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doodle
02-14-2011, 02:32 PM
If he is put in prison for his opposition to Obama government, waterboarded and then asked again which is worse news, oppressive dictators who torture political opponents or democracy, would he change his view?


February 12, 2011 2:12 PM
John Bolton: Egyptian Democracy May be Bad News


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20031648-503544.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Petar
02-14-2011, 02:35 PM
In a way he is right, because there is nothing in a pure democracy that necessarily protects against oppressive regimes.

For that you need a constitutional republic that is geared towards the protection of individual rights.

lester1/2jr
02-14-2011, 02:38 PM
Yet all they ever talk about is how liberal democracy must come to Iran.

V4Vendetta
02-14-2011, 02:38 PM
question: When the worlds superpower has invaded, occupied, and pissed off 80% of the Muslim world.... what happens when the populations of those nations overthrow their government....?

Vote to start was against Israel and U.S.

Bolton is right....

Stary Hickory
02-14-2011, 02:42 PM
Well yeah pure Democracy is nothing different from any kind of rule in the past. Even the most despicable dictators enjoy popular support....or they don't dictate.

Hell American Democracy was a bad idea. We need limits on what people can do using government force, that is key. I don't hold out much hope for Egypt, they want freedom but they don't understand what it is.

fisharmor
02-14-2011, 02:44 PM
I actually heard this exact argument coming out of a religious podcast two days ago, too.
One that was supposed to be relatively clean.
Some days I don't know which is more stupefying -
that they can say this horseshit with a straight face,
or that they actually expect us to believe it.

mczerone
02-14-2011, 02:52 PM
10 years of John Bolton (tool) saying that "we must spread democracy", now he expects people to believe that there's a downside?

So, for the score card, according to Bolton: Theocracy/Monarchy/Oligarchy = bad, Military rule = bad, Anarchy = OMGWTF, Democracy = bad.

So here's Bolton's new talking point: Everything may have a downside unless my benefactors are given total control.

doodle
02-14-2011, 03:16 PM
In a way he is right, because there is nothing in a pure democracy that necessarily protects against oppressive regimes.

For that you need a constitutional republic that is geared towards the protection of individual rights.

Like the Americans rights are being protected today in the republic we have now?

Fredom101
02-14-2011, 03:21 PM
You mean Mob Rule is BAD? The Horror!

ItsTime
02-14-2011, 03:32 PM
Democracy is bad news anywhere. It is tyranny by mob rule.

Sola_Fide
02-14-2011, 03:33 PM
10 years of John Bolton (tool) saying that "we must spread democracy", now he expects people to believe that there's a downside?
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Lolololol true^^^

doodle
02-14-2011, 03:34 PM
Democracy is bad news anywhere. It is tyranny by mob rule.

Yet our leaders charge tax payers trillions of dollars for spreading democracy around the world.

Petar
02-14-2011, 07:13 PM
Like the Americans rights are being protected today in the republic we have now?

Yeah, sort of.

anaconda
02-14-2011, 07:15 PM
Hey Bolton unwittingly said something that is true. Now can he please go away forever?

HOLLYWOOD
02-14-2011, 07:20 PM
John Bolton is a FOX NEWS / NEWSCORP employee. He has no credibility, the only ones that agree with him are FOX/NEOCON pundits or warmongering ignorance.

Let's see how John Bolton faired overseas in dialog and a snapshot of Bolton's "Terror of Democracy":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlbAxzp0cEE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuqNWG9sbuE