a lifelong marine.

[runderwo]

1. Advocates regressive taxation


Is this newspeak for "lowering taxes" in the new tax-and-spend conservative paradigm?



2. Lies about the Federal Reserve in order to justify an inflexible monetary policy that will reward the haves at the expense of the have nots. (he says its not private) ?


The monetary system as it is rewards the haves at the expense of the have nots. The haves have their money invested in non-financial assets, and Wall Street and the banks are going to town. The have-nots have saved their money expecting it to retain its value, and the monetary system has robbed that money of its value to insure the investments of the haves against natural risk.

[specsaregood]

2. Lies about the Federal Reserve in order to justify an inflexible monetary policy that will reward the haves at the expense of the have nots. (he says its not private) ?


The only real way to understand "Ron Paul", is to understand his monetary/fiscal policy-- and once you do, you will trust that he is "correct" on most any positions he has.

Without any assets backing our money and the ability to "create money out of thin air" there is NO WAY to limit the government's ambitions. With the ability to just create debt they have an unlimited credit card that can be treated as never having to pay the balance.

One of the factors that make giving the states the rights/responsibilities instead of the Fed, is that states can't just print money. So states have to live on a budget or tax and the citizens see the direct result of government programs.

Why do we build everything outside the U.S. nowadays? Because we have no incentive, we can just print and export more dollars. If we couldn't do that, and had a limited amount of funds, we would HAVE TO BUILD/EXPORT in order to get our money back, so we could spend it again.

To be honest, the war is not even near my top issue. Why? Because if we fixed the monetary system the government could not afford it unless the American Citizens were fully behind the war and willing to pay for it. If those dollars we are spending in Iraq were directly coming from Americans' paychecks every week, THIS WAR WOULD BE OVER.

[Bradley in DC]

I can't vote for someone who
1. Advocates regressive taxation
2. Lies about the Federal Reserve in order to justify an inflexible monetary policy that will reward the haves at the expense of the have nots. (he says its not private) ?
3. Advocates isolationist foreign policy undermining global solutions to global problems (remember this is the guy that actively opposed one of the great multilateral humanitartian achievements of all time - the global eradication of small pox - a disease that used to kill 2 million people annually but now kills zero)

1. Dr Paul wants to eliminate the most regressive parts of our federal taxation policies first.
2. The Federal Reserve System is a hybrid public (board) and private (reserve banks) system. Dr. Paul does not want a system with the flexibility to take from the poor and middle class and transfer wealth to special interests (Fed-member banks).
3. Dr. Paul recognizes that the real world is not all way or another but that on the whole multilateral organizations' bureaucracies interfer with private solutions (it was the pharmaceutical companies that developed the vaccine) since they are not accountable to the people.

[VoteRonPaul2008]

perfect thank you. I will try. this one is kind of hard headed.. but anything for Ron!

[me3]

I hope you are converting a potential max donor. And good luck!

[literatim]

Isolationist: He is not an isolationist. On the contrary he is all for a more open borders position. More so than anyone else on the stage. He want to do away with THE INCENTIVES THAT CREATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION... PERIOD... If we didn't give away all these freebies to illigals and then throw salt on the wound by making states pay for it all(you and me), then there wouldn't be a problem. People would immigrate accross the border to work here and pay taxes just like everyone else(just not payroll taxes, but state consumption taxes or whatever else). They would be seen as an asset(which they are!!). Ron Paul understands that the Rep and Dems are using them as scapegoats(just in different ways)

Ron Paul has said he wants to put more guards on the border, he has also voted for the fence.