Can Any Confirm or Debunk This Video?

[Zatch]

Can Any Confirm or Debunk This Video? Tahrir Square Protesters Allegedly Chanting "To Jerusalem we are heading, Martyrs in the millions."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du5emnvGgvg

[KurtBoyer25L]

Damn. I thought this was a prog-music thread.

[FrankRep]

If true, I see WWIII from my house!

[TNforPaul45]

Blowback, baby. Blowback.

[RonPaulCult]

I can confirm that neo-cons will use this footage - true or not

[00_Pete]

The Illuminatus plan is on tracks and at full throttle :)

They are very good, i admire them, i despise them but i admire them.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

K why is that not happening here? Oh well I got some homework to do.

[FrankRep]

Albert Pike and the Three World Wars - Letter to Giuseppe Mazzini
(August 15, 1871)

http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm



"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJl7hO8bv9o

[00_Pete]

Albert Pike and the Three World Wars - Letter to Giuseppe Mazzini
(August 15, 1871)

http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm


"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJl7hO8bv9o

Yes and no. That is very significant but Pike (like Aleister Crowley and many others) were just charlatans and subverters and had a "higher power" telling them what to do. Israel is not to be destroyed but it was created to generate conflict, however there is a chance that something goes wrong and Israel is indeed destroyed but that is a chance they are willing to take.

But i repeat, what you posted is very significant but one must keep in mind that the likes of Pike were not the top of the hierarchy.

[Petar]

I hope that this video is false, and that these people aren't actually that stupid.

I believe in the existence of an Illuminati plan for Armageddon/NWO as much as anyone, but if these people actually ever try to invade Israel, then they will be destroyed, and they will have no one to blame but themselves.

[Travlyr]

The Illuminatus plan is on tracks and at full throttle :)

They are very good, i admire them, i despise them but i admire them.

They are very good, aren't they? I despise them too, yet they are experts in divide and conquer techniques. They have people fighting each other around the world while they calmly inflate the people's wealth away.

[pcosmar]

Can Any Confirm or Debunk This Video? Tahrir Square Protesters Allegedly Chanting "To Jerusalem we are heading, Martyrs in the millions."



PM ibaghdadi for a translation. But from what I saw from the YouTube site, and from what I saw watching the Egypt protests I think it is likely bullshit.

[anaconda]

Here is a different tube posting of the same footage. Note the comment that says the translation in the title for the above tube is incorrect. this person says the crowd is chanting "we destroyed the regime." It is important that we get the translation correct. So let's find someone who speaks the language.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENKn5lDtLvE&feature=related

[anaconda]

I wish Americans had the balls and integrity to gather around the White House or nation's capitol like this. How long do you think it would take the Congress to cut federal spending by 70% if we had a turnout like that? Maybe 48 hours max?

[anaconda]

How come my youtube links only show the URL and not a screenshot? Like on the old forum system?

[pcosmar]

How come my youtube links only show the URL and not a screenshot? Like on the old forum system?

You have to use the "insert video" icon.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/editor/video.png

It doesn't just do it automatically now.

[anaconda]

You have to use the "insert video" icon.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/editor/video.png

It doesn't just do it automatically now.

Thank you, sir.

[ibaghdadi]

PM ibaghdadi for a translation. But from what I saw from the YouTube site, and from what I saw watching the Egypt protests I think it is likely bullshit.

Confirmed, that's exactly what they're saying. I don't know why this should bother an America-firster, though. They're not chanting against the USA, after all.

The vast majority of Arab people see Israel as a settler colony created on stolen land with Western money & guns.

So lemme spell it out: We don't hate you for your freedom (in fact I love you all here at RPF), we can look forward for a long peaceful, and prosperous relationship with you once this nightmare is over. Israel, now that's is a totally different story.

Please don't equate love of freedom and democracy with "friendship" towards Israel.

[Zippyjuan]

I wish Americans had the balls and integrity to gather around the White House or nation's capitol like this. How long do you think it would take the Congress to cut federal spending by 70% if we had a turnout like that? Maybe 48 hours max?

If Congress were to actually cut spending by 70%, THAT would probably get that many people protesting. While people say they want cuts, they don't want cuts to whatever is THEIR own favorite program. 70% cuts would hit a lot of popular programs.

[juvanya]

This Egyptian guy I talk to says Israel is doomed once all the revolutions occur. I disagree strongly. It may be rough at first, but being surrounded by democracies will only benefit Israel in the long run.

That is a Muslim chant, however. "The Army of Mohammed is coming"

[pcosmar]

This Egyptian guy I talk to says Israel is doomed once all the revolutions occur. I disagree strongly. It may be rough at first, but being surrounded by democracies will only benefit Israel in the long run.

That is a Muslim chant, however. "The Army of Mohammed is coming"

Perhaps they should have dealt fairly and honestly with their neighbors. there would be less animosity.

[juvanya]

Perhaps they should have dealt fairly and honestly with their neighbors. there would be less animosity.

They tried for 90 years and continue to try. Its hard to deal fairly and honestly with violent people.

And how is Israel being unfair exactly...?

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4072/israelmuslimland.png

[pcosmar]

They tried for 90 years and continue to try. Its hard to deal fairly and honestly with violent people.

And how is Israel being unfair exactly...?

90 years ???
That must be some new fuzzy math I am unfamiliar with.
90 years ago Israel did not exist (as a state).
and how exactly? through terrorism. Theft, threats and murder. Displacing those that owned land. Attacking those that remained.
Using influence in the US to pressure and control other countries. etc.

[juvanya]

90 years ???
That must be some new fuzzy math I am unfamiliar with.
90 years ago Israel did not exist (as a state).
and how exactly? through terrorism. Theft, threats and murder. Displacing those that owned land. Attacking those that remained.
Using influence in the US to pressure and control other countries. etc.

90 years because that is when the modern conflict began. When xenophobic Arabs started rioting and attacking Jews.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1920_Palestine_riots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riots_in_Palestine_of_1929
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%931939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine

Even in the 30s, Jews had to get armored buses:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3217/havlagahbusduring193619.jpg

Even if you want to go with 1948, Israel did not cause that. The Arabs could have taken the other half of the land. Or they could have said "Lets come to the table and talk about better, serious borders." But no, they wanted all of the land. There was to be no negotiating with the Jews. There still is none today.

[pcosmar]

90 years because that is when the modern conflict began. When xenophobic Arabs started rioting and attacking Jews.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1920_Palestine_riots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riots_in_Palestine_of_1929
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%931939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine

Even in the 30s, Jews had to get armored buses:


That only shows that Zionist's were starting shit even earlier than I was aware. Even before Israel existed as a state.
Had they not insisted in offending the Arabs (Muslim and Christian), and coexisted peacefully instead, there would have been less tension.

[juvanya]

That only shows that Zionist's were starting shit even earlier than I was aware. Even before Israel existed as a state.
Had they not insisted in offending the Arabs (Muslim and Christian), and coexisted peacefully instead, there would have been less tension.

They were trying to coexist peacefully. That is my point.

If Israel/Zionists were trying to "start shit", you would never have even heard of Arabs or Palestinians. They would have been wiped out completely decades ago. Why are there 20% Arabs today if the Arabs were driven off the land? Did you know that Arabic is an official language of Israel? Israel is really bad at this whole genocide/ethnic cleansing/apartheid thing I guess.

[pcosmar]

They were trying to coexist peacefully. That is my point.


Wrong. Jews and Arabs lived peaceably together. Zionists are the problem.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/NKUSA.ORG_at_AIPAC_protest_2005.JPG/300px-NKUSA.ORG_at_AIPAC_protest_2005.JPG

[RyanRSheets]

I think it's foolish to try and determine who was the initial aggressor over there. This has been going on way, way longer than 90 years. What is undebatable is that we have stirred things up in the last several decades and our interventions are putting us at risk.

[ibaghdadi]

I think it's foolish to try and determine who was the initial aggressor over there. This has been going on way, way longer than 90 years.
That is patently wrong. There is not a single case of Palestinian riot against Jewish presence before 1917.

What happened in 1917? This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917):

His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object

When a superpower occupies your country and then promises to give it to others, and those others start arriving in large numbers, won't you resist? If China occupies Kentucky by force and within months promise that it will become a national homeland for American Muslims, and Muslims start arriving into Kentucky in large numbers, would you call the Kentucky patriots "xenophobic" and "terrorist" if they riot against this?

Before the turn of the century and for at least 500 years, Muslims/Jews/Christians lived in complete peace and almost the same percentages in Palestine (85% Muslim, 11% Christian, 4% Jewish).

To even suggest that "we can't figure out who started it" is not just factually wrong, it's morally degenerate.