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lastnymleft
10-23-2007, 09:05 AM
There's a vote over at http://www.1190kex.com/pages/pages/straw_poll.php and it's not going well at all for Dr Paul. In fact, it's going very badly.

It's not your regular online, 1 day poll. It runs for 8 weeks, with one candidate being eliminated each week. It's round 4, and Dr. Paul is in 5th place, looking like he will be eliminated in this round.

The tragedy of him being eliminated at this point is that he will miss up to four weeks of FREE radio airtime, being discussed with the other top tier candidates. That air-time is very valuable, so it would be very unfortunate if he were to miss out.

I don't know what their game is, but there's two "Vote again" buttons on the page, allowing multiple votes. A refresh does the same.

One (or several) supporters of other candidates have obviously automated the process, and have been absolutely hammering the vote. At this point, I suspect there are so many votes cast that each vote either barely registers, or may only bump the vote by 0.01%. By the end of this week, it looks like there'll be more votes in that poll than there are voters in the US!

Right now, they seem to have ganged up on Dr. Paul. His support is actually going BACKWARDS.

Dr. Paul needs help! Ordinarily, a small radio straw poll wouldn't matter much, but there are tangible rewards if he keeps in this run-off. Remember that $430,000 that was raised for radio airtime recently? That's the sort of dollars that this poll could be worth to the campaign. Well, a good chunk thereof. Please hop over there and help out.

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 09:07 AM
It doesn't look like there is any single voting blocks on this, just click back and then click vote again.

qwerty
10-23-2007, 09:07 AM
Voted!

kylejack
10-23-2007, 09:08 AM
We do not lose online polls! Move it people, MOVE IT!

KewlRonduderules
10-23-2007, 09:08 AM
it's been the same percentage for over a week. This poll is rigged!!!

Ozwest
10-23-2007, 09:08 AM
Done.

kimosabi
10-23-2007, 09:08 AM
It's wierd how you can vote again and again, but anyway...

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 09:08 AM
it's been the same percentage for over a week. This poll is rigged!!!

I am seeing it move up by 1/10th after several votes. It just has a lot of activity so it will take a lot of votes to change the results.

uncloned21
10-23-2007, 09:09 AM
If I had a peanut butter and cheddar sandwich, I might consider voting.

ghemminger
10-23-2007, 09:11 AM
This poll looks like some rigging is taking place...can someone write a code or something to counteract it?

RobS
10-23-2007, 09:11 AM
Well, I've been "voting" for about 5 minutes now, every time I cast a vote he moves up .01 percent. So if we could get 20-30 people doing that for an hour or so, I think we could move up quite easily.

qwerty
10-23-2007, 09:12 AM
COME ON PEOPLE!

:cool:

Phenom24
10-23-2007, 09:12 AM
that's just messed up. So really, whoever wins in a poll with a "Vote again" link, is the best at repeatedly spamming? And people don't see that?

What kind of lame poll is that, anyway?

(mumbles "vote again"....)

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 09:14 AM
It is up to 5.58.. it shouldn't take long to move it up quickly.. Hit it hard and post this to your meetup forums.

mavtek
10-23-2007, 09:14 AM
keep voting! We're way behind how did we not find out about this??

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 09:15 AM
5.7..

qwerty
10-23-2007, 09:15 AM
5.71

Dustancostine
10-23-2007, 09:17 AM
I voted once, but that is all.

Stealth4
10-23-2007, 09:17 AM
voted - lets keep this at the top of the forum all day.

takes 1.5 minutes - lets do this!

mavtek
10-23-2007, 09:17 AM
email it to your meetups! I just did!

qwerty
10-23-2007, 09:17 AM
6.00

vauge
10-23-2007, 09:18 AM
"Vote as often as you’d like for any candidate..."

We are up to 6% now. lol

lasenorita
10-23-2007, 09:18 AM
Wha?! You're allowed to vote multiple times? Anyways, my 0.01% still counts, right? :p

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 09:19 AM
6.18

mtmedlin
10-23-2007, 09:19 AM
In two minutes I voted 32 times and got him over 6%, it really wouldnt take much if we wanted to win.

VoteRonPaul2008
10-23-2007, 09:20 AM
OK I just pushed him up to 6.13% but he is still lacking, come on Paul supporters, he needs the radio time.. PLEASE GO AND VOTE AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN NOW!!

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 09:21 AM
I love it when you don't have to go through the whole rolling IP, swapping browsers, clearing cookies routine for polls. It makes life a lot easier.

CodeMonkey
10-23-2007, 09:21 AM
Looks like it would be really easy to write a script to jack up the votes... :p

LibertyEagle
10-23-2007, 09:21 AM
It doesn't look like there is any single voting blocks on this, just click back and then click vote again.

There is a "Vote Again" hot spot in the lower left hand side of the screen. There is no reason to click back.

LibertyEagle
10-23-2007, 09:22 AM
OK I just pushed him up to 6.13% but he is still lacking, come on Paul supporters, he needs the radio time.. PLEASE GO AND VOTE AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN NOW!!

You didn't do it by yourself. I've been voting non-stop. I am sure others have been too.

kimosabi
10-23-2007, 09:24 AM
6.77%

ghemminger
10-23-2007, 09:24 AM
NICE JOB RP supporters - I know this is kind of lame - but the effort to up this poll is very simialr to teffort it takes to get off your butt and vote - so in wierd sense I see parrallels - we are motivated and that is IMPORTANT! have FUN!

sedele
10-23-2007, 09:26 AM
7.04%!

I'm keeping this poll minimized all day.

CAKochenash
10-23-2007, 09:28 AM
We can do this...Its really growing now...

LibertyEagle
10-23-2007, 09:28 AM
Looks like it would be really easy to write a script to jack up the votes... :p

Go for it. They said they invited multiple votes, so let's use our skill to do it.

LibertyOfOne
10-23-2007, 09:29 AM
:o

CAKochenash
10-23-2007, 09:30 AM
Charge!!!!!

LibertyOfOne
10-23-2007, 09:30 AM
http://www.americansys.com/ezmacros.htm

lasenorita
10-23-2007, 09:30 AM
I don't know if it's being rigged, but I think the ability to vote multiple times is a big factor.

Oh, and it seems they're using some sort of Ajax poll.

Mark
10-23-2007, 09:30 AM
.

I just bulletined on MySpace to hopefully get more help..

I said.. about the free airtime and to...

VOTE EARLY AND OFTEN.. that it's ALLOWED..

hopeforamerica
10-23-2007, 09:30 AM
LOL. I wish I could vote for Ron Paul this many times in real life!

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 09:31 AM
Time to break out the macros
Just do a search for macros on the web. If you have another computer that is not in use you can get it up to vote for you. It will record your mouse movements and do it over and over again.

I save the macros for the really important ones, but if you want to use them, download a trial of this software:
http://www.mjtnet.com/webrecorder.htm

It will record IE macros and you can just schedule it and let it run. You don't need to even be at your computer.

NinjaPirate
10-23-2007, 09:32 AM
8.65%

kimosabi
10-23-2007, 09:33 AM
From their home page:



The KEX Presidential Straw Poll is unscientific, unofficial and designed for entertainment purposes. Vote as often as you’d like for any candidate and HAVE FUN!

werdd
10-23-2007, 09:34 AM
they just want web hits from us lol

A Ron Paul Rebel
10-23-2007, 09:37 AM
Dr. Paul over 10%
F. Thomps... almost under 30%

Ninja Homer
10-23-2007, 09:38 AM
11%, almost overtaken Tancredo!

NinjaPirate
10-23-2007, 09:40 AM
this is the dumbest voting poll i've evar seen

scbissler
10-23-2007, 09:41 AM
Just overtook Tancredo!

MGreen
10-23-2007, 09:42 AM
Well we're above Tancredo.

Mark
10-23-2007, 09:43 AM
this is the dumbest voting poll i've evar seen


We're trying to get the FREE AIRTIME

ghemminger
10-23-2007, 09:45 AM
You guys are so funy - Just to let you know this looks like a Stationin Oregon, btw

maverickdy
10-23-2007, 09:46 AM
i've been clicking the vote button multiple times before the page loads and it seems to register each vote

lasenorita
10-23-2007, 09:48 AM
Well, if it's for fun... then I'm definitely joining in!! :)

Btw, you don't even have to click on that Vote Again link. All you have to do is refresh your page. You can even set your browser to automatically refresh in 5 seconds and vote that way. Let's have Ron Paul win and show everyone in Oregon our dedication! Then, afterwards, go wave Ron Paul signs and donate to the campaign. ;)

A Ron Paul Rebel
10-23-2007, 09:48 AM
I casted a vote for a democrat just to see where their % were.
And most everyone is low to mid 20 with Joe Biden at 8%

A strategy could be to vote up the democrat that we want
to compete against... Who would that be?

A Ron Paul Rebel

p.s. Dr. Paul at 13.8%

Elwar
10-23-2007, 09:51 AM
Ok guys...this whole thing is kinda lame and just shows who wins the battle of clicks...

But I'll share my secret (I just used it to help get the thing from 7% to 13%...with your clicks as well).

Go to the vote screen, click on Ron Paul's button...

Then instead of just clicking on the "Vote" button....click on it like a mad man...each time it clicks on that vote button it'll record it as a vote.

So I can get in about 20 clicks before it finally goes to the results page...then I go back and do it again...it goes up quickly that way.

A little thing I learned back in my voting for Harry Browne days.

Still a lame vote though...we should point that out to them after we knock Fred Thompson and Giuliani out.

Elwar
10-23-2007, 09:54 AM
I casted a vote for a democrat just to see where their % were.
And most everyone is low to mid 20 with Joe Biden at 8%


I say we should focus on taking out Clinton and Fred Thompson this week :)

Mark
10-23-2007, 09:54 AM
Open multiple windows... maybe..

vote each one as the others are reloading..

kimosabi
10-23-2007, 09:56 AM
I'm getting RSI....

koob
10-23-2007, 09:59 AM
voted.

again.

&again.

&again.

&again.

&again.

:)

lol ron paul supporters love voting.

mavtek
10-23-2007, 09:59 AM
Alright passed up the Ghoul!

Ibgamer
10-23-2007, 09:59 AM
I just voted a couple times, lol and increased it by almost a whole percent

xRedfoxx
10-23-2007, 10:03 AM
Wow...posted this on several sites and we're almost in the lead!! Good work everyone!! This will help get free air time for sure!!

Seth M.
10-23-2007, 10:04 AM
dr horton :D passed r0mmy

margomaps
10-23-2007, 10:04 AM
I just voted a couple times, lol and increased it by almost a whole percent

Believe me, it's not your voting alone that increased it by a couple percent. There are probably 10 people from this thread repeatedly voting for Ron every 5 seconds. :)

ACJohn
10-23-2007, 10:05 AM
Later Mitt

margomaps
10-23-2007, 10:05 AM
After we get a significant lead, we should try to get Tancredo at the #2 spot. He's a vast improvement over Giuliani, Romney, and Thompson IMO.

ACJohn
10-23-2007, 10:05 AM
Freddy about to get fingered.

Margo37
10-23-2007, 10:06 AM
Got Mitt. After the others when my mouse cools off.

literatim
10-23-2007, 10:06 AM
It doesn't look like there is any single voting blocks on this, just click back and then click vote again.

People shouldn't vote more than once.

PINN4CL3
10-23-2007, 10:06 AM
lol ron paul supporters love voting.



Lol. Lets just hope that carries over into the primaries. :D

hornet
10-23-2007, 10:06 AM
Believe me, it's not your voting alone that increased it by a couple percent. There are probably 10 people from this thread repeatedly voting for Ron every 5 seconds.

yeah i've been steady at it.......

sedele
10-23-2007, 10:07 AM
22.75%:D

Here we come Fred!

Grandson of Liberty
10-23-2007, 10:07 AM
that's just messed up. So really, whoever wins in a poll with a "Vote again" link, is the best at repeatedly spamming? And people don't see that?

What kind of lame poll is that, anyway?

(mumbles "vote again"....)

As Fonzie would say, "Exactamundo."

Not voting in this one. . .sorry. (okay, maybe i'll vote once.)

Mark
10-23-2007, 10:08 AM
I have two tabs open... vote.. refresh before results are displayed..

as it's loading again.. I repeat same in the other tab..

it works so good for me.. most times I miss the results..

Meatwasp
10-23-2007, 10:09 AM
Ron Paul is ahead now .

sedele
10-23-2007, 10:09 AM
25.28%

We are in the Lead!!!! Can't stop now!

hornet
10-23-2007, 10:10 AM
got the lead........

kimosabi
10-23-2007, 10:10 AM
I have two tabs open... vote.. refresh before results are displayed..

as it's loading again.. I repeat same in the other tab..

I had 10 tabs going...

A Ron Paul Rebel
10-23-2007, 10:15 AM
People shouldn't vote more than once.

When the name of the game is to 'have fun' and vote multiple times, then you PLAY THE GAME.

A Ron Paul Rebel

lasenorita
10-23-2007, 10:17 AM
@literatim

The website is encouraging its visitors to vote multiple times. That's quite different from CNBC or Fox who discourage people from voting more than once, tracks visitor IPs, etc. and block multiple cellphone votes. I vote only once on those polls, and rightly so. This one's for fun, however, and I have a few minutes to spare.

Anyways, let's widen the lead. Is 99% too much to ask for? :D

granny miller
10-23-2007, 10:20 AM
Crummy poll. I just voted 3X..what's the pint:confused:

Mark
10-23-2007, 10:25 AM
Crummy poll. I just voted 3X..what's the pint:confused:

FREE AIRTIME FOR THE WINNERs...

At the beginning of this thread.. Dr Paul was WAY behind and about to be
eliminated... which would mean NO MORE FREE AIRTIME..

how much did we just collect TO PAY FOR AIRTIME...

FREE MONEY IT IS...to stay in this 'race' poll... think of the buzz ALREADY... WE TOOK CONTROL..


They WILL notice....



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Seth M.
10-23-2007, 10:26 AM
Crummy poll. I just voted 3X..what's the pint:confused:

air time name recognition :)


is that good enough?

Seth M.
10-23-2007, 10:27 AM
FREE AIRTIME FOR THE WINNERs...

At the beginning of this thread.. Dr Paul was WAY behind and about to be
eliminated... which would mean NO MORE FREE AIRTIME..

how much did we just collect TO PAY FOR AIRTIME...

FREE MONEY IT IS...to stay in this 'race' poll... think of the buzz ALREADY... WE TOOK CONTROL..


They WILL notice....



.

I bet their advertisers will be sending them a nice lil check before its all over with too... yay for everbody

Mark
10-23-2007, 10:28 AM
.

Let's get it to the DEBATE POLL NUMBERS.. at least... >35%

.

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 10:32 AM
People shouldn't vote more than once.

You apparently don't know what a rEVOLution is. It isn't about pretty slogans, it is about action. We are fighting the corporate machine, we do what we need to do to get attention.

lasenorita
10-23-2007, 10:33 AM
There's one round every week so how many rounds are left ...four? It starts every Monday and ends every Monday at 8 AM PST. Mark your schedules, everyone. :)

rockwell
10-23-2007, 10:36 AM
Am I missing something? I just voted and he's in first place.

Seth M.
10-23-2007, 10:36 AM
its going backwards!!!!!! dont quit now!

Seth M.
10-23-2007, 10:39 AM
BTTT the r0mmys caught on!

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 10:40 AM
GOOD JOB everone. I let the macro run for the past 20 minutes, along with your hits and it looks like we have first place with 32%.

drain
10-23-2007, 10:41 AM
i'll bring it back up later if we start losing, had to jump back on work vpn and that site is blocked.

adrian

EvilEngineer
10-23-2007, 10:42 AM
wow... what a lame ass poll. Someone should write the site owners and tell them this huge ass flaw.

Elwar
10-23-2007, 10:44 AM
I was trying to bring up Tancredo while you guys were bringing up Paul's numbers...

I got him up past Rudy's numbers...

:)

Liberty
10-23-2007, 10:47 AM
BTTT the r0mmys caught on!

I wonder how much he's paying his help to punch his name. Everytime he drops below 20% there's a surge to keep him above.

margomaps
10-23-2007, 10:48 AM
I was trying to bring up Tancredo while you guys were bringing up Paul's numbers...

I got him up past Rudy's numbers...

:)

Hey, not so fast. You weren't the only one doing that. :)

A Ron Paul Rebel
10-23-2007, 10:48 AM
I was trying to bring up Tancredo while you guys were bringing up Paul's numbers...

I got him up past Rudy's numbers...

:)

yeah we did.

risiusj
10-23-2007, 10:49 AM
I leave for one class and Ron Paul is at 14.0%. Now he's over 33%.
This poll encourages spamming. What a joke.

Mark
10-23-2007, 10:49 AM
.

Am I missing something? I just voted and he's in first place.


Yeah.. he was in DEAD LAST AND ABOUT TO BE ELIMINATED at the beginning of this thread..

we've been voting like a..

RON PAUL FIRESTORM

.

Lord Xar
10-23-2007, 11:12 AM
perhaps this is all a setup

Seth M.
10-23-2007, 11:14 AM
I leave for one class and Ron Paul is at 14.0%. Now he's over 33%.
This poll encourages spamming. What a joke.

its about the money.. they wanted hits on their ads.. dont you see that? and in return they will give the winning candidate some air time name recognition.

period.

there is nothing immoral about voting in such a poll... they requested voters to vote again.. as each time the page reloaded a new ad was shown.

chill out. its an AM radio station not the election

Brinck Slattery
10-23-2007, 11:16 AM
yeah also the guy who started this thread has... 1 post. SO... maybe he works for the site and wanted some ad moolah.

CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPI RACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!

margomaps
10-23-2007, 11:21 AM
yeah also the guy who started this thread has... 1 post. SO... maybe he works for the site and wanted some ad moolah.

Well, if that was his angle...then KUDOS to him, because he succeeded wildly.

Also, the advertisers might be in for a shock when they get their bill. In that case, they can (perhaps rightly) make the claim that the ad impressions were obtained fraudulently.

Mark
10-23-2007, 11:23 AM
yeah also the guy who started this thread has... 1 post. SO... maybe he works for the site and wanted some ad moolah.

CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPI RACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!

You might have something there... ONE post.. and NO follow-up through the thread..


Well.. they saw.. just a taste.. of.. THE AWESOME POWER of The Ron Paul Nation..

Seth M.
10-23-2007, 11:25 AM
Well, if that was his angle...then KUDOS to him, because he succeeded wildly.

Also, the advertisers might be in for a shock when they get their bill. In that case, they can (perhaps rightly) make the claim that the ad impressions were obtained fraudulently.


its not fraudulent: the WEBSITE REQUESTED VOTERS TO VOTE AGAIN and in doing so a new ad loads... getting people to the ad for instance was thoughtful.. and smart. some voted once others didnt.. its all the same.

no fraud.. we were invited thats all. :rolleyes:

rs3515
10-23-2007, 11:28 AM
its not fraudulent: the WEBSITE REQUESTED VOTERS TO VOTE AGAIN and in doing so a new ad loads... getting people to the ad for instance was thoughtful.. and smart. some voted once others didnt.. its all the same.

no fraud.. we were invited thats all. :rolleyes:

Yep, this is a direct quote from the website:

"The KEX Presidential Straw Poll is unscientific, unofficial and designed for entertainment purposes. Vote as often as you’d like for any candidate and HAVE FUN!"

I'm having fun. ;)

Craig_R
10-23-2007, 11:30 AM
seems to be a good way to get a ton of hits

Trassin
10-23-2007, 11:32 AM
Voted

margomaps
10-23-2007, 11:38 AM
its not fraudulent: the WEBSITE REQUESTED VOTERS TO VOTE AGAIN and in doing so a new ad loads... getting people to the ad for instance was thoughtful.. and smart. some voted once others didnt.. its all the same.

no fraud.. we were invited thats all. :rolleyes:

You might have misunderstood me, and/or I misspoke.

I was trying to say that the advertisers may believe the radio station was acting fraudulently by charging them for ads which appear for maybe 2 seconds as people quickly re-vote again and again.

Hopefully the advertisers pay for unique impressions (by IP address for example) rather than simply for each time a page/ad is loaded.

I never meant to imply that we were acting fraudulently by voting multiple times -- I'm sorry if that's how it came across. As many have already pointed out, the radio station itself is inviting people to vote multiple times. If they're doing this so they can make a lot of money with internet ads, I'd say it's at least ethically questionable.

rs3515
10-23-2007, 11:43 AM
After spending a couple of minutes "fighting the good fight" for Mr. Tancredo, it seems as though I'm about to be overtaken by the Giuliani crew. :(:)

Mark
10-23-2007, 11:44 AM
.

"


Someone must have called Rudy Judyani's person...

he's beating Tancredo again..

.

Alopederii
10-23-2007, 11:48 AM
Maybe I'm thick, but where on the site does it say anything about free advertising?

In the mean time, I'm writing a script to vote for all the democrats except Hillary. Bump her off! :D

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 11:48 AM
Why the hell are you all voting for Tancredo? This is about getting some free coverage for Paul.

Mark
10-23-2007, 11:52 AM
Maybe I'm thick, but where on the site does it say anything about free advertising?

In the mean time, I'm writing a script to vote for all the democrats except Hillary. Bump her off! :D

They'll talk about the poll on the station.. not.. "given" free ads...

just.. the airtime talking about the candidates left in the poll..

WHICH.. as we were FAR BEHIND in the beginning..

We would been kicked out of the race.. and not gotten any mention.. EXCEPT..

How the great Ron Paul Army lost in the early rounds..

I don't want to hear them gloat over an early defeat..

No.. ain't gonna happen...

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CurtisLow
10-23-2007, 11:52 AM
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5670/zzzzzzzzxa8.jpg

Mark
10-23-2007, 11:53 AM
Why the hell are you all voting for Tancredo? This is about getting some free coverage for Paul.

.

Trying to.. DUMP... RUDY JUDYANI... out of the poll and race..


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AdamT
10-23-2007, 11:54 AM
RP just hit 39% :)

lasenorita
10-23-2007, 11:58 AM
You all realize we'll have to do this all over again next week ...and for the next four weeks, right? ;)

risiusj
10-23-2007, 11:59 AM
.

Trying to.. DUMP... RUDY JUDYANI... out of the poll and race..


.

Good idea. This isn't the final results or anything.
This just decides which 4 move on to the next round.
The earlier Rudy is out the better.

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 12:00 PM
You all realize we'll have to do this all over again next week ...and for the next four weeks, right? ;)


Admin note- do not post comments about how to engage in dishonest campaign tactics.

steph3n
10-23-2007, 12:04 PM
Daron,

go away, we don't need this crap.

Mark
10-23-2007, 12:07 PM
.

Sorry to throw this in.. didn't want to start a new thread.. but..
we're talking about Rudy Judyani anyway..




WILL THIS DO RUDY JUDYANI IN ??? ~~POSTED ONLY 3 HOURS AGO~~


http ://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/10/23/giuliani-employs-accused-pedophile-priest/


Giuliani Employs Accused Pedophile Priest

Monsignor Alan Placa, the priest who presided over the wedding
of Rudy Giuliani and Donna Hannover, stands accused of repeatedly sexually
molesting at least three boys at his former parish.
Amid the controversy, Placa stepped down from his duties at
the Long Island Catholic diocese, but he did not have much trouble finding work.

According to ABC News:

Presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hired a Catholic priest to work in
his consulting firm months after the priest was accused of sexually molesting
two former students and an altar boy and told by the church
to stop performing his priestly duties.


In 2002, a Grand Jury found that Placa, along with several of his fellow priests,
could not be prosecuted because the statue of limitations had passed on the
crimes. Placa also had a role in covering up the sexual crimes of the clergy,
including his own, as he worked as the lawyer for the diocese, employing what
the Grand Jury termed, "deception and intimidation," to keep the allegations from
the light of day.

Mr. Placa remains on the Giuliani payroll, despite the growing outcry from
protesters at his campaign events. In an appearance on "Good Morning America"
one of the victims, Richard Tollner, had this to say about Placa and his Giuliani's
relationship:


"This man did unjust things, and he's being protected and employed and taken
care of. It's not a good thing."

Rudy's response to those who would criticize his choice of company is now a
familiar one. As is the case with Bernard Kerik, Giuliani is standing by Placa:

"I know the man; I know who he is, so I support him," Giuliani said. "We give
some of the worst people in our society the presumption of innocence and
benefit of the doubt," he said. "And, of course, I'm going to give that to one of my
closest friends."

Such compassionate rhetoric from the man running on his law and order record
as New York's mayor is a tad hard to swallow. Mr. Giuliani has always prided
himself on possessing a prosecutor's zeal, but it seems that when his own
friends are the criminals in question, his loyalty comes first. Indeed, the Grand
Jury found plenty of evidence against Placa, but the shelf-life of the statue had
simply expired. Mr. Kerik may not be so lucky. He faces Federal charges on
bribery and obstruction of justice.

The question is whether these episodes tell us something about the kind of
president Mr. Giuliani would make. Certainly, he's not the only candidate whose
judgement had been called into play as regards misplaced personal loyalties.
Mitt Romney and Barack Obama come to mind. But what is particularly striking
in Rudy's case is that in stretching his compassion to cover the indiscretions of
his friends, he undercuts a central theme of his own making: that he's tough on
crime.

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 12:08 PM
WOW, thanks for putting that here.

Danny Molina
10-23-2007, 12:48 PM
Dear Rudy,

HA!

Sincerely,
Danny

quickmike
10-23-2007, 01:10 PM
Just curious,

Why is McCain, Brownback and the Huckster showing up at the main page with a line through their names? Not that im complaining:D, just wondering. I know Brownbacks out so..............

Margo37
10-23-2007, 01:14 PM
Why is McCain, Brownback and the Huckster showing up at the main page with a line through their names?

Must have been eliminated in previous weeks.

EvilEngineer
10-23-2007, 01:15 PM
Just curious,

Why is McCain, Brownback and the Huckster showing up at the main page with a line through their names? Not that im complaining:D, just wondering. I know Brownbacks out so..............

They have been outed on the rounds of voting. Each round one was removed. On this one it's looking like Rudy will be outed. Tancredo was beating him last time I noticed.

Grandson of Liberty
10-23-2007, 01:17 PM
Just use the macro scheduler I put on a previous message and you can set it and forget it. Within 20 minutes, I was able to create a couple of hundred votes. The good part is if you are voting in something that tries to block multiple votes by using cookies, you simply can add in the macro to clear your cookies.

Why give legitimacy to the spammer theory? We don't need stuff like that.

devil21
10-23-2007, 01:23 PM
Voted.

lasenorita
10-23-2007, 01:33 PM
I've never used a macro. Don't intend to. It's more fun doing all the hard work and watching the numbers go up half-a-half-percent. The poll says we're supposed to have fun, after all. :)

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 01:36 PM
I've never used a macro. Don't intend to. It's more fun doing all the hard work and watching the numbers go up half-a-half-percent. The poll says we're supposed to have fun, after all. :)

As long as you are having fun and working for the rEVOLution, it doesn't matter how. What frustrates me are the holier than thou people who think this should be a business as usual campaign. They wouldn't have 1/10th the media attention if we ran this business as usual.

steph3n
10-23-2007, 01:40 PM
Daron,

what you are doing is stupid and not helpful.

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 01:43 PM
Daron,

what you are doing is stupid and not helpful.

It is not "I", it is "We". The rEVOLution will not sit by and conduct a business as usual campaign. You may think passing out little fliers will get you media attention, but it wont. Do you think you would have 1/10th the media coverage if it weren't for the rEVOLutionaries?

DaronWestbrooke
10-23-2007, 01:46 PM
Look at this thread and the past several threads in the grassroots forum. The Business as Usual campaigners are in the minority. The rEVOLutionaries are the ones keeping you afloat.

steph3n
10-23-2007, 01:58 PM
Daron,

You are not helping, we have real people, grow up and realize that your ways are not helping.

margomaps
10-23-2007, 01:59 PM
Look at this thread and the past several threads in the grassroots forum. The Business as Usual campaigners are in the minority. The rEVOLutionaries are the ones keeping you afloat.

Daron -

I like your enthusiasm. Representing Paul online is good -- it gets us some media exposure, and it solidifies his online base. However, the campaign will still be won doing "business as usual." We need to get a large percentage of primary voters voting for Paul. Certainly some of those will be non-traditional primary voters -- younger folk who came to know and love Ron Paul online. But historically it's older people who show up to vote in the primary. The older people aren't part of Ron's online revolution. They need to see him in a positive light through traditional means: on TV, in the newspapers, and in person on the campaign trail.

Please do not disparage the people doing "business as usual". It's a vital component to Ron's success. We will not win the primary with only internet voters, period. We need neighborhood canvassing, representation at state and local GOP meetings, and so on. It's a multi-pronged attack, and it's all necessary.

Thanks for listening.

PS: I know you're into revolutionary themes, but why did you choose a socialist revolutionary for your avatar? There are plenty of other revolutionary heroes to choose from that have a message in line with Paul's. The founding fathers come to mind. Socialism is anathema to RP's freedom message.

BrianH
10-23-2007, 02:03 PM
Fmr. NYC Mayor RUDY GIULIANI - New York

11.22 %

Rep. RON PAUL - Texas

45.85 %

Fmr. Govr. MITT ROMNEY - Massachusetts

15.26 %

Rep. TOM TANCREDO - Colorado

12.30 %

Fmr. Senator FRED THOMPSON - Tennessee

15.38 %

robatsu
10-23-2007, 02:03 PM
voted

DanConway
10-23-2007, 02:05 PM
Hahaha, this is hilarious! Go Ron Paul Spammers!

Akus
10-23-2007, 02:06 PM
voted

goldstandard
10-23-2007, 02:11 PM
Voted.
We should recommend this advertising strategy!

jaj1701
10-23-2007, 02:13 PM
On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton is getting close to the bottom in terms of votes, and there for could get eliminated this week.

LibertyEagle
10-23-2007, 02:30 PM
Daron,

If you're going to do it. Do it. But don't advertise it here on this public message board. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

It's ok THIS TIME, because the site says it is ok to vote multiple times. That it is just for fun. But PLEASE do not do this on real polls. We have fought long and hard to get our results acknowledged and then here you come saying you cheat. It is NOT helpful and NOT wanted!!! I would have sent this to you in a Private Message, but it appears that you have that disabled.

Elwar
10-23-2007, 02:36 PM
I tried that macro you listed...it kinda sucks compared to just clicking on the vote button 20-30 times each reload.

Though after a while my fingers start to hurt :)

Bryan
10-23-2007, 02:39 PM
Please do not post about dishonest campaign tactics. Thanks.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/FortOven/vote-once.png

lastnymleft
10-23-2007, 06:17 PM
yeah also the guy who started this thread has... 1 post. SO... maybe he works for the site and wanted some ad moolah.

CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPI RACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!CONSPIRACY!

No, I don't work for the site. I'm genuine. I'm new to RPFever, and voted in the poll, and was getting depressed as RP was way-last, and I saw his numbers were dropping from high-5% to low-5%, with it taking several votes to move up a meagre 0.01%. This is the first time that I've experienced the power of the RonPaul movement, and... Wow!! I'm amazed at what The Force can do! Alone, I am a drop of water, together, we are a tsunami!!

Thanks, guys, for showing that we *can* make a difference.

Brinck Slattery
10-23-2007, 06:19 PM
I was joking, just to be clear. Welcome aboard!

bc2208
10-23-2007, 06:30 PM
45%...we took care of that one

alaric
10-23-2007, 06:34 PM
There's a vote over at http://www.1190kex.com/pages/pages/straw_poll.php and it's not going well at all for Dr Paul. In fact, it's going very badly.

It's not your regular online, 1 day poll. It runs for 8 weeks, with one candidate being eliminated each week. It's round 4, and Dr. Paul is in 5th place, looking like he will be eliminated in this round.

The tragedy of him being eliminated at this point is that he will miss up to four weeks of FREE radio airtime, being discussed with the other top tier candidates. That air-time is very valuable, so it would be very unfortunate if he were to miss out.

I don't know what their game is, but there's two "Vote again" buttons on the page, allowing multiple votes. A refresh does the same.

One (or several) supporters of other candidates have obviously automated the process, and have been absolutely hammering the vote. At this point, I suspect there are so many votes cast that each vote either barely registers, or may only bump the vote by 0.01%. By the end of this week, it looks like there'll be more votes in that poll than there are voters in the US!

Right now, they seem to have ganged up on Dr. Paul. His support is actually going BACKWARDS.

Dr. Paul needs help! Ordinarily, a small radio straw poll wouldn't matter much, but there are tangible rewards if he keeps in this run-off. Remember that $430,000 that was raised for radio airtime recently? That's the sort of dollars that this poll could be worth to the campaign. Well, a good chunk thereof. Please hop over there and help out.

NO! After i voted he was way ahead in 1st place with over 45% of the votes! We must be doing something right now.:p

LibertyEagle
10-23-2007, 06:40 PM
As long as you are having fun and working for the rEVOLution, it doesn't matter how. What frustrates me are the holier than thou people who think this should be a business as usual campaign.

I beg to differ, Daron. It most certainly DOES matter how.


They wouldn't have 1/10th the media attention if we ran this business as usual.

And we probably would have had 1/10th of the negative press, if a few of you wouldn't pull this crap.

Corydoras
10-23-2007, 07:37 PM
I think the percentage is slipping, folks...!

Gimme Some Truth
10-23-2007, 08:18 PM
It's ok THIS TIME, because the site says it is ok to vote multiple times. That it is just for fun. But PLEASE do not do this on real polls. We have fought long and hard to get our results acknowledged and then here you come saying you cheat. It is NOT helpful and NOT wanted!!! I would have sent this to you in a Private Message, but it appears that you have that disabled.

here here

margomaps
10-23-2007, 08:26 PM
FYI, if you're still following this game...

The Fred Heads seemed to have figured out how to work the poll. His numbers have been inreasing rapidly over the past hour. Interestingly, Tancredo's numbers are slowly rising as well, while Paul's are on a slow decline.

NewEnd
10-23-2007, 08:28 PM
mayeb thats paulites tryign to cover the real spamming by fellow paulites

I considered it, myself.

Seth M.
10-23-2007, 08:40 PM
mayeb thats paulites tryign to cover the real spamming by fellow paulites

I considered it, myself.

Spamming refers to using different unethical tactics to achieve high search engine rankings.

the site requests voters to vote again. Lets get this straight its not spam. Its called "look at all my ads over and over again, thanks."


on that note.. pushing tan above rudy is a good idea. :p

aksmith
10-23-2007, 08:52 PM
It seems to go down a hundredth every couple of times I vote. This may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

LibertyEagle
10-23-2007, 08:55 PM
That's because there are more votes going on for someone else.

We're going to have to deal with this again, either tonight or tomorrow morning. There are a lot of votes going on tonight for the other candidates. It wouldn't surprise me if we're no longer in the lead by tomorrow morning.

rpfreedom08
10-23-2007, 08:56 PM
Ok guys can we get off the internet thing? The guy that started this has 3 votes! Do you think he is an rp supporter? I would emagine he is trying to see how far away from what we are supposed to be doing we really are. The internet is ours! there is no denying that. Who gives a rats ass about an online poll? Lets get out there and fight this battle where our forefathers would have been fighting, on the streets! PASS THOSE SLIMJIMS OUT!!!!!!!

margomaps
10-23-2007, 09:03 PM
That's because there are more votes going on for someone else.

We're going to have to deal with this again, either tonight or tomorrow morning. There are a lot of votes going on tonight for the other candidates. It wouldn't surprise me if we're no longer in the lead by tomorrow morning.

At the moment, Fred's numbers are going up far faster than anyone else's (and he's the closest to Ron's numbers).

Over the past 15 minutes, Fred has gained an average of 0.04 points per minute on Ron -- a combination of Fred's total increasing by 0.03 points, and Ron's decreasing by 0.01 points. This works out to be 0.1 points on average every 15 minutes, or 1 percentage point in 150 minutes. As of about 10:55, I calculated that it would take just over 29 hours for Fred to meet Ron's numbers, at approximately 32% each.

Of course, a lot could change in 29 hours. :)

Seth M.
10-23-2007, 09:30 PM
Itll all be fine I assure you

Ron Paul will be at the top in the morning :)

mtmedlin
10-24-2007, 08:30 AM
Fred Heads are voting him up, Ron is losing points every few minutes.

FSP-Rebel
10-24-2007, 09:35 AM
How refreshing to see that our man is solidly in the lead. Keep it coming though.

DaronWestbrooke
10-24-2007, 09:41 AM
Wow, we are up to 43%, and we were at 5% yesterday.

LibertyEagle
10-24-2007, 09:45 AM
Daron:

Must you quote Che Guevara in your sig? Marxism is not exactly in line with Dr. Paul's philosophy, you know.

DaronWestbrooke
10-24-2007, 09:47 AM
Revolution and toppling the establishment is.

runderwo
10-24-2007, 01:14 PM
Were that true, then why legitimize the establishment by playing establishment politics?

DaronWestbrooke
10-24-2007, 01:15 PM
Were that true, then why legitimize the establishment by playing establishment politics?

Who said we were? We are giving the establishment a big middle finger.

steph3n
10-24-2007, 01:18 PM
Who said we were? We are giving the establishment a big middle finger.

Daron, another thing we have to remember, is that we have to revolutionize the next 50 years and century, NOT JUST a presidential term.

LibertyEagle
10-24-2007, 01:24 PM
Revolution and toppling the establishment is.

Actually he believes in following the Constitution, not overthrowing the government. Did you forget?

You seem to be encouraging a Marxist revolution. That is NOT what this campaign is about!!!!!

CasualApathy
10-24-2007, 02:17 PM
Rep. RON PAUL - Texas

36.51 %

mtmedlin
10-24-2007, 06:03 PM
Actually he believes in following the Constitution, not overthrowing the government. Did you forget?

You seem to be encouraging a Marxist revolution. That is NOT what this campaign is about!!!!!

Neither is telling someone what they can or cannot put in thier own personal sig or pic. really, who cares what he puts. You do too many good things for the revolution then to waste time going after a supporter who you have a mild disagreement with.

mtmedlin
10-24-2007, 06:05 PM
ps. ron is down to 34.2%, we may want to vote this one up again. Also, those that were helping tancredo, he is dead last again.

lasenorita
10-24-2007, 08:17 PM
It seems there's a massive effort to bring Fred Thompson's numbers up. I say massive because it's going up .01% every two minutes. From the amount of votes we've already made, there has to be a large amount of votes going for him to make his numbers go up that steadily.

Anyways, check back on Sunday. I think as long as Ron Paul is not in danger of being eliminated this round, we should save our energy for the next voting round. :)

Stealth4
10-24-2007, 08:22 PM
lets make guiliani lose this week!! vote up Paul and Tancredo

Kacela
10-24-2007, 08:34 PM
Im votin' away! :D

alien
10-24-2007, 08:35 PM
It doesn't look like there is any single voting blocks on this, just click back and then click vote again.

So I guess now they are trying to stack the vote against us. Hypocrites!

Stealth4
10-24-2007, 08:50 PM
Vote for TOM TANCREDO.

He's losing and if we get him bumped up some more, then Romney loses this week !

Please vote.

atariman486
10-25-2007, 12:01 AM
Ron Paul 42.12
Tom Tancredo 10.11
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Mitt Romney 9.09

I think this is more scientific than Gallup/Rasmussen anyday! :D

Kacela
10-25-2007, 12:31 PM
He was at 42.50 just a few minutes ago, and now RP's percentage is dropping rather quickly... :O I think somebody scripted something - I can't keep up with them manually!

margomaps
10-25-2007, 01:17 PM
He was at 42.50 just a few minutes ago, and now RP's percentage is dropping rather quickly... :O I think somebody scripted something - I can't keep up with them manually!

Word on the street is that people are using things like the iMacros (http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/3863) Firefox extension to automate the voting process. Using tools like that, as well as more clever hacking techniques, are apparently what the Romney and Thompson campaigns are doing at the moment. Their numbers have skyrocketed since last night.

As to whether it's worthwhile to fight fire with fire...that's a decision each person must make individually. :)

atariman486
10-25-2007, 03:11 PM
For those who wan't to fight fire with fire.... I wonder what this link does:

Ron Paul:
h ttp://www.1190kex.com/cc-common/polling_tool/insertPoll.php?poll_id=53335&redirect=/pages/pages/straw_poll_repub.php&optionID=241349

Tancredo (to beat Romney)
h ttp://www.1190kex.com/cc-common/polling_tool/insertPoll.php?poll_id=53335&redirect=/pages/pages/straw_poll_repub.php&optionID=241351

+iMacros reloading this link as fast as possible...

:D

malibu
10-25-2007, 03:40 PM
I voted once - and RP is leading with 41.39%, Fred Thompson 28.21%, Rudy in last with 7.88%

Results page:
http://www.1190kex.com/pages/pages/straw_poll_repub.php

Vote page:
http://www.1190kex.com/pages/pages/straw_poll.php

mtmedlin
10-25-2007, 09:59 PM
For those who wan't to fight fire with fire.... I wonder what this link does:

Ron Paul:
h ttp://www.1190kex.com/cc-common/polling_tool/insertPoll.php?poll_id=53335&redirect=/pages/pages/straw_poll_repub.php&optionID=241349

Tancredo (to beat Romney)
h ttp://www.1190kex.com/cc-common/polling_tool/insertPoll.php?poll_id=53335&redirect=/pages/pages/straw_poll_repub.php&optionID=241351

+iMacros reloading this link as fast as possible...

:D

Got anything that works with Opera. I dont use firefox

risiusj
10-25-2007, 10:31 PM
There are definitely others doing the same thing. I just ran a macro 100 times and Ron Paul lost 2 hundredths of a percent.

Stealth4
10-25-2007, 10:35 PM
For those who wan't to fight fire with fire.... I wonder what this link does:

Ron Paul:
h ttp://www.1190kex.com/cc-common/polling_tool/insertPoll.php?poll_id=53335&redirect=/pages/pages/straw_poll_repub.php&optionID=241349

Tancredo (to beat Romney)
h ttp://www.1190kex.com/cc-common/polling_tool/insertPoll.php?poll_id=53335&redirect=/pages/pages/straw_poll_repub.php&optionID=241351

+iMacros reloading this link as fast as possible...

:D

Those dont work for me - just shows up as text (internet explorer)

LibertyEagle
10-25-2007, 10:36 PM
You'd better run it another few hundred times.

risiusj
10-25-2007, 10:51 PM
Slowly losing ground to Thompson.
If you have Firefox then just get the add-on iMacros. With that you can easily make your own macro to vote as fast as possible.

LFOD
10-25-2007, 10:59 PM
heh - I just voted 10 times. That was kinda fun. Yet stupid. Looks like the scripters are going to have to keep at it. My connection isn't so good for that. I watched RP's numbers decline in the couple minutes I was there.

And I quote:

"Vote as often as you’d like for any candidate"

Even a totally uncontrolled poll like this where multiple votes are actually encouraged, is not meaningless. If Ron wins, it still says we have the most internet support.

Stealth4
10-25-2007, 11:00 PM
heh - I just voted 10 times. That was kinda fun. Yet stupid. Looks like the scripters are going to have to keep at it. My connection isn't so good for that. I watched RP's numbers decline in the couple minutes I was there.

And I quote:

"Vote as often as you’d like for any candidate"

Even a totally uncontrolled poll like this where multiple votes are actually encouraged, is not meaningless. If Ron wins, it still says we have the most internet support.

can someone take the lead on putting together an explanation of the macros and PMing it to interested forum members? We (if required) can run them enmass.

LFOD
10-25-2007, 11:35 PM
Ok, it was worth installing iMacros - that might be useful for real stuff. For those using Firefox, go here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3863 to download the iMacros plug in.

Once installed, just go to the vote page, click Rec on the iMacros control, then click on the Ron Paul button, click "vote", then click "vote again". Then play the macro to check that it works. Then set the loop to how many times you'd like it to run. I'll chip in my 10000. :-)

And again - no one can accuse us of cheating. This particular poll explicitly says to vote as many times as you like. It isn't hacking either - the program is just reproducing your mouse clicks. Even if it's possible to vote multiple times on other polls, I only vote once. This one is different.

margomaps
10-25-2007, 11:52 PM
I wanted to give Tancredo a "boost to remember". I think I succeeded. :D

atariman486
10-26-2007, 08:29 PM
For those who wan't to fight fire with fire.... I wonder what this link does:

Ron Paul:
h ttp://www.1190kex.com/cc-common/polling_tool/insertPoll.php?poll_id=53335&redirect=/pages/pages/straw_poll_repub.php&optionID=241349

Tancredo (to beat Romney)
h ttp://www.1190kex.com/cc-common/polling_tool/insertPoll.php?poll_id=53335&redirect=/pages/pages/straw_poll_repub.php&optionID=241351

+iMacros reloading this link as fast as possible...



Those dont work for me - just shows up as text (internet explorer)

Yea, that text is whats returned and normally displayed in your browser window using AJAX so the page doesn't have to be entirely reloaded. Those links just send the vote for RP right to the php page so that you don't have to keep clicking back and selecting him and clicking vote and what not. Basically, that link is whats visited when you click the submit button for voting for Ron Paul.

qwerty
10-27-2007, 12:22 AM
Come on WE NEED TO VOTE AGAIN Thompson is getting closer!

sedele
10-27-2007, 08:29 AM
just voted about a dozen more times.

RP is stuck at 35.99%. What's going on?

me3
10-27-2007, 08:30 AM
You're wasting your time? :D

rs3515
10-27-2007, 08:43 AM
Go Go Tancredo Go! :D

TooConservative
10-27-2007, 08:44 AM
If they're showing ads and getting paid by the pageview on them, then they may be manually adjusting the numbers, pushing the others up and RP's numbers down, just to bait all of you into increasing their pageviews.

These people may be scamming RP supporters. I've been expecting this. They're using sugar to draw the flies. We're the flies.

TooConservative
10-27-2007, 08:56 AM
just voted about a dozen more times.

RP is stuck at 35.99%. What's going on?

They've capped RP's numbers to keep their scam going?

LibertyEagle
10-27-2007, 09:11 AM
I doubt it. There are several camps using macros. There are so damn many votes now, it takes a huge number to do anything at all to the percentages.

sunny
10-27-2007, 09:30 AM
come on everybody just keep clicking.
he's at 35.86 and now and he's winning.
keep clicking!!!

sunny
10-27-2007, 09:40 AM
watch the numbers - this is crap!

when i started in was 35.86 for ron and 33.85 for fred.
now it's 35.82 for ron and 33.90 for fred.

THIS POLL IS RIGGED!
WHAT A BUNCH OF GARBAGEOLA!

i just called the toll free # at the top and it just rings into oblivion~
same for the other #
going to send them an e

Stealth4
10-27-2007, 10:06 AM
watch the numbers - this is crap!

when i started in was 35.86 for ron and 33.85 for fred.
now it's 35.82 for ron and 33.90 for fred.

THIS POLL IS RIGGED!
WHAT A BUNCH OF GARBAGEOLA!

i just called the toll free # at the top and it just rings into oblivion~
same for the other #
going to send them an e

uh, other people are voting to - dont call and yell at people. Whats wrong with you.

ValidusCustodiae
10-27-2007, 10:18 AM
why is there a vote again button that refreshes it? THAT IS WHACKD

kevman657
10-27-2007, 10:25 AM
Y'all do know that the vote again button only applies if you change your vote, right? I've used this same script and it matches the IP with the choice picked. If you change your vote, it will then mark it.


We got his percent up because of all these unique people voting. When this thread started, everyone was voting a million times and it wasn't doing anything. Now look...we got him up no problem.

TooConservative
10-27-2007, 10:34 AM
Y'all do know that the vote again button only applies if you change your vote, right? I've used this same script and it matches the IP with the choice picked. If you change your vote, it will then mark it.

So they let people who voted for candidates that got voted off the island pick a second or third choice this way?

steph3n
10-27-2007, 10:39 AM
send me a PM for another way to vote, it is much faster than the macro's :D about 5 people will get the % moving quick

malibu
10-27-2007, 11:41 AM
THAT IS WHACKD

ROTFLMAO - It is isn't it !

lastnymleft
10-29-2007, 09:04 AM
I don't know when this damn poll is going to end. It was *meant* to end at 8am Monday. Anyway, here's where we are at at present. It seems there's an upset in the making!:

Republican Straw Poll
Fmr. NYC Mayor RUDY GIULIANI - New York
2.00 %

Rep. RON PAUL - Texas
39.31 %

Fmr. Govr. MITT ROMNEY - Massachusetts
7.84 %

Rep. TOM TANCREDO - Colorado
17.73 %

Fmr. Senator FRED THOMPSON - Tennessee
33.11 %


And get *THIS*! The annointed one is going to get the boot!! :-) :-) :

Democratic Straw Poll

Senator JOE BIDEN - Delaware
23.32 %

Senator HILLARY CLINTON - New York
5.95 %

Fmr. Senator JOHN EDWARDS - North Carolina
24.09 %

Senator BARACK OBAMA - Illinois
24.07 %

Governor BILL RICHARDSON - New Mexico
22.58 %

This goes on for a few more weeks, (hopefully sans Clinton and Giuliani!):
http://www.1190kex.com/pages/pages/straw_poll_demo.php

westmich4paul
10-29-2007, 09:49 AM
that's just messed up. So really, whoever wins in a poll with a "Vote again" link, is the best at repeatedly spamming? And people don't see that?

What kind of lame poll is that, anyway?

(mumbles "vote again"....)
Oh now you just sound like Hannity

Taco John
10-29-2007, 09:53 AM
http://www.browsehide.com/

Elwar
10-29-2007, 10:47 AM
They dropped Rudy and Hillary...

The poll has started over and now the numbers go up quickly per click.

filmmaker58
10-29-2007, 10:57 AM
Is this a trap to prove that RP supporters will vote more than once? What kind of acuracy can a poll hope to have if you can vote on it all day? I've got a bad feeling about this.

Stealth4
10-29-2007, 11:01 AM
Is this a trap to prove that RP supporters will vote more than once? What kind of acuracy can a poll hope to have if you can vote on it all day? I've got a bad feeling about this.

I dont think you can vote more than once, I think you can only change your vote? Im saying this based on what someone else posted.

For now just vote once. Check back in On sat/sunday.

margomaps
10-29-2007, 11:15 AM
I dont think you can vote more than once, I think you can only change your vote? Im saying this based on what someone else posted.

For now just vote once. Check back in On sat/sunday.

Nah, the site actively encourages visitors to vote as many times as they want via the "vote again" link. This is really a game -- the website likely gets advertising revenue every time the page is loaded. But there will be some publicity in it for the candidate who comes out on top. So I see nothing wrong with playing the game according to their own rules.

risiusj
10-29-2007, 11:20 AM
You can vote over and over again.
I just voted for Ron Paul 350 times using iMacro add-on in Firefox.
Who's responsible for the Tancredo bomb? He went from a couple percent to 23.45% in the time that I voted.

QWE
10-29-2007, 11:37 AM
looks like Ron Paul's going backwards again, Tancredo's gaining

margomaps
10-29-2007, 11:43 AM
You can vote over and over again.
I just voted for Ron Paul 350 times using iMacro add-on in Firefox.
Who's responsible for the Tancredo bomb? He went from a couple percent to 23.45% in the time that I voted.

He's up to 30+% now. My bad, I'll take care of it. :cool:

margomaps
10-29-2007, 11:48 AM
FYI, it would be great if this week's poll went something like:

40% Paul
30% Tancredo
20% Romney
10% Thompson

Why? Because the Thompson camp knows how to hammer this poll. They're our biggest threat. The following week we can deal with Romney, and then finally defeat Tancredo. I like having Tancredo in there up until the end, because he's IMO the least egregious 2nd choice by far.

kimosabi
10-30-2007, 08:52 AM
I'd love to know how many vote Dr Paul got last week...

steph3n
10-30-2007, 09:04 AM
I'd love to know how many vote Dr Paul got last week...

easily millions. Some for Thompson.

kimosabi
10-31-2007, 05:59 PM
Thompson is 5% behind Ron Paul, must be time to hit this Poll again:

Ron Paul - 34.05%
Fred Thompson - 29.86%
Tom Tancredo - 20.49%
Mitt Romney - 15.59%

margomaps
10-31-2007, 06:04 PM
Thompson is 5% behind Ron Paul, must be time to hit this Poll again:

Ron Paul - 34.05%
Fred Thompson - 29.86%
Tom Tancredo - 20.49%
Mitt Romney - 15.59%

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. This is not the 40, 10, 30, 20 proportions I'm looking for. I'm confident the numbers will realign closer to this ideal shortly.

lastnymleft
10-31-2007, 06:48 PM
I'm not sure it's good for the poll's credibility, and for the likelihood that the radio announcers will talk about the poll seriously, if Tom Tancredo keeps alive here. He just doesn't have that much support. We have to be pragmatic about this. Tancredo is *not* top tier. A Paul, Thompson, Romney fight is more believable.

The same can be said of the Democrat side. How much credibility does that poll have now that Hillary is eliminated? Not that it wasn't fun to vote for someone else, but still...

kevman657
10-31-2007, 07:03 PM
I'm not sure it's good for the poll's credibility, and for the likelihood that the radio announcers will talk about the poll seriously, if Tom Tancredo keeps alive here. He just doesn't have that much support. We have to be pragmatic about this. Tancredo is *not* top tier. A Paul, Thompson, Romney fight is more believable.

The same can be said of the Democrat side. How much credibility does that poll have now that Hillary is eliminated? Not that it wasn't fun to vote for someone else, but still...

I agree. Get Mitt and Thompson up to Paul. That would make them talk about it more seriously.

RonPaulFever
10-31-2007, 08:48 PM
bump

Pete Kay
10-31-2007, 09:27 PM
This is the dumbest poll ever. I voted for Ron Paul ten times. I am done. Why waste time on such a worthless poll that proves nothing? I'd rather be spreading the message than voting in polls that have no meaning.

mtmedlin
11-02-2007, 09:50 AM
Thompsons rising, he will overtake RP soon.

A Ron Paul Rebel
11-02-2007, 09:56 AM
this is simply so new viewers see RP at the top and that the 'others' are being deleted.

qwerty
11-02-2007, 09:59 AM
I spend my next 5 minutes on this one! You should too!

Don´t let Thompson too close....

:cool:

margomaps
11-02-2007, 10:01 AM
This is the dumbest poll ever. I voted for Ron Paul ten times. I am done. Why waste time on such a worthless poll that proves nothing? I'd rather be spreading the message than voting in polls that have no meaning.

If you're sitting there clicking on the poll repeatedly, then I agree: huge waste of time.

The Thompson supporters have figured out how to play this game more efficiently. And I reckon so have supporters of some of the other candidates.

margomaps
11-02-2007, 10:02 AM
Thompsons rising, he will overtake RP soon.

Nope, not likely to happen IMO.

risiusj
11-02-2007, 10:03 AM
If you have Firefox, get the add-on iMacros.
With it you can set up a Firefox window to vote continuously while you go about your normal internet browsing in another window.
I just voted 150 times without even doing anything.

Stealth4
11-02-2007, 10:04 AM
If you have Firefox, get the add-on iMacros.
With it you can set up a Firefox window to vote continuously while you go about your normal internet browsing in another window.
I just voted 150 times without even doing anything.

Sure that does anything? Someone said earlier that the "vote again" button only works if you change your vote, but it doesnt allow you to vote more than once.

qwerty
11-02-2007, 10:06 AM
People, keep on clicking the numbers are rising again ;)

risiusj
11-02-2007, 10:10 AM
Sure that does anything? Someone said earlier that the "vote again" button only works if you change your vote, but it doesnt allow you to vote more than once.

I'm pretty confident it does. How else do the vote totals get so high?
If you're that paranoid you can set it up to vote for Paul, vote for Romney, vote for Paul, vote for Thompson, and repeat.
But that would be a big waste of half your votes.

margomaps
11-02-2007, 10:24 AM
People, keep on clicking the numbers are rising again ;)

Please don't bother wasting your time clicking. If you must, get the iMacros extension in Firefox (or the equivalent in IE, if there is one). But really -- don't bother. Other people already have this covered in a more efficient manner.

mtmedlin
11-04-2007, 08:27 PM
Looks like Romney is done for. We have to get rid of Thomson next.

angelatc
11-04-2007, 08:40 PM
I am glad somebody remembered this poll.

risiusj
11-05-2007, 10:59 AM
bump

While we've been making history Fred Thompson has jumped to a huge lead in this meaningless poll!

angelatc
11-05-2007, 11:09 AM
bump

sedele
11-05-2007, 11:11 AM
2.42%?!

LibertyEagle
11-05-2007, 11:15 AM
It's a new week, so they reset. We need to get busy and pour on the votes. It should move pretty easily. :)

C'mon guys, while we're watching the money come in, let's do something constructive and drive this percentage up where it belongs.

risiusj
11-05-2007, 11:16 AM
It is.
I've run through the macro a couple hundred times. Ron Paul started at 0.40%. He's at 3.37% now.

evadmurd
11-05-2007, 11:18 AM
95% Fred
less than 5% RP.

Give me a break!

It is rigged.

angelatc
11-05-2007, 11:18 AM
They reset it while I was voting. I voted once, and the poll showed up with Ron Paul at 2% and Fred at 98%.

There's certainly some bots involved. Will this iMacro thing run in the background, or in a tab or something? It was simple enough to get it to start looping, but if I try to go to another page or even minimize the browser it stops.


(never mind! I had the max loop at 3.)

margomaps
11-05-2007, 11:18 AM
bump

While we've been making history Fred Thompson has jumped to a huge lead in this meaningless poll!

That's because Romney was bumped, and a new poll started. I have a feeling these numbers will turn in Paul's favor soon. :)

margomaps
11-05-2007, 11:19 AM
They reset it while I was voting. I voted once, and the poll showed up with Ron Paul at 2% and Fred at 98%.

There's certainly some bots involved. Will this iMacro thing run in the background, or in a tab or something? It was simple enough to get it to start looping, but if I try to go to another page or even minimize the browser it stops.

Don't bother, please. Others have it covered. :)

Marshall
11-05-2007, 11:19 AM
It is.
I've run through the macro a couple hundred times. Ron Paul started at 0.40%. He's at 3.37% now.

Just started mine

risiusj
11-05-2007, 11:20 AM
If you're going to run iMacros just open up a separate browser window.
That's what I'm doing and it works fine.

Is our strategy to let Thompson go to the final round? That way it would look a little better since Tancredo doesn't have support monetarily or in the polls.

We're flying now.
16% and flying up!