hard@work
10-23-2007, 02:04 AM
There's been a decent amount of posts regarding redstate.com. If you've noticed a lot of the negativity emanating from that website on these forums you are not alone. The organization is a neoconservative group and attracts neoconservatives to itself. You have to understand that these are not real Republicans. They are representative of three groups:
1. True neoconservatives who believe in the socialist authoritarian faux-conservative movement ("neo"-conservative). We know who they are and what they represent. They would just as soon see Hillary, Edwards, or Obama in office as Ron Paul but would be happy to pretend otherwise.
2. Assorted riff-raff and nutjobs. Individuals with no real political allegiance or understanding of policies they superficially support. Completely held by media fed ideology they maintain the status quo of "red state" vs. "blue state" preventing us from attaining free state with their shallow mindset and ineptitude.
3. Republican hold outs who are clinging to what they've believed have been Republican values. After 9/11 and seeing their party leader George W. Bush launch us into several wars they've bought and own their belief system. These are our targets and those who simply need to be reminded of their heritage. This will take time, how much time depends on how deeply invested the individual is in their beliefs.
These groups outlined, you should understand the real truth about "Red State". To really put it into context, there is no such thing as a "Red State". This is the divisive tactics put into place by the neoconservative movement in order to polarize the country. There are a few theories as to why they would do this, Karl Rove stated he would like to see a one party system with the Republican party dominating for decades. Regardless, the polarization caused by the "Red State vs. Blue State" branding is destroying the American political system. This organization is feeding into this, but fortunately for us they are near irrelevant.
RedState.com's traffic levels are barely able to match our own forums and are completely dwarfed by ronpaul2008.com! You ABSOLUTELY have to understand the implications of this.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1420/redstatsel4.jpg
Not only is this small organization nearly irrelevant, they are representative of an ever shrinking base. A party that is fragmenting and dwindling daily, the very party we are trying to save before this country falls into the hands of yet another Clinton after yet another Bush. These people are NOT REPUBLICANS and you must understand this! There are very few true conservatives left amongst these groups, the leadership of our party is easily represented by this website. Naive, grasping, dwindling, and venemous. They would stab the back of their own party in order to save face and prevent a loss of their power. The group that runs this website is no different, and their fan base is the same. But their fan base is impotent, representing the supposed entire spectrum of the Republican party they are barely able to maintain traffic levels on par with a political campaign forum - a forum that has no articles, advertisement banners, or any type of major content to draw consistent traffic on the level of Red State.
This group is not worth our time. Except those of us willing to plead for true conservative platforms and a return of the old right, please do not post any links to their negativity or ignorance. This is a battle for our party, and you must understand that we represent true conservative and libertarian positions as put forth from Jefferson all the way to Reagan. To allow this website to cause any type of frustration in our community is not only a waste of time, it is giving this small failing group more voice than they either deserve or have the merit to achieve independently.
Please rethink posting anything from this group that is not beneficial or that you do not spend time rebutting with detailed policy description, it is simply below us now. We represent the old right, and we are signing up more New Republicans than any other group. We are the ones with sound policies, we are the ones with the youth behind us, we are the ones pulling Republicans back into the fold, we are the ones uniting previously splintered factions, we are the ones bringing even the opposition to the table, and we are the ones representing the true Republican party that has been subverted by the neoconservative movement - a movement that failed and was comprised of members known as "the crazies" for thirty years.
Do not forget this is a battle for the soul of our party and our fellow party members. But even in this we must remember that we have to fight those groups that will never recover. And we must not serve their interests by spreading their negativity and discontent.
1. True neoconservatives who believe in the socialist authoritarian faux-conservative movement ("neo"-conservative). We know who they are and what they represent. They would just as soon see Hillary, Edwards, or Obama in office as Ron Paul but would be happy to pretend otherwise.
2. Assorted riff-raff and nutjobs. Individuals with no real political allegiance or understanding of policies they superficially support. Completely held by media fed ideology they maintain the status quo of "red state" vs. "blue state" preventing us from attaining free state with their shallow mindset and ineptitude.
3. Republican hold outs who are clinging to what they've believed have been Republican values. After 9/11 and seeing their party leader George W. Bush launch us into several wars they've bought and own their belief system. These are our targets and those who simply need to be reminded of their heritage. This will take time, how much time depends on how deeply invested the individual is in their beliefs.
These groups outlined, you should understand the real truth about "Red State". To really put it into context, there is no such thing as a "Red State". This is the divisive tactics put into place by the neoconservative movement in order to polarize the country. There are a few theories as to why they would do this, Karl Rove stated he would like to see a one party system with the Republican party dominating for decades. Regardless, the polarization caused by the "Red State vs. Blue State" branding is destroying the American political system. This organization is feeding into this, but fortunately for us they are near irrelevant.
RedState.com's traffic levels are barely able to match our own forums and are completely dwarfed by ronpaul2008.com! You ABSOLUTELY have to understand the implications of this.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1420/redstatsel4.jpg
Not only is this small organization nearly irrelevant, they are representative of an ever shrinking base. A party that is fragmenting and dwindling daily, the very party we are trying to save before this country falls into the hands of yet another Clinton after yet another Bush. These people are NOT REPUBLICANS and you must understand this! There are very few true conservatives left amongst these groups, the leadership of our party is easily represented by this website. Naive, grasping, dwindling, and venemous. They would stab the back of their own party in order to save face and prevent a loss of their power. The group that runs this website is no different, and their fan base is the same. But their fan base is impotent, representing the supposed entire spectrum of the Republican party they are barely able to maintain traffic levels on par with a political campaign forum - a forum that has no articles, advertisement banners, or any type of major content to draw consistent traffic on the level of Red State.
This group is not worth our time. Except those of us willing to plead for true conservative platforms and a return of the old right, please do not post any links to their negativity or ignorance. This is a battle for our party, and you must understand that we represent true conservative and libertarian positions as put forth from Jefferson all the way to Reagan. To allow this website to cause any type of frustration in our community is not only a waste of time, it is giving this small failing group more voice than they either deserve or have the merit to achieve independently.
Please rethink posting anything from this group that is not beneficial or that you do not spend time rebutting with detailed policy description, it is simply below us now. We represent the old right, and we are signing up more New Republicans than any other group. We are the ones with sound policies, we are the ones with the youth behind us, we are the ones pulling Republicans back into the fold, we are the ones uniting previously splintered factions, we are the ones bringing even the opposition to the table, and we are the ones representing the true Republican party that has been subverted by the neoconservative movement - a movement that failed and was comprised of members known as "the crazies" for thirty years.
Do not forget this is a battle for the soul of our party and our fellow party members. But even in this we must remember that we have to fight those groups that will never recover. And we must not serve their interests by spreading their negativity and discontent.