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ronpaulhawaii
02-20-2011, 01:20 PM
[Edit - Check post 22 in this thread. It looks like WBC tried to bait anon with this "open letter"...]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20033942-501465.html


Your demonstrations and your unrelenting cascade of disparaging slurs, unfounded judgments, and prejudicial innuendos, which apparently apply to every individual numbered amongst the race of Man - except for yourselves - has frequently crossed the line which separates Freedom of Speech from deliberately utilizing the same tactics and methods of intimidation and mental & emotional abuse that have been previously exploited and employed by tyrants and dictators, fascists and terrorist organizations throughout history.

ANONYMOUS cannot abide this behavior any longer.

Thoughts?

RonPaulFanInGA
02-20-2011, 01:25 PM
LOL. If they don't have computers than really they got nothing to fear.

Nate-ForLiberty
02-20-2011, 01:26 PM
I remember the good ol' days when Anonymous was targeting murderers and thieves.

libertybrewcity
02-20-2011, 01:42 PM
I think it is incredible that anonymous can do this. I don't necessarily agree with them, but something on the inside applauds them every time. The Westboro Church is run by a family of lawyers. Anonymous would stop at nothing and could probably easily hack into their records and expose them to the word.

Warrior_of_Freedom
02-20-2011, 01:55 PM
anonymous vs the illuminati

Brooklyn Red Leg
02-20-2011, 02:09 PM
I remember the good ol' days when Anonymous was targeting murderers and thieves.

Yea. As much as I think the Westboro people are assjackals, they have the Natural Right to Freedom of Speech. This smacks of censorship.

sharpsteve2003
02-20-2011, 02:10 PM
LOL. If they don't have computers than really they got nothing to fear.

They've had a website for years which seems to be having trouble right now. godhatesfags.com also GodHatesTheMedia.com GodHatesTheWorld.com BeastObama.com PriestsRapeBoys.com AmericaIsDoomed.com are sister sites.

They have some really crazy parodies of the national anthem, military songs and many top 40 songs.

pcosmar
02-20-2011, 02:18 PM
Yea. As much as I think the Westboro people are assjackals, they have the Natural Right to Freedom of Speech. This smacks of censorship.


this is freedom of speech. And this is the natural response to stupid speech.
These fools should be derided ,denigrated and ostracized for their actions.
If speech and action is not socially acceptable, that unacceptability should be made clear. It should have consequence.
You are free to be stupid, and society if free to make you unwelcome.

Working Poor
02-20-2011, 02:29 PM
I liked the one about "what happens if Jesus comes when yo are on the toilet"!!

Pericles
02-20-2011, 02:39 PM
Yea. As much as I think the Westboro people are assjackals, they have the Natural Right to Freedom of Speech. This smacks of censorship.
There is a difference between publishing or stating my opinion when given the opportunity to do so, and yelling in your face while you are trying to go about your business.

Agorism
02-20-2011, 05:33 PM
I don't think they should compare it to Free Speech Rights. Of course they have a Right to do this stuff...

However, anyone can act like an a#$ at work or wherever, and there will always be a backlash if people choose to do this. The issue is not whether they have a right to be dumb.

lynnf
02-20-2011, 07:37 PM
don't know why they are out for Westboro, seems like a waste of time.

but just because Westboro may have computers doesn't mean they are safe. they have a bank account and the bank has computers...... just sayin'

lynn

Slutter McGee
02-20-2011, 07:44 PM
Wow, the assholes at /B/ don't actually know what freedom of speach is? I am so surprised. God...what will we do without the support of millions of 15 year old porn addicts.

Slutter McGee

Nate-ForLiberty
02-20-2011, 07:46 PM
Wow, the assholes at /B/ don't actually know what freedom of speach is? I am so surprised. God...what will we do without the support of millions of 15 year old porn addicts.

Slutter McGee

Glad you know what you're talking about bro!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_35igJnloijA/SQFBmVqgtMI/AAAAAAAAEo8/SXqmtlGZgMc/s400/Palin+thumbs+up.jpg

Invi
02-20-2011, 07:52 PM
http://imgur.com/nh1kR
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/71567

From a friend on facebook.

From the 2nd link:
"According to Anonymous, Westboro Baptist Church was behind the Open Letter allegedly from Anonymous, and then added fuel to the flames with WBC's "Bring it" reply. Anonymous warns don't DDoS, it's a trap to collect IPs for suing."

Nate-ForLiberty
02-20-2011, 07:59 PM
http://imgur.com/nh1kR
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/71567

From a friend on facebook.

From the 2nd link:
"According to Anonymous, Westboro Baptist Church was behind the Open Letter allegedly from Anonymous, and then added fuel to the flames with WBC's "Bring it" reply. Anonymous warns don't DDoS, it's a trap to collect IPs for suing."

How would that even work? WBC would collect IPs of dumbasses on the fringe of Anonymous. These people can't even do a false flag properly.

Agorism
02-20-2011, 08:00 PM
I don't mind the idea of making fun of some religious groups. I think it's funny and productive.

However, the Mormons, Baptists do have the right to act this way.

Flash
02-20-2011, 08:01 PM
Not a very intelligent thing to do. Westboro Church members believe they're suppose to be persecuted. By persecuting them even more you'll just enforce their beliefs.

eOs
02-20-2011, 08:01 PM
If that really is their response..this is going to be epic

Agorism
02-20-2011, 08:05 PM
Not a very intelligent thing to do. Westboro Church members believe they're suppose to be persecuted. By persecuting them even more you'll just enforce their beliefs.

Not persecute. Just laugh at.

The protestors making a ruckes the conservative and mormon churches in California during prop19 etc was good protest.

ronpaulhawaii
02-20-2011, 08:30 PM
Anonymous Copycats?

Mind Boggling...

magoo7042
02-20-2011, 08:34 PM
anon isnt taking the bait http://anonnews.org/index.php?p=press&a=item&i=494&hotlink=true

Nate-ForLiberty
02-20-2011, 08:38 PM
anon isnt taking the bait http://anonnews.org/index.php?p=press&a=item&i=494&hotlink=true

ha!

QueenB4Liberty
02-20-2011, 08:39 PM
I doubt they'll actually sue anyone for DDoSing.

reduen
02-20-2011, 08:57 PM
anonymous vs the illuminati

Yeah I agree. Why don't they go after someone who really is a menace to liberty? It seems that they go around bragging about how powerful that they are and how they are defenders of righteousness and liberty, yet they never go after the real problems in this world. Gee hope they do not hack me for dissing them a little....

magoo7042
02-20-2011, 09:10 PM
Yeah I agree. Why don't they go after someone who really is a menace to liberty? It seems that they go around bragging about how powerful that they are and how they are defenders of righteousness and liberty, yet they never go after the real problems in this world. Gee hope they do not hack me for dissing them a little....

anon has ADD. They set their sights on something like Scientology then when someone abuses a cat, they forget about what they were doing.

Slutter McGee
02-21-2011, 10:57 AM
Glad you know what you're talking about bro!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_35igJnloijA/SQFBmVqgtMI/AAAAAAAAEo8/SXqmtlGZgMc/s400/Palin+thumbs+up.jpg

Fine. You are right. 4Chan is the best place on the internet.

Slutter McGee

pcosmar
02-21-2011, 11:04 AM
anon has ADD. They set their sights on something like Scientology then when someone abuses a cat, they forget about what they were doing.

:rolleyes:

You do realize that this could be construed as "Insulting Forum Members".

Anonymous is here, and nearly everywhere else on the web. ;)

:cool:

magoo7042
02-21-2011, 11:07 AM
:rolleyes:

You do realize that this could be construed as "Insulting Forum Members".

Anonymous is here, and nearly everywhere else on the web. ;)

:cool:

that is true. we are all anonymous, and I am not in the mood for 1000's of pizzas tonight so my sincerest apologies ;)

Freedom 4 all
02-21-2011, 12:30 PM
LOL. If they don't have computers than really they got nothing to fear.

Dude, it's 2011. If Ted Kozynski was around today even he would have a computer.

dannno
02-21-2011, 12:36 PM
Fine. You are right. 4Chan is the best place on the internet.

Slutter McGee

That isn't the point, the point is you attacked them for being against freedom of speech when the (fake) letter never insinuated that they were, and secondly, if you read post #22 you will see that the letter wasn't even written by them.

robmpreston
02-21-2011, 12:51 PM
Fine. You are right. 4Chan is the best place on the internet.

Slutter McGee

So free speech means that no matter what you say or do there should be no payback? If you go into the ghetto and call a random black guy a ****** do you think they're going to say "Do not harm him, his right to free speech entitles him to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants, without any sort of retribution" ?

Brooklyn Red Leg
02-21-2011, 01:12 PM
So free speech means that no matter what you say or do there should be no payback?

With force? No, that is immoral. No matter what someone says to you, it is still immoral to INITIATE force.


If you go into the ghetto and call a random black guy a ****** do you think they're going to say "Do not harm him, his right to free speech entitles him to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants, without any sort of retribution" ?

That's as dumb as saying 'Oh well, the cops beat the shit out of him because he refused to obey'.

benny215
02-21-2011, 01:13 PM
Remember back in the day when if it was a fair one-on-one, the fight would get broken up but no charges would ever get filed.

People like Westboro would have the right to talk but they would get tired of getting punched in the head all the time and quit their nonsense pretty quick.

I miss that.

robmpreston
02-21-2011, 01:27 PM
Uh, it's not even close to the same thing. The point is simple. Free speech should be respected but everyone is accountable for what they say and do, and sometimes that will bite you in the ass.


With force? No, that is immoral. No matter what someone says to you, it is still immoral to INITIATE force.



That's as dumb as saying 'Oh well, the cops beat the shit out of him because he refused to obey'.

RonPaulFanInGA
02-21-2011, 01:32 PM
So free speech means that no matter what you say or do there should be no payback? If you go into the ghetto and call a random black guy a ****** do you think they're going to say "Do not harm him, his right to free speech entitles him to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants, without any sort of retribution" ?

There is a right to free speech. There is no right to feel comfortable. If you don't like what someone is saying then leave.

pcosmar
02-21-2011, 01:43 PM
There is a right to free speech. There is no right to feel comfortable. If you don't like what someone is saying then leave.

So you are saying that the families and friends of the dead should just leave the funeral when these assholes show up?
:confused:

I personally believe that they should be beaten, and made thoroughly unwelcome, by those they are offending. In addition businesses in the area should refuse service and decent people should voluntarily shun them.

I personally do not know any Christians that support them. Most are embarrassed by them using Christ in their antics.

TonySutton
02-21-2011, 02:03 PM
If there was not so much public property WBC would be very easy to shut down.

robmpreston
02-21-2011, 04:33 PM
There is a right to free speech. There is no right to feel comfortable. If you don't like what someone is saying then leave.

Clearly you are missing a very simple point. I'm sorry your brain is too small to grasp something so easy to understand.

robmpreston
02-21-2011, 04:34 PM
So you are saying that the families and friends of the dead should just leave the funeral when these assholes show up?
:confused:

I personally believe that they should be beaten, and made thoroughly unwelcome, by those they are offending. In addition businesses in the area should refuse service and decent people should voluntarily shun them.

I personally do not know any Christians that support them. Most are embarrassed by them using Christ in their antics.

Bingo.

Brooklyn Red Leg
02-21-2011, 06:35 PM
Uh, it's not even close to the same thing. The point is simple. Free speech should be respected but everyone is accountable for what they say and do, and sometimes that will bite you in the ass.

:rolleyes:

I don't give a shit what someone says to you. That is not carte blanche to initiate force against them. Ignore them, ostracize them, counter-protest them but do NOT initiate force against them.

wizardwatson
02-22-2011, 09:11 AM
http://imgur.com/nh1kR
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/71567

From a friend on facebook.

From the 2nd link:
"According to Anonymous, Westboro Baptist Church was behind the Open Letter allegedly from Anonymous, and then added fuel to the flames with WBC's "Bring it" reply. Anonymous warns don't DDoS, it's a trap to collect IPs for suing."


Not a very intelligent thing to do. Westboro Church members believe they're suppose to be persecuted. By persecuting them even more you'll just enforce their beliefs.


If that really is their response..this is going to be epic

Here's the full response from WBC from their sparenot blog:


To sum up our thoughts on this:
BRING IT!
God opens the doors of utterance & no man can shut them (Col. 4:3; Rev. 3:7). His Word will run & have free course (2 Th. 3:1). Translated: The only reason the Internet exists is for Westboro Baptist Church to tell this nation & this world that your destruction draws nigh. You all will shut your mouth, confess He is God, mourn for your sins, repent, & obey — or you have no hope! No weapon formed against us will prosper (Isa. 54:17).

Nothing will shut up these words – ever.

A puddle of pimple-faced nerds organized under the cowardly banner of “Anonymous” claim they plan to hack Westboro’s Websites, including xxx . GodHatesFags . com & xxx . GodHatesTheMedia . com, because they hate Westboro’s Bible preachments. They mistakenly suppose because of pseudo-success with ruined-and-doomed-USA’s government or financial Websites that they can take on the servants of the Living God.

Bad miscalculation, girls!

Let us tell you how this will go: rebels will build a full head of steam based on false hope; the media will predictably do much breathless anticipating while giving another tsunami of coverage to Westboro’s message; God will defeat your council; your efforts will fail.
Anonymous is warring with God; very stupid for little boys claiming to be so smart.

All your draconian blather changes nothing. God will use you for His praise, & the rest of your wrath He will restrain (Ps. 76:10). Foppish “hackers” – like all humans – must obey God. Obey or perish.

GOD HATES **** & LOUSY “HACKERS!”

This is standard fare for WBC. They are always typing up cocky responses. I have to admit I chuckle every time I see a post like this from them.

Here's the graphic they made for the post, might have meaning to those here.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_RMHL0hLrIYs/TWPSTK7QH9I/AAAAAAAABKg/hI61JP6JTyc/s800/245184489_GodsView.jpg

Freedom 4 all
02-22-2011, 09:49 AM
"The only reason the Internet exists is for Westboro Baptist Church to tell this nation & this world that your destruction draws nigh."

Seriously, the ONLY reason THE INTERNET exists is for this guy? Wow, Narcissistic personality disorder much?

TonySutton
02-22-2011, 09:53 AM
Anon should hack the Scientologists again and use their servers to DDoS WBC :P

robmpreston
02-22-2011, 10:15 AM
:rolleyes:

I don't give a shit what someone says to you. That is not carte blanche to initiate force against them. Ignore them, ostracize them, counter-protest them but do NOT initiate force against them.

:rolleyes:

Once again, the point is simple.

Everyone has a right to free speech. However, everyone also can expect to be responsible for actions taken as a result of that free speech.

I'm glad that you're such a wonderful person that you would never retaliate against another person no matter what they did to you, but most of us are not built that way. I'm guessing you aren't either, but you'll pretend to be on the internet.

Slutter McGee
02-23-2011, 11:30 AM
So free speech means that no matter what you say or do there should be no payback? If you go into the ghetto and call a random black guy a ****** do you think they're going to say "Do not harm him, his right to free speech entitles him to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants, without any sort of retribution"

Natural consequences to actions is something we accept. But there is no right to harm someone for violence against speech we don't like. And it is not right to take steps to stifle somebodies right to free speech, other than outshouting them.

I hate the Westboro people, but that doesn't mean that I am justified in using force against them.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Stary Hickory
02-23-2011, 11:35 AM
Yeah lets start attacking anyone who proposes an opinion or view we don't like. Lets hack their bank accounts and ruin their lives!

Whatever you think of this Church, it is wrong to do this because you disagree with their views. Honestly this is the first time I have heard of this Church. If they are simply promoting a view, using free speech and peaceful means, they ought to be left alone.

scottditzen
02-23-2011, 12:13 PM
This church* protested my neighborhood in Brooklyn NY (large Jewish pop) and sadly, just like when the circus comes to town, there were tons of onlookers and media giving these clowns just what they came for...attention.

Stary Hickory
02-23-2011, 12:15 PM
^ I am enjoying the spelling errors. They may even have spell check, but it doesn't always help!

K what spelling errors and tis is probably one the most cliche and meaningless types of posts you can make...well done....you sir add absolutely nothing to this thread.

scottditzen
02-23-2011, 12:20 PM
K what spelling errors and tis is probably one the most cliche and meaningless types of posts you can make...well done....you sir add absolutely nothing to this thread.

Was reading an older "press release" on reddit.

Deleted to avoid confusion...carry on.

p.s. for the record, when someone cannot spell it reflects poorly on their ejucation.

pcosmar
02-23-2011, 12:20 PM
K what spelling errors and tis is probably one the most cliche and meaningless types of posts you can make...well done....you sir add absolutely nothing to this thread.

As do many of the posts, considering that Anonymous did NOT threaten WBC.
And WBC created this story. The thread title is incorrect.


anon isnt taking the bait http://anonnews.org/index.php?p=press&a=item&i=494&hotlink=true
But don't let the facts get in the way of argument.

Stary Hickory
02-23-2011, 12:24 PM
As do many of the posts, considering that Anonymous did NOT threaten WBC.
And WBC created this story. The thread title is incorrect.

But don't let the facts get in the way of argument.

Well put that forth, I am ignoring no facts, I am responding to the thread. Information is put forth and people respond to it, if the title is misleading then have a mod fix that. Or else....I am going out on a HUUUGE limb here....people might believe the OP and respond in turn.

pcosmar
02-23-2011, 12:28 PM
Well put that forth, I am ignoring no facts, I am responding to the thread. Information is put forth and people respond to it, if the title is misleading then have a mod fix that. Or else....I am going out on a HUUUGE limb here....people might believe the OP and respond in turn.

The correct information was presented in the thread. (but likely ignored, in favor of argument)
Here it is.
Full sized for easy reading


Dear Phred Phelps and WBC Phriends,
So we've been hearing a lot about some letter that we supposedly sent you this morning. Problem is,
we're a bit groggy and don't remember sending it. Our best guess is that you heard about us on that
newfangled TV of yours and thought we might be some good money for your little church.
You thought you could play with Anonymous. You observed our rising notoriety and thought you
would exploit our paradigm for your own gain. And then, you thought you could lure some idiots into a
honeypot for more IPs to sue.
This is not so foreign to us; as you may have heard, we trade in Lulz. You just do not have enough to
offer right now.
While Anonymous thanks you for your interest, and would certainly like to take a break and have some
fun with you guys, we have more pressing matters to deal with at the moment.
But, we will keep this application on file, and will certainly contact you if any openings become
available in future.
Next time, don't call us. We'll call you.
Additionally, as your "Press Release" failed to understand: When Anonymous says we support free
speech, we mean it. We count Beatrice Hall among our Anonymous forebears: "I disapprove of what
you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Do some among our number hate you and your cynical exploitation of your human rights for monetary
gain? Of course. But the MoralFags are also the first to admit that they are, in fact, your rights to
exploit.
In closing, let us assure you: We are not BAWWWING sissies, nor are we afraid of your false god;
we're just really busy. Stay tuned, and we'll come back to play another day.
We promise.
To the Media: Just because it was posted on AnonNews doesn't mean every single Anon is in
agreement, in fact in this case it doesn't even mean a single Anon is in agreement. Next time, if you
could give us a few minutes to put all our paperwork in order, we'll be sure to let you know what we're
up to. (LOL)
To Anonymous: It's a trap. They've got their ports wide open to harvest IPs to sue. Don't DDoS, and
boycott Operation Westboro. If you really want to continue messing with them, just send them a few
male prostitutes and faxes of goatse. Nothing more.
(Note: This letter was written by more than 20 Anons, at the same time, and none of them were inbred
family members. Unlike that other, shitty "Press Release".)
We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.

scottditzen
02-23-2011, 12:31 PM
I'm thinking that if Anonymous seriously set out to shut down WBC they would've done so.

Stary, this group in not really a Church at all, but a family of lawyers who take advantage of free speech and are a menace.

Stary Hickory
02-23-2011, 12:31 PM
The correct information was presented in the thread. (but likely ignored, in favor of argument)
Here it is.
Full sized for easy reading

http://anonnews.org/uploads/909803499_Untitled.jpg?do-not-hotlink,-hotlinking-attempts-will-be-blocked,-point-to-the-press-release-instead


Ok if you are accusing me of purposely ignoring information for what purpose? Then you just dropped a few pegs on my respect meter. Really is it so hard to stay on topic and respond with facts and info rather than go for personal attacks....is this all you have? First we get the all to common "You cant' Spellz LOLz" and then some ridiculous claim that a poster is ignoring information....rather than responding to the thread and the OP which is incorrect (as you claim).


Really...this is sad.

pcosmar
02-23-2011, 12:37 PM
Ok if you are accusing me of purposely ignoring information for what purpose? Then you just dropped a few pegs on my respect meter. Really is it so hard to stay on topic and respond with facts and info rather than go for personal attacks....is this all you have? First we get the all to common "You cant' Spellz LOLz" and then some ridiculous claim that a poster is ignoring information....rather than responding to the thread and the OP which is incorrect (as you claim).

Really...this is sad.
What part of Anonymous DID NOT THREATEN WBC, don't you understand?

WBC created this alleged threat for their own twisted purpose.

Anonymous supports Freedom of Speech. Unconditionally. (the very point of being anonymous)

Stary Hickory
02-23-2011, 12:38 PM
I'm thinking that if Anonymous seriously set out to shut down WBC they would've done so.

Stary, this group in not really a Church at all, but a family of lawyers who take advantage of free speech and are a menace.

Ah, yeah then I have maybe heard about them then. I remember something about them from a long time ago. This Anon group is on the edge. I like the idea of V for Vendetta and stuff like that, but say a group like ANON started going after people for simply speaking their mind then I would be more than a little alarmed. So far ANON has not really concerned me, I hope they do not cross a line and become exactly what people should e fighting against. That would be pretty sad.

Stary Hickory
02-23-2011, 12:43 PM
What part of Anonymous DID NOT THREATEN WBC, don't you understand?

WBC created this alleged threat for their own twisted purpose.

Anonymous supports Freedom of Speech. Unconditionally. (the very point of being anonymous)

What is your deal? It is getting annoying.

This is the title : Anonymous Puts Westboro Baptist Church On Notice



And th quote:
"Your demonstrations and your unrelenting cascade of disparaging slurs, unfounded judgments, and prejudicial innuendos, which apparently apply to every individual numbered amongst the race of Man - except for yourselves - has frequently crossed the line which separates Freedom of Speech from deliberately utilizing the same tactics and methods of intimidation and mental & emotional abuse that have been previously exploited and employed by tyrants and dictators, fascists and terrorist organizations throughout history.

ANONYMOUS cannot abide this behavior any longer."


Honestly you are tiring me, what part of the above can you not understand? I swear like I said the respecto meter is really tanking right now. Get a grip. And start making sense, and please keep your crazy accusations to yourself. What kind of person really sits there and acts this way? I don't car how far up anons rear you think you are it is no excuse to act in this manner.

pcosmar
02-23-2011, 12:53 PM
What is your deal? It is getting annoying.

This is the title : Anonymous Puts Westboro Baptist Church On Notice



And th quote:
"Your demonstrations and your unrelenting cascade of disparaging slurs, unfounded judgments, and prejudicial innuendos, which apparently apply to every individual numbered amongst the race of Man - except for yourselves - has frequently crossed the line which separates Freedom of Speech from deliberately utilizing the same tactics and methods of intimidation and mental & emotional abuse that have been previously exploited and employed by tyrants and dictators, fascists and terrorist organizations throughout history.

ANONYMOUS cannot abide this behavior any longer."


Honestly you are tiring me, what part of the above can you not understand? I swear like I said the respecto meter is really tanking right now. Get a grip. And start making sense, and please keep your crazy accusations to yourself. What kind of person really sits there and acts this way? I don't car how far up anons rear you think you are it is no excuse to act in this manner.

My point is, What you quoted,

And th quote:
"Your demonstrations and your unrelenting cascade of disparaging slurs, unfounded judgments, and prejudicial innuendos, which apparently apply to every individual numbered amongst the race of Man - except for yourselves - has frequently crossed the line which separates Freedom of Speech from deliberately utilizing the same tactics and methods of intimidation and mental & emotional abuse that have been previously exploited and employed by tyrants and dictators, fascists and terrorist organizations throughout history.

ANONYMOUS cannot abide this behavior any longer."
Was not written by Anonymous. It is contrary to their stated positions. It is a fabrication by the WBC for their own purpose.

anonymous did respond to this slur with a press release. (posted several times)

And yet the thread goes on and on about how anonymous is attacking freedom of speech. They are not.
The WBC is attention seeking, (as is their habit) And fabricated this story.

I am not attacking you, (the initial quote was in regards to spelling errors) as I am this thread and the arguments. Based on a false accusation.

sharpsteve2003
02-25-2011, 03:54 AM
Anonymous Hacks Westboro Baptist Church Website During Live Confrontation
A source from Anonymous confronts Shirley Phelps-Roper from the Westboro Baptist Church, calling the supposed letter sent to Westboro by Anonymous a hoax, and then proceeds to hack the Westboro Baptist Church website during the interview.

Website screenshot before being removed by Westboro: http://img19.imageshack.us/i/anonymouswestborotakedo.jpg/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJwSjor4hM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJwSjor4hM

Brooklyn Red Leg
02-25-2011, 01:28 PM
Once again, the point is simple.

Yes, it is. Do not INITIATE force against someone else....


Everyone has a right to free speech. However, everyone also can expect to be responsible for actions taken as a result of that free speech.

Which I have not disagreed with....if you bothered to actually understand what it is I wrote...


I'm glad that you're such a wonderful person that you would never retaliate against another person no matter what they did to you, but most of us are not built that way. I'm guessing you aren't either, but you'll pretend to be on the internet.

If someone initiates force against me, I am morally in the right to retaliate. Do not confuse the NAP with Pacifism as they are different concepts entirely. However, if someone calls you can asshole, its immoral to beat the shit out of them. Get away from them, call them an asshole back. People say shit all the time I disagree with and when they do so repeatedly I do things like put them on my ignore list or engage in counter-trolling for the hell of it.

pcosmar
02-25-2011, 02:05 PM
Anonymous Hacks Westboro Baptist Church Website During Live Confrontation

Incorrect.
The Hacker known as "Jester" hit WBC sites.
"Jester" is not Anon. it is a neo-con hacker.
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2274974/jester-wikileaks-westboro-anti
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/24/jester_westboro_baptists_anon_silliness/
I suspect a govt sponsored cracker as well. Gives honest hackers a bad name.
;)

Vessol
02-25-2011, 02:08 PM
I remember the good ol' days when Anonymous was targeting murderers and thieves.

And hacking forums created for those with Epilepsy and adding thousands of images that induce epileptic seizures. They apparently triggered numerous users to have seizures.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/anonymous-attack-targets-epilepsy-sufferers/story-e6frfro0-1111115935811

There's nothing positive or negative about Anonymous. It's a bunch of fucking kids using brute force tools to pull down websites. That's all it fucking is, the scriptkiddies download programs and the few actually knowledgeable people then use those programs to use the computers in strong DDOS attacks.

ronpaulhawaii
03-05-2011, 11:39 AM
And hacking forums created for those with Epilepsy and adding thousands of images that induce epileptic seizures. They apparently triggered numerous users to have seizures.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/anonymous-attack-targets-epilepsy-sufferers/story-e6frfro0-1111115935811

There's nothing positive or negative about Anonymous. It's a bunch of fucking kids using brute force tools to pull down websites. That's all it fucking is, the scriptkiddies download programs and the few actually knowledgeable people then use those programs to use the computers in strong DDOS attacks.

How do you deduce it is Anon from that article? (emp added)


"I'm pretty sure I saw a thread about this while browsing ebaumsworld, so yeah, it was probably those f-----s," said another.

Others blamed members of a third website, 7chan.org. Epilepsy Foundation users said members of that website had planned the attack in advance and since deleted the evidence, Wired reported.

In turn, the administrators of 7chan.org posted an open letter claiming that the attack had been carried out by Scientologists seeking to discredit Anonymous.

doodle
03-05-2011, 11:45 AM
Wasn't this news reported to be a hoax?

They tend to be for more freedom of speech and constitutional liberties and not against it.

sharpsteve2003
03-06-2011, 11:00 AM
Incorrect.
The Hacker known as "Jester" hit WBC sites.
"Jester" is not Anon. it is a neo-con hacker.
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2274974/jester-wikileaks-westboro-anti
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/24/jester_westboro_baptists_anon_silliness/
I suspect a govt sponsored cracker as well. Gives honest hackers a bad name.
;)

Did you watch the video? No they did not hack WBC the first time, but they did live during the interview in the video. Did you watch the video?

pcosmar
03-06-2011, 11:11 AM
Did you watch the video? No they did not hack WBC the first time, but they did live during the interview in the video. Did you watch the video?

Yes I did, And the attacks in that video came from "Jester".
As the links I posted said.

"Jester" is not Anonymous. Many Crackers out there are not anon.

some of us here are.
I am known, and therefor not anonymous. But I have visited them in their realm, and have collaborated with them (anonymously of course)
;)

One Last Battle!
03-06-2011, 11:37 AM
Did you watch the video? No they did not hack WBC the first time, but they did live during the interview in the video. Did you watch the video?

Jester did that. Hell, he went onto the anonops IRC to brag about it as I recall. I think he ended up getting z-lined, actually. But yeah, anonymous didn't do it.

wizardwatson
03-15-2011, 11:45 AM
Incorrect.
The Hacker known as "Jester" hit WBC sites.
"Jester" is not Anon. it is a neo-con hacker.
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2274974/jester-wikileaks-westboro-anti
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/24/jester_westboro_baptists_anon_silliness/
I suspect a govt sponsored cracker as well. Gives honest hackers a bad name.
;)

Ok, this^ seems accurate...


What you quoted,

Was not written by Anonymous. It is contrary to their stated positions. It is a fabrication by the WBC for their own purpose.

anonymous did respond to this slur with a press release. (posted several times)

And yet the thread goes on and on about how anonymous is attacking freedom of speech. They are not.
The WBC is attention seeking, (as is their habit) And fabricated this story.

I am not attacking you, (the initial quote was in regards to spelling errors) as I am this thread and the arguments. Based on a false accusation.

But I still don't see how we know that WBC created the initial story. How exactly does "Anonymous" say they did or didn't post an anonymous message. How do we know the real "Anon" from the fake "Anon". And how do we know that "The Jester" didn't post the original letter.

Sure WBC is attention seeking, but all this certainty about WBC writing the original letter seems like hearsay, but I'd be glad to see a solid connection if one exists.

00_Pete
03-15-2011, 11:54 AM
CIA-controlled douchebags being the douchebags they usually are.

Besides, they are trolling the untrollable. WBC are THE masters of trolls and everyone knows that super-trolls are untrollable by nature.

PS - Sara Phelps is the hottest woman on Earth.

pcosmar
03-15-2011, 12:03 PM
But I still don't see how we know that WBC created the initial story. How exactly does "Anonymous" say they did or didn't post an anonymous message. How do we know the real "Anon" from the fake "Anon". And how do we know that "The Jester" didn't post the original letter.

Sure WBC is attention seeking, but all this certainty about WBC writing the original letter seems like hearsay, but I'd be glad to see a solid connection if one exists.

Ok. perhaps "certainty" is a bit much. Very likely, or "probably" is a better descriptor.

As far a real or fake anons. Anyone can be anonymous. but the online anonymous community has a history and when something like an attack on freedom of speech is blamed on them (contrary to their known position) it stands out.

WBC however has a history as well (involving petty litigation).

Given the known histories and Modus operandi, the conclusion is not a difficult one.