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sailingaway
02-13-2011, 04:54 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sen-lindsey-graham-obama-is-beatable-but-who-can-do-it-has-yet-to-emerge/

I particularly like this part:
The only potential candidate Graham specifically called out was Congressman Ron Paul, who he described as “well-organized” and with a ton of energy behind his ideas, but doubted his ability to actually win. Although, given that the moderate Graham is not a favorite amongst conservatives or Tea Party members, it’s likely no candidate in a Republican primary would really care what he thinks.

Sola_Fide
02-13-2011, 04:57 PM
Hahaha

itshappening
02-13-2011, 05:16 PM
notice he has gone from: "Ron Paul can't win the GOP nomination" to "Ron Paul can't beat Obama", next he'll be saying "Yes President Paul, I will co-sponsor your legislation in the senate"

sailingaway
02-13-2011, 06:10 PM
And he's gone from trashing Ron to at least saying there 'is a lot of energy behind his ideas'..... tactful indeed next to his older statements.

itshappening
02-13-2011, 08:13 PM
Lindsey is a butt kisser looking over his shoulder, it will kill him to suck up to Ron but notice the process is starting

I have noticed a lot of commentators are saying the same thing, that if Ron was the GOP nominee he would lose to Nobama... Not that he can't win the GOP nod, the seeping realization and changing of the narrative from "long shot" as he demonstrates he's actually a major player in this process

sailingaway
02-13-2011, 08:18 PM
Too bad for them the head to head race is where Ron really shines... with independents.

itshappening
02-13-2011, 08:22 PM
If Ron wins 2 from Iowa, SC and NH he is going to be the nominee.

Professional butt kissers like Lindsey are starting to sense this to be the case.

Now they will argue he will lose against Nobama if this happens. Like that doesn't apply, even more so, to our main establishment rival Mitt Romney.

And yes, Ron does very well with indies and is the only one who can build a coalition of voters to defeat Obama.

If we play this right and organize we will be too strong for them and their attacks

AtomiC
02-13-2011, 08:29 PM
Dont they get it yet?

Ron Paul is the only person that can beat Obama.

Koz
02-13-2011, 08:43 PM
No, they don't get it and probably never will.

Eric21ND
02-14-2011, 02:44 AM
Too bad for them the head to head race is where Ron really shines... with independents.
Yes exactly my thinking on the matter. Ron Paul in the general election is a huge X-factor. His appeal is so broad he would pull off independents and disenchanted liberals in droves. He's also be a player and probable favorite in battle ground states and even some more liberal leaning states, such as Washington, Oregon, and the New England states. His anti-war rhetoric and libertarian message would get a lot of play in those states.

Eric21ND
02-14-2011, 02:46 AM
If Ron wins 2 from Iowa, SC and NH he is going to be the nominee.

Professional butt kissers like Lindsey are starting to sense this to be the case.

Now they will argue he will lose against Nobama if this happens. Like that doesn't apply, even more so, to our main establishment rival Mitt Romney.

And yes, Ron does very well with indies and is the only one who can build a coalition of voters to defeat Obama.

If we play this right and organize we will be too strong for them and their attacks
I agree. We need a huge war chest out of the gate to be taken seriously. Upwards of $10 million in the first month of his announcment would suffice.

hugolp
02-14-2011, 03:01 AM
Dont they get it yet?

Ron Paul is the only person that can beat Obama.


No, they don't get it and probably never will.

They know it. Its not like they are stupid.

The neocons prefer a second Obama term than Ron Paul president.

Matt Collins
02-14-2011, 10:49 AM
Jack Hunter has some great Youtube videos of Lindsey Graham on his channel. They are worth watching.

HOLLYWOOD
02-14-2011, 11:43 AM
2014 should be full onslaught of taking Lindsey Graham outta office. That means preparation to a real candidate for the GOP Primaries well in advance.

Suzu
02-14-2011, 03:33 PM
If Ron wins 2 from Iowa, SC and NH he is going to be the nominee.

Professional butt kissers like Lindsey are starting to sense this to be the case.

Now they will argue he will lose against Nobama if this happens. Like that doesn't apply, even more so, to our main establishment rival Mitt Romney.

And yes, Ron does very well with indies and is the only one who can build a coalition of voters to defeat Obama.

If we play this right and organize we will be too strong for them and their attacks


I totally agree. Now, you ought to be getting -rep from Wren if my theory is correct and Wren reads your post.

georgiaboy
02-14-2011, 04:31 PM
Dont they get it yet?

Ron Paul is the only person that can beat Obama.

exactly.

rank n file Obama supporters still want the military draw downs, and are nervous about the economy. The timing for Ron is, well, perfect.

anaconda
02-14-2011, 06:26 PM
And he's gone from trashing Ron to at least saying there 'is a lot of energy behind his ideas'..... tactful indeed next to his older statements.

He complimented Paul's ideology saying his ideas had "a lot of energy." A centrist cannot win the general election. So people like Ronmey are out. The way to pick up independents and Dems and also get the conservative vote is with a bona fide libertarian. there's only two of them. They both have the same last name.

AJ Antimony
02-14-2011, 06:58 PM
He's in campaign mode. He saw what the Tea Party can do and he doesn't want to be next.

Freedom 4 all
02-14-2011, 07:27 PM
notice he has gone from: "Ron Paul can't win the GOP nomination" to "Ron Paul can't beat Obama", next he'll be saying "Yes President Paul, I will co-sponsor your legislation in the senate"

Honestly if RP wins the nomination I'd say he has an excellent chance at the presidency. He owns indepenents, libertarians, and a good deal of the kind of democrat who cares more about anti-war than government entitlements. And the brilliant part is that Republicans who don't like him (ex. Hannity) would have to support him because they bashed Obama even harder all these years.

itshappening
02-14-2011, 07:35 PM
for me it all comes down to Iowa

Drew Ivers and the CFL need a massive effort in Iowa

The so called live free and die state is a neocon hellhole, they voted for McCain and establishment hack Ayotte so unless the free staters can pull it off i dont hold out much hope. Romney will probably win it

SC is a different matter. if we get Sanford on board and Hayley plus Romney isnt much liked, SC;s choice will be Romney or Paul and I bet they go for Paul

then we're well on our way for the nomination

Make no mistake, Iowa is where its at for us. we can pull it off in a caucus environment and shock the nation, blowing all the other potential and lesser known candidates out of the water and framing the rest of the election as Romney v. Paul, Paul will win the south and take the Nomination.

We cannot screw up Iowa. Iowa is massive and "Ron Paul" ads need to be playing constantly for months in that state on radio and tv, plus pot shots at mittens and Romneycare.

we can do this, i know we can.

KramerDSP
02-14-2011, 11:37 PM
If Ron wins 2 from Iowa, SC and NH he is going to be the nominee.

Professional butt kissers like Lindsey are starting to sense this to be the case.

Now they will argue he will lose against Nobama if this happens. Like that doesn't apply, even more so, to our main establishment rival Mitt Romney.

And yes, Ron does very well with indies and is the only one who can build a coalition of voters to defeat Obama.

If we play this right and organize we will be too strong for them and their attacks

Just look at the comments from the Independents and those on the Left posted on mainstream media news articles about Ron in the last few days. I posted this elsewhere, but it is worth reposting again, with a few more quotes. It's amazing how high his profile is now.


Phunktified 7 hours ago Report Abuse

I have, for all my life, been what would be described as a liberal. I have never voted for a Republican. However, Ron Paul transcends political party. He is the preeminent defender of the Constitution in Washington. He understands that we are living the reality that Thomas Jefferson warned us of:

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency... the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered".

If Ron Paul does indeed run for president I will vote for him, because I don't consider any one else I've seen worthy of my vote.
Aruja 8 hours ago Report Abuse

I have never voted for a Republican in all my forty years of voting. However, I seem to agree on most of Ron Paul's positions, so I would consider voting for him. I doubt that the Republicans would nominate him, because he will not kiss the rear ends of the neo-conservatives.
TeeMann 9 hours ago Report Abuse

I am a Democrat and I can tell you that Ron Paul is the only viable Republican candidate I would consider voting for. I share his isolationist ideals that we should go back to.......way too many countries are spreading us out thin and depleting our resources.....and for what? For the cost of American lives, money that we cant spend domestically, and in the end we hardly get the appreciation. I can also see him delivering in Tax reform, push back on lobbyists and interest groups, and he is the only person that I've seen who truly upholds the constitution. It took courage to say that the muslim organization have the right to build a mosque four blocks from ground zero without agreeing they are right to do so......and that is what believing in our freedoms really is; supporting the freedom of speech even when we don't agree with the message.

Gary 8 hours ago Report Abuse

I'm a democrat, and I have to say that I kinda like and respect Ron Paul. I like the fact that he doesn't feel the need (like most politicians) to say what is popular to get elected and he's not afraid to go against his own party. More power to him. We need more politicians (democrat and republican) like him. matt 8 hours ago Report Abuse I am a democrat and I feel the same way Gary. Ron isn't like other politicians. I don't believe he is bought and paid for that is for sure. How do you think he would be as president though? JFK esque? Probably get assassinated for not following the rules of the shadow government...
Wallace 9 hours ago Report Abuse

I usually vote Dem but would strongly consider Ron Paul. Guy is making a lot of sense.
Tim 8 hours ago Report Abuse

I'm another Liberal that would consider crossing the line for Ron Paul. He just needs to explain how we SAFELY cut foreign aid and the military. Let's not forget, he can't make the cuts...only recommend them to Congress...so we need a whole slate of budget cutters whether Republican or Democrat to go with him.

Censored 3 hours ago Report Abuse

Ron Paul 2012. But I would encourage the Paul camp to drop the "Revolution/Love" crap this time around. Paul has my vote if he runs.

I love the fact that Palin was in the single digits, its about time people figured out she is an idiot. Palin runninng would only ensure an Obama win!

MICHAEL 7 hours ago Report Abuse

Even though I'm not a republican, I would favor Paul over O'Bama or any other candidate they put up. Some of his ideas seem radical, yet he has the moxy to get things done. All in all he favors far more American values than any of these other idiots.


As someone who leans on the left, Ron Paul would be the *only* republican that would make me switch sides to vote for.

And this is my favorite:


Groucho-2941970
I disagree with many of Ron Paul's domestic policy ideas, but his analysis of our foreign policy is spot on, and he is the only person I have heard on either side of the aisle who would take on the military-industrial complex. Our country has become a plutocracy, run by the rich for the rich. The Republican Party is, in its current state, simply a tentacle of Wall Street. Unfortunately the Dems are not much better, many of them having sold out to the corporatocracy in order to keep themselves in office. I had high hopes for Pres. Obama, but he surrounded himself with many of the same people who advised Clinton, and that amounted to putting the foxes back in charge of the hen house. The President is also a man who is willing to compromise on most everything, sometimes a good quality but not on all things. As commander-in-chief Ron Paul would be able to effect changes to military policy without having to answer to Congress. All of those fat cat contracts to private corportations might come to a screeching halt, and that would be a very good thing, and that might just be the beginning. The sad thing is that it will never happen. When Faux News won't even let you participate in the Republican debate it was sponsoring ( Remember the 2008 debate where Sean Hannity had to flee from the outraged Paul supporters into the building where he 'moderated' the debate between the 'serious' Republican candidates) you know the system is rigged against you. As a very left leaning voter who believes in such truly socialistic ideas such as universal health care, it shocks me to write this, but the truth is that a Ron Paul Presidency might be the best thing that could happen to this country.

Ron Paul can actually win. And he will win, if we make the message as appealing as possible to wide swaths across the spectrum.