Ron Paul vs. Donald Trump

[Flash]

So howcome the Ron Paul supporters were acting like fucking maniacs in the audience while Trump was speaking?? We were warned before hand specifically not to do this. I walked in on the middle of the speech, did Trump provoke this attack by verbally attacking Ron Paul?

[robertwerden]

Trump just insulted Ron Paul. FUCK TRUMP!!!!!!!!!

[Kludge]

Trump said RP has no chance of winning.

[specsaregood]

Trump talking about how to prevent bankruptcy is quite the laugh.

[hillertexas]

Fuck the Trump!

[Brian4Liberty]

People shouted "Ron Paul", and it gave Trump an opportunity to "give his opinion".

People could have shouted "Mitt Romney" or "Sarah Palin", but they didn't.

[Kludge]

Trump talking about how to prevent bankruptcy is quite the laugh.
Haha, good point. Even better, he chose to phrase replacing Obamacare as putting in something "that makes sense for businesses."

[Flash]

Well yeah.. I saw the beginning of the speech and people kept shouting Ron Paul. This was before Trump even said anything. Then I come back and the camera is zoomed in on RP supporters going nuts.

[Kludge]

Well yeah.. I saw the beginning of the speech and people kept shouting Ron Paul. This was before Trump even said anything. Then I come back and the camera is zoomed in on RP supporters going nuts.
Not sure. Maybe were psyched and impatient because Rand was supposed to go after NRA CEO, not Trump (Trump & NRA guy switched places).

[ClayTrainor]

lol, Trump... what is this, a reality TV show?

[Mrs.Joe]

He said "RP will NOT get elected" so yea, he provoked.....and was an asshole about it.

[Liberty_Mike]

Well yeah.. I saw the beginning of the speech and people kept shouting Ron Paul. This was before Trump even said anything. Then I come back and the camera is zoomed in on RP supporters going nuts.

Yeah, unfortunately that's what I think happened too. But I'm listening to the audio on CSPAN right now so I'm not positive. The RP crowd really needs to shut up unless they are attacked first!

[Chieppa1]

Rand Paul should start his speech with: "Just to clear the air, Donald Trump will NOT be elected".

[Umbro2914]

Well you must have never been to a rp rally, because there's no other way to phrase this, some rp ppl here just can't control themselves. They're bored and Rand was supposed to be up. Yeah the booing was totally unnecessary, and it annoyed me, but whatchs gonna do!

[reduen]

Remember provocateurs people.....

[Chieppa1]

Well you must have never been to a rp rally, because there's no other way to phrase this, some rp ppl here just can't control themselves. They're bored and Rand was supposed to be up. Yeah the booing was totally unnecessary, and it annoyed me, but whatchs gonna do!

We've been waiting too long for our voices to be heard. Donald Trump deserves our respect?

[Flash]

Yeah, unfortunately that's what I think happened too. But I'm listening to the audio on CSPAN right now so I'm not positive. The RP crowd really needs to shut up unless they are attacked first!

I'm 100% positive that was what happened. I clearly kept hearing "Ron Paul" whenever Trump paused.


But anyways that was an AMAZING speech by Rand Paul.

[Liberty_Mike]

I'm 100% positive that was what happened. I clearly kept hearing "Ron Paul" whenever Trump paused.


But anyways that was an AMAZING speech by Rand Paul.

Yup, listen to the Ron Paul crowd yelling right now in the audience.

Great job guys, keep up the yelling and disrespect for other speakers. This will sure help gain a lot of credibility for the movement...

They are acting like a bunch of f-ing lunatics!

[SilentBull]

This really pisses me off! When are these people gonna grow up? Morons! All they are doing is hurting Ron's chances. Absolute fucking morons! Stay the fuck home and grow up; then come back and get involved with politics.

[SilentBull]

These guys have no idea what it takes to win. They just love shouting and complaining. How can you be smart enough to understand Austrian Economics but not smart enough to understand that this is not a good strategy! Idiots!

[reduen]

This really pisses me off! When are these people gonna grow up? Morons! All they are doing is hurting Ron's chances. Absolute fucking morons! Stay the fuck home and grow up; then come back and get involved with politics.

Go tell them about it anon... Take Liberty Mike with you...

[specsaregood]

Donald Trump deserves our respect?

Well you've got a point there.

[jct74]

Here is the video of the entire speech. Incident occurs @2:51:10.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/ConferenceCP

[georgiaboy]

Mr. Trump, you're fired?

[SilentBull]

I'm sure the ones yelling are the same ones that hated Rand Paul when he was running in the primary. They have no clue what it takes to actually advance our cause. They just like being rebels. If Ron Paul won the primary, they would still find something to complain about.

[Slutter McGee]

Glad to see Ron Paul supporters learned nothing from the last election. Looking forward to another loss.

Don't get me wrong. I love to see enthusiasm and excitement. But Paul supporters can't draw the line between excitment and idiocy.

Welcome to 2007.

Slutter McGee

[jct74]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_-0hMID67A

[Mrs.Joe]

Does anyone know if people got escorted out? It panned to the security like thats what they were planning on doing.

[Noob]

We all should shout out to Trump "YOUR FIRED!!"

[RonPaulFanInGA]

It really reflects poorly on Ron Paul that seemingly only his supporters behave like this. :rolleyes:

If you're going to act foolish in public and you're a Ron Paul supporter: at least wear a Mitt Romney for President T-Shirt.

[Kludge]

Does anyone know if people got escorted out? It panned to the security like thats what they were planning on doing.
Yes, I believe they were escorting at least one guy out.

[SilentBull]

I hope no one gave money to those morons to go there.

[Flash]

I hope no one gave money to those morons to go there.

Probably not. People on this forum were warned beforehand.

[RonPaulRules]

What happened, I missed it?

[specsaregood]

LOL @rumsfeld mocking the liberals that elected obama and obama being just like bush.

[Flash]

Let's not forget, out of all the potential 2012 candidates, Trump has been one of the nicest to Ron Paul. He even went as far as suggesting the elimination of the Federal Reserve. I don't agree with most of the guy's policies (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?278727-Trump-at-CPAC-points-to-White-House-run-in-2012&p=3102677#post3102677) but it was still inappropriate to treat him as an enemy.

[Flash]

Rand's speech was amazing. He could've won over the entire crowd with that speech and get them to recognize the necessity of a non-interventionist policy. But all of that could be ruined due to ron paul supporters boo'in Rumsfeld, Cheney, & Trump.

[matt0611]

Rand's speech was amazing. He could've won over the entire crowd with that speech and get them to recognize the necessity of a non-interventionist policy. But all of that could be ruined due to ron paul supporters boo'in Rumsfeld, Cheney, & Trump.

Damn idiots, ruining everything :(

[Mrs.Joe]

Rand's speech was amazing. He could've won over the entire crowd with that speech and get them to recognize the necessity of a non-interventionist policy. But all of that could be ruined due to ron paul supporters boo'in Rumsfeld, Cheney, & Trump.

I don't know, he got massive applause from the entire room not just the rp people. He did great and got a great response, maybe they will just remember the good :D

[rich34]

Guys, I know this may look bad, but I'm tellin ya, I guarantee the media is already calculating their risks of exposing this video to the nation. If the sheep see Trumps elitist fucking face when he says this and they circulate widely, it could very well back fire on them. I'm not saying this was a cool thing to do, but I am saying the MSM may not even tough due to Trump being seen as elitist and as Ron's supporters have said for years that the powers that be are against him. I'm betting right now this will have minimal impact because the MSM will not circulate this very widely. If so, imo, we'll come out of this in great shape!

[Slutter McGee]

Ron needs to publically shame his supporters. All of them. Me included. He has to get them under control before election season.

Slutter McGee

[SilentBull]

Ron needs to publically shame his supporters. All of them. Me included. He has to get them under control before election season.

Slutter McGee

That's actually not a bad idea. He should separate himself a little from the immature supporters.

[reduen]

Ron needs to publically shame his supporters. All of them. Me included. He has to get them under control before election season.

Slutter McGee

Guys/gals, I just watched the video and I have to say that this one was on Trump. He did not have to go there and he knew it. Someone should point out to him that Dr. Paul has been elected many more times than him......

[dannno]

Trump talking about how to prevent bankruptcy is quite the laugh.

:D

[dannno]

He should separate himself a little from the immature supporters.

Luckily for us he's not you.

[rich34]

Fuck Trump and let them circulate it, it'll back fire bigger than they could ever imagine! This will go no where and I'd bet money they won't let the country no about this or at least show the video of Trump's elitist face, if so Ron's popularity will go up..

[georgiaboy]

I don't know, he got massive applause from the entire room not just the rp people. He did great and got a great response, maybe they will just remember the good :D

Rand Paul - he's catchin' on, I'm tellin' ya!

[sailingaway]

I'm checking in on my son's laptop -- I can't read the whole thread now. But I read about this elsewhere. Are we sure they are OUR people, not people sent to blend in with ours and make Ron look bad? Also, remember that Student's for Liberty (the Kochs version of YAL) is essentially pushing GJohnson. Might some of this come from them, who didn't get Ron's request, or didn't care about Ron?

Also, did anyone tube Rand? I'm going to need to watch it tonight.

[Rothbardian Girl]

Trump is horrifying and a bully. I can't stand the guy. We'll see if this backfires, I guess.

[Immortal Technique]

Donald Chump will never be president !

[Slutter McGee]

Fuck Trump and let them circulate it, it'll back fire bigger than they could ever imagine! This will go no where and I'd bet money they won't let the country no about this or at least show the video of Trump's elitist face, if so Ron's popularity will go up..

Yeah his popularity might go up. But not among the Republican base. I don't have any issues with people booing Donald Trump, Dick Cheney, or Rumsfield. Under different circumstances I would applaud it. I do have a problem with it when it is in direct contrast to the wishes of the man they claim to represent, and when it could negatively affect that man's ability to get elected President.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[SilentBull]

Guys/gals, I just watched the video and I have to say that this one was on Trump. He did not have to go there and he knew it. Someone should point out to him that Dr. Paul has been elected many more times than him......

He didn't have to go there, but they also didn't need to interrupt him while he was talking. They asked for it.

[sailingaway]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_-0hMID67A

That looks like there was more of them than us, but then, it was Trump's speech. Hmm..... I have to watch the whole thing later, when I get home.

[TXcarlosTX]

I say this is no big deal. I would've gone nuts.

Ron Paulers look like hooligans!!!

FUCK YEAH!!!

Keep it up. Have fun.

[SilentBull]

I say this is no big deal. I would've gone nuts.

Ron Paulers look like hooligans!!!

FUCK YEAH!!!

Keep it up. Have fun.

The problem is that this isn't really about having fun. It's about winning! We can have fun in the process, but not by doing things that will hurt Ron's chances. We need those people's votes.

[reduen]

He didn't have to go there, but they also didn't need to interrupt him while he was talking. They asked for it.

Well, it was not like they were heckling him or anything so.... I have done some public speaking and that type of stuff is really just to be expected. Trump has made a good part of his living being a drama queen and I believe that this is an attempt on his part to take advantage of a situation... "Any publicity is good publicity."

[Brian4Liberty]

Maybe were psyched and impatient because Rand was supposed to go after NRA CEO, not Trump (Trump & NRA guy switched places).

Sometimes it's not fun to be the opening act... ;)

[Brian4Liberty]

First reports are out:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/trump-riles-cpac-crowd-will-an.html

[specsaregood]

I say this is no big deal. I would've gone nuts.
Ron Paulers look like hooligans!!!
FUCK YEAH!!!
Keep it up. Have fun.

This kinda shit might just backfire on them.

[SilentBull]

First reports are out:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/trump-riles-cpac-crowd-will-an.html

That's not bad. Some publicity for Paul in that article.

[Brian4Liberty]

Another story:



Donald Trump makes a surprise appearance at CPAC to say he hasn't ruled out seeking the Republican nomination. Trump won cheers from the conservative crowd until he said Rep. Ron Paul had no chance of getting elected. Then the catcalls started.
...
For much of his appearance on the first day of the Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump had the crowd eating out his hand until he hit a tripwire, telling them that Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian from Texas, had no chance of getting elected. The cheers then turned to catcalls.

"I like Ron Paul, but he has no chance of getting elected," Trump said. Paul won the presidential straw poll at CPAC last year.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-cpac-donald-trump-20110210,0,2565145.story

[Kludge]

First reports are out:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/trump-riles-cpac-crowd-will-an.html

Excellent.

Nice they haven't been reporting the whole story... Gotta be in our favor at least once in a decade :)

[Brian4Liberty]

Leave it to CBS. Here's the Headline "Donald Trump: Ron Paul Can't Win"


Businessman and television personality Donald Trump says that America needs a winner to run against President Obama in the next election - and libertarian icon Ron Paul isn't it.

"Ron Paul cannot get elected, I'm sorry," Trump said to a rowdy audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C. today.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20031408-503544.html

[Kludge]

Leave it to CBS. Here's the Headline "Donald Trump: Ron Paul Can't Win"

Wow... it goes on...

"The remark elicited a huge commotion from the crowd, which was packed with young fans of the Texas Republican, who made a splash in the 2008 Republican primary by gaining the fervent support of libertarians but ultimately won minimal support. Paul's political action committee put together an extensive campaign to bring his young supporters to this week's conference, which is considered a platform of sorts for potential presidential contenders."

(yes, that's the article's own emphasis)

[trey4sports]

Im there, it was fuckin nuts guys. Never yelled "get of the stage" louder. Ron will kill in the straw poll

[Brian4Liberty]

Here we go. Big time spin from Time. Plays up Trump, laughs at Ron, tries to make it out like all of the "young people" back Trump and don't like Ron...


On Day One Of CPAC, Donald Trump Steals The Show

Newt Gingrich talked policies, and the crowd seemed to like it. Rick Santorum announced that "America belongs to God," and he was politely applauded. But it was Donald Trump, a real estate investor who became a reality show star, who finally got the crowd's 2012 election juices going on the first day of the Conservative Political Action Committee conference. And it sure sounded like the Donald was running for president.
...
The conservative crowd, heavily populated by college students in ill-fitting suits, ate it up, standing and cheering at several points during the speech. One of Trump's biggest cheers came when Trump responded to some Libertarian hoots from the crowd, "By the way, Ron Paul cannot get elected. I'm sorry."

Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/02/10/on-day-one-of-cpac-donald-trump-steals-the-show/

[Kludge]

"One of Trump's biggest cheers came when Trump responded to some Libertarian hoots from the crowd, "By the way, Ron Paul cannot get elected. I'm sorry.""

Who was that "biggest cheer"? The reporter?

[Brian4Liberty]

Politico implies that everyone was there for Trump...


CPAC to Trump: You're hired!

By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 2/10/11 4:46 PM EST

If CPAC is a primary for self-confidence, Donald Trump won hands down.

The real-estate mogul with a genius for self-promotion gave the most-acclaimed — and most colorful — speech at the conservative gathering this afternoon, from the moment he took the stage to the song "Money, Money, Money."

With no visible sense of irony, he slammed libertarian Ron Paul as a losing hopeful who can't capture the brass ring and got booed by some for it, said our current president came 'out of nowhere," and quoted a business magazine's story about what a terrific entrepreneur he himself is.

Yet he was by far the best-received speaker and the audience lapped up his act, as he read some of a prepared speech and used his hands to punctuate his words. He also hit on social issues "briefly," as he said, saying he's pro-life and anti-gun control. He said he'd dismantle Obama's health care law.

The ballroom attendance bulked up massively in advance of his speech, with conference staffers pleading with people to stop blocking the stairwells and doors.

"You're hired!" a fan screamed from the crowd, and he pointed back at her and said, "You're hired! These are my people. This is beautiful."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49268.html

[TomtheTinker]

I watched C-pac and this is seriously dishonest..I mean didn't Rand Paul ahve a speech today and wasn't it VERY well received.

[Slutter McGee]

I watched C-pac and this is seriously dishonest..I mean didn't Rand Paul ahve a speech today and wasn't it VERY well received.

The immature actions of Ron Paul supporters never backfire. We all know this.

Slutter McGee

[Lord Xar]

"One of Trump's biggest cheers came when Trump responded to some Libertarian hoots from the crowd, "By the way, Ron Paul cannot get elected. I'm sorry.""

Who was that "biggest cheer"? The reporter?

reporter: Michael Scherer

uhmmmm.... doesn't he have a long list of "I hate ron paul" moments? And his last name too, is telling.

[Kludge]

reporter: Michael Scherer

uhmmmm.... doesn't he have a long list of "I hate ron paul" moments? And his last name too, is telling.
He's apparently part of the Journolist http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2567539/posts?page=1

[Brian4Liberty]

I watched C-pac and this is seriously dishonest...

Standard Operating Procedure in the mainstream media. For the most part, they create reality, they don't report it.

[RonPaulRules]

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/10/ron-paul-supporters-walk-out-rumsfeld-tribute

[Lord Xar]

He's apparently part of the Journolist http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2567539/posts?page=1

Not familiar with this list. explain.

[RonPaulRules]

This is a pretty good article. I feel like this is going to hurt Trump more than anything.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/10/rand-paul-on-donald-trump-his-chances-are-less-than-my-fathers/

[Kludge]

Not familiar with this list. explain.

Bunch of big-time leftist reporters & Obama admin. members who congregate on a forum and discuss how they want to shape the news.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/29/political-operatives-on-journolist-worked-to-shape-news-coverage/

[sratiug]

I watched the video. Trump's introduction gave their "surprise" guest credit for filling up the auditorium and overflow rooms. I'm guessing that was the start of the whole thing. It was all cool imo. Fuck Trump.

[yatez112]

Rand standing up for Ron. :)

Still, when pressed he smiled and said of Trump: "I think his chances are less than my father's."



http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/10/rand-paul-on-donald-trump-his-chances-are-less-than-my-fathers/

Woops already posted. :o

[georgiaboy]

yeah, molehill.

straw poll results is the prize headline out of CPAC. rest of this is inside pool.

[georgiaboy]

This is a pretty good article. I feel like this is going to hurt Trump more than anything.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/10/rand-paul-on-donald-trump-his-chances-are-less-than-my-fathers/


In an interview with CNN [Rand] said Donald Trump will regret taking a dig at Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, during his address to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) gathering.

I just wonder what those pesky RP supporters will be cooking up for Mr. Trump over the near term?

[TomtheTinker]

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This is a pretty good article. I feel like this is going to hurt Trump more than anything.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...an-my-fathers/


So I think everybody should get their panties out of a bunch and the stick out their ***** because even Rand was thinking about sticking them a jab.

[Mrs.Joe]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/trump-riles-cpac-crowd-will-an.html

If I were never aware of Ron Paul THIS would make me want to find out what he was about to get Trump's panties all in a bunch. This is good.

[William R]

So howcome the Ron Paul supporters were acting like fucking maniacs in the audience while Trump was speaking?? We were warned before hand specifically not to do this. I walked in on the middle of the speech, did Trump provoke this attack by verbally attacking Ron Paul?

Because they're punk kids. All this does is turn off people that might be interested in Ron Paul's message. You don't win people over by acting like jerks.

[Chieppa1]

I think booing Dick Cheney is a popular message in America. And its a healthy message.

[Kregisen]

Because they're punk kids. All this does is turn off people that might be interested in Ron Paul's message. You don't win people over by acting like jerks.

It's depressing.

[TomtheTinker]

Because they're punk kids. All this does is turn off people that might be interested in Ron Paul's message.

1st off Rand said in a CNN interview that he was thinking about taking a shot at Trump for the statement he made..so its more than obvious Passionate supporters are going to make a little bit of noise. Especially when they are getting lectured to by DONALD TRUMP about budgets and electability.

2nd this may do more good than harm...trump is a big name ...Ron Paul not so much out of the political junkie world. A Ron Paul vs Donald Trump headline might not be so bad after all.

[Wren]

I just wonder what those pesky RP supporters will be cooking up for Mr. Trump over the near term?

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/snowball-gun.jpg

Probably stocking up on these :p

[TheeJoeGlass]

I love the people on here telling peopleto shit down and shut up. The folks that paid good money to go to Cpac should NOT do that. I certainly would not be quite while Rumsfeld was speaking. And this, in no way, hurts Ron's chances in 12. Let them be wild and crazy, so far the only interesting thing to come out of Cpac on day 1, was Ron Paul supporters. Good job guys!

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/snowball-gun.jpg

Probably stocking up on these :p

You beat me to it, though you "phrased" it better than I would have!

Thumbs up!

-t

[UtahApocalypse]

Donald Trump 12' = Giuliani 08'

[FSP-Rebel]

I love the people on here telling peopleto shit down and shut up. The folks that paid good money to go to Cpac should NOT do that. I certainly would not be quite while Rumsfeld was speaking. And this, in no way, hurts Ron's chances in 12. Let them be wild and crazy, so far the only interesting thing to come out of Cpac on day 1, was Ron Paul supporters. Good job guys!
Yeah, can't ruin someone's fun but I do understand Ron and his respectful ideals. I know Ron gets energized when he's around many of the crowds at college campuses but he knows better than anyone how electrifying it can be to be amongst many RP supporters and the wild tendencies that tend to surface. Young folk don't have that bright looking of a future and they're looking to take it out (non-violently) on those that want to screw them over. That said, four of my friends that attended were all 30s and above and they just called and said they were part of the heckling and would do it again if given the chance. I told them about Ron's call for respect and they just said they couldn't allow the Cheneys/Rummies/Trumps to get away unscathed. Emotions run high at events like this and sometimes words come first and thoughts come later. Just sayin. What's gonna happen is what's gonna happen and a combo of respect and boldness will further the cause imo.

[MelissaWV]

I love the people on here telling peopleto shit down and shut up. The folks that paid good money to go to Cpac should NOT do that. I certainly would not be quite while Rumsfeld was speaking. And this, in no way, hurts Ron's chances in 12. Let them be wild and crazy, so far the only interesting thing to come out of Cpac on day 1, was Ron Paul supporters. Good job guys!

Did it cross your mind that some of us talking paid good money for others to go to CPAC? Being "quiet" was Ron Paul's request. Remember Ron Paul? He's the guy that people were supposedly braving the TSA, blizzards, and DC traffic to go vote for. I didn't realize the added bonus was that you got to boo all the GOP folks you hated. I like how you throw in that this won't hurt anything in 2012.

You can be wild and crazy in support of people without booing your "enemies."

It's done, though; I'm sure lots of folks are super proud of themselves.

[Flash]

So I think everybody should get their panties out of a bunch and the stick out their ***** because even Rand was thinking about sticking them a jab.

Yeah but he ultimately decided against it. What if Trump really DOES get elected President or another position of power and Rand Paul starts influencing him on certain issues. Isn't that worth more than taking a shot at him during stupid Cpac? Ron Paul already basically convinced him that the Fed was bad. May be he could've convinced him on a few other issues. But now Trump is angered at Paul's supporters and our movement.


I don't like Trump either. But you know the guy has never been elected to office, he didn't mention Ron in anyway as the heckling initially began. Yeah it was very unprofessional for him to ADDRESS the heckling and get the crowd riled up, but still we should've known better. It's too risky, now the media could use this moment to discredit Ron Paul.

[BlackTerrel]

I have a nagging feeling that I've expressed before that a number of Ron Paul supporters want to be fringe so they can complain how bad everything is and feel superior to everyone else who is a "dumb sheeple".

There's a difference between what you want to do and what is a good strategic move. Everything I have seen posted is the former.

[SilentBull]

I have a nagging feeling that I've expressed before that a number of Ron Paul supporters want to be fringe so they can complain how bad everything is and feel superior to everyone else who is a "dumb sheeple".

That's the point I've been trying to make. Some are actually not comfortable winning. They don't want our ideas to be popular, because they won't have anything to complain about.

[AlexMerced]

That's the point I've been trying to make. Some are actually not comfortable winning. They don't want our ideas to be popular, because they won't have anything to complain about.

I'm sure there is some of that, and some people who are just naturally boisterous, like that friend you have cause he's a good guy but you just can't go in public cause they always make a scene... I have a feeling a lot of those guys are in out camps, and since we're all for non-agreesion, non of us have intevened and kicked them out.

Goes to show, we are truly accepting, except all the people complaining about the people complaining about how others arn't complaining

[archangel689]

So howcome the Ron Paul supporters were acting like fucking maniacs in the audience while Trump was speaking?? We were warned before hand specifically not to do this. I walked in on the middle of the speech, did Trump provoke this attack by verbally attacking Ron Paul?

Because it's always been this way. Dick Cheney was called a war criminal.... and paul supporters were vocal....

by "it's always been this way" I mean....ITS ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Drl8fpWTKo&feature=player_embedded

[Brian4Liberty]

Trump is horrifying and a bully.

You hit that on the head. Trump is a bully. Hannity is a bully. So is Giuliani. Romney is a polite bully.

Unfortunately, it is obvious what these guys really mean when they denigrate Ron Paul.

"I like some of his ideas, but..."

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR1eEmH6wC51QbnhbT_lNBCmkasgaPGo NivbzbMaus4ILsxZ8C5

[Aratus]

if sarah palin has a solid 1/3rd and rep. ron paul has a solid 1/3rd
i see donald trump as a nicely gravitas candidate who challenges
ex-gov mitt romney's "managerial skills" come SOUTH CAROLINA!

[DutchLiberty]

If Trump likes Ron Paul like he said they should team to make a killer team.
Trump/Paul 2012 would be unbeatable!