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tangent4ronpaul
02-19-2011, 07:27 AM
http://iowaindependent.com/52513/bachmann-obama-push-to-promote-breastfeeding-part-of-hard-left-agenda

U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) lashed out at First Lady Michelle Obama on Tuesday over her promotion of breastfeeding, particularly among black women, to curb obesity. On Laura Ingraham’s radio show, Bachmann said that Obama’s campaign — and an IRS change that makes breast pumps tax deductible — constituted a “nanny state” and that it was part of her “hard left agenda.”
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Noob
02-19-2011, 07:35 AM
benefits of breastfeeding, over Baby Formula

http://www.bellybelly.com.au/articles/pregnancy/baby-formula

sratiug
02-19-2011, 07:36 AM
Bachman is dumb. Shut up. The government WIC program supplies obesity causing fructose infected crap to low income mothers.

Sola_Fide
02-19-2011, 07:45 AM
Meh.

Bachmann may not be too far off base. This regulation of lifestyles is a hard left agenda.

Pretty soon, the government is going to be monitoring our weight and imposing penalties. You know its coming...

VBRonPaulFan
02-19-2011, 07:50 AM
Breastfeeding is the most natural way to raise your baby. While i'm not in support of the government subsidizing certain ways of life, since they already do it to such a huge extent it's good when they actually do it in a way that promotes the health of a child. I'm glad they're making this cost deductible (taxpayers can keep a bit more of their stolen money). I'd be happy that they'd take it away if they got rid of the income tax or all the other deductions/credits/exemptions BS. I'd think most of you would support it just for the simple fact that it's a way for more people to keep more of their stolen money, anyways.

Bern
02-19-2011, 08:13 AM
Bachmann's rhetoric on this is completely retarded.

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-19-2011, 08:17 AM
Meh.

Bachmann may not be too far off base. This regulation of lifestyles is a hard left agenda.

Pretty soon, the government is going to be monitoring our weight and imposing penalties. You know its coming...

Like the right doesn't regulate lifestyle? Please. Left-Right are the same! Bachmann is a complete and total partisan hack and an authoritarian. No libertarian should support her. Work with her on issues where we converge? Sure, but support? HELL NO.

Sola_Fide
02-19-2011, 08:22 AM
Like the right doesn't regulate lifestyle? Please. Left-Right are the same! Bachmann is a complete and total partisan hack and an authoritarian. No libertarian should support her. Work with her on issues where we converge? Sure, but support? HELL NO.

LOL! I agree man!:collins: *ducks for cover*

She is definitely not consistent...but I don't think she is THAT off base with this one. Anytime she argues against the regulation of personal lifestyles, I will agree with her.

ItsTime
02-19-2011, 08:36 AM
How is this regulating lifestyle? Its a tax cut. Is Obama trying to make it mandatory to breastfeed?

Sola_Fide
02-19-2011, 08:40 AM
How is this regulating lifestyle? Its a tax cut. Is Obama trying to make it mandatory to breastfeed?

No. You are right. This is not a regulation (although it can be argued that using the tax code to influence behavior is indeed a regulation):)

00_Pete
02-19-2011, 08:43 AM
5 kids and brestfeed all of them...she is very womanly.

:) I like :)

Legend1104
02-19-2011, 10:17 AM
Yeah I think this should not be a point of contention. Even Ron Paul believes in tax breaks. I would much rather it be a tax break across the board for no particular reason, but we should take what we can get.

specsaregood
02-19-2011, 10:21 AM
Palin started this and it backfired now it appears Bachmann is trying to get in on it too. Ignore them both, it is the best method.

archangel689
02-19-2011, 10:29 AM
Ignore the dumb bitch. My mom sees these black kids in her office all the time and a lot of times their mom complains that the kid refuses to eat.... my mom looks at the child and finds he's overweight and tells the parents your kid isnt eating because you're feeding him too much. They just roll their eyes. Also something like 90% of black people use baby formula that has like soy and other crap in it the kid shouldn't be eating. Also she's found they're barely off formula and they're feeding the kid mcdonalds french fries.

AGRP
02-19-2011, 10:31 AM
Another obvious sign that she's bought and paid for.

Instead of discussing critical issues such as the Federal Reserve and the military-industrial complex, she's discussing tax-deductible breast pumps.

NYgs23
02-19-2011, 10:33 AM
Bachmann's not the crazy one here. The question should be why is Michelle Obama poking her nose into peoples' breastfeeding habits in the first place. And manipulating the tax code for social engineering purposes is statism; what you're really doing is taxing parents who choose to use formula.

That's why taxes should be flat and why the Constitution stipulates that, "all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." If that provision were actually obeyed it would prevent all such attempts at social engineering through the tax code.

Sola_Fide
02-19-2011, 10:37 AM
Bachmann's not the crazy one here. The question should be why is Michelle Obama poking her nose into peoples' breastfeeding habits in the first place. And manipulating the tax code for social engineering purposes is statism; what you're really doing is taxing parents who choose to use formula.

That's why taxes should be flat and why the Constitution stipulates that, "all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." If that provision were actually obeyed it would prevent all such attempts at social engineering through the tax code.

Yes, that was my thought too...

RyanRSheets
02-19-2011, 10:40 AM
Both sides of this argument are off base. Bachmann is a tool for making this out to be some outrageous, unheard of thing, when in reality it is more of a step in the right direction since it might take some people away from WIC and it will reduce taxes on a few. Obama is wrong for trying to shape society with selective theft.

down-under
02-19-2011, 10:44 AM
Bachmann's not the crazy one here. The question should be why is Michelle Obama poking her nose into peoples' breastfeeding habits in the first place. And manipulating the tax code for social engineering purposes is statism; what you're really doing is taxing parents who choose to use formula.

That's why taxes should be flat and why the Constitution stipulates that, "all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." If that provision were actually obeyed it would prevent all such attempts at social engineering through the tax code.

Taxes are the same but on business on the personal income tax regimes there are things that don't get taxed at all and can get deducted such as donations.


Tax deducting something is definitely not rising taxing on another item and in any case screaming "hard left" like Bachmann is doing for such a trivial thing when she does not give a toss about the bigger scheme of things show what she is, a low class demagogue.

sailingaway
02-19-2011, 10:45 AM
Well, the government shouldn't be involved, but MO has a right to her opinions on health issues. Still, Ron would vote for it, because it cuts taxes and he doesn't think those belong to the government, in any event.

Brooklyn Red Leg
02-19-2011, 10:53 AM
Fucking ignorant twat. I feel sorry for the people in her District.

freedoms-light
02-19-2011, 11:03 AM
Isn't Sunstein one of Obama's czars on regulations?
`libertarian paternalism' what an oxymoron.
Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness [Hardcover]


Thaler and Sunstein develop an argument that is political - and is bound to cause heated debate. What they argue is that, in the face of our decision-making weaknesses, Governments and Businesses can help "nudge" us in the right direction. The elephant in the room can be benign.

They call their viewpoint `libertarian paternalism' and what they argue is that it would be a good thing for some gentle nudging of the citizenry in the right direction. As Thaler said recently in the New York Times: "In light of human limitations, Cass Sunstein and I argue for policies that we call libertarian paternalism. Although the phrase sounds like an oxymoron, we contend that it is often possible to design policies, in both the public and private sector, that make people better off -- as judged by themselves -- without coercion. We oppose bans; instead, we favor nudges."


http://www.amazon.com/Nudge-Improving-Decisions-Health-Happiness/dp/0300122233




Bachmann's not the crazy one here. The question should be why is Michelle Obama poking her nose into peoples' breastfeeding habits in the first place. And manipulating the tax code for social engineering purposes is statism; what you're really doing is taxing parents who choose to use formula.

That's why taxes should be flat and why the Constitution stipulates that, "all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." If that provision were actually obeyed it would prevent all such attempts at social engineering through the tax code.

akforme
02-19-2011, 11:45 AM
Yeah I think this should not be a point of contention. Even Ron Paul believes in tax breaks. I would much rather it be a tax break across the board for no particular reason, but we should take what we can get.

The problem is these types of tax cuts promote corporatism. This is more about an industry lobbying a government incentive then helping the people. Mama Obama just found a way to get paid to give the illusion of helping.

They basically take our money and then get payed off so they can bribe us with our own money.

Working Poor
02-19-2011, 11:49 AM
I do think more moms and babies would be healthier from breast feeding. Sometimes it might be best to know when to shut up.

specsaregood
02-19-2011, 11:58 AM
The problem is these types of tax cuts promote corporatism. This is more about an industry lobbying a government incentive then helping the people. Mama Obama just found a way to get paid to give the illusion of helping.

They basically take our money and then get payed off so they can bribe us with our own money.

You think the few companies that make breast feeding products are more powerful than the huge corporations making formula? I sorta doubt it.

Also, I'd venture that if a "conservative" said what Mrs. Obama said, the family values crowd would be in support.

juvanya
02-19-2011, 12:06 PM
Im just worried the effect vill backfire from spiteful people.

Sola_Fide
02-19-2011, 12:10 PM
I do think more moms and babies would be healthier from breast feeding. Sometimes it might be best to know when to shut up.

It would be healthier if no one ate McRib sandwiches. Should people be penalized directly by the tax code for doing so?

Anti Federalist
02-19-2011, 12:15 PM
Another obvious sign that she's bought and paid for.

Instead of discussing critical issues such as the Federal Reserve and the military-industrial complex, she's discussing tax-deductible breast pumps.

That ^^^

Instead of ranting and raving about what Michelle Obama is doing (and regardless of all the smoke and hype, breast feeding is best, by far) maybe she should have been voting "NO" on PATRIOT Act extensions, if she was really serious about getting government out of people's lives.

down-under
02-19-2011, 12:56 PM
It would be healthier if no one ate McRib sandwiches. Should people be penalized directly by the tax code for doing so?

Deducting pumps is not penalizing formula users.

Anyhow, the fact that she is making a fight about such a petty issue shows her true colors a lot..

I wonder if Palin and Bachmann got contributions from Nestle...

akforme
02-19-2011, 01:21 PM
You think the few companies that make breast feeding products are more powerful than the huge corporations making formula? I sorta doubt it.

Also, I'd venture that if a "conservative" said what Mrs. Obama said, the family values crowd would be in support.

What do you think WIC promotes? My grocery had to stop it because of all the formulas they forced him to buy that nobody ever bought.

I would support Obama's right to do it if she did it with her own money, or didn't use her power to promote one industry over the other with money that's not hers. If she used the right she does have, the 1st and spoke out about it then all the power to her.

Brian4Liberty
02-19-2011, 01:58 PM
This whole thing is being taken out of context. Read the story. Bachmann fully supports breast-feeding. She is not against it. She is just against the government sticking it's nose into the issue one way or another.

sluggo
02-19-2011, 02:02 PM
Tell Bachmann mandatory breast feeding is in the Patriot Act. She'll change her tune.

Brian4Liberty
02-19-2011, 02:03 PM
Another obvious sign that she's bought and paid for.

Instead of discussing critical issues such as the Federal Reserve and the military-industrial complex, she's discussing tax-deductible breast pumps.

This is the mainstream media. They bring up the subjects. They edit, spin, emphasize and hype. People are people. They will discuss and debate almost anything.

Anti Federalist
02-19-2011, 02:25 PM
Tell Bachmann mandatory breast feeding is in the Patriot Act. She'll change her tune.

LoL ^^^ That

00_Pete
02-19-2011, 03:18 PM
Deducting pumps is not penalizing formula users.

Anyhow, the fact that she is making a fight about such a petty issue shows her true colors a lot..

I wonder if Palin and Bachmann got contributions from Nestle...

Palin got one of the Bush´s going on Larry King, order Larry King (one of the many corrupt bastards in the media) to ask her about Palin and giving a pre-fabricated answer, advising her to stay in Alaska...i dont see Ron Paul getting the same treatment.

Dont worry about Palin she is the Master of herself (and this is exactly why the Aristocracy is afraid of her).

eduardo89
02-19-2011, 03:20 PM
I thought the right was all for breastfeeding since it's traditional...?

amy31416
02-19-2011, 03:23 PM
I thought the right was all for breastfeeding since it's traditional...?

Not when a leftist promotes it. If it'd been Laura Bush, Bachmann would be cheering on the effort.