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Kludge
02-12-2011, 09:12 PM
Could someone fill me in on how the MSM is spinning this and how much airtime it is receiving, preferably with some type of analysis per major station (MSNBC, CNN, FNC)?

Would also be interesting to hear if your local paper covers it on/by Sunday edition.

kah13176
02-12-2011, 09:47 PM
Fox is the only one as far as I know that gave it any "serious" air time. I think the others were preoccupied with Egypt.

Johnnybags
02-12-2011, 09:54 PM
Ron won but he paid all the supporters to show up and anyone but Ron is a better candidate. Same ole song and dance. Mitt Romney is GOD! Huckabee is Holy Spirit and Newt is Jesus H Christ himself. Of course Sarah is the Virgin Mary. HTF can you expect anything different since our media is actually worse than State run Egyptian media!

kah13176
02-12-2011, 09:58 PM
Ron won but he paid all the supporters to show up and anyone but Ron is a better candidate. Same ole song and dance. Mitt Romney is GOD! Huckabee is Holy Spirit and Newt is Jesus H Christ himself. Of course Sarah is the Virgin Mary. HTF can you expect anything different since our media is actually worse than State run Egyptian media!

By "Ron", I'm assuming you're referring to the kooky martian nutjob.

Matt Collins
02-12-2011, 11:42 PM
Only the politicos are paying attention. And on Saturday night no one cares. It'll be discussed on talk radio and on FNC for a day or two next week, and then it'll largely fizzle. This is only an exercise in showing our teeth to the political establishment.

wormyguy
02-12-2011, 11:59 PM
Most articles:

Ron Paul won the straw poll. Straw poll usually doesn't pick winner. Random Paul supporter quoted as saying this may mean his ideas are becoming more mainstream. Thomas DiLorenzo.

KramerDSP
02-13-2011, 12:02 AM
One out of every two mainstream media articles on the CPAC win either use the term "isolationist" and/or "not a viable candidate" who has a "loyal following".

However, I will say that the comments from all across the political spectrum (Fox, MSNBC, Huffington, etc.) are vastly different than they were in 2007. In 2007, the comments were dismissive and insulting (basement spammers). Now? When you ignore the pro-Paul posts, you see far more respect and a tinge of fearfulness from those who are critical of him. The commentators who appear to be Independents are often 4 out of 5 times positive about him and say that he's got their votes.

Guiliani skyrocketed Ron Paul to the national stage with the infamous fight over 9-11.

Trump, as one commentator beautifully put it, may just have unintentionally revealed who the next President of the United States was going to be when he made his comments about Paul being unelectable. This news, in combination with his back-to-back CPAC Straw Poll wins and the scene with Cheney-Rumsfeld vs. RP Supporters, has skyrocketed Ron Paul even further into the stratosphere. I would suggest there is virtually no question at this point that he is now a household name.

Before the CPAC 2011 events and Trump, etc., Paul's name recogniton was at the 70-80% range. I wouldn't be surprised if he was just a shade under 90% within a month or so. The national conversation on the blogs has changed from "Ron Paul is a joke" to "Ron Paul isn't electable, is he?... Well....Fine, what would happen in a Paul administration? I mean...". People are starting to entertain the possibility of Ron actually being President. I wonder if he's at the same recogniton level as Ross Perot was shortly during the beginning stages of his first Presidental run.

I believe we can actually do this. I believe Ron Paul will ride a groundswell of momentum that will take him all the way to the White House. It'll be hell at times, and euphoric at others, but I just sense something special in the midst.

low preference guy
02-13-2011, 12:07 AM
Trump, as one commentator beautifully put it, may just have unintentionally revealed who the next President of the United States was going to be when he made his comments about Paul being unelectable.

haha! which commentator is that?

Austrian Econ Disciple
02-13-2011, 12:15 AM
One out of every two mainstream media articles on the CPAC win either use the term "isolationist" and/or "not a viable candidate" who has a "loyal following".

However, I will say that the comments from all across the political spectrum (Fox, MSNBC, Huffington, etc.) are vastly different than they were in 2007. In 2007, the comments were dismissive and insulting (basement spammers). Now? When you ignore the pro-Paul posts, you see far more respect and a tinge of fearfulness from those who are critical of him. The commentators who appear to be Independents are often 4 out of 5 times positive about him and say that he's got their votes.

Guiliani skyrocketed Ron Paul to the national stage with the infamous fight over 9-11.

Trump, as one commentator beautifully put it, may just have unintentionally revealed who the next President of the United States was going to be when he made his comments about Paul being unelectable. This news, in combination with his back-to-back CPAC Straw Poll wins and the scene with Cheney-Rumsfeld vs. RP Supporters, has skyrocketed Ron Paul even further into the stratosphere. I would suggest there is virtually no question at this point that he is now a household name.

Before the CPAC 2011 events and Trump, etc., Paul's name recogniton was at the 70-80% range. I wouldn't be surprised if he was just a shade under 90% within a month or so. The national conversation on the blogs has changed from "Ron Paul is a joke" to "Ron Paul isn't electable, is he?... Well....Fine, what would happen in a Paul administration? I mean...". People are starting to entertain the possibility of Ron actually being President. I wonder if he's at the same recogniton level as Ross Perot was shortly during the beginning stages of his first Presidental run.

I believe we can actually do this. I believe Ron Paul will ride a groundswell of momentum that will take him all the way to the White House. It'll be hell at times, and euphoric at others, but I just sense something special in the midst.

If this turns out to be the case:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j45x9ranFH0

KramerDSP
02-13-2011, 12:17 AM
haha! which commentator is that?

This came from The Hill - Ron Paul Slams Patriot Act (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/143605-ron-paul-slams-patriot-act-backers-drown-out-jeers-at-cpac?page=2)

Without knowing it, Trump told us who will be the next President. It is evident he received a speaking spot at the last minute and was put forth to challenge. He certainly let on to who the establishment Republicans are worried over! And YES! They would be right to worry.
BY Galveston Tea on 02/11/2011 at 18:16

KramerDSP
02-13-2011, 12:39 AM
Here's an example of a plethora of positive comments from those that aren't neccesarily Paul supporters, per se.


Groucho-2941970
I disagree with many of Ron Paul's domestic policy ideas, but his analysis of our foreign policy is spot on, and he is the only person I have heard on either side of the aisle who would take on the military-industrial complex. Our country has become a plutocracy, run by the rich for the rich. The Republican Party is, in its current state, simply a tentacle of Wall Street. Unfortunately the Dems are not much better, many of them having sold out to the corporatocracy in order to keep themselves in office. I had high hopes for Pres. Obama, but he surrounded himself with many of the same people who advised Clinton, and that amounted to putting the foxes back in charge of the hen house. The President is also a man who is willing to compromise on most everything, sometimes a good quality but not on all things. As commander-in-chief Ron Paul would be able to effect changes to military policy without having to answer to Congress. All of those fat cat contracts to private corportations might come to a screeching halt, and that would be a very good thing, and that might just be the beginning. The sad thing is that it will never happen. When Faux News won't even let you participate in the Republican debate it was sponsoring ( Remember the 2008 debate where Sean Hannity had to flee from the outraged Paul supporters into the building where he 'moderated' the debate between the 'serious' Republican candidates) you know the system is rigged against you. As a very left leaning voter who believes in such truly socialistic ideas such as universal health care, it shocks me to write this, but the truth is that a Ron Paul Presidency might be the best thing that could happen to this country.

There's a boatload more of great comments at the MSNBC First Read article (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/02/12/6041419-ron-paul-wins-cpac-straw-poll-?pc=25&sp=75#discussion_nav).

KramerDSP
02-13-2011, 02:54 AM
More awesome quotes from the left:


Phunktified 7 hours ago Report Abuse

I have, for all my life, been what would be described as a liberal. I have never voted for a Republican. However, Ron Paul transcends political party. He is the preeminent defender of the Constitution in Washington. He understands that we are living the reality that Thomas Jefferson warned us of:

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency... the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered".

If Ron Paul does indeed run for president I will vote for him, because I don't consider any one else I've seen worthy of my vote.


Aruja 8 hours ago Report Abuse

I have never voted for a Republican in all my forty years of voting. However, I seem to agree on most of Ron Paul's positions, so I would consider voting for him. I doubt that the Republicans would nominate him, because he will not kiss the rear ends of the neo-conservatives.


TeeMann 9 hours ago Report Abuse

I am a Democrat and I can tell you that Ron Paul is the only viable Republican candidate I would consider voting for. I share his isolationist ideals that we should go back to.......way too many countries are spreading us out thin and depleting our resources.....and for what? For the cost of American lives, money that we cant spend domestically, and in the end we hardly get the appreciation. I can also see him delivering in Tax reform, push back on lobbyists and interest groups, and he is the only person that I've seen who truly upholds the constitution. It took courage to say that the muslim organization have the right to build a mosque four blocks from ground zero without agreeing they are right to do so......and that is what believing in our freedoms really is; supporting the freedom of speech even when we don't agree with the message.



Gary 8 hours ago Report Abuse

I'm a democrat, and I have to say that I kinda like and respect Ron Paul. I like the fact that he doesn't feel the need (like most politicians) to say what is popular to get elected and he's not afraid to go against his own party. More power to him. We need more politicians (democrat and republican) like him.
matt 8 hours ago Report Abuse I am a democrat and I feel the same way Gary. Ron isn't like other politicians. I don't believe he is bought and paid for that is for sure. How do you think he would be as president though? JFK esque? Probably get assassinated for not following the rules of the shadow government...


Wallace 9 hours ago Report Abuse

I usually vote Dem but would strongly consider Ron Paul. Guy is making a lot of sense.


Tim 8 hours ago Report Abuse

I'm another Liberal that would consider crossing the line for Ron Paul. He just needs to explain how we SAFELY cut foreign aid and the military. Let's not forget, he can't make the cuts...only recommend them to Congress...so we need a whole slate of budget cutters whether Republican or Democrat to go with him.


Censored 3 hours ago Report Abuse

Ron Paul 2012. But I would encourage the Paul camp to drop the "Revolution/Love" crap this time around. Paul has my vote if he runs.

I love the fact that Palin was in the single digits, its about time people figured out she is an idiot. Palin runninng would only ensure an Obama win!


MICHAEL 7 hours ago Report Abuse

Even though I'm not a republican, I would favor Paul over O'Bama or any other candidate they put up. Some of his ideas seem radical, yet he has the moxy to get things done. All in all he favors far more American values than any of these other idiots.

I'm telling you all, something is in the air. We're all fed up, and there's a smidgen of Egypt coming over here where we're collectively realizing that the game is rigged. I'm not saying everyone woke up, but the comments are far more favorable. Paul is the perfect cross-party candidate because he is above the fray.

tangent4ronpaul
02-13-2011, 04:22 AM
You may have a point about Egypt. If a few more dominoes fall in the Middle East, that along with the WikiLeaks releases and actions by Anonymous may have a tremendous effect on the 2012 election.

I also think GOProud being at CPAC and our side booing Runsfield and Chenney is largely responsible for the very warm reception we are getting from the left right now.

I loved this quote:
"As a very left leaning voter who believes in such truly socialistic ideas such as universal health care, it shocks me to write this, but the truth is that a Ron Paul Presidency might be the best thing that could happen to this country. "

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Wren
02-13-2011, 04:36 AM
I've noticed a trend - it's usually the moderate left and right that convert to fresh new RP supporters. Perhaps it's because they still have some shred of reasoning left and can figure out their priorties. It's usually the extremists that make up the majority of the left-wing (daily kos) or right-wing (freepers) websites.

oyarde
02-13-2011, 02:14 PM
I've noticed a trend - it's usually the moderate left and right that convert to fresh new RP supporters. Perhaps it's because they still have some shred of reasoning left and can figure out their priorties. It's usually the extremists that make up the majority of the left-wing (daily kos) or right-wing (freepers) websites.

Interesting ..... you make a valid point . People have to be able to be somewhat open minded and logical.