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RonPaulFanInGA
02-13-2011, 09:31 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356567/Hes-Sarah-Palin--Liberal-GOP-Congressman-Ron-Paul-Republican-partys-surprise-choice-2012.html


He's no Sarah Palin... Liberal GOP Congressman Ron Paul becomes conservatives' surprise top choice for 2012

For real?

rolle
02-13-2011, 09:35 AM
Maybe he needs a dictionary?

bwlibertyman
02-13-2011, 09:38 AM
I'm assuming they think liberal means anti war.

sailingaway
02-13-2011, 09:40 AM
Actually, sometimes the British use liberal for classic liberal, but not usually, I agree. Maybe they haven't noticed the spending cut side?

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and there's that lemon sucking picture again....

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edit, no, they are just idiots, get a load of this:


The 75-year-old has said that he is against the stringent budget cuts put forward by his Tea Party contemporaries .....

FrankRep
02-13-2011, 09:41 AM
I'm assuming they think liberal means anti war.

That seems to be the Neocon viewpoint. You're anti-War? You must be a Liberal!


Example:


Ron Paul Expelled From YAF for Aligning Himself With the Radical Anti-War Left
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=130869

Unspun
02-13-2011, 09:42 AM
Eh, better than conservative.

Chester Copperpot
02-13-2011, 09:43 AM
Seems like an attempt to villify him via association as 'liberal' since the tainting of 'libertarian' from several years ago didnt seem to work

lester1/2jr
02-13-2011, 10:21 AM
lol

wormyguy
02-13-2011, 10:24 AM
the 75-year-old has said that he is against the stringent budget cuts put forward by his tea party contemporaries

wtf?

Brooklyn Red Leg
02-13-2011, 10:32 AM
wtf?

Yea, that was my reaction as well.

leonster
02-13-2011, 10:36 AM
Anyone want to try setting them straight with a polite comment?

Remember, this is a UK website, so perhaps we should be a bit more forgiving since they may not really know the particulars of American politics.

lester1/2jr
02-13-2011, 10:44 AM
makes you wonder how off the mark our press is about foreign stuff (guess: very)

Original_Intent
02-13-2011, 10:54 AM
Looks like they are somewhere around National Enquirer for accuracy or relevance.

JohnEngland
02-13-2011, 11:04 AM
Yeah, the Daily Mail isn't a source people should rely on for accuracy. Heck, even the supposed accurate ones are poor.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if all British newspapers went behind a paywall, just so that I could rest better in the knowledge that fewer people would be viewing their trash.

__27__
02-13-2011, 11:20 AM
Wow, superbly bad. If you're going to write a story on it, you could probably at lease spend 10 minutes on google before you post it, right?

Inkblots
02-13-2011, 11:34 AM
I submitted a comment earlier, but it never showed up. Perhaps it has been moderated into non-existence. Here's what I said:

This is possibly the most uninformed, poorly researched article on American politics I have seen in some time. The only sort of 'liberalism' you can attribute to Ron Paul is classical liberalism - i.e., libertarianism. He is widely regarded as the most conservative member of the House. Furthermore, the statement "The 75-year-old has said that he is against the stringent budget cuts put forward by his Tea Party contemporaries" is flat-out false. He has said that the budget cuts proposed by the GOP leadership in Congress are far TOO SMALL. And as to his support of the Tea Party, his 2008 campaign is widely acknowledged as kicking off the modern Tea Party movement with their Tea Party rally and fundraiser in December 2007. And I'm not even going to bother criticizing the carefully chosen photo in this article, intended to make Ron Paul look as bad as possible.

This article is an embarrassment. Is this what the DM calls reporting?

Anti Federalist
02-13-2011, 11:35 AM
The Daily Fail strikes again.

Valli6
02-13-2011, 11:56 AM
Anyone want to try setting them straight with a polite comment?

I went through all the registration crap so I also could submit a comment, but it hasn't shown up. It keeps showing "0 comments". :confused:

Ron Paul can be considered a "liberal" in the classical sense only! This is very different from what "liberal" has come to mean in modern America. Modern "liberals" support authoritarianism and government force as long as it suits their needs! A classical liberal or "libertarian" does NOT! - Personal liberty comes first!

Currently, a more accurate description for Ron Paul is "libertarian". This 30 year "Champion of the Constitution" is the most consistent, principled man in DC! He supports fiscal conservatism and non-interventionism (free trade with all but mind our own business! Strong defense only when necessary!)

While the establishment fears and marginalizes him, in 2007 he began to ignite brushfires in America's youth, independents and liberty lovers around the world. The movement has gained much strength since that time! Learn about Dr Ron Paul - He'll cure your apathy!

Chieppa1
02-13-2011, 12:19 PM
If they want to go the "liberal" equals "anti-war" route...why don't we just talk about the military service of the major GOP candidates. From top to bottom. Go!

RonPaulCult
02-13-2011, 12:31 PM
They have no idea what they just got themselves into. They are going to get HAMMERED with hate mail hahaha

Jack Bauer
02-13-2011, 01:09 PM
There's a reason its called the Daily Fail.

micahnelson
02-13-2011, 02:00 PM
From a British perspective, Ron Paul is a liberal. Liberal means individual liberties trumps all other interests- all things being equal. Do not confuse this with the dirty L word in american politics.

JohnEngland
02-13-2011, 02:42 PM
From a British perspective, Ron Paul is a liberal. Liberal means individual liberties trumps all other interests- all things being equal. Do not confuse this with the dirty L word in american politics.

This is the interesting thing about how words have become distorted. If we take "liberal" in its proper meaning, then CPAC, for example, was full of economic liberals, though "liberal" in America is wrongly associated with the socialist-leaning folk.

In Britain, "liberal" has kept a better understanding of the proper meaning, but it's still badly abused. Take the Liberal Democrat party (currently in coalition power with the Conservative party). They are anything but liberal - they want to control the economy, your education and your healthcare but, of course, they want you to be allowed to kill unborn children, obviously... :rolleyes:

johnrocks
02-13-2011, 02:47 PM
The neo cons and social nanny supporters have redefined the very word conservative and it is up to the libertarian/paleo conservative coalition to get it back!

BuddyRey
02-13-2011, 02:48 PM
"Liberal" has a completely different meaning outside of the U.S. (the meaning it used to have here until roughly the FDR years). In Europe, "liberal" = laissez-faire.

Brian4Liberty
02-13-2011, 03:02 PM
Anyone want to try setting them straight with a polite comment?

Remember, this is a UK website, so perhaps we should be a bit more forgiving since they may not really know the particulars of American politics.


From a British perspective, Ron Paul is a liberal. Liberal means individual liberties trumps all other interests- all things being equal. Do not confuse this with the dirty L word in american politics.

Yeah, to the British, Ron Paul is a pesky liberal in the same vein as Thomas Jefferson... ;)

emazur
02-13-2011, 03:26 PM
From a British perspective, Ron Paul is a liberal. Liberal means individual liberties trumps all other interests- all things being equal. Do not confuse this with the dirty L word in american politics.

Why is Daniel Hannan's party called the Conservative Party?

devil21
02-13-2011, 07:11 PM
The media is just going to start making stuff up about Ron Paul. Other than the newsletters, there's literally nothing else to smear him with. His closet is free of skeletons. Their solution? Just flat out lie. Ron Paul opposes budget cuts? Since when?

FrankRep
02-13-2011, 07:43 PM
Reminds me of this video.


Behind The Big News: Can we Trust the Mainstream Media?

http://www.vimeo.com/9781449

skyorbit
02-13-2011, 08:07 PM
He was against them because they're "microscopic budget cuts."

Tracy

Dr.3D
02-13-2011, 08:42 PM
Reminds me of this video.


Behind The Big News: Can we Trust the Mainstream Media?

I have that video on DVD and have watched it several times. What is interesting is that one night I was watching the news and they had the same exact footage of the people reaching through the barbed wire as is in this video. I found it interesting that they would continue to use this manufactured stock video for more than one "news" (propaganda) broadcast.

wormyguy
02-13-2011, 09:27 PM
From a British perspective, Ron Paul is a liberal. Liberal means individual liberties trumps all other interests- all things being equal. Do not confuse this with the dirty L word in american politics.

Actually the word "liberal" has begun to take up its US meaning in the UK (especially in right-wing tabloids such as the Daily Mail).

Anyways, they got rid of that one but managed to replace it with one equally false:


Mr Paul ran for the Republican ticket to the White House in 2008 but came in last place as his liberal message fell flat with many voters.

"Mr. Paul" "liberal message" "last place"

I think they're deliberately trying to antagonize us. Don't feed them.

Tal
02-13-2011, 09:46 PM
Wow what a hit-piece, they are painting him as if he is some sort of RINO.

The pictures also reveal their bias, they got a pretty weird looking picture of Ron and the picture of the young people cheering for him looks pretty skewed also, they intentionally picked the picture with someone with his hands around his mouth, yelling, since that makes this crowd look ''unprofessional'' and not academic.
Then later they have a picture with Donald Trump where looks really cool and the line under it insinuates that the convention is full of Al Gore lovers (aka Democrats).

Edit: Im curious for an update on the people posting comments there, im interested in knowing if they are really cowardly enough to censor these comments permanently.

Matt Collins
02-14-2011, 11:42 AM
They had to use the worst pic they could get too...






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