John Stossel To Discuss Ron Paul Possible Presidential Run On O'Reilly Factor Tomorrow

[Immortal Technique]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTJ-GhvH_o

Airing Date Feb.14, 2011

John Stossel To Discuss Ron Paul Possible Presidential Run On O'Reilly Factor Tomorrow

I have a youtube channel i never use so i seen the commercial and decided to inform you all to tune in.

Its like 08 !

[Inkblots]

Uh, it says that's a private video. Can't watch it.

[Immortal Technique]

FIXED! sorry bout that

[bunklocoempire]

Yikes! I'm hopin' to view some Factor...:confused:

Don't you let me down John Stossel! Don't you do it!!!!

:D

Like '08 indeed!

Bunkloco

[rprprs]

Yikes! I'm hopin' to view some Factor...:confused:

Don't you let me down John Stossel! Don't you do it!!!!

:D

Like '08 indeed!

Bunkloco

Doubt that he will. O'Reilly will handle all the negatives, marginalization, etc.:(

[dannno]

//

[SWATH]

Sometimes Stossel lets his overly rational side dominate his ability to say "fuck it, I'm all in!"

[MRoCkEd]

Thanks for the clip!

[KramerDSP]

Bump!

[KramerDSP]

The Factor just started. No mention of Stossel or Ron in the intro.

[KramerDSP]

Stossel's preemptive response (http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2011/02/15/bill-o%e2%80%99reilly-vs-ron-paul/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter):


February 15, 2011 08:55 PM UTC by John Stossel

Bill O’Reilly vs. Ron Paul
Why doesn’t Bill get it? On tonight’s show, he’s going to rant about federal spending. He wants cuts. Good.

But then he wants to have me on so he can tell me why Ron Paul is wrong, and odd, and shouldn’t be running for President -- and Donald Trump is right.

I don’t know where to begin.

We hold elections because we don't know who's going to win. Ron Paul might win.
Who thought Jimmy Carter could win? Or Barack Obama? A black, ultra-liberal, freshman Senator? Or Abe Lincoln? Lincoln was a dark horse. He defeated two much better known candidates for the Republican nomination in 1860 – at a time when the Republican party had never won a presidential election before.

Think about sports. How many times has the underdog won a big game? They don't play the games "on paper." They play them on the field. Because you never know.

People are waking up to the horror of government spending. Maybe this time, the public is ready for Ron Paul.

I like Donald Trump, but he’s wrong about lots of things. He keeps saying : Americans “no longer make things.”

He is dead wrong: American manufacturing output is now near an all-time high.

If Ron Paul's not running for President, who will point out the evils of big government? It needs to be said. It woke some people up last time. I wish O’Reilly would listen. In some ways, he’s a big government guy. He wants to fight a War on Drugs, investigate oil companies, and forbid insurance compaines from demanding more money from people with pre-existing conditions. He should spend some time listening to ron Paul.

[Wren]

Is there a link to a live stream?

[Flash]

Tune in now. It's on next.

[tangent4ronpaul]

"directly ahead: will Ron Paul destroy the republican party" :rolleyes:

ie: slam piece!

[Wren]

Nevermind, found a link: http://www.zahitv.com/2010/07/watch-fox-news-live/

IT'S ON NOW!

[KramerDSP]

Now!

[jclay2]

Dang it, sometimes its not good to not have tv!

[KramerDSP]

They made a bet with each other. O'Reilly bet $1,000 that Paul won't win a single primary.

[Wren]

Dang it, sometimes its not good to not have tv!

check out the link i posted. but it's over now..

[jclay2]

What Happened?

[trey4sports]

caught the last 5 seconds (literally) something about a thousand dollars

[SWATH]

Stossel took the bet! It's on!

[low preference guy]

stossel did a good job. he said the reasons we have elections is that we don't know who will win. people might be more open to Paul's ideas now that everyone wants to cut.

[tsai3904]

I liked O'Reilly's comment about how Paul's not going to win because people don't want to change. That line can be used to show that if everyone wants the status quo, vote for everyone else.

[KramerDSP]

It was what I expected, but Bill was far more concillatory. He still called Ron a person with "isolationist tendencies". Stossel wasn't too bad, but I think he could have done a little better.

[Wren]

Summary: Billo wants us to stay in afghanistan till we go bankrupt, doesn't believe Ron will win. He placed a $1,000 bet with stossel that RP can't win to which stossel accepted the bet

[KramerDSP]

I liked O'Reilly's comment about how Paul's not going to win because people don't want to change. That line can be used to show that if everyone wants the status quo, vote for everyone else.

Now that you said that....

Krauthammer is up next. No doubt there will be huge bashing of Paul.

[ravedown]

man i want o'reilly to eat crow...good for stossel for taking that bet. also-stossel should have argued against o'reilly's "isolationist" claim. better get use to the "can't win" mantra.

[low preference guy]

Stossel wasn't too bad, but I think he could have done a little better.

It was what I expected, Stossel isn't the best when it comes to thinking on one's feet.

[low preference guy]

Charles Krauthammer is going to talk about 2012 next (I think, I don't remember if the announcement was that he was going to talk next or in some other show). Let's see if he mentions Paul.

[rawful]

Eh...Stossel could have done better. When O'Reilly called him an isolationist Stossel didn't say anything, and when O'Reilly went on with his Al Qaeda fearmongering Stossel could have said we don't have the money for it anymore.

[hazek]

They made a bet with each other. O'Reilly bet $1,000 that Paul won't win a single primary.

He would have lost last time around since Ron won Nevada.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Be sure to vote in the poll - Bill Oreilly - pinhead or patriot

[winston_blade]

Can we get O'Reilly arrested on illegal gambling charges or something?

[jclay2]

Lets make billo pay out on that bet!

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

I wish O’Reilly would listen. In some ways, he’s a big government guy. He wants to fight a War on Drugs, investigate oil companies, and forbid insurance compaines from demanding more money from people with pre-existing conditions.O'Reilly is absolutely a big government guy. He just wants big government funding the Establishment Republican agenda rather than a Liberal one.

The Tea Party has had no effect on him at all.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Can we get O'Reilly arrested on illegal gambling charges or something?

Gentleman's bet with winnings to be paid to a charity - that's legal.

[dannno]

He would have lost last time around since Ron won Nevada.

Precisely what I was thinking. Just because the big guys take their ball and go home certainly doesn't mean they win.

[YumYum]

I saw this interview with Jenna Jameson and she claimed that Bill O'Reilly asked her for some of her vids.

Bill O'Reilly asked Jenna Jameson for some of her videos after interview

"I've never seen any of your videos...can you send me some?"

-- O'Reilly, as quoted by Jenna Jameson on her "E! True Hollywood Story" (premiered tonight)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x159977

[winston_blade]

Gentleman's bet with winnings to be paid to a charity - that's legal.

wasn't aware winnings were going to a charity.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I saw this interview with Jenna Jameson and she claimed that Bill O'Reilly asked her for some of her vids.

Bill O'Reilly asked Jenna Jameson for some of her videos after interview

"I've never seen any of your videos...can you send me some?"

-- O'Reilly, as quoted by Jenna Jameson on her "E! True Hollywood Story" (premiered tonight)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x159977

Just looked her up on Google images. Hard to believe she made a living making porn....

[tangent4ronpaul]

wasn't aware winnings were going to a charity.

Wounded Warriors foundation. If Oreilly looses it goes to his choice of charity. :rolleyes:

It's not supposed to work that way.

[kahless]

Krauthammer bashing to begin in 3, 2, 1...

[KramerDSP]

Krauthammer - Paul's supporters are "weird". Young libertarians who will eventually grow up to be conservatives. Paul is nuts because 1) he wants to end the fed, 2) he wants to repeal the patriot act, and 3) he wants to bring our troops home from overseas.

Man, Krauthammer is laughable. Those are the three best things about Paul, and this video is good for recruiting Democrats and independents to cross party lines, and register republican in closed primary states to vote for Ron.

[YumYum]

Just looked her up on Google images. Hard to believe she made a living making porn....

You should have seen her when she first started out in porn before she had plastic surgery. She made Barbara Streisand look like Angelina Jolie.

[kahless]

Then BillO said Ron could not win and Krauthammer back praising Romney.

[YumYum]

Krauthammer - Paul's supporters are "weird". Young libertarians who will eventually grow up to be conservatives. Paul is nuts because 1) he wants to end the fed, 2) he wants to repeal the patriot act, and 3) he wants to bring our troops home from overseas.

Man, Krauthammer is laughable. Those are the three best things about Paul, and this video is good for recruiting Democrats and independents to cross party lines, and register republican in closed primary states to vote for Ron.

I don't know why, but every time I see Krauthammer, his face reminds me of a turtle.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.antiwar.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Krauthammer_Charlesharrywalkeragency.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2010/10/25/krauthammer-wikileaks-show-the-u-s-militarys-restraint/&usg=__PLu3_BjcSeIHVfF2kNjxWXgnaFM=&h=301&w=255&sz=37&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=UgLybcjfK9tCaM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=108&ei=jy5bTaOHNM2_tgfb3tGVCw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DKrauthammer%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfire fox-a%26sa%3DG%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D587%26gbv%3D2%26t bs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=134&vpy=87&dur=5196&hovh=240&hovw=204&tx=78&ty=260&oei=jy5bTaOHNM2_tgfb3tGVCw&page=1&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0

[low preference guy]

Krauthammer tube?

[olehounddog]

And when billo writes the check we pay for his taxable donation. I refuse to take deduction for what is supposed to be a gift from the heart and let other people pay for my charity.
I had a lady at cpac tell me I was an isolationist after I said we should bring all our troops home from foreign soil. Then I explained that I felt putting sanctions on other countries isolated us more. I wanted to be free to travel, trade with, and talk to the people of all nations with no restrictions. Her final remark on the subject was "Well, you're quiet the capitalist". I left it alone there.

[Kregisen]

Youtube

[The Dude]

Bump for tube

[jct74]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-oreilly-bets-john-stossel-that-ron-paul-cannot-win-one-presidential-primary/

[jct74]

Here's Krauthammer giving his thoughts on Ron Paul winning the straw poll. Some of the words Krauthammer uses to describe Ron Paul supporters is weird, fringey, offshore. O'Reilly again says Ron Paul running for president would actually be a good thing (@2:30).

http://video.foxnews.com/#/v/4540857/krauthammer-on-possible-gop-presidential-candidates/?playlist_id=87937

[Immortal Technique]

youtube is doing maintenance, more tubes will follow....

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Fox is worse than Pravda. Seriously, I'd rather Pravda replace Fox.

[specsaregood]

Gentleman's bet with winnings to be paid to a charity - that's legal.

If somebody that watched the segment is inclined to email O'Reilly, it might be worth pointing out that:
Just last year Dr. Paul won the "Lifetime Achievement for charity involvement" award. An award first given to President Reagan in 1982.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/ron-paul-wins-lifetime-achievement-award-for-charity-involvement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mckp-JQzfS0

I'd do it but I didn't watch the show so I can't place it in proper context and I need to go do some family stuff.

[Nic]

billoreilly.com/poll-center

Poll on whether Ron Paul has a chance. We might as well do it. Copy/paste the link.

[JVParkour]

Voted

[freshjiva]

Meh. I like Stossel, but he always gets flattened by O'Reilly. Maybe thats why he loves having Stossel on his show. He's too easily defeated.

1) He should've corrected Bill when he called Ron an isolationist;
2) His supporters staged the very first Tea Party in Boston in December of 2007, which grew into a nationwide sensation;
3) Ron got 4th place in 2008, with 1.2 million primary votes, and that was BEFORE the Tea Party elevated the debt as the #1 priority
4) His son Rand was elected to the Senate - like father like son.

Seriously, not to sound egotistic, but I feel like I'd do a far better job debating O'Reilly than Stossel can.

[Michael Landon]

billoreilly.com/poll-center

Poll on whether Ron Paul has a chance. We might as well do it. Copy/paste the link.

Did you notice that they split the vote with their options?

1) Is Trump right and Paul is too extreme? 2) Paul has the same chance as Obama did 4 years ago. 3) President Paul should start measing the White House drapes.

How many of us are going to vote for 2, which I did because it's the most realistic, and how many of us are going to vote for 3 because we want him to be President Paul? I noticed that the Trump answer has 45%, while 2 had 27% and 3 had 26%.

If we want to win this poll then we will need to decide which answer is the one for everyone to vote on, #2 or #3.

- ML

[Inkblots]

Stossel's preemptive response (http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2011/02/15/bill-o%e2%80%99reilly-vs-ron-paul/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter):

John Stossel is a good man. His heart is in the right place.

[Legend1104]

Good job Stossel. I don't think he flattened him. He is always forced to have an intelligent debate on these issues with stossel around.

[Brett85]

He would have lost last time around since Ron won Nevada.

I thought Ron got second in Nevada?

[Texan4Life]

Good job Stossel. I don't think he flattened him. He is always forced to have an intelligent debate on these issues with stossel around.

+1 and bill didnt even really do that he just changed the subject

[anaconda]

People continue to live in denial about the impact on the GOP of a threatened Ron Paul 3rd Party run. This should be the preliminary conversation. Stossel should have made this point. Then the power of Ron Paul to shape platform becomes significant and highly relevant, even without getting into whether Ron can win the GOP nomination. Even for a pinhead like O'Reilly.

[kahless]

"In some ways, he’s a big government guy" -- Stossel

Probably the first time anyone at FNC has actually said what O'Reilly actually is.

[specsaregood]

I thought Ron got second in Nevada?

He got 2nd in the caucus, but he actually won the delegates at the convention. The GOP broke the law to prevent it --by halting the convention -- a judge ruled a year later than Ron actually won all the delegates.

[Liberty_Mike]

I thought Ron got second in Nevada?

He did. Mitt Romney came in first with around 50% of the vote. Paul came in second, and when Fox News showed the results, they skipped on showing Ron Paul's name in the second place spot!